From fredthejonester at gmail.com Sun May 3 18:31:48 2009 From: fredthejonester at gmail.com (Fred Jones) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 21:31:48 +0300 Subject: [support] How to Fix a Messed Up Site Message-ID: <177c0a10905031131w60b41f45r822885f63953356b@mail.gmail.com> I am given now a D5 site with eCommerce and Ubercart both installed but deactivated. The original developer still has a dev version somewhere where Ubercart is activated and appears to be working. The owners now want me to provide them with ecommerce capability. I have read that eCommerce and Ubercart are not compatible. The site owners furthermore want to upgrade to D6 and also the latest version of CiviCRM (which anyway requires D6). But when I explained that it may be necessary to rebuild the site in D6 and then export/import the data (nodes and users) and that will take a day or two of work, they have asked if there is any other way to provide ecommerce functionality more simply. Aside from having paid once for this site to an incompetent developer, they happen to be on a very limited budget (they are an NPO). So, any other suggestions? I could just turn on Ubercart and hope it works I suppose. Heh heh. I'm not too thrilled about that however. Thanks. From skessler at denverdataman.com Sun May 3 18:49:17 2009 From: skessler at denverdataman.com (Steve Kessler) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 12:49:17 -0600 Subject: [support] How to Fix a Messed Up Site In-Reply-To: <177c0a10905031131w60b41f45r822885f63953356b@mail.gmail.com> References: <177c0a10905031131w60b41f45r822885f63953356b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <03cf01c9cc20$13823550$3a869ff0$@com> What are they looking to sell. If all they need are memberships or event payments that can all be done with Civi. >From my readining about eCommerce and Ubercart some of them use the same table names. I don't see why you could not delete both modules and then install Ubercart and see what happens. That way the only data recreation is for the product specifications. Is there any order history to be worried about. In terms of the overall upgrade to 6 - is this a stock theme and are there upgrade paths to 6 for the modules in use. Sites that are done wrong in 5 can be a problem to move to 6. I have ran into that trying to move my first attempt at Drupal from 5 to 6. Fred, I know you know this but I will say backup everything before trying this. Thanks, Steve -----Original Message----- From: Fred Jones [mailto:fredthejonester at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 12:32 PM To: support at drupal.org Subject: [support] How to Fix a Messed Up Site I am given now a D5 site with eCommerce and Ubercart both installed but deactivated. The original developer still has a dev version somewhere where Ubercart is activated and appears to be working. The owners now want me to provide them with ecommerce capability. I have read that eCommerce and Ubercart are not compatible. The site owners furthermore want to upgrade to D6 and also the latest version of CiviCRM (which anyway requires D6). But when I explained that it may be necessary to rebuild the site in D6 and then export/import the data (nodes and users) and that will take a day or two of work, they have asked if there is any other way to provide ecommerce functionality more simply. Aside from having paid once for this site to an incompetent developer, they happen to be on a very limited budget (they are an NPO). So, any other suggestions? I could just turn on Ubercart and hope it works I suppose. Heh heh. I'm not too thrilled about that however. Thanks. -- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] From fredthejonester at gmail.com Sun May 3 19:33:03 2009 From: fredthejonester at gmail.com (Fred Jones) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 22:33:03 +0300 Subject: [support] How to Fix a Messed Up Site In-Reply-To: <03cf01c9cc20$13823550$3a869ff0$@com> References: <177c0a10905031131w60b41f45r822885f63953356b@mail.gmail.com> <03cf01c9cc20$13823550$3a869ff0$@com> Message-ID: <177c0a10905031233s19a108d2va08f964271342e91@mail.gmail.com> They are selling products and there is no order data--the store part has never been live. Cleaning out both ecommerce modules is potentially feasible. There is a "guide" to this on the Ubercart site, but the lead there (who wrote it) recommends against it. :) > In terms of the overall upgrade to 6 - is this a stock theme and are there > upgrade paths to 6 for the modules in use. Sites that are done wrong in 5 > can be a problem to move to 6. I have ran into that trying to move my first > attempt at Drupal from 5 to 6. Yes, I had the same thought. The theme is custom and the site has a bunch of modules--not all of which I think are even used. > Fred, I know you know this but I will say backup everything before trying > this. Several copies of the site already exist. :) Thanks! From bill at funnymonkey.com Sun May 3 21:13:15 2009 From: bill at funnymonkey.com (Bill Fitzgerald) Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 14:13:15 -0700 Subject: [support] How to Fix a Messed Up Site In-Reply-To: <177c0a10905031233s19a108d2va08f964271342e91@mail.gmail.com> References: <177c0a10905031131w60b41f45r822885f63953356b@mail.gmail.com> <03cf01c9cc20$13823550$3a869ff0$@com> <177c0a10905031233s19a108d2va08f964271342e91@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49FE08EB.4000409@funnymonkey.com> It sounds like you are in a 6 of one, half dozen of another situation. Attempting to clean up the existing site might feel like the shorter path, and from a short term perspective it might be. But, in the process of cleaning up the site, there is a fairly good chance that some cruft will be missed -- and today's overlooked cruft is the fringe case bug three months from now. My advice: start from scratch. It might take longer over the next 1-2 weeks, but it will give you both peace of mind and a known, reliable, documented foundation as you move forward. Cheers, Bill Fred Jones wrote: > They are selling products and there is no order data--the store part > has never been live. Cleaning out both ecommerce modules is > potentially feasible. There is a "guide" to this on the Ubercart site, > but the lead there (who wrote it) recommends against it. :) > > >> In terms of the overall upgrade to 6 - is this a stock theme and are there >> upgrade paths to 6 for the modules in use. Sites that are done wrong in 5 >> can be a problem to move to 6. I have ran into that trying to move my first >> attempt at Drupal from 5 to 6. >> > > Yes, I had the same thought. The theme is custom and the site has a > bunch of modules--not all of which I think are even used. > > >> Fred, I know you know this but I will say backup everything before trying >> this. >> > > Several copies of the site already exist. :) > > Thanks! > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > > > -- Bill Fitzgerald http://funnymonkey.com FunnyMonkey -- Click. Connect. Learn. ph. 503 897 7160 From gordon at heydon.com.au Sun May 3 22:25:39 2009 From: gordon at heydon.com.au (Gordon Heydon) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 08:25:39 +1000 Subject: [support] How to Fix a Messed Up Site In-Reply-To: <177c0a10905031131w60b41f45r822885f63953356b@mail.gmail.com> References: <177c0a10905031131w60b41f45r822885f63953356b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <88B7E706-18F1-4F13-9F05-9A5E0647C337@heydon.com.au> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, With uc and ec I would recommend just removing all the tables, or you just enable them and uninstall them. But I think if they are running v3.x of ec then it may not remove the, With ec you can just drop all the tables starting with ec_ and this will get rid of them as well uninstalling them. Moving forward I would recommend that because you are wanting to use CiviCRM that you use e-Commerce to provide you store as because ec provides support for using CiviCRM contacts as customers, and also in the future I am going to provide an interface to allow CiviCRM to use e-Commerce payment gateways as so you only need to use 1 piece of code to do all payments. Gordon. On 04/05/2009, at 4:31 AM, Fred Jones wrote: > I am given now a D5 site with eCommerce and Ubercart both installed > but deactivated. The original developer still has a dev version > somewhere where Ubercart is activated and appears to be working. The > owners now want me to provide them with ecommerce capability. I have > read that eCommerce and Ubercart are not compatible. The site owners > furthermore want to upgrade to D6 and also the latest version of > CiviCRM (which anyway requires D6). > > But when I explained that it may be necessary to rebuild the site in > D6 and then export/import the data (nodes and users) and that will > take a day or two of work, they have asked if there is any other way > to provide ecommerce functionality more simply. Aside from having paid > once for this site to an incompetent developer, they happen to be on a > very limited budget (they are an NPO). > > So, any other suggestions? > > I could just turn on Ubercart and hope it works I suppose. Heh heh. > I'm not too thrilled about that however. > > Thanks. > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkn+GeMACgkQngavurZvkrwbgwCfRNlPTm7GcJGB3uEd2aKdsGVs 9UcAn3bUmLnoopvenDCnbJdeUdRuw+1x =7zEW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From bob at morsemedia.net Mon May 4 02:59:04 2009 From: bob at morsemedia.net (Bob Morse) Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 19:59:04 -0700 Subject: [support] How to Fix a Messed Up Site In-Reply-To: <49FE08EB.4000409@funnymonkey.com> References: <177c0a10905031131w60b41f45r822885f63953356b@mail.gmail.com> <03cf01c9cc20$13823550$3a869ff0$@com> <177c0a10905031233s19a108d2va08f964271342e91@mail.gmail.com> <49FE08EB.4000409@funnymonkey.com> Message-ID: <49FE59F8.4050508@morsemedia.net> I agree with Bill. We just inherited a 5.x site that was poorly organized. The client couldn't update some content areas. We could have fixed it. But in the long term it was better to start over with a D6 site, port the content over, organize it in a more logical way and train the client on content management. This took longer, but in the long run will pay off for the client in many ways. Bill Fitzgerald wrote: > It sounds like you are in a 6 of one, half dozen of another situation. > > Attempting to clean up the existing site might feel like the shorter > path, and from a short term perspective it might be. But, in the > process of cleaning up the site, there is a fairly good chance that > some cruft will be missed -- and today's overlooked cruft is the > fringe case bug three months from now. > > My advice: start from scratch. It might take longer over the next 1-2 > weeks, but it will give you both peace of mind and a known, reliable, > documented foundation as you move forward. > > Cheers, > > Bill > > Fred Jones wrote: >> They are selling products and there is no order data--the store part >> has never been live. Cleaning out both ecommerce modules is >> potentially feasible. There is a "guide" to this on the Ubercart site, >> but the lead there (who wrote it) recommends against it. :) >> >> >>> In terms of the overall upgrade to 6 - is this a stock theme and are >>> there >>> upgrade paths to 6 for the modules in use. Sites that are done wrong >>> in 5 >>> can be a problem to move to 6. I have ran into that trying to move >>> my first >>> attempt at Drupal from 5 to 6. >>> >> >> Yes, I had the same thought. The theme is custom and the site has a >> bunch of modules--not all of which I think are even used. >> >> >>> Fred, I know you know this but I will say backup everything before >>> trying >>> this. >>> >> >> Several copies of the site already exist. :) >> >> Thanks! >> -- >> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >> >> >> > > -- Bob Morse Morse Media Web Development * Web Hosting * Internet Marketing http://morsemedia.net 707-444-9566 707-496-9191 (cell) Blog: http://talkingtech.net From victorkane at gmail.com Mon May 4 04:18:39 2009 From: victorkane at gmail.com (Victor Kane) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 01:18:39 -0300 Subject: [support] How to Fix a Messed Up Site In-Reply-To: <49FE59F8.4050508@morsemedia.net> References: <177c0a10905031131w60b41f45r822885f63953356b@mail.gmail.com> <03cf01c9cc20$13823550$3a869ff0$@com> <177c0a10905031233s19a108d2va08f964271342e91@mail.gmail.com> <49FE08EB.4000409@funnymonkey.com> <49FE59F8.4050508@morsemedia.net> Message-ID: Apart from agreeing wholeheartedly with rebuilding in D6 and importing, In cases like this, I thought it could be interesting to share what methods people use for porting nodes. I recently used the Views Bonus Pack CVS output to export from the legacy D5 site, and node_import the output file directly into the D6 site. I have also used xmlrpc with the Services module, and also with the stock xmlrpc functionality that comes with Drupal core, as outlined in Pro Drupal Development. Naturally I have also used custom scripts. Anyone else have other ideas? Victor Kane http://awebfactory.com.ar http://projectflowandtracker.com On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Bob Morse wrote: > I agree with Bill. We just inherited a 5.x site that was poorly organized. > The client couldn't update some content areas. We could have fixed it. But > in the long term it was better to start over with a D6 site, port the > content over, organize it in a more logical way and train the client on > content management. This took longer, but in the long run will pay off for > the client in many ways. > > > Bill Fitzgerald wrote: > >> It sounds like you are in a 6 of one, half dozen of another situation. >> >> Attempting to clean up the existing site might feel like the shorter path, >> and from a short term perspective it might be. But, in the process of >> cleaning up the site, there is a fairly good chance that some cruft will be >> missed -- and today's overlooked cruft is the fringe case bug three months >> from now. >> >> My advice: start from scratch. It might take longer over the next 1-2 >> weeks, but it will give you both peace of mind and a known, reliable, >> documented foundation as you move forward. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Bill >> >> Fred Jones wrote: >> >>> They are selling products and there is no order data--the store part >>> has never been live. Cleaning out both ecommerce modules is >>> potentially feasible. There is a "guide" to this on the Ubercart site, >>> but the lead there (who wrote it) recommends against it. :) >>> >>> >>> >>>> In terms of the overall upgrade to 6 - is this a stock theme and are >>>> there >>>> upgrade paths to 6 for the modules in use. Sites that are done wrong in >>>> 5 >>>> can be a problem to move to 6. I have ran into that trying to move my >>>> first >>>> attempt at Drupal from 5 to 6. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Yes, I had the same thought. The theme is custom and the site has a >>> bunch of modules--not all of which I think are even used. >>> >>> >>> >>>> Fred, I know you know this but I will say backup everything before >>>> trying >>>> this. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Several copies of the site already exist. :) >>> >>> Thanks! >>> -- >>> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > -- > Bob Morse > Morse Media > Web Development * Web Hosting * Internet Marketing > http://morsemedia.net > 707-444-9566 > 707-496-9191 (cell) > Blog: http://talkingtech.net > > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pamcaymol at yahoo.com Mon May 4 05:10:32 2009 From: pamcaymol at yahoo.com (Pam CaymolBadger) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 22:10:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [support] How to Fix a Messed Up Site In-Reply-To: <49FE59F8.4050508@morsemedia.net> Message-ID: <459268.26487.qm@web59816.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?PLEASE TELL THE WEBMASTER TO TAKE ME OFF THIS LIST I HAVE TRIED? MAILMAN@ DRUPAL AMD ALL THE OTHERS? , THEY HAVEMY PEROSNAL INFO ON THE NET - WHICH I HAVE SHOWN TO AN ATTY , I GET MAIL FROM MEMBERS ALL THE TIME IN SPAM? , THANKS IF YOU? CAN SEND? THEM THIS - THEY REJECT MY EMAILS . OR MY ATTY? WILL WILL CONTACT? THEM .PAM? ? ? ?