[support] Is this achievable using Drupal alone
Joe Murray
joe.murray at jmaconsulting.biz
Mon Mar 17 20:36:15 UTC 2008
There was some discussion about how to limit geographically based tags to
cities, etc. You might want to check out the geonames.org service, and
consider exporting a hierarchical list of geographic names and making
vocabularies out of them (eg states, cities). This would be a good way to
ensure correct spellings, etc, and reduce the problems associated with free
tagging. The downside is that it may need some performance tuning.
Joe
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> 1. Re: Is this achievable using drupal alone? (Michael Prasuhn)
> 2. Re: Is this achievable using drupal alone? (Neil: esl-lounge.com)
> 3. Re: Is this achievable using drupal alone? (Michael Prasuhn)
> 4. Re: Is this achievable using drupal alone? (Neil: esl-lounge.com)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:30:56 -0700
> From: Michael Prasuhn <mike at mikeyp.net>
> Subject: Re: [support] Is this achievable using drupal alone?
> To: support at drupal.org
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> What I typically do when presented with this type of project, with
> multiple views per page, is to embed the views via the theme layer,
> and pass the selected argument, such as the node title into the view
> as an argument. Here's a semi-detailed break down:
>
> Create a view that filters for images based on node type, published
> and then an argument as city name.
> (do the same for blogs, writings, and any other separate views you
> want on the page)
>
> In your theme, in template.php, in phptemplate_variable, under the
> page, or node switch, add something along these lines:
>
> if ($vars['node']->type == 'citypage') {
> $view = views_get_view('images_by_city');
> $vars['embeded_images_view'] = views_build_view('embed',
> $view,
> array($vars['node']->title), false, false);
> }
>
> Repeat as necessary for each view that you want on the page.
>
> Then, in your page.tpl.php or node.tpl.php (depending on which switch
> you but the above code under) you can add the following to your
> tempalte:
>
> <?php if ($embeded_images_view): ?>
> <div id="embeded-images-view">
> <?php print $embeded_images_view; ?>
> </div> <!-- embeded-images-view -->
> <?php endif; ?>
>
> And repeat as necessary for each view that you want to embed.
>
> A little code in a helper module that implements hook_nodeapi could
> handle creating a term for each new node of this type that is made.
> This can be a very elegant solution, although it can produce some odd
> results with node edit pages if you embed the view in the page
> template.
>
> Hope this helps out.
>
> -Mike
>
>
>
> On Mar 15, 2008, at 12:45 PM, Neil: esl-lounge.com wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the responses so far...this has certainly kept my brain
> > busy for the last couple of days and there are still a lot of
> > uncertainties in my mind. I'm not sure I understand how I would use
> > Views to present each "page" for each city with the tagged entries
> > underneath. As I understand Views, I could present a list (table,
> > full nodes or teasers) with, for example, all content tagged with
> > "Dallas, TX", but how would I alter what comes at the top of each
> > page (using, presumably the page/header text box)? I would ideally
> > like to present some type of Info box at the top of each city's page
> > (founded, population, long/lat, country/state, etc). I wouldn't be
> > able to do this with views, would I? This is also why I was toying
> > with the idea of just having a group for each city.
> >
> > Using CCK, I could have member enter all the Info Box fields when
> > they create each new one. Then, using my exisiting node-
> > group.tpl.php, the group page could be laid out with the info box at
> > the top of the page, the mission statement, etc, to one side and all
> > the relevant content (forum posts, blog entries, images, pagers,
> > etc) showing below. So I might have something like this:
> >
> > http://i29.tinypic.com/9bazyf.png
> >
> > Does this sound workable? What problems are there in having
> > potentially 10,000 groups? Or 100,000? How would I get them all to
> > link together (as the [category:Texas] function would allow me to do
> > in MediaWiki, for example.)? Is there any way I could use a special
> > CCK field to introduce the idea of hierarchy (United States >> Texas
> > >> Dallas >> Plano) into the group content type? Or would I need to
> > get busy with a Location taxonomy and tag each new group as it's
> > created??
> >
> > Again, I really appreciate any input on this from anyone, if only to
> > point me in the right direction.
> >
> > Neil
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 23:40:42 +0100
> From: "Neil: esl-lounge.com" <neil at esl-lounge.com>
> Subject: Re: [support] Is this achievable using drupal alone?