- On Mon, 5/4/09, Bob Morse wrote: From: Bob Morse Subject: Re: [support] How to Fix a Messed Up Site To: support at drupal.org Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 2:59 AM I agree with Bill. We just inherited a 5.x site that was poorly organized. The client couldn't update some content areas. We could have fixed it. But in the long term it was better to start over with a D6 site, port the content over, organize it in a more logical way and train the client on content management. This took longer, but in the long run will pay off for the client in many ways. Bill Fitzgerald wrote: > It sounds like you are in a 6 of one, half dozen of another situation. > > Attempting to clean up the existing site might feel like the shorter path, and from a short term perspective it might be. But, in the process of cleaning up the site, there is a fairly good chance that some cruft will be missed -- and today's overlooked cruft is the fringe case bug three months from now. > > My advice: start from scratch. It might take longer over the next 1-2 weeks, but it will give you both peace of mind and a known, reliable, documented foundation as you move forward. > > Cheers, > > Bill > > Fred Jones wrote: >> They are selling products and there is no order data--the store part >> has never been live. Cleaning out both ecommerce modules is >> potentially feasible. There is a "guide" to this on the Ubercart site, >> but the lead there (who wrote it) recommends against it. :) >> >> >>> In terms of the overall upgrade to 6 - is this a stock theme and are there >>> upgrade paths to 6 for the modules in use. Sites that are done wrong in 5 >>> can be a problem to move to 6. I have ran into that trying to move my first >>> attempt at Drupal from 5 to 6. >>> >> >> Yes, I had the same thought. The theme is custom and the site has a >> bunch of modules--not all of which I think are even used. >> >> >>> Fred, I know you know this but I will say backup everything before trying >>> this. >>> >> >> Several copies of the site already exist. :) >> >> Thanks! >> -- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >> >> >> > > -- Bob Morse Morse Media Web Development * Web Hosting * Internet Marketing http://morsemedia.net 707-444-9566 707-496-9191 (cell) Blog: http://talkingtech.net -- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pamcaymol at yahoo.com Mon May 4 05:10:35 2009 From: pamcaymol at yahoo.com (Pam CaymolBadger) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 22:10:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [support] How to Fix a Messed Up Site In-Reply-To: <49FE59F8.4050508@morsemedia.net> Message-ID: <868994.34475.qm@web59809.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?PLEASE TELL THE WEBMASTER TO TAKE ME OFF THIS LIST I HAVE TRIED? MAILMAN@ DRUPAL AMD ALL THE OTHERS? , THEY HAVEMY PEROSNAL INFO ON THE NET - WHICH I HAVE SHOWN TO AN ATTY , I GET MAIL FROM MEMBERS ALL THE TIME IN SPAM? , THANKS IF YOU? CAN SEND? THEM THIS - THEY REJECT MY EMAILS . OR MY ATTY? WILL WILL CONTACT? THEM .PAM? ? ? ?- On Mon, 5/4/09, Bob Morse wrote: From: Bob Morse Subject: Re: [support] How to Fix a Messed Up Site To: support at drupal.org Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 2:59 AM I agree with Bill. We just inherited a 5.x site that was poorly organized. The client couldn't update some content areas. We could have fixed it. But in the long term it was better to start over with a D6 site, port the content over, organize it in a more logical way and train the client on content management. This took longer, but in the long run will pay off for the client in many ways. Bill Fitzgerald wrote: > It sounds like you are in a 6 of one, half dozen of another situation. > > Attempting to clean up the existing site might feel like the shorter path, and from a short term perspective it might be. But, in the process of cleaning up the site, there is a fairly good chance that some cruft will be missed -- and today's overlooked cruft is the fringe case bug three months from now. > > My advice: start from scratch. It might take longer over the next 1-2 weeks, but it will give you both peace of mind and a known, reliable, documented foundation as you move forward. > > Cheers, > > Bill > > Fred Jones wrote: >> They are selling products and there is no order data--the store part >> has never been live. Cleaning out both ecommerce modules is >> potentially feasible. There is a "guide" to this on the Ubercart site, >> but the lead there (who wrote it) recommends against it. :) >> >> >>> In terms of the overall upgrade to 6 - is this a stock theme and are there >>> upgrade paths to 6 for the modules in use. Sites that are done wrong in 5 >>> can be a problem to move to 6. I have ran into that trying to move my first >>> attempt at Drupal from 5 to 6. >>> >> >> Yes, I had the same thought. The theme is custom and the site has a >> bunch of modules--not all of which I think are even used. >> >> >>> Fred, I know you know this but I will say backup everything before trying >>> this. >>> >> >> Several copies of the site already exist. :) >> >> Thanks! >> -- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >> >> >> > > -- Bob Morse Morse Media Web Development * Web Hosting * Internet Marketing http://morsemedia.net 707-444-9566 707-496-9191 (cell) Blog: http://talkingtech.net -- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fredthejonester at gmail.com Mon May 4 07:39:00 2009 From: fredthejonester at gmail.com (Fred Jones) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 10:39:00 +0300 Subject: [support] How to Fix a Messed Up Site In-Reply-To: References: <177c0a10905031131w60b41f45r822885f63953356b@mail.gmail.com> <03cf01c9cc20$13823550$3a869ff0$@com> <177c0a10905031233s19a108d2va08f964271342e91@mail.gmail.com> <49FE08EB.4000409@funnymonkey.com> <49FE59F8.4050508@morsemedia.net> Message-ID: <177c0a10905040039r522d1a1di8b950d325ea3f65e@mail.gmail.com> > Apart from agreeing wholeheartedly with rebuilding in D6 and importing, Thanks for the input everyone. Nice to hear confirmation sometimes. :) Fred From mail at webthatworks.it Mon May 4 10:35:28 2009 From: mail at webthatworks.it (Ivan Sergio Borgonovo) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 12:35:28 +0200 Subject: [support] D6 schema api sharing a sequence/serial across several tables Message-ID: <20090504123528.3ef76752@dawn.webthatworks.it> Hi, Is it possible just using schema api abstraction to share a sequence across several tables? Will it be possible in D7? BTW is there a place to see what are the current feature of D7 DB abstraction layer? I'm going to skip porting to D6 some stuff directly to D7 and I'll have to start with some advance since the stuff is huge. thanks -- Ivan Sergio Borgonovo http://www.webthatworks.it From john.callahan at UDel.Edu Mon May 4 13:20:37 2009 From: john.callahan at UDel.Edu (John Callahan) Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 09:20:37 -0400 Subject: [support] Drupal for image management, with metadata Message-ID: <49FEEBA5.5050200@udel.edu> I have a large collection of images (11,000 at the moment and growing) that I'm thinking about using Drupal for. I'm wondering if anyone has experience doing this and what modules would be beneficial. Using each image as a node with a decent taxonomy should work great for search and discovery. Views, lightbox, etc.. would work well for display methods. However, three questions I do not know the answer to are: 1) batch upload, even if only one directory 2) reading EXIF/IPTC image metadata and mapping them to taxonomy terms and/or CCK fields. 3) syncing attributes (i.e., edits to raw image EXIF/IPTC can update/reimport the node fields/tags and edits to node fields/tags can update the EXIF/IPTC metadata.) I'm using Gallery2 right now (http://gallery.menalto.com/, http://drupal.org/project/gallery) and it does some (item #1 and partially #2) of what I need. It even integrates nicely with Drupal for users and display of images and albums. However, I use Drupal for many other sites (and I'd like to use views, lightbox, tags, etc...) and wondering if I can bypass Gallery altogether. Any thoughts or experiences out there? Thanks. - John ************************************************** John Callahan Geospatial Application Developer Delaware Geological Survey, University of Delaware 227 Academy St, Newark DE 19716-7501 Tel: (302) 831-3584 Email: john.callahan at udel.edu http://www.dgs.udel.edu ************************************************** From pierre.rineau at makina-corpus.com Mon May 4 13:57:02 2009 From: pierre.rineau at makina-corpus.com (Pierre Rineau) Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 15:57:02 +0200 Subject: [support] Drupal for image management, with metadata In-Reply-To: <49FEEBA5.5050200@udel.edu> References: <49FEEBA5.5050200@udel.edu> Message-ID: <1241445422.6365.14.camel@guinevere.makina-nantes.net> Le lundi 04 mai 2009 ? 09:20 -0400, John Callahan a ?crit : > I have a large collection of images (11,000 at the moment and growing) > that I'm thinking about using Drupal for. I'm wondering if anyone has > experience doing this and what modules would be beneficial. Using each > image as a node with a decent taxonomy should work great for search and > discovery. Views, lightbox, etc.. would work well for display methods. > However, three questions I do not know the answer to are: > > > 1) batch upload, even if only one directory For batch upload, you shouldn't experience any problems, image module does it well (as I remember, with a sub module which is packaged with image), you give to it a folder in your PHP upload dir and it imports all your images with taxonomy you gave. > 2) reading EXIF/IPTC image metadata and mapping them to taxonomy terms > and/or CCK fields. I did not try any EXIF/IPTC image extraction, I guess there are some modules which handle this. > 3) syncing attributes (i.e., edits to raw image EXIF/IPTC can > update/reimport the node fields/tags and edits to node fields/tags can > update the EXIF/IPTC metadata.) I think that, if you want to do a full CCK based site, you can use ImageCache / ImageField, but I have not enough experience with those modules to tell you if they are this good. The problem with those modules is that your images will only be visible as CCK field values. Image module has a great advantages, WYSIWYG great integration with img_assist, well working views integration, and each image is a node (which you can use as a noderef field later with CCK). Doing views taxonomy and/or CCK based should works well with both solutions. I think you should also look at existing gallery modules, there is even a gallery2 integration module which exists, using the gallery2 API to display your gallery2 managed galleries into a Drupal (in this case, Drupal does not handle itself the images). > > I'm using Gallery2 right now (http://gallery.menalto.com/, > http://drupal.org/project/gallery) and it does some (item #1 and > partially #2) of what I need. It even integrates nicely with Drupal for > users and display of images and albums. However, I use Drupal for many > other sites (and I'd like to use views, lightbox, tags, etc...) and > wondering if I can bypass Gallery altogether. Any thoughts or > experiences out there? Thanks. I did successfully set a custom gallery using Image/img_assist/views, based on CCK views, and a bit of theming. The only problem I got is for user rights management (as my albums are taxonomy based). > > - John > > ************************************************** > John Callahan > Geospatial Application Developer > Delaware Geological Survey, University of Delaware > 227 Academy St, Newark DE 19716-7501 > Tel: (302) 831-3584 > Email: john.callahan at udel.edu > http://www.dgs.udel.edu > ************************************************** > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] Pierre. From bchoc at t4tcolorado.org Mon May 4 15:52:03 2009 From: bchoc at t4tcolorado.org (Brian Choc) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 09:52:03 -0600 Subject: [support] Drupal for image management, with metadata In-Reply-To: <49FEEBA5.5050200@udel.edu> References: <49FEEBA5.5050200@udel.edu> Message-ID: <507b282e0905040852o5ce33229raa5f0406a59afffc@mail.gmail.com> You may also want to look at http://drupal.org/project/imagefield_import which uses ImageField instead of Image module. Brian On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 7:20 AM, John Callahan wrote: > I have a large collection of images (11,000 at the moment and growing) that > I'm thinking about using Drupal for. I'm wondering if anyone has experience > doing this and what modules would be beneficial. Using each image as a node > with a decent taxonomy should work great for search and discovery. Views, > lightbox, etc.. would work well for display methods. However, three > questions I do not know the answer to are: > > > 1) batch upload, even if only one directory > 2) reading EXIF/IPTC image metadata and mapping them to taxonomy terms > and/or CCK fields. 3) syncing attributes (i.e., edits to raw image EXIF/IPTC > can update/reimport the node fields/tags and edits to node fields/tags can > update the EXIF/IPTC metadata.) > > > I'm using Gallery2 right now (http://gallery.menalto.com/, > http://drupal.org/project/gallery) and it does some (item #1 and partially > #2) of what I need. It even integrates nicely with Drupal for users and > display of images and albums. However, I use Drupal for many other sites > (and I'd like to use views, lightbox, tags, etc...) and wondering if I can > bypass Gallery altogether. Any thoughts or experiences out there? Thanks. > > > > - John > > ************************************************** > John Callahan > Geospatial Application Developer > Delaware Geological Survey, University of Delaware > 227 Academy St, Newark DE 19716-7501 > Tel: (302) 831-3584 Email: john.callahan at udel.edu > http://www.dgs.udel.edu > ************************************************** > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john.callahan at UDel.Edu Mon May 4 17:17:06 2009 From: john.callahan at UDel.Edu (John Callahan) Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 13:17:06 -0400 Subject: [support] Drupal for image management, with metadata In-Reply-To: <507b282e0905040852o5ce33229raa5f0406a59afffc@mail.gmail.com> References: <49FEEBA5.5050200@udel.edu> <507b282e0905040852o5ce33229raa5f0406a59afffc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49FF2312.8090304@udel.edu> Thanks for the link. IMO, ImageField is definitely the way to go and what I currently use in all my sites. Among that module, the MAQUM module (http://drupal.org/project/maqum, D5 only), and the EXIF module (http://drupal.org/project/exif), there's plenty of potential. A related conversation about the roadmap of the EXIF module is here: http://drupal.org/node/226703. Looks great but still a ways off. - John ************************************************** John Callahan Geospatial Application Developer Delaware Geological Survey, University of Delaware 227 Academy St, Newark DE 19716-7501 Tel: (302) 831-3584 Email: john.callahan at udel.edu http://www.dgs.udel.edu ************************************************** Brian Choc wrote: > You may also want to look at > http://drupal.org/project/imagefield_import > which uses ImageField instead of Image module. > > Brian > > > > > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 7:20 AM, John Callahan > wrote: > > I have a large collection of images (11,000 at the moment and > growing) that I'm thinking about using Drupal for. I'm wondering > if anyone has experience doing this and what modules would be > beneficial. Using each image as a node with a decent taxonomy > should work great for search and discovery. Views, lightbox, > etc.. would work well for display methods. However, three > questions I do not know the answer to are: > > > 1) batch upload, even if only one directory > 2) reading EXIF/IPTC image metadata and mapping them to taxonomy > terms and/or CCK fields. 3) syncing attributes (i.e., edits to raw > image EXIF/IPTC can update/reimport the node fields/tags and edits > to node fields/tags can update the EXIF/IPTC metadata.) > > > I'm using Gallery2 right now (http://gallery.menalto.com/, > http://drupal.org/project/gallery) and it does some (item #1 and > partially #2) of what I need. It even integrates nicely with > Drupal for users and display of images and albums. However, I > use Drupal for many other sites (and I'd like to use views, > lightbox, tags, etc...) and wondering if I can bypass Gallery > altogether. Any thoughts or experiences out there? 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URL: From justin.gruenberg at gmail.com Tue May 5 07:31:27 2009 From: justin.gruenberg at gmail.com (Justin Gruenberg) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 02:31:27 -0500 Subject: [support] Drupal for image management, with metadata In-Reply-To: <49FEEBA5.5050200@udel.edu> References: <49FEEBA5.5050200@udel.edu> Message-ID: <96cd751f0905050031n440bb304t342bd682e21919f0@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 8:20 AM, John Callahan wrote: > 1) batch upload, even if only one directory http://drupal.org/project/image_fupload That module provides a pretty nice way for you to upload images. Probably not 11k at a time nice, but it does work well and does allow you to fiddle with some attributes per image when you upload. It works with ImageField (CCK) and image.module. If you go the image.module route, theres some other batch upload modules that can work with a directory on the server. > 2) reading EXIF/IPTC image metadata and mapping them to taxonomy terms > and/or CCK fields. 3) syncing attributes (i.e., edits to raw image EXIF/IPTC > can update/reimport the node fields/tags and edits to node fields/tags can > update the EXIF/IPTC metadata.) I haven't done anything this complex with image galleries, but I can say... expect to do a good amount of fiddling and possibly writing some custom code to get what you want. > I'm using Gallery2 right now (http://gallery.menalto.com/, > http://drupal.org/project/gallery) and it does some (item #1 and partially > #2) of what I need. ?It even integrates nicely with Drupal for users and > display of images and albums. ? However, I use Drupal for many other sites > (and I'd like to use views, lightbox, tags, etc...) and wondering if I can > bypass Gallery altogether. ?Any thoughts or experiences out there? ? Thanks. I'd say if gallery2 works for you, stay with it. That's a package thats built for hosting images. If you're not afraid of getting your hands dirty, drupal might meet your needs closer. From development at standoutdesign.nl Tue May 5 07:46:42 2009 From: development at standoutdesign.nl (Stefan Nagtegaal) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 09:46:42 +0200 Subject: [support] Drupal for image management, with metadata In-Reply-To: <96cd751f0905050031n440bb304t342bd682e21919f0@mail.gmail.com> References: <49FEEBA5.5050200@udel.edu> <96cd751f0905050031n440bb304t342bd682e21919f0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <33BD3E24-FFFE-42E1-B447-43EB9D0345B6@standoutdesign.nl> John, If you really want this, and you want to have this work good I can give you one advise: do not use drupal for this. Drupal is not built for image management/manipulation. I'm a professional photographer and gave up about setting up a drupal showcase for photographs a long time ago. Although, there is some hope for the future as there are some pretty smart and highly trained drupal ninjas busy with getting image manipulation and file management right in Drupal. For now, I would go for something else like Gallery, or even Fluxiom (which is absolutely fabulous btw). But Drupal is really too limited to be usable for setups like these. Kind regards, Stefan Nagtegaal From earnie at users.sourceforge.net Tue May 5 11:29:21 2009 From: earnie at users.sourceforge.net (Earnie Boyd) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 11:29:21 +0000 Subject: [support] Create X nodes In-Reply-To: <066001c9cd2b$2fde37b0$8f9aa710$@com> References: <066001c9cd2b$2fde37b0$8f9aa710$@com> Message-ID: <20090505112921.13407l3fz3lnprks@mail.siebunlimited.com> Quoting Steve Kessler : > I am looking for a module that will create X number of nodes of a specific > type where an admin user will stipulate the number of nodes, the type of > node being created , a user other than the admin to own the node and > pre-populate a title and CCK fields based on the admin users entries. > > > > For example you want to have 5 movie nodes called New Movie and populate all > five with a specific code. The assigned user would then have the ability to > edit and essentially create new movies without the create node privilege. > Check the devel module. It has methods to create X nodes and other data. You could get ideas from it. -- Earnie -- http://r-feed.com/ -- http://for-my-kids.com/ -- http://www.4offer.biz/ -- http://give-me-an-offer.com/ From john.callahan at UDel.Edu Tue May 5 14:13:20 2009 From: john.callahan at UDel.Edu (John Callahan) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 10:13:20 -0400 Subject: [support] Drupal for image management, with metadata In-Reply-To: <33BD3E24-FFFE-42E1-B447-43EB9D0345B6@standoutdesign.nl> References: <49FEEBA5.5050200@udel.edu> <96cd751f0905050031n440bb304t342bd682e21919f0@mail.gmail.com> <33BD3E24-FFFE-42E1-B447-43EB9D0345B6@standoutdesign.nl> Message-ID: <4A004980.20009@udel.edu> Thanks Stefan. When I looked a year ago, Drupal was not even an option. Now that D6 modules have grown and matured, it's looking much better. However, it's not there yet for image management, particularly with regards to EXIF/IPTC metadata and file/database synchronization. (I'm not worried about image manipulation other than scaling, and potentially cropping and adding a watermark. Imagecache does a lot of what I need here.) I can definitely see myself using Drupal for this in the future. Easier from the system admin/development perspective since I already run multiple Drupal sites. And, more importantly, content integration. I want to use the same taxonomy and CCK fields for my images as I do for my typical web content. When users search my web, I want to have images returned alongside my other content, like new stories, publications, blog posts, etc... I actually don't want to use a separate image management system but will do so for the time being. - John ************************************************** John Callahan Geospatial Application Developer Delaware Geological Survey, University of Delaware 227 Academy St, Newark DE 19716-7501 Tel: (302) 831-3584 Email: john.callahan at udel.edu http://www.dgs.udel.edu ************************************************** Stefan Nagtegaal wrote: > John, > > If you really want this, and you want to have this work good I can > give you one advise: do not use drupal for this. > Drupal is not built for image management/manipulation. > > I'm a professional photographer and gave up about setting up a drupal > showcase for photographs a long time ago. > Although, there is some hope for the future as there are some pretty > smart and highly trained drupal ninjas busy with getting image > manipulation and file management right in Drupal. > > For now, I would go for something else like Gallery, or even Fluxiom > (which is absolutely fabulous btw). > But Drupal is really too limited to be usable for setups like these. > > Kind regards, > > > Stefan Nagtegaal > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] From john.callahan at UDel.Edu Tue May 5 14:28:47 2009 From: john.callahan at UDel.Edu (John Callahan) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 10:28:47 -0400 Subject: [support] Drupal for image management, with metadata In-Reply-To: <96cd751f0905050031n440bb304t342bd682e21919f0@mail.gmail.com> References: <49FEEBA5.5050200@udel.edu> <96cd751f0905050031n440bb304t342bd682e21919f0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A004D1F.4060701@udel.edu> Thanks Justin for this link. I'll look into it. The problem is that Gallery2 is not working for me. It does a lot but missing some key points that could be project killers. I do not like the date (and general) search mechanism. It only makes a few metadata items (IPTC Keywords, Caption, Object Name and GPS Coordinates) searchable by mapping them to image attributes in the database. And there's no way I know of to sync these attributes in the web/database with the image file itself. Ultimately, I want my images to be searched the same time as my other web content. So, I will have to pay for a service (like Fluxiom), pay for a commercial image management product, or get my hands dirty in Drupal and/or Gallery2. Looks like I'll be getting my hands dirty. :-) Now, if I can just fit that in with the other 20 projects I need to get my hands dirty with! - John Justin Gruenberg wrote: > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 8:20 AM, John Callahan wrote: > >> 1) batch upload, even if only one directory >> > > http://drupal.org/project/image_fupload > > That module provides a pretty nice way for you to upload images. > Probably not 11k at a time nice, but it does work well and does allow > you to fiddle with some attributes per image when you upload. It > works with ImageField (CCK) and image.module. > > If you go the image.module route, theres some other batch upload > modules that can work with a directory on the server. > > >> 2) reading EXIF/IPTC image metadata and mapping them to taxonomy terms >> and/or CCK fields. 3) syncing attributes (i.e., edits to raw image EXIF/IPTC >> can update/reimport the node fields/tags and edits to node fields/tags can >> update the EXIF/IPTC metadata.) >> > > I haven't done anything this complex with image galleries, but I can > say... expect to do a good amount of fiddling and possibly writing > some custom code to get what you want. > > >> I'm using Gallery2 right now (http://gallery.menalto.com/, >> http://drupal.org/project/gallery) and it does some (item #1 and partially >> #2) of what I need. It even integrates nicely with Drupal for users and >> display of images and albums. However, I use Drupal for many other sites >> (and I'd like to use views, lightbox, tags, etc...) and wondering if I can >> bypass Gallery altogether. Any thoughts or experiences out there? Thanks. >> > > I'd say if gallery2 works for you, stay with it. That's a package > thats built for hosting images. If you're not afraid of getting your > hands dirty, drupal might meet your needs closer. > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john.callahan at UDel.Edu Tue May 5 16:13:50 2009 From: john.callahan at UDel.Edu (John Callahan) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 12:13:50 -0400 Subject: [support] navigating through Drupal modules (was Drupal for image management, with metadata) In-Reply-To: <96cd751f0905050031n440bb304t342bd682e21919f0@mail.gmail.com> References: <49FEEBA5.5050200@udel.edu> <96cd751f0905050031n440bb304t342bd682e21919f0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A0065BE.30306@udel.edu> Yet another potentially extremely useful module I didn't even know existed! Can I make suggestion? Can we have a simple, one-page listing of all Drupal modules, with appropriate tags, to allow for easy navigation and visualization? Users can sort the list as they want. With a few additional tags/facets (like core version supported, date, author, etc..), imagine how fast you can find what's available and start digging further. Here is a test I quickly put together for a subset of modules: http://geo42.com/sites/drupal-modules.html IMO, an automated list like this one is more helpful than any rating system (almost always fraught with problems) or the current d.o module lists (page-based, too much information, hard to quickly navigate.) Ratings systems, blog posts, projects like drupaltoughlove.com, usage statistics, etc..., are all great but only should be considered as part of the whole. For me, they simply help direct where to look deeper. A list like the above would make things simpler, faster. We all know that finding modules to use with Drupal is a difficult task, one with real consequences. There are no easy answers yet. It's a task that turns some first time users away from Drupal and continues to frustrate some current Drupal practitioners. It's especially frustrating when trying to convince others in your organization (like the IT department) to go with Drupal; they start to delve into it and get lost in what can be done practically and securely via Drupal. It's a great development design but difficult in practice. - John ************************************************** John Callahan Geospatial Application Developer Delaware Geological Survey, University of Delaware 227 Academy St, Newark DE 19716-7501 Tel: (302) 831-3584 Email: john.callahan at udel.edu http://www.dgs.udel.edu ************************************************** Justin Gruenberg wrote: > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 8:20 AM, John Callahan wrote: > >> 1) batch upload, even if only one directory >> > > http://drupal.org/project/image_fupload > > That module provides a pretty nice way for you to upload images. > Probably not 11k at a time nice, but it does work well and does allow > you to fiddle with some attributes per image when you upload. It > works with ImageField (CCK) and image.module. > > If you go the image.module route, theres some other batch upload > modules that can work with a directory on the server. > > >> 2) reading EXIF/IPTC image metadata and mapping them to taxonomy terms >> and/or CCK fields. 3) syncing attributes (i.e., edits to raw image EXIF/IPTC >> can update/reimport the node fields/tags and edits to node fields/tags can >> update the EXIF/IPTC metadata.) >> > > I haven't done anything this complex with image galleries, but I can > say... expect to do a good amount of fiddling and possibly writing > some custom code to get what you want. > > >> I'm using Gallery2 right now (http://gallery.menalto.com/, >> http://drupal.org/project/gallery) and it does some (item #1 and partially >> #2) of what I need. It even integrates nicely with Drupal for users and >> display of images and albums. However, I use Drupal for many other sites >> (and I'd like to use views, lightbox, tags, etc...) and wondering if I can >> bypass Gallery altogether. Any thoughts or experiences out there? Thanks. >> > > I'd say if gallery2 works for you, stay with it. That's a package > thats built for hosting images. If you're not afraid of getting your > hands dirty, drupal might meet your needs closer. > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From inforazor at gmail.com Tue May 5 20:18:56 2009 From: inforazor at gmail.com (sebastian) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 13:18:56 -0700 Subject: [support] url rewrite issues with primary links Message-ID: <4A009F30.4020202@gmail.com> Dearest Drupalites, Having a strange issue with domain rewrites/clean URLs Moved a website from: http://basedomain.com to http://basedomain.com/test/ [so I can do testing] Changed the .htaccess where it says: RewriteBase / to: RewriteBase /test Added the baseurl to the settings.php For the admin theme I am using Garland, for the live pages I am using a different custom theme. When I view content, they all have links without the ?q= and it works just fine. When I am in the admin-garland theme, the primary links at the top all have correct links with clean urls and work fine, like this: http://basedomain.com/test/home When I am in the live-custom theme, the primary links at the top all have an extra ?q= added to them like this: http://basedomain.com/test/?q=/test/home This obviously doesn't work and gives an error page. Instead of what it should have: http://basedomain.com/test/home Does anyone have any idea why my custom theme is having problems knowing what the primary nav links should be? How can I stop it from still adding the ?q= ? Do I need to change more in the .htaccess than just the: RewriteBase /test ? Thanks you so much for your help! Sebastian. From inforazor at gmail.com Tue May 5 21:20:05 2009 From: inforazor at gmail.com (sebastian) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 14:20:05 -0700 Subject: [support] url rewrite issues with primary links In-Reply-To: <4A009F30.4020202@gmail.com> References: <4A009F30.4020202@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A00AD85.7000501@gmail.com> Doh, found it. I had made a custom override on the page.tpl.php for CSS/HTML purposes a while back and forgot about it... :P Cheers! Seb. sebastian wrote: > Dearest Drupalites, > > Having a strange issue with domain rewrites/clean URLs > > Moved a website from: > > http://basedomain.com > > to > > http://basedomain.com/test/ > > [so I can do testing] > > Changed the .htaccess where it says: > > RewriteBase / > > to: > > RewriteBase /test > > Added the baseurl to the settings.php > > For the admin theme I am using Garland, for the live pages I am using a > different custom theme. > > When I view content, they all have links without the ?q= and it works > just fine. > > When I am in the admin-garland theme, the primary links at the top all > have correct links with clean urls and work fine, like this: > > http://basedomain.com/test/home > > When I am in the live-custom theme, the primary links at the top all > have an extra ?q= added to them like this: > > http://basedomain.com/test/?q=/test/home > > This obviously doesn't work and gives an error page. > > Instead of what it should have: > > http://basedomain.com/test/home > > Does anyone have any idea why my custom theme is having problems knowing > what the primary nav links should be? How can I stop it from still > adding the ?q= ? > > Do I need to change more in the .htaccess than just the: > > RewriteBase /test > > ? > > Thanks you so much for your help! > > Sebastian. > > From michel at ziobudda.net Tue May 5 22:10:12 2009 From: michel at ziobudda.net (Davide Michel 'ZioBudda' Morelli) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 00:10:12 +0200 Subject: [support] how to theme a non node content ? Message-ID: <4A00B944.6020902@ziobudda.net> Hi all. I need to theme the forward module content. The module can be themed but only via page-forward.tpl.php, but I don't want to duplicate the page.tpl.php file. I want (if possibile) that Drupal use "my-theme_file.tpl.php" for this content. There is way to theme a not node content ? M. -- Michel 'ZioBudda' Morelli michel at ziobudda.net Consulenza sistemistica in ambito OpenSource. Sviluppo applicazioni web dinamiche (LAMP+Ajax) Telefono: 0200619074 Telefono Cell: +39-3939890025 -- Fax: +39-0291390660 http://www.ziobudda.net ICQ: 58351764 http://www.ziobuddalabs.it Skype: zio_budda http://www.ziodrupal.net MSN: michel at ziobuddalabs.it JABBER: michel at ziobuddalabs.it From larry at garfieldtech.com Wed May 6 03:02:21 2009 From: larry at garfieldtech.com (Larry Garfield) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 22:02:21 -0500 