> To: <support at drupal.org>
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>
> Sander,
>
> Thanks. I have a couple of questions relating to your idea:
>
> 1. would your solution allow for each city's InfoBox as shown in my
> page
> mockup image? How would this info be entered? As this info would be
> unique
> to each city, I thought the only way of doing it would be to have the
> city
> page itself as a content type (or "group", which is a content type
> anyway, I
> suppose) and use CCK fields to get that info into each city's page. How
> would Views allow me to do it?
>
> 2. How would I have a tight policy of tags across the different content
> types to ensure all dallas content did indeed end up in the right View?
> Would I have to set up a "Location" vocabulary (with 100,000 potential
> terms??) and not allow free tagging or multiple tagging. I'm just
> trying to
> get my head around a few of the more mundane queries running through my
> head.
>
> Finally, would you not suggest doing this via OG as I mentioned in an
> earlier mail?
>
> Neil
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "sander-martijn" <lists at severeddreams.com>
> To: <support at drupal.org>
> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 9:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [support] Is this achievable using drupal alone?
>
>
> Check out views arguments. With this you could have a cities view that
> lists all the cities out, and cities/dallas to show dallas tx with it's
> own header and listings etc, or a lot of things like that. Also take a
> look at some of the other views modules, like the views bonus pack.
>
> .sander
>
> Neil: esl-lounge.com wrote:
> > Thanks for the responses so far...this has certainly kept my brain
> busy
> > for the last couple of days and there are still a lot of
> uncertainties
> > in my mind. I'm not sure I understand how I would use Views to
> present
> > each "page" for each city with the tagged entries underneath. As I
> > understand Views, I could present a list (table, full nodes or
> teasers)
> > with, for example, all content tagged with "Dallas, TX", but how
> would I
> > alter what comes at the top of each page (using, presumably the
> > page/header text box)? I would ideally like to present some type of
> Info
> > box at the top of each city's page (founded, population, long/lat,
> > country/state, etc). I wouldn't be able to do this with views, would
> I?
> > This is also why I was toying with the idea of just having a group
> for
> > each city.
> >
> > Using CCK, I could have member enter all the Info Box fields when
> they
> > create each new one. Then, using my exisiting node-group.tpl.php, the
> > group page could be laid out with the info box at the top of the
> page,
> > the mission statement, etc, to one side and all the relevant content
> > (forum posts, blog entries, images, pagers, etc) showing below. So I
> > might have something like this:
> >
> > http://i29.tinypic.com/9bazyf.png
> >
> > Does this sound workable? What problems are there in having
> potentially
> > 10,000 groups? Or 100,000? How would I get them all to link together
> (as
> > the [category:Texas] function would allow me to do in MediaWiki, for
> > example.)? Is there any way I could use a special CCK field to
> introduce
> > the idea of hierarchy (United States >> Texas >> Dallas >> Plano)
> into
> > the group content type? Or would I need to get busy with a Location
> > taxonomy and tag each new group as it's created??
> >
> > Again, I really appreciate any input on this from anyone, if only to
> > point me in the right direction.
> >
> > Neil
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* Metzler, David <mailto:metzlerd at evergreen.edu>
> > *To:* support at drupal.org <mailto:support at drupal.org>
> > *Sent:* Thursday, March 13, 2008 5:42 PM
> > *Subject:* Re: [support] Is this achievable using drupal alone?
> >
> > If it were mine, I?d make the cities be required taxonomy terms
> for
> > the content type. Then people create individual entries and tag
> > them as Dallas, Texas or Clairborne or whatever. Use views with
> a
> > term as an argument to pull lists of content for a city. People
> can
> > comment or make their own entries for the city.
> >
> >
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
> -------
> >
> > *From:* support-bounces at drupal.org
> > [mailto:support-bounces at drupal.org] *On Behalf Of *Neil:
> > esl-lounge.com
> > *Sent:* Thursday, March 13, 2008 9:27 AM
> > *To:* support at drupal.org
> > *Subject:* [support] Is this achievable using drupal alone?
> >
> >
> >
> > I have quite a specific content-type requirement for my site and
> > have been pulling my hair out thinking about how I could achieve
> it
> > with drupal - so I turn to this support list, if not for a
> solution,
> > then for at least a pointer or two to push me nearer an answer.
> >
> >
> >
> > I have a site where I want members to be able to enter
> information
> > about hundreds or even thousands of cities. It's not relevant
> > exactly what type of information they are writing.
> >
> >
> >
> > For example, a member creates a new X content type (this is the
> big
> > question) and puts the title Dallas, Texas and writes a paragraph
> or
> > two about it. Other members can rate that entry or attach
> comments
> > to it...or, very importantly, add their own entry, which would
> have
> > equal weight to the first entry. Ultimately, tags could be
> attached
> > to each entry to allow some type of sorting.