Subject: [support] navigating through Drupal modules (was Drupal for image management, with metadata) In-Reply-To: <4A0065BE.30306@udel.edu> References: <49FEEBA5.5050200@udel.edu> <96cd751f0905050031n440bb304t342bd682e21919f0@mail.gmail.com> <4A0065BE.30306@udel.edu> Message-ID: <200905052202.21972.larry@garfieldtech.com> No we can't. There are over 4500 modules. A page listing all modules and providing anything even resembling useful data would be several megabytes in size just to view, to say nothing of the processing costs. We used to have pages like that. They didn't scale. :-) The in-progress site redesign includes much more metadata on projects and ways to search projects, in addition to the new solr faceted search that was added recently. Searching large data sets is not an easy problem. But simply dumping the entire dataset to the page is not a solution at 4500 modules, and it certainly won't be a solution as the number of modules continues to rise. On Tuesday 05 May 2009 11:13:50 am John Callahan wrote: > Yet another potentially extremely useful module I didn't even know > existed! > > Can I make suggestion? Can we have a simple, one-page listing of all > Drupal modules, with appropriate tags, to allow for easy navigation and > visualization? Users can sort the list as they want. With a few > additional tags/facets (like core version supported, date, author, > etc..), imagine how fast you can find what's available and start digging > further. > > Here is a test I quickly put together for a subset of modules: > http://geo42.com/sites/drupal-modules.html > > > IMO, an automated list like this one is more helpful than any rating > system (almost always fraught with problems) or the current d.o module > lists (page-based, too much information, hard to quickly navigate.) > Ratings systems, blog posts, projects like drupaltoughlove.com, usage > statistics, etc..., are all great but only should be considered as part > of the whole. For me, they simply help direct where to look deeper. A > list like the above would make things simpler, faster. > > > We all know that finding modules to use with Drupal is a difficult task, > one with real consequences. There are no easy answers yet. It's a task > that turns some first time users away from Drupal and continues to > frustrate some current Drupal practitioners. It's especially frustrating > when trying to convince others in your organization (like the IT > department) to go with Drupal; they start to delve into it and get lost > in what can be done practically and securely via Drupal. It's a great > development design but difficult in practice. > > > - John > > ************************************************** > John Callahan > Geospatial Application Developer > Delaware Geological Survey, University of Delaware > 227 Academy St, Newark DE 19716-7501 > Tel: (302) 831-3584 > Email: john.callahan at udel.edu > http://www.dgs.udel.edu > ************************************************** > > Justin Gruenberg wrote: > > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 8:20 AM, John Callahan wrote: > >> 1) batch upload, even if only one directory > > > > http://drupal.org/project/image_fupload > > > > That module provides a pretty nice way for you to upload images. > > Probably not 11k at a time nice, but it does work well and does allow > > you to fiddle with some attributes per image when you upload. It > > works with ImageField (CCK) and image.module. > > > > If you go the image.module route, theres some other batch upload > > modules that can work with a directory on the server. > > > >> 2) reading EXIF/IPTC image metadata and mapping them to taxonomy terms > >> and/or CCK fields. 3) syncing attributes (i.e., edits to raw image > >> EXIF/IPTC can update/reimport the node fields/tags and edits to node > >> fields/tags can update the EXIF/IPTC metadata.) > > > > I haven't done anything this complex with image galleries, but I can > > say... expect to do a good amount of fiddling and possibly writing > > some custom code to get what you want. > > > >> I'm using Gallery2 right now (http://gallery.menalto.com/, > >> http://drupal.org/project/gallery) and it does some (item #1 and > >> partially #2) of what I need. It even integrates nicely with Drupal for > >> users and display of images and albums. However, I use Drupal for many > >> other sites (and I'd like to use views, lightbox, tags, etc...) and > >> wondering if I can bypass Gallery altogether. Any thoughts or > >> experiences out there? Thanks. > > > > I'd say if gallery2 works for you, stay with it. That's a package > > thats built for hosting images. If you're not afraid of getting your > > hands dirty, drupal might meet your needs closer. > > -- > > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] -- Larry Garfield larry at garfieldtech.com From john.callahan at UDel.Edu Wed May 6 04:21:24 2009 From: john.callahan at UDel.Edu (John Callahan) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 00:21:24 -0400 Subject: [support] navigating through Drupal modules (was Drupal for image management, with metadata) In-Reply-To: <200905052202.21972.larry@garfieldtech.com> References: <49FEEBA5.5050200@udel.edu> <96cd751f0905050031n440bb304t342bd682e21919f0@mail.gmail.com> <4A0065BE.30306@udel.edu> <200905052202.21972.larry@garfieldtech.com> Message-ID: <4A011044.8020501@udel.edu> Thanks Larry. Had a feeling that was the case. I've seen some Exhibit based sites perform OK with 800 - 1000 items and hoped that would fit here. 4500+ and growing is definitely out of range. I do like the Apache Solr faceted search much better than when d.o was at D5. More metadata about projects would help. Possibly less information returned per project to make it easier to scan. Searching through all of the modules and finding the ones you need is a problem that I hope gets easier, especially for those new to Drupal. I'm looking forward to the new design and trying it out. - John Larry Garfield wrote: > No we can't. There are over 4500 modules. A page listing all modules and > providing anything even resembling useful data would be several megabytes in > size just to view, to say nothing of the processing costs. We used to have > pages like that. They didn't scale. :-) > > The in-progress site redesign includes much more metadata on projects and ways > to search projects, in addition to the new solr faceted search that was added > recently. Searching large data sets is not an easy problem. But simply > dumping the entire dataset to the page is not a solution at 4500 modules, and > it certainly won't be a solution as the number of modules continues to rise. > > On Tuesday 05 May 2009 11:13:50 am John Callahan wrote: > >> Yet another potentially extremely useful module I didn't even know >> existed! >> >> Can I make suggestion? Can we have a simple, one-page listing of all >> Drupal modules, with appropriate tags, to allow for easy navigation and >> visualization? Users can sort the list as they want. With a few >> additional tags/facets (like core version supported, date, author, >> etc..), imagine how fast you can find what's available and start digging >> further. >> >> Here is a test I quickly put together for a subset of modules: >> http://geo42.com/sites/drupal-modules.html >> >> >> IMO, an automated list like this one is more helpful than any rating >> system (almost always fraught with problems) or the current d.o module >> lists (page-based, too much information, hard to quickly navigate.) >> Ratings systems, blog posts, projects like drupaltoughlove.com, usage >> statistics, etc..., are all great but only should be considered as part >> of the whole. For me, they simply help direct where to look deeper. A >> list like the above would make things simpler, faster. >> >> >> We all know that finding modules to use with Drupal is a difficult task, >> one with real consequences. There are no easy answers yet. It's a task >> that turns some first time users away from Drupal and continues to >> frustrate some current Drupal practitioners. It's especially frustrating >> when trying to convince others in your organization (like the IT >> department) to go with Drupal; they start to delve into it and get lost >> in what can be done practically and securely via Drupal. It's a great >> development design but difficult in practice. >> >> >> - John >> >> ************************************************** >> John Callahan >> Geospatial Application Developer >> Delaware Geological Survey, University of Delaware >> 227 Academy St, Newark DE 19716-7501 >> Tel: (302) 831-3584 >> Email: john.callahan at udel.edu >> http://www.dgs.udel.edu >> ************************************************** >> >> Justin Gruenberg wrote: >> >>> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 8:20 AM, John Callahan >>> > wrote: > >>>> 1) batch upload, even if only one directory >>>> >>> http://drupal.org/project/image_fupload >>> >>> That module provides a pretty nice way for you to upload images. >>> Probably not 11k at a time nice, but it does work well and does allow >>> you to fiddle with some attributes per image when you upload. It >>> works with ImageField (CCK) and image.module. >>> >>> If you go the image.module route, theres some other batch upload >>> modules that can work with a directory on the server. >>> >>> >>>> 2) reading EXIF/IPTC image metadata and mapping them to taxonomy terms >>>> and/or CCK fields. 3) syncing attributes (i.e., edits to raw image >>>> EXIF/IPTC can update/reimport the node fields/tags and edits to node >>>> fields/tags can update the EXIF/IPTC metadata.) >>>> >>> I haven't done anything this complex with image galleries, but I can >>> say... expect to do a good amount of fiddling and possibly writing >>> some custom code to get what you want. >>> >>> >>>> I'm using Gallery2 right now (http://gallery.menalto.com/, >>>> http://drupal.org/project/gallery) and it does some (item #1 and >>>> partially #2) of what I need. It even integrates nicely with Drupal for >>>> users and display of images and albums. However, I use Drupal for many >>>> other sites (and I'd like to use views, lightbox, tags, etc...) and >>>> wondering if I can bypass Gallery altogether. Any thoughts or >>>> experiences out there? Thanks. >>>> >>> I'd say if gallery2 works for you, stay with it. That's a package >>> thats built for hosting images. If you're not afraid of getting your >>> hands dirty, drupal might meet your needs closer. >>> -- >>> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >>> > > From pwdowling at yahoo.com Wed May 6 04:54:00 2009 From: pwdowling at yahoo.com (Peter Dowling) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 00:54:00 -0400 Subject: [support] navigating through Drupal modules (was Drupal for image management, with metadata) In-Reply-To: <4A011044.8020501@udel.edu> References: <49FEEBA5.5050200@udel.edu> <96cd751f0905050031n440bb304t342bd682e21919f0@mail.gmail.com> <4A0065BE.30306@udel.edu> <200905052202.21972.larry@garfieldtech.com> <4A011044.8020501@udel.edu> Message-ID: <1241585640.6671.15.camel@peter-mintdesk> I've found Drupalmodules.com very helpful (http://drupalmodules.com/). Perhaps the new d.o. work will make it obsolete, but in the meantime it is certainly an additional tool to look at as far as finding the right module. - Peter On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 00:21 -0400, John Callahan wrote: > Thanks Larry. Had a feeling that was the case. I've seen some Exhibit > based sites perform OK with 800 - 1000 items and hoped that would fit > here. 4500+ and growing is definitely out of range. > > I do like the Apache Solr faceted search much better than when d.o was > at D5. More metadata about projects would help. Possibly less > information returned per project to make it easier to scan. Searching > through all of the modules and finding the ones you need is a problem > that I hope gets easier, especially for those new to Drupal. I'm > looking forward to the new design and trying it out. > > - John > > > > Larry Garfield wrote: > > No we can't. There are over 4500 modules. A page listing all modules and > > providing anything even resembling useful data would be several megabytes in > > size just to view, to say nothing of the processing costs. We used to have > > pages like that. They didn't scale. :-) > > > > The in-progress site redesign includes much more metadata on projects and ways > > to search projects, in addition to the new solr faceted search that was added > > recently. Searching large data sets is not an easy problem. But simply > > dumping the entire dataset to the page is not a solution at 4500 modules, and > > it certainly won't be a solution as the number of modules continues to rise. > > > > On Tuesday 05 May 2009 11:13:50 am John Callahan wrote: > > > >> Yet another potentially extremely useful module I didn't even know > >> existed! > >> > >> Can I make suggestion? Can we have a simple, one-page listing of all > >> Drupal modules, with appropriate tags, to allow for easy navigation and > >> visualization? Users can sort the list as they want. With a few > >> additional tags/facets (like core version supported, date, author, > >> etc..), imagine how fast you can find what's available and start digging > >> further. > >> > >> Here is a test I quickly put together for a subset of modules: > >> http://geo42.com/sites/drupal-modules.html > >> > >> > >> IMO, an automated list like this one is more helpful than any rating > >> system (almost always fraught with problems) or the current d.o module > >> lists (page-based, too much information, hard to quickly navigate.) > >> Ratings systems, blog posts, projects like drupaltoughlove.com, usage > >> statistics, etc..., are all great but only should be considered as part > >> of the whole. For me, they simply help direct where to look deeper. A > >> list like the above would make things simpler, faster. > >> > >> > >> We all know that finding modules to use with Drupal is a difficult task, > >> one with real consequences. There are no easy answers yet. It's a task > >> that turns some first time users away from Drupal and continues to > >> frustrate some current Drupal practitioners. It's especially frustrating > >> when trying to convince others in your organization (like the IT > >> department) to go with Drupal; they start to delve into it and get lost > >> in what can be done practically and securely via Drupal. It's a great > >> development design but difficult in practice. > >> > >> > >> - John > >> > >> ************************************************** > >> John Callahan > >> Geospatial Application Developer > >> Delaware Geological Survey, University of Delaware > >> 227 Academy St, Newark DE 19716-7501 > >> Tel: (302) 831-3584 > >> Email: john.callahan at udel.edu > >> http://www.dgs.udel.edu > >> ************************************************** > >> > >> Justin Gruenberg wrote: > >> > >>> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 8:20 AM, John Callahan > >>> > > wrote: > > > >>>> 1) batch upload, even if only one directory > >>>> > >>> http://drupal.org/project/image_fupload > >>> > >>> That module provides a pretty nice way for you to upload images. > >>> Probably not 11k at a time nice, but it does work well and does allow > >>> you to fiddle with some attributes per image when you upload. It > >>> works with ImageField (CCK) and image.module. > >>> > >>> If you go the image.module route, theres some other batch upload > >>> modules that can work with a directory on the server. > >>> > >>> > >>>> 2) reading EXIF/IPTC image metadata and mapping them to taxonomy terms > >>>> and/or CCK fields. 3) syncing attributes (i.e., edits to raw image > >>>> EXIF/IPTC can update/reimport the node fields/tags and edits to node > >>>> fields/tags can update the EXIF/IPTC metadata.) > >>>> > >>> I haven't done anything this complex with image galleries, but I can > >>> say... expect to do a good amount of fiddling and possibly writing > >>> some custom code to get what you want. > >>> > >>> > >>>> I'm using Gallery2 right now (http://gallery.menalto.com/, > >>>> http://drupal.org/project/gallery) and it does some (item #1 and > >>>> partially #2) of what I need. It even integrates nicely with Drupal for > >>>> users and display of images and albums. However, I use Drupal for many > >>>> other sites (and I'd like to use views, lightbox, tags, etc...) and > >>>> wondering if I can bypass Gallery altogether. Any thoughts or > >>>> experiences out there? Thanks. > >>>> > >>> I'd say if gallery2 works for you, stay with it. That's a package > >>> thats built for hosting images. If you're not afraid of getting your > >>> hands dirty, drupal might meet your needs closer. > >>> -- > >>> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > >>> > > > > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] From justin.gruenberg at gmail.com Wed May 6 07:07:03 2009 From: justin.gruenberg at gmail.com (Justin Gruenberg) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 02:07:03 -0500 Subject: [support] how to theme a non node content ? In-Reply-To: <4A00B944.6020902@ziobudda.net> References: <4A00B944.6020902@ziobudda.net> Message-ID: <96cd751f0905060007l5e894315p7a17140d62cbf09b@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Davide Michel 'ZioBudda' Morelli wrote: > Hi all. I need to theme the forward module content. The module can be themed > but only via page-forward.tpl.php, but I don't want to duplicate the > page.tpl.php file. I want (if possibile) that Drupal use > "my-theme_file.tpl.php" for this content. > There is way to theme a not node content ? > > M. You can't choose arbitrary names for templates. I've never used the forward module, so I can't offer any specific advice on it. You might want to try the Devel module. The theme developer module it includes will give you some hints on each part of your page that can be themed, what provides the current theme, and candidate names for overriding theme files and theme functions in template.php. From simpsonetti at googlemail.com Wed May 6 13:50:59 2009 From: simpsonetti at googlemail.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Sebastian_G=F6decke?=) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 15:50:59 +0200 Subject: [support] memcache, ad Message-ID: <71145448.20090506155059@googlemail.com> Hi, I'm using D5.17 , memcache 1.1.2 and advertisement. I have some groups they were shown on left side, right side and content. When i'm running this with "no cache" option this is working, but it seems to be not fast as it could be. If i switch to "file caching" there will be nothing to see. All blocks are gone. So first question is: Why ? Second: When i'm switching to "memcache" (and it is running, i tested it with a script) then sometimes it is there, but after a reload of the page the blocks were gone too. Why ? An in most of cases when memcache is used, there will only be shown left side and right side . Content won't be shown. Are there any hints for me to solve this problem ? If i want to see "memcache status" in Drupal, i get an error: warning: MemcachePool::getextendedstats(): Invalid stats type in /srv/www/vhosts/xxxxxxxxxxxxx.de/httpdocs/cms/modules/memcache/dmemcache.inc on line 127. No available statistics for this bin. Regards Sebastian -- Mit freundlichen Gr??en Sebastian G?decke mailto:simpsonetti at googlemail.com From simpsonetti at googlemail.com Wed May 6 14:00:20 2009 From: simpsonetti at googlemail.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Sebastian_G=F6decke?=) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 16:00:20 +0200 Subject: [support] memcache, ad In-Reply-To: <71145448.20090506155059@googlemail.com> References: <71145448.20090506155059@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <14510638923.20090506160020@googlemail.com> Guten Tag Sebastian G?decke, am Mittwoch, 6. Mai 2009 um 15:50 schrieben Sie: > Hi, > I'm using D5.17 , memcache 1.1.2 and advertisement. > I have some groups they were shown on left side, right side and > content. When i'm running this with "no cache" option this is working, > but it seems to be not fast as it could be. > If i switch to "file caching" there will be nothing to see. All blocks > are gone. > So first question is: Why ? > Second: > When i'm switching to "memcache" (and it is running, i tested it with a > script) then sometimes it is there, but after a reload of the page the > blocks were gone too. > Why ? > An in most of cases when memcache is used, there will only be shown > left side and right side . Content won't be shown. > Are there any hints for me to solve this problem ? > If i want to see "memcache status" in Drupal, i get an error: > warning: MemcachePool::getextendedstats(): Invalid stats type in > /srv/www/vhosts/xxxxxxxxxxxxx.de/httpdocs/cms/modules/memcache/dmemcache.inc on line 127. > No available statistics for this bin. > Regards Sebastian here is the last errorlog entry: [Wed May 06 15:58:13 2009] [error] [client 79.198.47.237] PHP Notice: Undefined offset: 0 in /srv/www/vhosts/xxxxxxxx.de/httpdocs/cms/modules/ad/adserve.inc on line 562, referer: http://www.xxxxxxxxxxx.de/cms/ -- Mit freundlichen Gr??en Sebastian G?decke mailto:simpsonetti at googlemail.com From michel at ziobuddalabs.it Wed May 6 15:36:48 2009 From: michel at ziobuddalabs.it (Michel Morelli) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 17:36:48 +0200 Subject: [support] how to theme a non node content ? In-Reply-To: <96cd751f0905060007l5e894315p7a17140d62cbf09b@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A00B944.6020902@ziobudda.net> <96cd751f0905060007l5e894315p7a17140d62cbf09b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A01AE90.9060108@ziobuddalabs.it> Justin Gruenberg ha scritto: > You can't choose arbitrary names for templates. I've never used the > forward module, so I can't offer any specific advice on it. You might > want to try the Devel module. The theme developer module it includes > will give you some hints on each part of your page that can be themed, > what provides the current theme, and candidate names for overriding > theme files and theme functions in template.php. > I'm using it (great module and submodules). But Theme developer module say me that the only file that I can modify is "page-forward.tpl.php". I want to use page.tpl.php file for the "container" and theming the content that arrive from forward module. M. PS: sorry for bad english. -- Michel 'ZioBudda' Morelli michel at ziobuddalabs.net Consulenza sistemistica in ambito OpenSource. Sviluppo applicazioni web dinamiche (LAMP+Ajax) Telefono: 0200619074 Telefono Cell: +39-3939890025 -- Fax: +39-0291390660 http://www.ziobudda.net ICQ: 58351764 http://www.ziobuddalabs.it Skype: zio_budda http://www.ziodrupal.net MSN: michel at ziobuddalabs.it JABBER: michel at ziobuddalabs.it From hans.rossel at koba.be Wed May 6 15:53:13 2009 From: hans.rossel at koba.be (KOBA | Hans Rossel) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 17:53:13 +0200 Subject: [support] how to theme a non node content ? In-Reply-To: <4A01AE90.9060108@ziobuddalabs.it> References: <4A00B944.6020902@ziobudda.net> <96cd751f0905060007l5e894315p7a17140d62cbf09b@mail.gmail.com> <4A01AE90.9060108@ziobuddalabs.it> Message-ID: <51a9b8330905060853v2022ca8bpcd04edde65ad8154@mail.gmail.com> You have to check if there is a tpl.php file in modules/forward, if so copy, put in your theme folder and change there. If not open forward.module and search for theme_... Functions. Copy the ones you want to change into template.php and replace theme by phptemplate. This is actually the basics of Drupal theming, its nicely described in the d6 theming handbook. Hans 2009/5/6, Michel Morelli : > Justin Gruenberg ha scritto: >> You can't choose arbitrary names for templates. I've never used the >> forward module, so I can't offer any specific advice on it. You might >> want to try the Devel module. The theme developer module it includes >> will give you some hints on each part of your page that can be themed, >> what provides the current theme, and candidate names for overriding >> theme files and theme functions in template.php. >> > I'm using it (great module and submodules). But Theme developer module > say me that the only file that I can modify is "page-forward.tpl.php". > I want to use page.tpl.php file for the "container" and theming the > content that arrive from forward module. > > M. > > PS: sorry for bad english. > > -- > Michel 'ZioBudda' Morelli michel at ziobuddalabs.net > Consulenza sistemistica in ambito OpenSource. > Sviluppo applicazioni web dinamiche (LAMP+Ajax) > Telefono: 0200619074 > Telefono Cell: +39-3939890025 -- Fax: +39-0291390660 > > http://www.ziobudda.net ICQ: 58351764 > http://www.ziobuddalabs.it Skype: zio_budda > http://www.ziodrupal.net MSN: michel at ziobuddalabs.it > > JABBER: michel at ziobuddalabs.it > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -- Hans Rossel KOBA Webdevelopment Kerkstraat 228 9050 Gent 09-334.52.60 0472-79.32.16 www.koba.be info at koba.be From rotsen at gmail.com Wed May 6 17:44:35 2009 From: rotsen at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?B?TulzdG9y?=) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 10:44:35 -0700 Subject: [support] Is drupal down Message-ID: I am trying to access drupal.org and I get network time out. Is it drupal or my network? I can get to goolge and yahoo and other sites. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From websweetweb at gmail.com Wed May 6 17:48:18 2009 From: websweetweb at gmail.com (Raja Sekharan) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 23:18:18 +0530 Subject: [support] Is drupal down In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1241632098.18238.0.camel@Xecutionr> Works Now. Raj On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 10:44 -0700, N?stor wrote: > I am trying to access drupal.org and I get network time out. > Is it drupal or my network? > I can get to goolge and yahoo and other sites. > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] From fb at codicelibero.net Wed May 6 20:01:59 2009 From: fb at codicelibero.net (Francesco Baldini) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 22:01:59 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [support] Views, list nodes without comments only Message-ID: Is there a way to let Views2 let me list a certain content type without comments only? I need to list a custom content type nodes, but I don't want show those which are commented by someone, a sort of "list content and avoid those commented".. any idea? thanks From cjester at peladon.com Wed May 6 20:15:49 2009 From: cjester at peladon.com (Carl Jester) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 15:15:49 -0500 Subject: [support] Views, list nodes without comments only In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0345A061-21A1-48E2-BC78-BA3AC402D90E@peladon.com> On May 6, 2009, at 3:01 PM, Francesco Baldini wrote: > Is there a way to let Views2 let me list a certain content type > without > comments only? > > I need to list a custom content type nodes, but I don't want show > those > which are commented by someone, a sort of "list content and avoid > those > commented".. Perhaps add a filter for comment id where id < 0? -Carl From fb at codicelibero.net Wed May 6 22:34:35 2009 From: fb at codicelibero.net (Francesco Baldini) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 00:34:35 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [support] Views, list nodes without comments only In-Reply-To: <0345A061-21A1-48E2-BC78-BA3AC402D90E@peladon.com> References: <0345A061-21A1-48E2-BC78-BA3AC402D90E@peladon.com> Message-ID: <7bf90e7f0c926b4d6f72bec55b980688.squirrel@webmail.codicelibero.net> On Mer, 6 Maggio 2009 10:15 pm, Carl Jester wrote: > > On May 6, 2009, at 3:01 PM, Francesco Baldini wrote: > >> Is there a way to let Views2 let me list a certain content type >> without >> comments only? >> >> I need to list a custom content type nodes, but I don't want show >> those >> which are commented by someone, a sort of "list content and avoid >> those >> commented".. > > > Perhaps add a filter for comment id where id < 0? already did it, but it doesn't work.. From entuland at gmail.com Thu May 7 00:33:01 2009 From: entuland at gmail.com (Francesco) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 02:33:01 +0200 Subject: [support] Unable to keep logged in to some sites when behind a proxy Message-ID: <5803c9860905061733w1b52fe9chf48d3411fc514ec5@mail.gmail.com> Hi everybody, sorry if I'm submitting this twice but the first time I wasn't subscribed to the list yet, and since my message didn't show up on the archives, maybe nobody received it actually. Please let me know if someone has already experienced such problems, eventually giving me some pointer about the solution - assuming there is any (I'm forwarding my message here below, please have a read). By the way, I tried searching the previous postings with the link http://lists.drupal.org/drupal-support/swish.cgi?idxname=drupal-support as reported on http://lists.drupal.org/listinfo/support but I got a 404 response. Thanks for your patience, I'm quoting my message here below. Have fun, Francesco ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Francesco Date: 2009/5/5 Subject: Unable to login at drupal.org To: support at drupal.org Hi everybody, my name is Francesco, I'm new here so first of all let me thank you very much for your dedication - to all the creators, developers and community - Drupal is fantastic and the online resources are invaluable. I've been using Drupal for some time now, both locally and installing it on some websites, and everything has gone fine so far. But now I'm experiencing some problems logging in to some sites, one of which is drupal.org. The creation of the new account completed successfully, but when I try to log in, it simply pulls me out without giving me any warning. If I try to login with wrong credentials then I receive a "wrong usename/password" error. Some details: - I connect to the Internet with an ISP that forces me behind a proxy, limiting me to use http/https on port nr. 80. - I've published two Drupal 6.10 installations on different hosts, and I happen to experience such problems only on one of them: frasic.altervista.org - works perfectly toscana-offerte.com/drupal - accepts the login but keeps me logged out, just like drupal.org - I am able to log into the websites with another connection (one that doesn't force me behind a proxy). Once I'm logged in, I can disconnect (keeping the browser open), connect again with the proxy connection and continue surfing without being thrown out. The thing that hassles me is that on frasic.altervista.org I'm experiencing no problems at all. I have no clue, any suggestion or pointer will be really welcome. I hope this was the right place to ask for help about this issue. I'd have some more questions I'd like to submit to the community, and my idea was to post them on the drupal.org forum, but as you know by now, I cannot easily use it. Just to let you know, to get around this connection problem with the trick mentioned above (login - change connection - continue surfing) I'd have to subscribe another Internet connection but I currently can not afford it (the experiment was made with a friend's connection). Please let me know if I can submit those issues here in the mailing list - that's no bug report or feature request, it's about making some context-aware sidebar boxes (unfortunately I wasn't able to find a solution in the existing threads, although there are many which cover the "context-aware sidebar content" and "pass variables to box content" topics) Thank you very much for your attention, feel free to ask in case you are interested in this issue and need further details to investigate it. Wish you all the best, have fun, Francesco entuland at gmail.com From cjester at peladon.com Thu May 7 02:36:46 2009 From: cjester at peladon.com (Carl Jester) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 21:36:46 -0500 Subject: [support] Views, list nodes without comments only In-Reply-To: <7bf90e7f0c926b4d6f72bec55b980688.squirrel@webmail.codicelibero.net> References: <0345A061-21A1-48E2-BC78-BA3AC402D90E@peladon.com> <7bf90e7f0c926b4d6f72bec55b980688.squirrel@webmail.codicelibero.net> Message-ID: On May 6, 2009, at 5:34 PM, Francesco Baldini wrote: > On Mer, 6 Maggio 2009 10:15 pm, Carl Jester wrote: >> >> On May 6, 2009, at 3:01 PM, Francesco Baldini wrote: >> >>> Is there a way to let Views2 let me list a certain content type >>> without >>> comments only? >>> >>> I need to list a custom content type nodes, but I don't want show >>> those >>> which are commented by someone, a sort of "list content and avoid >>> those >>> commented".. >> >> >> Perhaps add a filter for comment id where id < 0? > > already did it, but it doesn't work.. OK, that was a quick guess. I just had a couple minutes to take a closer look at the available options and found "Node: Comment count" in the list of available filters. That's working for me. And of course, if you just want a specific CCK type, you use "Node type = ___". -Carl From maiasaura at gmx.net Thu May 7 06:15:39 2009 From: maiasaura at gmx.net (Annet de Boer) Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 08:15:39 +0200 Subject: [support] navigating through Drupal modules In-Reply-To: <4A011044.8020501@udel.edu> References: <49FEEBA5.5050200@udel.edu> <96cd751f0905050031n440bb304t342bd682e21919f0@mail.gmail.com> <4A0065BE.30306@udel.edu> <200905052202.21972.larry@garfieldtech.com> <4A011044.8020501@udel.edu> Message-ID: <4A027C8B.9050204@gmx.net> Well actually I found the test site you made very usefull at first sight! If there are too many modules to keep it on one page, there's a possibility to make your visitors do a first selection to narrow down the number of results, right? It's not an "all or nothing" case here. I like the fact that you can see in just one line what the main target of the module is. And the "Most popular" and "Most downloaded" tags (which are used in most websites) are a bit obscene since they only make the most popular more popular.. I was actually waiting to find a site which would handle the information more like you did in your testsite. So, don't let them stop ya ;) Regards, Annet