> >
> >
> >
> > Look here at a screenshot mock-up I've made to give some idea of
> > what I'm talking about.
> >
> >
> >
> > http://i31.tinypic.com/2lo0qkw.png
> >
> >
> >
> > The original idea called for a wiki where each city would be a
> wiki
> > page, but we're now veering more towards having seperate entries
> > (not editable by other users) by each member, to which comments
> can
> > be added. So these are almost nodes within nodes. We considered
> some
> > type of views/og solution but is it feasible to have 10,000 views
> or
> > groups? Would views allow me to gather together, dynamically, all
> > "entries" on "Dallas, Texas" and seamlessly switch (using an
> > auto-complete text box perhaps) to Houston, Texas or to any of
> > 10,000 other towns? Would $arg help me there??
> >
> >
> >
> > Is there anything that already exists on drupal that can help me
> > towards a solution? I've already thought about book pages, forum
> > pages, groups for each city and a few other possibilities
> besides,
> > but nothing seems to fit. There could well be some useful modules
> > out there I am unaware of.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any guidance you can offer.
> >
> >
> >
> > Neil
> >
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------
> -------
> >
> > --
> > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]
> >
> --
> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:01:06 -0700
> From: Michael Prasuhn <mike at mikeyp.net>
> Subject: Re: [support] Is this achievable using drupal alone?
> To: support at drupal.org
> Message-ID: <A3120518-74A4-4CFB-99F1-26BFDD1AE9D0 at mikeyp.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed;
> delsp=yes
>
> With the method I outlined, each city, is a node, of whatever content
> type you set up for cities. You can configure your fields however you
> want. One benefit of doing it this way, is that then city nodes can be
> indexed by search, (even though the views content inside of them will
> not be indexed) so that when someone searches for 'Dallas' the node
> for Dallas is in the search results instead of only other posts tagged
> with Dallas.
>
> As far as vocab control.... I am not sure what the best method is
> here, if you want users to be able to create them, and limit them at
> the same time. You could set it up with a fixed vocabulary, or maybe
> even as a multiple value node reference field for tagging other posts.
> If you go that route, just point the node reference to only return
> nodes of the content type for cities that you create. Other than that
> I would say, maybe disallow free tagging, and allow multiple selects,
> and programatically create the terms when each new city page is
> created.
>
> Not sure if that fits with your workflow or not. I suppose you could
> even go the opposite way and create nodes programmatically based on
> the creation of new terms in your chosen vocab.
>
> I don't know that Organic Groups is or isn't the right solution for
> you, generally I tend to lean towards organic groups for things like
> access control for groups of people or anything that manages subsets
> of membership. If neither of those is an issue for you, I'd still say
> you could use it, but it isn't the first tool I'd reach for if doing
> the type of project you're working on.
>
> -Mike
>
>
> On Mar 15, 2008, at 3:40 PM, Neil: esl-lounge.com wrote:
>
> > Sander,
> >
> > Thanks. I have a couple of questions relating to your idea:
> >
> > 1. would your solution allow for each city's InfoBox as shown in my
> > page
> > mockup image? How would this info be entered? As this info would be
> > unique
> > to each city, I thought the only way of doing it would be to have
> > the city
> > page itself as a content type (or "group", which is a content type
> > anyway, I
> > suppose) and use CCK fields to get that info into each city's page.
> > How
> > would Views allow me to do it?
> >
> > 2. How would I have a tight policy of tags across the different
> > content
> > types to ensure all dallas content did indeed end up in the right
> > View?
> > Would I have to set up a "Location" vocabulary (with 100,000
> potential
> > terms??) and not allow free tagging or multiple tagging. I'm just
> > trying to
> > get my head around a few of the more mundane queries running through
> > my
> > head.
> >
> > Finally, would you not suggest doing this via OG as I mentioned in an
> > earlier mail?
> >
> > Neil
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "sander-martijn" <lists at severeddreams.com>
> > To: <support at drupal.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 9:14 PM
> > Subject: Re: [support] Is this achievable using drupal alone?
> >
> >
> > Check out views arguments. With this you could have a cities view
> > that
> > lists all the cities out, and cities/dallas to show dallas tx with
> > it's
> > own header and listings etc, or a lot of things like that. Also
> > take a
> > look at some of the other views modules, like the views bonus pack.