John Callahan schreef: > Thanks Larry. Had a feeling that was the case. I've seen some Exhibit > based sites perform OK with 800 - 1000 items and hoped that would fit > here. 4500+ and growing is definitely out of range. > I do like the Apache Solr faceted search much better than when d.o was > at D5. More metadata about projects would help. Possibly less > information returned per project to make it easier to scan. Searching > through all of the modules and finding the ones you need is a problem > that I hope gets easier, especially for those new to Drupal. I'm > looking forward to the new design and trying it out. > - John > > > > Larry Garfield wrote: >> No we can't. There are over 4500 modules. A page listing all modules >> and providing anything even resembling useful data would be several >> megabytes in size just to view, to say nothing of the processing >> costs. We used to have pages like that. They didn't scale. :-) >> >> The in-progress site redesign includes much more metadata on projects >> and ways to search projects, in addition to the new solr faceted >> search that was added recently. Searching large data sets is not an >> easy problem. But simply dumping the entire dataset to the page is >> not a solution at 4500 modules, and it certainly won't be a solution >> as the number of modules continues to rise. >> >> On Tuesday 05 May 2009 11:13:50 am John Callahan wrote: >> >>> Yet another potentially extremely useful module I didn't even know >>> existed! >>> >>> Can I make suggestion? Can we have a simple, one-page listing of all >>> Drupal modules, with appropriate tags, to allow for easy navigation and >>> visualization? Users can sort the list as they want. With a few >>> additional tags/facets (like core version supported, date, author, >>> etc..), imagine how fast you can find what's available and start digging >>> further. >>> >>> Here is a test I quickly put together for a subset of modules: >>> http://geo42.com/sites/drupal-modules.html >>> >>> >>> IMO, an automated list like this one is more helpful than any rating >>> system (almost always fraught with problems) or the current d.o module >>> lists (page-based, too much information, hard to quickly navigate.) >>> Ratings systems, blog posts, projects like drupaltoughlove.com, usage >>> statistics, etc..., are all great but only should be considered as part >>> of the whole. For me, they simply help direct where to look deeper. A >>> list like the above would make things simpler, faster. >>> >>> >>> We all know that finding modules to use with Drupal is a difficult task, >>> one with real consequences. There are no easy answers yet. It's a task >>> that turns some first time users away from Drupal and continues to >>> frustrate some current Drupal practitioners. It's especially frustrating >>> when trying to convince others in your organization (like the IT >>> department) to go with Drupal; they start to delve into it and get lost >>> in what can be done practically and securely via Drupal. It's a great >>> development design but difficult in practice. >>> >>> >>> - John >>> >>> ************************************************** >>> John Callahan >>> Geospatial Application Developer >>> Delaware Geological Survey, University of Delaware >>> 227 Academy St, Newark DE 19716-7501 >>> Tel: (302) 831-3584 >>> Email: john.callahan at udel.edu >>> http://www.dgs.udel.edu >>> ************************************************** >>> >>> Justin Gruenberg wrote: >>> >>>> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 8:20 AM, John Callahan >>>> >> wrote: >> >>>>> 1) batch upload, even if only one directory >>>>> >>>> http://drupal.org/project/image_fupload >>>> >>>> That module provides a pretty nice way for you to upload images. >>>> Probably not 11k at a time nice, but it does work well and does allow >>>> you to fiddle with some attributes per image when you upload. It >>>> works with ImageField (CCK) and image.module. >>>> >>>> If you go the image.module route, theres some other batch upload >>>> modules that can work with a directory on the server. >>>> >>>> >>>>> 2) reading EXIF/IPTC image metadata and mapping them to taxonomy terms >>>>> and/or CCK fields. 3) syncing attributes (i.e., edits to raw image >>>>> EXIF/IPTC can update/reimport the node fields/tags and edits to node >>>>> fields/tags can update the EXIF/IPTC metadata.) >>>>> >>>> I haven't done anything this complex with image galleries, but I can >>>> say... expect to do a good amount of fiddling and possibly writing >>>> some custom code to get what you want. >>>> >>>> >>>>> I'm using Gallery2 right now (http://gallery.menalto.com/, >>>>> http://drupal.org/project/gallery) and it does some (item #1 and >>>>> partially #2) of what I need. It even integrates nicely with >>>>> Drupal for >>>>> users and display of images and albums. However, I use Drupal for >>>>> many >>>>> other sites (and I'd like to use views, lightbox, tags, etc...) and >>>>> wondering if I can bypass Gallery altogether. Any thoughts or >>>>> experiences out there? Thanks. >>>>> >>>> I'd say if gallery2 works for you, stay with it. That's a package >>>> thats built for hosting images. If you're not afraid of getting your >>>> hands dirty, drupal might meet your needs closer. >>>> -- >>>> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >>>> >> >> > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.325 / Virus Database: 270.12.18/2096 - Release Date: 05/04/09 17:51:00 > From maiasaura at gmx.net Thu May 7 06:32:20 2009 From: maiasaura at gmx.net (Annet de Boer) Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 08:32:20 +0200 Subject: [support] Unable to keep logged in to some sites when behind a proxy In-Reply-To: <5803c9860905061733w1b52fe9chf48d3411fc514ec5@mail.gmail.com> References: <5803c9860905061733w1b52fe9chf48d3411fc514ec5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A028074.4080608@gmx.net> Ciao Francesco, This sounds like a cookie problem, could that be the case? When you connect and succesfully login, and lateron use your proxy connection you have no problem since the cookie is stored already (and still valid). Regards, Annet Francesco schreef: > - I've published two Drupal 6.10 installations on different hosts, and > I happen to experience such problems only on one of them: > frasic.altervista.org - works perfectly > toscana-offerte.com/drupal - accepts the login but keeps me logged > out, just like drupal.org > > - I am able to log into the websites with another connection (one that > doesn't force me behind a proxy). Once I'm logged in, I can disconnect > (keeping the browser open), connect again with the proxy connection > and continue surfing without being thrown out. > > The thing that hassles me is that on frasic.altervista.org I'm > experiencing no problems at all. > I have no clue, any suggestion or pointer will be really welcome. From fb at codicelibero.net Thu May 7 08:36:15 2009 From: fb at codicelibero.net (Francesco Baldini) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 10:36:15 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [support] Views, list nodes without comments only In-Reply-To: References: <0345A061-21A1-48E2-BC78-BA3AC402D90E@peladon.com> <7bf90e7f0c926b4d6f72bec55b980688.squirrel@webmail.codicelibero.net> Message-ID: <645335f25be581b2d00d1b29e235bcb0.squirrel@webmail.codicelibero.net> On Gio, 7 Maggio 2009 4:36 am, Carl Jester wrote: > OK, that was a quick guess. I just had a couple minutes to take a > closer look at the available options and found "Node: Comment count" > in the list of available filters. That's working for me. And of > course, if you just want a specific CCK type, you use "Node type = ___". it works! thanks :) From entuland at gmail.com Thu May 7 11:43:21 2009 From: entuland at gmail.com (Francesco) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 13:43:21 +0200 Subject: [support] Unable to keep logged in to some sites when behind a proxy In-Reply-To: <4A028074.4080608@gmx.net> References: <5803c9860905061733w1b52fe9chf48d3411fc514ec5@mail.gmail.com> <4A028074.4080608@gmx.net> Message-ID: <5803c9860905070443v7f7266ak5871d0bbd67f9d05@mail.gmail.com> 2009/5/7 Annet de Boer : > Ciao Francesco, > > This sounds like a cookie problem, could that be the case? > When you connect and succesfully login, and lateron use your proxy > connection you have no problem since the cookie is stored already (and still > valid). > > Regards, > Annet > Ciao Annet, yes, it really sounds like a cookie problem, and something really strange is happening - at least that's strange for me... After your comments I've decided to do some tests to check when and which cookies get set logging on the two sites (the working one and the one that throws me out). Here are the results: on frasic.altervista.org (and on other drupal installations on the same server): - I can log in with the proxy connection, no cookie gets set, I keep logged in; - I switch to the no-proxy connection without logging out and I get thrown out; - I log in with the no-proxy connection, a session cookie gets set, I keep logged in; - I switch to the proxy connection without logging out and I get thrown out; - I am not able to log in any more with the proxy connection if I don't delete the session cookie. Once deleted, I can log in again and keep logged in as usual. on drupal.org or on toscana-offerte.com/drupal: - I can log in with the no-proxy connection, a session cookie gets set and I keep logged in. - I can switch to the proxy connection and keep logged in, but if I delete the session cookie I get thrown out again Well, for the poor knowledge I have about all this stuff, I think that the drupal.org behavior is the right one... The fact that I can keep logged in with no session cookie set on my PC frightens me... where does Drupal get the authentication from, when I'm browsing frasic.altervista.org while behind the proxy? Does my session cookie get saved on the proxy server? I feel a bit uncomfortable after those tests... I look forward for your advice. Thank you all for your attention, best regards, Francesco From earnie at users.sourceforge.net Thu May 7 12:25:00 2009 From: earnie at users.sourceforge.net (Earnie Boyd) Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 12:25:00 +0000 Subject: [support] navigating through Drupal modules In-Reply-To: <4A027C8B.9050204@gmx.net> References: <49FEEBA5.5050200@udel.edu> <96cd751f0905050031n440bb304t342bd682e21919f0@mail.gmail.com> <4A0065BE.30306@udel.edu> <200905052202.21972.larry@garfieldtech.com> <4A011044.8020501@udel.edu> <4A027C8B.9050204@gmx.net> Message-ID: <20090507122500.28005fq4sv79pd0k@mail.siebunlimited.com> I really miss the one page all modules list. An index page of all modules with a link and description would be useful to do a "search in page" for possible modules to use. -- Earnie -- http://r-feed.com/ -- http://for-my-kids.com/ -- http://www.4offer.biz/ -- http://give-me-an-offer.com/ From hovercrafter at earthlink.net Thu May 7 12:51:13 2009 From: hovercrafter at earthlink.net (Jamie Holly) Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 08:51:13 -0400 Subject: [support] navigating through Drupal modules In-Reply-To: <20090507122500.28005fq4sv79pd0k@mail.siebunlimited.com> References: <49FEEBA5.5050200@udel.edu> <96cd751f0905050031n440bb304t342bd682e21919f0@mail.gmail.com> <4A0065BE.30306@udel.edu> <200905052202.21972.larry@garfieldtech.com> <4A011044.8020501@udel.edu> <4A027C8B.9050204@gmx.net> <20090507122500.28005fq4sv79pd0k@mail.siebunlimited.com> Message-ID: <4A02D941.7050609@earthlink.net> Earnie Boyd wrote: > I really miss the one page all modules list. An index page of all > modules with a link and description would be useful to do a "search in > page" for possible modules to use. > > I second that. Much easier to have one big page and then use the browser's find function. From drupallist at dirtsimple.net Thu May 7 13:11:33 2009 From: drupallist at dirtsimple.net (Cosmo) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 09:11:33 -0400 Subject: [support] navigating through Drupal modules In-Reply-To: <4A027C8B.9050204@gmx.net> Message-ID: This is an amazing presentation of modules. Here's a few suggestions if you don't mind. 1) I think one of the right nav boxes should contain the entire list of modules because one feature you offer is (if I could quickly narrow the group to a select list of modules) the dependencies. 2) I think you can tell a great deal about a module based on it's number of downloads, latest revision date, number of issues posted about the module, last date of that issue and whether (or when) the last issue was closed. Your presentation method would take module discovery to a new level. The only other thing I would ask is for someone to offer a place where module users (like myself) could go to, relative to a specific module, and post how the module was used by me. What I achieved and how I did it. It would create be a self documenting project area of sorts. -----Original Message----- From: support-bounces at drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces at drupal.org]On Behalf Of Annet de Boer Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 1:16 AM To: support at drupal.org Subject: Re: [support] navigating through Drupal modules Well actually I found the test site you made very usefull at first sight! If there are too many modules to keep it on one page, there's a possibility to make your visitors do a first selection to narrow down the number of results, right? It's not an "all or nothing" case here. I like the fact that you can see in just one line what the main target of the module is. And the "Most popular" and "Most downloaded" tags (which are used in most websites) are a bit obscene since they only make the most popular more popular.. I was actually waiting to find a site which would handle the information more like you did in your testsite. So, don't let them stop ya ;) Regards, Annet John Callahan schreef: > Thanks Larry. Had a feeling that was the case. I've seen some Exhibit > based sites perform OK with 800 - 1000 items and hoped that would fit > here. 4500+ and growing is definitely out of range. > I do like the Apache Solr faceted search much better than when d.o was > at D5. More metadata about projects would help. Possibly less > information returned per project to make it easier to scan. Searching > through all of the modules and finding the ones you need is a problem > that I hope gets easier, especially for those new to Drupal. I'm > looking forward to the new design and trying it out. > - John > > > > Larry Garfield wrote: >> No we can't. There are over 4500 modules. A page listing all modules >> and providing anything even resembling useful data would be several >> megabytes in size just to view, to say nothing of the processing >> costs. We used to have pages like that. They didn't scale. :-) >> >> The in-progress site redesign includes much more metadata on projects >> and ways to search projects, in addition to the new solr faceted >> search that was added recently. Searching large data sets is not an >> easy problem. But simply dumping the entire dataset to the page is >> not a solution at 4500 modules, and it certainly won't be a solution >> as the number of modules continues to rise. >> >> On Tuesday 05 May 2009 11:13:50 am John Callahan wrote: >> >>> Yet another potentially extremely useful module I didn't even know >>> existed! >>> >>> Can I make suggestion? Can we have a simple, one-page listing of all >>> Drupal modules, with appropriate tags, to allow for easy navigation and >>> visualization? Users can sort the list as they want. With a few >>> additional tags/facets (like core version supported, date, author, >>> etc..), imagine how fast you can find what's available and start digging >>> further. >>> >>> Here is a test I quickly put together for a subset of modules: >>> http://geo42.com/sites/drupal-modules.html >>> >>> >>> IMO, an automated list like this one is more helpful than any rating >>> system (almost always fraught with problems) or the current d.o module >>> lists (page-based, too much information, hard to quickly navigate.) >>> Ratings systems, blog posts, projects like drupaltoughlove.com, usage >>> statistics, etc..., are all great but only should be considered as part >>> of the whole. For me, they simply help direct where to look deeper. A >>> list like the above would make things simpler, faster. >>> >>> >>> We all know that finding modules to use with Drupal is a difficult task, >>> one with real consequences. There are no easy answers yet. It's a task >>> that turns some first time users away from Drupal and continues to >>> frustrate some current Drupal practitioners. It's especially frustrating >>> when trying to convince others in your organization (like the IT >>> department) to go with Drupal; they start to delve into it and get lost >>> in what can be done practically and securely via Drupal. It's a great >>> development design but difficult in practice. >>> >>> >>> - John >>> >>> ************************************************** >>> John Callahan >>> Geospatial Application Developer >>> Delaware Geological Survey, University of Delaware >>> 227 Academy St, Newark DE 19716-7501 >>> Tel: (302) 831-3584 >>> Email: john.callahan at udel.edu >>> http://www.dgs.udel.edu >>> ************************************************** >>> >>> Justin Gruenberg wrote: >>> >>>> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 8:20 AM, John Callahan >>>> >> wrote: >> >>>>> 1) batch upload, even if only one directory >>>>> >>>> http://drupal.org/project/image_fupload >>>> >>>> That module provides a pretty nice way for you to upload images. >>>> Probably not 11k at a time nice, but it does work well and does allow >>>> you to fiddle with some attributes per image when you upload. It >>>> works with ImageField (CCK) and image.module. >>>> >>>> If you go the image.module route, theres some other batch upload >>>> modules that can work with a directory on the server. >>>> >>>> >>>>> 2) reading EXIF/IPTC image metadata and mapping them to taxonomy terms >>>>> and/or CCK fields. 