> >
> > .sander
> >
> > Neil: esl-lounge.com wrote:
> >> Thanks for the responses so far...this has certainly kept my brain
> >> busy
> >> for the last couple of days and there are still a lot of
> >> uncertainties
> >> in my mind. I'm not sure I understand how I would use Views to
> >> present
> >> each "page" for each city with the tagged entries underneath. As I
> >> understand Views, I could present a list (table, full nodes or
> >> teasers)
> >> with, for example, all content tagged with "Dallas, TX", but how
> >> would I
> >> alter what comes at the top of each page (using, presumably the
> >> page/header text box)? I would ideally like to present some type of
> >> Info
> >> box at the top of each city's page (founded, population, long/lat,
> >> country/state, etc). I wouldn't be able to do this with views,
> >> would I?
> >> This is also why I was toying with the idea of just having a group
> >> for
> >> each city.
> >>
> >> Using CCK, I could have member enter all the Info Box fields when
> >> they
> >> create each new one. Then, using my exisiting node-group.tpl.php,
> the
> >> group page could be laid out with the info box at the top of the
> >> page,
> >> the mission statement, etc, to one side and all the relevant content
> >> (forum posts, blog entries, images, pagers, etc) showing below. So I
> >> might have something like this:
> >>
> >> http://i29.tinypic.com/9bazyf.png
> >>
> >> Does this sound workable? What problems are there in having
> >> potentially
> >> 10,000 groups? Or 100,000? How would I get them all to link
> >> together (as
> >> the [category:Texas] function would allow me to do in MediaWiki, for
> >> example.)? Is there any way I could use a special CCK field to
> >> introduce
> >> the idea of hierarchy (United States >> Texas >> Dallas >> Plano)
> >> into
> >> the group content type? Or would I need to get busy with a Location
> >> taxonomy and tag each new group as it's created??
> >>
> >> Again, I really appreciate any input on this from anyone, if only to
> >> point me in the right direction.
> >>
> >> Neil
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> *From:* Metzler, David <mailto:metzlerd at evergreen.edu>
> >> *To:* support at drupal.org <mailto:support at drupal.org>
> >> *Sent:* Thursday, March 13, 2008 5:42 PM
> >> *Subject:* Re: [support] Is this achievable using drupal alone?
> >>
> >> If it were mine, I?d make the cities be required taxonomy terms
> >> for
> >> the content type. Then people create individual entries and tag
> >> them as Dallas, Texas or Clairborne or whatever. Use views with
> a
> >> term as an argument to pull lists of content for a city. People
> >> can
> >> comment or make their own entries for the city.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
> >>
> >> *From:* support-bounces at drupal.org
> >> [mailto:support-bounces at drupal.org] *On Behalf Of *Neil:
> >> esl-lounge.com
> >> *Sent:* Thursday, March 13, 2008 9:27 AM
> >> *To:* support at drupal.org
> >> *Subject:* [support] Is this achievable using drupal alone?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I have quite a specific content-type requirement for my site and
> >> have been pulling my hair out thinking about how I could achieve
> >> it
> >> with drupal - so I turn to this support list, if not for a
> >> solution,
> >> then for at least a pointer or two to push me nearer an answer.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I have a site where I want members to be able to enter
> information
> >> about hundreds or even thousands of cities. It's not relevant
> >> exactly what type of information they are writing.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> For example, a member creates a new X content type (this is the
> >> big
> >> question) and puts the title Dallas, Texas and writes a
> >> paragraph or
> >> two about it. Other members can rate that entry or attach
> comments
> >> to it...or, very importantly, add their own entry, which would
> >> have
> >> equal weight to the first entry. Ultimately, tags could be
> >> attached
> >> to each entry to allow some type of sorting.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Look here at a screenshot mock-up I've made to give some idea of
> >> what I'm talking about.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> http://i31.tinypic.com/2lo0qkw.png
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The original idea called for a wiki where each city would be a
> >> wiki
> >> page, but we're now veering more towards having seperate entries
> >> (not editable by other users) by each member, to which comments
> >> can
> >> be added. So these are almost nodes within nodes. We considered
> >> some
> >> type of views/og solution but is it feasible to have 10,000
> >> views or
> >> groups? Would views allow me to gather together, dynamically, all
> >> "entries" on "Dallas, Texas" and seamlessly switch (using an
> >> auto-complete text box perhaps) to Houston, Texas or to any of
> >> 10,000 other towns? Would $arg help me there??
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Is there anything that already exists on drupal that can help me
> >> towards a solution? I've already thought about book pages, forum
> >> pages, groups for each city and a few other possibilities
> besides,
> >> but nothing seems to fit. There could well be some useful modules
> >> out there I am unaware of.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance for any guidance you can offer.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Neil
> >>
> >>
> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
> >>
> >> --
> >> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]
> >>
> > --
> > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]
> >
> > --
> > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]
>
> __________________
> Michael Prasuhn
> mike at mikeyp.net
> http://mikeyp.net
> 949.200.7595
> 714.356.0168 cell
> 949.200.7670 fax
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:24:48 +0100
> From: "Neil: esl-lounge.com" <neil at esl-lounge.com>
> Subject: Re: [support] Is this achievable using drupal alone?
> To: <support at drupal.org>
> Message-ID: <001f01c8873f$33cdbdb0$65c80a3e at Neil>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252";
> reply-type=original
>
> I just wanted to say, I hadn't ignored your response Michael - just
> that
> it's one level above my current understanding of Drupal, so it was my
> intention to look through your original post again in the next day or
> so and
> possibly set up an example few pages to see it in operation.
>
> Just to clarify, the first thing I'd have to do is set up a "City Name"
> vocabulary and tag a few nodes (video, image, blog entry) with "Dallas"
> and
> then begin to set up the views as you explained?
>
> Neil
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Prasuhn" <mike at mikeyp.net>
> To: <support at drupal.org>
> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 3:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [support] Is this achievable using drupal alone?
>
>
> With the method I outlined, each city, is a node, of whatever content
> type you set up for cities. You can configure your fields however you
> want. One benefit of doing it this way, is that then city nodes can be
> indexed by search, (even though the views content inside of them will
> not be indexed) so that when someone searches for 'Dallas' the node
> for Dallas is in the search results instead of only other posts tagged
> with Dallas.
>
> As far as vocab control.... I am not sure what the best method is
> here, if you want users to be able to create them, and limit them at
> the same time. You could set it up with a fixed vocabulary, or maybe
> even as a multiple value node reference field for tagging other posts.
> If you go that route, just point the node reference to only return
> nodes of the content type for cities that you create. Other than that
> I would say, maybe disallow free tagging, and allow multiple selects,
> and programatically create the terms when each new city page is
> created.
>
> Not sure if that fits with your workflow or not. I suppose you could
> even go the opposite way and create nodes programmatically based on
> the creation of new terms in your chosen vocab.
>
> I don't know that Organic Groups is or isn't the right solution for
> you, generally I tend to lean towards organic groups for things like
> access control for groups of people or anything that manages subsets
> of membership. If neither of those is an issue for you, I'd still say
> you could use it, but it isn't the first tool I'd reach for if doing
> the type of project you're working on.
>
> -Mike
>
>
> On Mar 15, 2008, at 3:40 PM, Neil: esl-lounge.com wrote:
>
> > Sander,
> >
> > Thanks. I have a couple of questions relating to your idea:
> >
> > 1. would your solution allow for each city's InfoBox as shown in my
> > page
> > mockup image? How would this info be entered? As this info would be
> > unique
> > to each city, I thought the only way of doing it would be to have
> > the city
> > page itself as a content type (or "group", which is a content type
> > anyway, I
> > suppose) and use CCK fields to get that info into each city's page.
> > How
> > would Views allow me to do it?
> >
> > 2. How would I have a tight policy of tags across the different
> > content
> > types to ensure all dallas content did indeed end up in the right
> > View?
> > Would I have to set up a "Location" vocabulary (with 100,000
> potential
> > terms??) and not allow free tagging or multiple tagging. I'm just
> > trying to
> > get my head around a few of the more mundane queries running through
> > my
> > head.
> >
> > Finally, would you not suggest doing this via OG as I mentioned in an
> > earlier mail?
> >
> > Neil
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "sander-martijn" <lists at severeddreams.com>
> > To: <support at drupal.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 9:14 PM
> > Subject: Re: [support] Is this achievable using drupal alone?
> >
> >
> > Check out views arguments. With this you could have a cities view
> > that
> > lists all the cities out, and cities/dallas to show dallas tx with
> > it's
> > own header and listings etc, or a lot of things like that. Also
> > take a
> > look at some of the other views modules, like the views bonus pack.
> >
> > .sander
> >
> > Neil: esl-lounge.com wrote:
> >> Thanks for the responses so far...this has certainly kept my brain
> >> busy
> >> for the last couple of days and there are still a lot of
> >> uncertainties
> >> in my mind. I'm not sure I understand how I would use Views to
> >> present
> >> each "page" for each city with the tagged entries underneath. As I
> >> understand Views, I could present a list (table, full nodes or
> >> teasers)
> >> with, for example, all content tagged with "Dallas, TX", but how
> >> would I
> >> alter what comes at the top of each page (using, presumably the
> >> page/header text box)? I would ideally like to present some type of
> >> Info
> >> box at the top of each city's page (founded, population, long/lat,
> >> country/state, etc). I wouldn't be able to do this with views,
> >> would I?
> >> This is also why I was toying with the idea of just having a group
> >> for
> >> each city.
> >>
> >> Using CCK, I could have member enter all the Info Box fields when
> >> they
> >> create each new one. Then, using my exisiting node-group.tpl.php,
> the
> >> group page could be laid out with the info box at the top of the
> >> page,
> >> the mission statement, etc, to one side and all the relevant content
> >> (forum posts, blog entries, images, pagers, etc) showing below. So I
> >> might have something like this:
> >>
> >> http://i29.tinypic.com/9bazyf.png
> >>
> >> Does this sound workable? What problems are there in having
> >> potentially
> >> 10,000 groups? Or 100,000? How would I get them all to link
> >> together (as
> >> the [category:Texas] function would allow me to do in MediaWiki, for
> >> example.)? Is there any way I could use a special CCK field to
> >> introduce
> >> the idea of hierarchy (United States >> Texas >> Dallas >> Plano)
> >> into
> >> the group content type? Or would I need to get busy with a Location
> >> taxonomy and tag each new group as it's created??
> >>
> >> Again, I really appreciate any input on this from anyone, if only to
> >> point me in the right direction.
> >>
> >> Neil
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> *From:* Metzler, David <mailto:metzlerd at evergreen.edu>
> >> *To:* support at drupal.org <mailto:support at drupal.org>
> >> *Sent:* Thursday, March 13, 2008 5:42 PM
> >> *Subject:* Re: [support] Is this achievable using drupal alone?
> >>
> >> If it were mine, I?d make the cities be required taxonomy terms
> >> for
> >> the content type. Then people create individual entries and tag
> >> them as Dallas, Texas or Clairborne or whatever. Use views with
> a
> >> term as an argument to pull lists of content for a city. People
> >> can
> >> comment or make their own entries for the city.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
> >>
> >> *From:* support-bounces at drupal.org
> >> [mailto:support-bounces at drupal.org] *On Behalf Of *Neil:
> >> esl-lounge.com
> >> *Sent:* Thursday, March 13, 2008 9:27 AM
> >> *To:* support at drupal.org
> >> *Subject:* [support] Is this achievable using drupal alone?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I have quite a specific content-type requirement for my site and
> >> have been pulling my hair out thinking about how I could achieve
> >> it
> >> with drupal - so I turn to this support list, if not for a
> >> solution,
> >> then for at least a pointer or two to push me nearer an answer.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I have a site where I want members to be able to enter
> information
> >> about hundreds or even thousands of cities. It's not relevant
> >> exactly what type of information they are writing.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> For example, a member creates a new X content type (this is the
> >> big
> >> question) and puts the title Dallas, Texas and writes a
> >> paragraph or
> >> two about it. Other members can rate that entry or attach
> comments
> >> to it...or, very importantly, add their own entry, which would
> >> have
> >> equal weight to the first entry. Ultimately, tags could be
> >> attached
> >> to each entry to allow some type of sorting.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Look here at a screenshot mock-up I've made to give some idea of
> >> what I'm talking about.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> http://i31.tinypic.com/2lo0qkw.png
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The original idea called for a wiki where each city would be a
> >> wiki
> >> page, but we're now veering more towards having seperate entries
> >> (not editable by other users) by each member, to which comments
> >> can
> >> be added. So these are almost nodes within nodes. We considered
> >> some
> >> type of views/og solution but is it feasible to have 10,000
> >> views or
> >> groups? Would views allow me to gather together, dynamically, all
> >> "entries" on "Dallas, Texas" and seamlessly switch (using an
> >> auto-complete text box perhaps) to Houston, Texas or to any of
> >> 10,000 other towns? Would $arg help me there??
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Is there anything that already exists on drupal that can help me
> >> towards a solution? I've already thought about book pages, forum
> >> pages, groups for each city and a few other possibilities
> besides,
> >> but nothing seems to fit. There could well be some useful modules
> >> out there I am unaware of.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance for any guidance you can offer.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Neil
> >>
> >>
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