3) syncing attributes (i.e., edits to raw image >>>>> EXIF/IPTC can update/reimport the node fields/tags and edits to node >>>>> fields/tags can update the EXIF/IPTC metadata.) >>>>> >>>> I haven't done anything this complex with image galleries, but I can >>>> say... expect to do a good amount of fiddling and possibly writing >>>> some custom code to get what you want. >>>> >>>> >>>>> I'm using Gallery2 right now (http://gallery.menalto.com/, >>>>> http://drupal.org/project/gallery) and it does some (item #1 and >>>>> partially #2) of what I need. It even integrates nicely with >>>>> Drupal for >>>>> users and display of images and albums. However, I use Drupal for >>>>> many >>>>> other sites (and I'd like to use views, lightbox, tags, etc...) and >>>>> wondering if I can bypass Gallery altogether. Any thoughts or >>>>> experiences out there? Thanks. >>>>> >>>> I'd say if gallery2 works for you, stay with it. That's a package >>>> thats built for hosting images. If you're not afraid of getting your >>>> hands dirty, drupal might meet your needs closer. >>>> -- >>>> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >>>> >> >> > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.325 / Virus Database: 270.12.18/2096 - Release Date: 05/04/09 17:51:00 > -- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] From fb at codicelibero.net Thu May 7 16:48:35 2009 From: fb at codicelibero.net (Francesco Baldini) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 18:48:35 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [support] Recent comments by current user visible by current user Message-ID: <3900dbb40fb47a3061f16a8cb5c8df7c.squirrel@webmail.codicelibero.net> I need to create a page where, once logged, are able to see the list of his/her own comments. I already created a recent-comments (Views2) page, in this page every user can see all recent comments, now I have to limit this view to logged user: while user X wrote 12 comments and user Y just 5, then user X can see domain.com/recent-comments with her 12 comments and user Y his own 5 on the same page. I tried to add a new filter (Node) User: Current Yes but page show all comments, while with (Node) User: Current No everything disappear. here's my Views2 code: http://drupal.org/node/456494 thanks From simone.dalmaso at juvox.it Thu May 7 20:39:25 2009 From: simone.dalmaso at juvox.it (Simone Dal Maso) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 22:39:25 +0200 Subject: [support] problem with tmp folder and permission Message-ID: <8B3DA91D74E94EED9AF694819101A857@data> Hi, I don't know how to solve this. In my drupal installation directory I have a folder called "tmp". I receive an error by drupal, I read it in the log, it says approximately: "can't write to tmp directory, because permissions are not correct". Sorry I'm traslating from italian. The permissions of tmp are 755. If I change to 777 I have no problem, but 777 is unsecure. Is 755 a wrong number for a directory? What should I put instead? thanks. From mail at webthatworks.it Thu May 7 20:58:20 2009 From: mail at webthatworks.it (Ivan Sergio Borgonovo) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 22:58:20 +0200 Subject: [support] problem with tmp folder and permission In-Reply-To: <8B3DA91D74E94EED9AF694819101A857@data> References: <8B3DA91D74E94EED9AF694819101A857@data> Message-ID: <20090507225820.0e85f42f@dawn.webthatworks.it> On Thu, 7 May 2009 22:39:25 +0200 "Simone Dal Maso" wrote: > Hi, > I don't know how to solve this. > In my drupal installation directory I have a folder called "tmp". > I receive an error by drupal, I read it in the log, it says > approximately: "can't write to tmp directory, because permissions > are not correct". Sorry I'm traslating from italian. > The permissions of tmp are 755. > If I change to 777 I have no problem, but 777 is unsecure. 777 is really too much. What about the ownership of the directory? What about the ownership of other files in your base dir? what were the default of your hosting provider? -- Ivan Sergio Borgonovo http://www.webthatworks.it From larry at garfieldtech.com Fri May 8 01:43:34 2009 From: larry at garfieldtech.com (Larry Garfield) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 20:43:34 -0500 Subject: [support] navigating through Drupal modules In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200905072043.34576.larry@garfieldtech.com> I'll say again, any module presentation mechanism has to be able to scale from 5000 modules (we'll be there soon) to 10,000 modules (so we don't have to redesign it again in 2 months.) There has already been an immense amount of work put into designing a revamped project management system for drupal.org, including the hiring of an internationally acclaimed designer, Mark Boulton. (Who has since become a Drupal fan, because we're just that cool.) An upgrade to the site is in progress. See the group below for more. http://groups.drupal.org/drupalorg-redesign-plan-drupal-association On Thursday 07 May 2009 8:11:33 am Cosmo wrote: > This is an amazing presentation of modules. > > Here's a few suggestions if you don't mind. > > 1) I think one of the right nav boxes should contain the entire list of > modules because one feature you offer is (if I could quickly narrow the > group to a select list of modules) the dependencies. > > 2) I think you can tell a great deal about a module based on it's number of > downloads, latest revision date, number of issues posted about the module, > last date of that issue and whether (or when) the last issue was closed. > > Your presentation method would take module discovery to a new level. > > The only other thing I would ask is for someone to offer a place where > module users (like myself) could go to, relative to a specific module, and > post how the module was used by me. What I achieved and how I did it. It > would create be a self documenting project area of sorts. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: support-bounces at drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces at drupal.org]On > Behalf Of Annet de Boer > Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 1:16 AM > To: support at drupal.org > Subject: Re: [support] navigating through Drupal modules > > > Well actually I found the test site you made very usefull at first > sight! If there are too many modules to keep it on one page, there's a > possibility to make your visitors do a first selection to narrow down > the number of results, right? It's not an "all or nothing" case here. > I like the fact that you can see in just one line what the main target > of the module is. And the "Most popular" and "Most downloaded" tags > (which are used in most websites) are a bit obscene since they only make > the most popular more popular.. I was actually waiting to find a site > which would handle the information more like you did in your testsite. > So, don't let them stop ya ;) > > Regards, > Annet > > John Callahan schreef: > > Thanks Larry. Had a feeling that was the case. I've seen some Exhibit > > based sites perform OK with 800 - 1000 items and hoped that would fit > > here. 4500+ and growing is definitely out of range. > > I do like the Apache Solr faceted search much better than when d.o was > > at D5. More metadata about projects would help. Possibly less > > information returned per project to make it easier to scan. Searching > > through all of the modules and finding the ones you need is a problem > > that I hope gets easier, especially for those new to Drupal. I'm > > looking forward to the new design and trying it out. > > - John > > > > Larry Garfield wrote: > >> No we can't. There are over 4500 modules. A page listing all modules > >> and providing anything even resembling useful data would be several > >> megabytes in size just to view, to say nothing of the processing > >> costs. We used to have pages like that. They didn't scale. :-) > >> > >> The in-progress site redesign includes much more metadata on projects > >> and ways to search projects, in addition to the new solr faceted > >> search that was added recently. Searching large data sets is not an > >> easy problem. But simply dumping the entire dataset to the page is > >> not a solution at 4500 modules, and it certainly won't be a solution > >> as the number of modules continues to rise. -- Larry Garfield larry at garfieldtech.com From mail at webthatworks.it Fri May 8 05:52:30 2009 From: mail at webthatworks.it (Ivan Sergio Borgonovo) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 07:52:30 +0200 Subject: [support] excluding pages from cache for anonymous users D5, D6, D7? Message-ID: <20090508075230.31991fb2@dawn.webthatworks.it> I need to exclude pages from cache even for anonymous users. I found cacheexclude module. It just $GLOBALS['conf']['cache'] = FALSE; but it does it in hook_init and it doesn`t set any weight during install. I would like someone confirm my hypothesis. It does it in init... since it has to be called for each request. It doesn`t set any weight because content will be cached once every hook had a chance to fire and header will be sent contextually. So if I just want to switch cache off on a "menu item base" I just have to $GLOBALS['conf']['cache'] = FALSE; in the function callback. right? -- Ivan Sergio Borgonovo http://www.webthatworks.it From larry at garfieldtech.com Fri May 8 06:08:53 2009 From: larry at garfieldtech.com (Larry Garfield) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 01:08:53 -0500 Subject: [support] excluding pages from cache for anonymous users D5, D6, D7? In-Reply-To: <20090508075230.31991fb2@dawn.webthatworks.it> References: <20090508075230.31991fb2@dawn.webthatworks.it> Message-ID: <200905080108.53734.larry@garfieldtech.com> http://drupal.org/project/cacheexclude :-) On Friday 08 May 2009 12:52:30 am Ivan Sergio Borgonovo wrote: > I need to exclude pages from cache even for anonymous users. > I found cacheexclude module. > It just > $GLOBALS['conf']['cache'] = FALSE; > but it does it in hook_init and it doesn`t set any weight during > install. > > I would like someone confirm my hypothesis. > > It does it in init... since it has to be called for each request. > It doesn`t set any weight because content will be cached once every > hook had a chance to fire and header will be sent contextually. > > So if I just want to switch cache off on a "menu item base" I just > have to > $GLOBALS['conf']['cache'] = FALSE; > in the function callback. > > right? -- Larry Garfield larry at garfieldtech.com From doug.duboulay at gmail.com Fri May 8 06:58:14 2009 From: doug.duboulay at gmail.com (Doug) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 16:58:14 +1000 Subject: [support] user_load has no roles for anonymous user? Message-ID: <200905081658.14362.Doug.duBoulay@gmail.com> I am trying to write a module but seem to have screwed something up. I think before someone logs into D6 the user_load() should already have been called and loaded up $user with the "anonymous user" role. But for me, now, it isn't. Any idea what I might have screwed up to cause that? Thanks Doug From mail at webthatworks.it Fri May 8 07:27:32 2009 From: mail at webthatworks.it (Ivan Sergio Borgonovo) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 09:27:32 +0200 Subject: [support] excluding pages from cache for anonymous users D5, D6, D7? In-Reply-To: <200905080108.53734.larry@garfieldtech.com> References: <20090508075230.31991fb2@dawn.webthatworks.it> <200905080108.53734.larry@garfieldtech.com> Message-ID: <20090508092732.20e5167e@dawn.webthatworks.it> On Fri, 8 May 2009 01:08:53 -0500 Larry Garfield wrote: > http://drupal.org/project/cacheexclude > > :-) > > On Friday 08 May 2009 12:52:30 am Ivan Sergio Borgonovo wrote: > > I need to exclude pages from cache even for anonymous users. > > I found cacheexclude module. ^^^^^^^^^^^^ It is Friday for everyone... ;) I was wondering why it is doing it that way so I could replicate the functionality in my code without missing any details. thanks > > It just > > $GLOBALS['conf']['cache'] = FALSE; > > but it does it in hook_init and it doesn`t set any weight during > > install. > > I would like someone confirm my hypothesis. > > It does it in init... since it has to be called for each request. > > It doesn`t set any weight because content will be cached once > > every hook had a chance to fire and header will be sent > > contextually. > > So if I just want to switch cache off on a "menu item base" I > > just have to > > $GLOBALS['conf']['cache'] = FALSE; > > in the function callback. > > right? -- Ivan Sergio Borgonovo http://www.webthatworks.it From simone.dalmaso at juvox.it Fri May 8 07:51:29 2009 From: simone.dalmaso at juvox.it (Simone Dal Maso) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 09:51:29 +0200 Subject: [support] problem with tmp folder and permission References: <8B3DA91D74E94EED9AF694819101A857@data> <20090507225820.0e85f42f@dawn.webthatworks.it> Message-ID: <008301c9cfb1$cd40d930$19c810ac@usppadova> Hi, you wrote: > > 777 is really too much. > What about the ownership of the directory? > > What about the ownership of other files in your base dir? what were > the default of your hosting provider? ah... When I open my ftp client, I have some directories created by my host provider. I must put all drupal files in the "httpdocs" folder. All the directories are created by the same user, but, the root directory like httpdocs has the group psaserv, instead all the subdirectories (tmp, files, modules etc) has psaclnt. so, they become to different group. Should I try asking my provider to change this? thanks! From michel at ziobuddalabs.it Fri May 8 12:08:54 2009 From: michel at ziobuddalabs.it (Michel Morelli) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 14:08:54 +0200 Subject: [support] user_load has no roles for anonymous user? In-Reply-To: <200905081658.14362.Doug.duBoulay@gmail.com> References: <200905081658.14362.Doug.duBoulay@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A0420D6.8010205@ziobuddalabs.it> Doug ha scritto: > I am trying to write a module but seem to have screwed something up. > > I think before someone logs into D6 the user_load() should > already have been called and loaded up $user with the "anonymous user" role. > $user->uid = 0 is the anonymous user. M. -- Michel 'ZioBudda' Morelli michel at ziobuddalabs.net Consulenza sistemistica in ambito OpenSource. Sviluppo applicazioni web dinamiche (LAMP+Ajax) Telefono: 0200619074 Telefono Cell: +39-3939890025 -- Fax: +39-0291390660 http://www.ziobudda.net ICQ: 58351764 http://www.ziobuddalabs.it Skype: zio_budda http://www.ziodrupal.net MSN: michel at ziobuddalabs.it JABBER: michel at ziobuddalabs.it From john_oshea at wordbank.com Fri May 8 13:48:27 2009 From: john_oshea at wordbank.com (john_oshea at wordbank.com) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 14:48:27 +0100 Subject: [support] Exporting content for translation Message-ID: <4A04382B.9010304@wordbank.com> Hi all, I'm wondering if there's any sort of bulk export feature in D6 for the actual content of our sites, in the same way as there is for menus etc. This seems to imply that there isn't, but if anyone is able to point me in the right direction, that'd be great (apologies in advance if this is a heinously newbie question). Thanks, John -- John O'Shea Wordbank Limited 33 Charlotte Street, London W1T 1RR Direct line: +44 (0) 20 7903 8829 Fax: +44 (0) 20 7903 8888 From mail at webthatworks.it Fri May 8 14:36:56 2009 From: mail at webthatworks.it (Ivan Sergio Borgonovo) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 16:36:56 +0200 Subject: [support] Exporting content for translation In-Reply-To: <4A04382B.9010304@wordbank.com> References: <4A04382B.9010304@wordbank.com> Message-ID: <20090508163656.2be2e520@dawn.webthatworks.it> On Fri, 08 May 2009 14:48:27 +0100 john_oshea at wordbank.com wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm wondering if there's any sort of bulk export feature in D6 for > the actual content of our sites, in the same way as there is for > menus etc. > > This seems to imply that there > isn't, but if anyone is able to point me in the right direction, > that'd be great (apologies in advance if this is a heinously > newbie question). If I just could remember what is the standard format for this kind of stuff search would be much easier. I'm not sure if this was a feature of some drupal module or of another unnamed CMS but there should be a module to export exactly what translation companies normally expect. googling a bit... http://groups.drupal.org/node/7372 Maybe there are other modules exporting in other format. Here you can find the list of standard format for translation... maybe further googling can take you somewhere. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Translation_memory#Export -- Ivan Sergio Borgonovo http://www.webthatworks.it From tloud365 at gmail.com Fri May 8 14:39:36 2009 From: tloud365 at gmail.com (T L) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 10:39:36 -0400 Subject: [support] Exporting content for translation In-Reply-To: <4A04382B.9010304@wordbank.com> References: <4A04382B.9010304@wordbank.com> Message-ID: Hey John, Can you clarify if you are looking to export data or if you are trying to translate data as mentioned in the referenced link? Also, maybe a bit about your setup (modules, etc) and aims. Thanks, Tim On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 9:48 AM, wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm wondering if there's any sort of bulk export feature in D6 for the > actual content of our sites, in the same way as there is for menus etc. > > This seems to imply that there isn't, but > if anyone is able to point me in the right direction, that'd be great > (apologies in advance if this is a heinously newbie question). > > > Thanks, > > John > > -- > John O'Shea > Wordbank Limited > 33 Charlotte Street, London W1T 1RR > Direct line: +44 (0) 20 7903 8829 > Fax: +44 (0) 20 7903 8888 > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -- Tim Loudon t: 781.686.6096 e: tloud365 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mail at webthatworks.it Fri May 8 14:46:46 2009 From: mail at webthatworks.it (Ivan Sergio Borgonovo) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 16:46:46 +0200 Subject: [support] Exporting content for translation In-Reply-To: <4A04382B.9010304@wordbank.com> References: <4A04382B.9010304@wordbank.com> Message-ID: <20090508164646.7cfb33c6@dawn.webthatworks.it> On Fri, 08 May 2009 14:48:27 +0100 john_oshea at wordbank.com wrote: Direct pointer: http://drupal.org/project/xliff give a look to the whole section of that module they may be others... This seems promising too http://drupal.org/project/awtw If you find any other keep me informed. I may need such a beast shortly. -- Ivan Sergio Borgonovo http://www.webthatworks.it From john_oshea at wordbank.com Fri May 8 16:33:09 2009 From: john_oshea at wordbank.com (john_oshea at wordbank.com) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 17:33:09 +0100 Subject: [support] Exporting content for translation In-Reply-To: References: <4A04382B.9010304@wordbank.com> Message-ID: <4A045EC5.1030708@wordbank.com> T L wrote: > Hey John, > > Can you clarify if you are looking to export data or if you are trying > to translate data as mentioned in the referenced link? Also, maybe a > bit about your setup (modules, etc) and aims. Hi Tim and Ivan, thanks for your responses, and please excuse the joint reply. The situation we're currently in is that we have a very basic site set up in English only, and are looking to export the content (maybe 50pp of text content), translate it in bulk, and then re-import it back in as French, German etc. The reason we're looking at bulk export/import is that's how we're used to working. We're a localization agency and have a set of filters for taking most export formats, extracting the localizable text into Word format, where our translators can use their translation memory tools and the like. This is our first Drupal setup and we're still exploring what's possible and what isn't, and what the "Drupal ways" of doing things are, so it's not actually critical that we get a solution to the export/import to be honest. I'm going to have a look at the XLIFF Tools module that Ivan's pointed me at, as I suspect that may well do exactly what we want. Thanks (both) for your speedy responses - they're much appreciated. John -- John O'Shea Wordbank Limited 33 Charlotte Street, London W1T 1RR Direct line: +44 (0) 20 7903 8829 Fax: +44 (0) 20 7903 8888 From tloud365 at gmail.com Fri May 8 16:50:28 2009 From: tloud365 at gmail.com (T L) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 12:50:28 -0400 Subject: [support] Exporting content for translation In-Reply-To: <4A045EC5.1030708@wordbank.com> References: <4A04382B.9010304@wordbank.com> <4A045EC5.1030708@wordbank.com> Message-ID: Hey John, np, good luck :). btw, if xliff doesn't work for what you need, maybe try node export. Cheers, Tim On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 12:33 PM, wrote: > T L wrote: > >> Hey John, >> >> Can you clarify if you are looking to export data or if you are trying to >> translate data as mentioned in the referenced link? Also, maybe a bit about >> your setup (modules, etc) and aims. >> > > Hi Tim and Ivan, thanks for your responses, and please excuse the joint > reply. > > The situation we're currently in is that we have a very basic site set up > in English only, and are looking to export the content (maybe 50pp of text > content), translate it in bulk, and then re-import it back in as French, > German etc. > > The reason we're looking at bulk export/import is that's how we're used to > working. We're a localization agency and have a set of filters for taking > most export formats, extracting the localizable text into Word format, where > our translators can use their translation memory tools and the like. > > This is our first Drupal setup and we're still exploring what's possible > and what isn't, and what the "Drupal ways" of doing things are, so it's not > actually critical that we get a solution to the export/import to be honest. > > I'm going to have a look at the XLIFF Tools module that Ivan's pointed me > at, as I suspect that may well do exactly what we want. > > > Thanks (both) for your speedy responses - they're much appreciated. > > > John > > -- > John O'Shea > Wordbank Limited > 33 Charlotte Street, London W1T 1RR > Direct line: +44 (0) 20 7903 8829 > Fax: +44 (0) 20 7903 8888 > > -- Tim Loudon t: 781.686.6096 e: tloud365 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aldo at caonao.cu Fri May 8 16:59:07 2009 From: aldo at caonao.cu (Aldo Martinez Selleras) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 12:59:07 -0400 Subject: [support] how can i edit a node form structure Message-ID: <4A0464DB.90908@caonao.cu> i need to create a totally cutom edit page for one content type... hoy can i do this... and hoy can i create a custom template for a node type form ?? thks in advanced From mail at webthatworks.it Fri May 8 17:30:09 2009 From: mail at webthatworks.it (Ivan Sergio Borgonovo) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 19:30:09 +0200 Subject: [support] Exporting content for translation In-Reply-To: <4A045EC5.1030708@wordbank.com> References: <4A04382B.9010304@wordbank.com> <4A045EC5.1030708@wordbank.com> Message-ID: <20090508193009.58ce97e9@dawn.webthatworks.it> On Fri, 08 May 2009 17:33:09 +0100 john_oshea at wordbank.com wrote: > The reason we're looking at bulk export/import is that's how we're > used to working. We're a localization agency and have a set of > filters for taking most export formats, extracting the localizable > text into Word format, where our translators can use their > translation memory tools and the like. If localisation is your core business I'd advice you to install and test i18n and some related modules. D6 has a very nice localisation/translation support but i18n may make your work-flow and relating content much more flexible and better. Drupal has one of, maybe the best localisation support you could find. -- Ivan Sergio Borgonovo http://www.webthatworks.it From larry at garfieldtech.com Sat May 9 07:08:26 2009 From: larry at garfieldtech.com (Larry Garfield) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 02:08:26 -0500 Subject: [support] excluding pages from cache for anonymous users D5, D6, D7? In-Reply-To: <20090508092732.20e5167e@dawn.webthatworks.it> References: <20090508075230.31991fb2@dawn.webthatworks.it> <200905080108.53734.larry@garfieldtech.com> <20090508092732.20e5167e@dawn.webthatworks.it> Message-ID: <200905090208.26652.larry@garfieldtech.com> On Friday 08 May 2009 2:27:32 am Ivan Sergio Borgonovo wrote: > On Fri, 8 May 2009 01:08:53 -0500 > > Larry Garfield wrote: > > http://drupal.org/project/cacheexclude > > > > :-) > > > > On Friday 08 May 2009 12:52:30 am Ivan Sergio Borgonovo wrote: > > > I need to exclude pages from cache even for anonymous users. > > > I found cacheexclude module. > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > It is Friday for everyone... ;) > > I was wondering why it is doing it that way so I could replicate the > functionality in my code without missing any details. > > thanks ... Sigh. That variable is what controls the "cache this page" logic that happens at the END of the page request. So if a page is already cached, it will still get sent. (That happens before any hooks run.) However, if the page is not cached and that variable is set to false then at the end of the page request it will not be cached, and therefore the next page request will regenerate it again. It's useful mostly for pages that contain dynamic "Randomize on every page view" content. I don't know what "menu item base" means, but yes you can set that variable to false pretty much anywhere and it should behave as described above. CacheExclude is just a simple UI to forcing that value off. -- Larry Garfield larry at garfieldtech.com From john_oshea at wordbank.com Mon May 11 10:35:28 2009 From: john_oshea at wordbank.com (john_oshea at wordbank.com) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 11:35:28 +0100 Subject: [support] Exporting content for translation In-Reply-To: <20090508193009.58ce97e9@dawn.webthatworks.it> References: <4A04382B.9010304@wordbank.com> <4A045EC5.1030708@wordbank.com> <20090508193009.58ce97e9@dawn.webthatworks.it> Message-ID: <4A07FF70.7030309@wordbank.com> Ivan Sergio Borgonovo wrote: > If localisation is your core business I'd advice you to install and > test i18n and some related modules. > D6 has a very nice localisation/translation support but i18n may > make your work-flow and relating content much more flexible > and better. Cool - thanks. > Drupal has one of, maybe the best localisation support you could > find. Yes, based on what I've read, Drupal's support for multiple languages (and multiple workflows) appears to be significantly better than a lot of other CMSs (including quite a few commercial ones). Thanks, John -- John O'Shea Wordbank Limited 33 Charlotte Street, London W1T 1RR Direct line: +44 (0) 20 7903 8829 Fax: +44 (0) 20 7903 8888 From lukio at gcoop.com.ar Mon May 11 16:32:06 2009 From: lukio at gcoop.com.ar (Luciano Rossi) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 13:32:06 -0300 Subject: [support] multiple url alias for the same node and menus Message-ID: <1242059526.7423.15.camel@localhost> Hello, I created one node, with two aliases both pointing to the same resource. dst - src node/1 -> foo node/1 -> baar I created two menu items, one each for foo (path = foo) and another for baar (path = baar). However both menu items end up pointing to foo which is the first alias I created. Thanks, -- Luciano Rossi gcoop - Cooperativa de Software Libre www.gcoop.com.ar (0054 11) 4856-7925 Luis. M. Drago 364 3 B From aldo at caonao.cu Mon May 11 17:23:52 2009 From: aldo at caonao.cu (Aldo Martinez Selleras) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 13:23:52 -0400 Subject: [support] ordering comments Message-ID: <4A085F28.4040904@caonao.cu> hello co-listers i have a content type where enable the Best Reply comment... well, i need order first the Best Reply, how can i do that? From earnie at users.sourceforge.net Mon May 11 17:27:52 2009 From: earnie at users.sourceforge.net (Earnie Boyd) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 17:27:52 +0000 Subject: [support] multiple url alias for the same node and menus In-Reply-To: <1242059526.7423.15.camel@localhost> References: <1242059526.7423.15.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <20090511172752.14152gl28dwzvri8@mail.siebunlimited.com> Quoting Luciano Rossi : > Hello, > I created one node, with two aliases both pointing to the same > resource. > > dst - src > node/1 -> foo > node/1 -> baar > > I created two menu items, one each for foo (path = foo) and another for > baar (path = baar). > > However both menu items end up pointing to foo which is the first alias > I created. > Do you have the Global Redirect module installed? It is considered SEO correctness to have one URL for the same data. Global Redirect will cause the URL to be accessed by only one of the aliases. -- Earnie -- http://r-feed.com/ -- http://for-my-kids.com/ -- http://www.4offer.biz/ -- http://give-me-an-offer.com/ From lukio at gcoop.com.ar Mon May 11 18:13:17 2009 From: lukio at gcoop.com.ar (Luciano Rossi) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 15:13:17 -0300 Subject: [support] multiple url alias for the same node and menus In-Reply-To: <20090511172752.14152gl28dwzvri8@mail.siebunlimited.com> References: <1242059526.7423.15.camel@localhost> <20090511172752.14152gl28dwzvri8@mail.siebunlimited.com> Message-ID: <1242065597.7423.26.camel@localhost> On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 17:27 +0000, Earnie Boyd wrote: > Quoting Luciano Rossi : > > > Hello, > > I created one node, with two aliases both pointing to the same > > resource. > > > > dst - src > > node/1 -> foo > > node/1 -> baar > > > > I created two menu items, one each for foo (path = foo) and another for > > baar (path = baar). > > > > However both menu items end up pointing to foo which is the first alias > > I created. > > > > Do you have the Global Redirect module installed? It is considered > SEO correctness to have one URL for the same data. Global Redirect > will cause the URL to be accessed by only one of the aliases. > Hi Earnie, I didn't installed Global Redirect at all. If I go to foo path or baar path I can access the same node. But, the url that show at menu item is always the same (foo in this case). Cheers, -- Luciano Rossi gcoop - Cooperativa de Software Libre www.gcoop.com.ar (0054 11) 4856-7925 Luis. M. Drago 364 3 B From earnie at users.sourceforge.net Mon May 11 18:58:58 2009 From: earnie at users.sourceforge.net (Earnie Boyd) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 18:58:58 +0000 Subject: [support] multiple url alias for the same node and menus In-Reply-To: <1242065597.7423.26.camel@localhost> References: <1242059526.7423.15.camel@localhost> <20090511172752.14152gl28dwzvri8@mail.siebunlimited.com> <1242065597.7423.26.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <20090511185858.18444q4j2vlmo48w@mail.siebunlimited.com> Quoting Luciano Rossi : > On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 17:27 +0000, Earnie Boyd wrote: >> Quoting Luciano Rossi : >> >> > Hello, >> > I created one node, with two aliases both pointing to the same >> > resource. >> > >> > dst - src >> > node/1 -> foo >> > node/1 -> baar >> > >> > I created two menu items, one each for foo (path = foo) and another for >> > baar (path = baar). >> > >> > However both menu items end up pointing to foo which is the first alias >> > I created. >> > >> >> Do you have the Global Redirect module installed? It is considered >> SEO correctness to have one URL for the same data. Global Redirect >> will cause the URL to be accessed by only one of the aliases. >> > > Hi Earnie, > I didn't installed Global Redirect at all. If I go to foo path or baar > path I can access the same node. But, the url that show at menu item is > always the same (foo in this case). > If you enter the baar directly in the URL does it remain? It is only the menu item that changes to foo URL? If yes, open an issue for the menu system. -- Earnie From entuland at gmail.com Mon May 11 19:19:31 2009 From: entuland at gmail.com (Francesco) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 21:19:31 +0200 Subject: [support] multiple url alias for the same node and menus In-Reply-To: <1242059526.7423.15.camel@localhost> References: <1242059526.7423.15.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <5803c9860905111219n4bd9fc8exff5926a93ff063cd@mail.gmail.com> 2009/5/11 Luciano Rossi : > Hello, > ?I created one node, with two aliases both pointing to the same > resource. > > dst ? ?- ?src > node/1 -> foo > node/1 -> baar > > I created two menu items, one each for foo (path = foo) and another for > baar (path = baar). > > However both menu items end up pointing to foo which is the first alias > I created. Hi Luciano, how did you create those two aliases in first instance? I wasn't able to reproduce it in order to test your issue. Regards, Francesco From neil at esl-lounge.com Mon May 11 22:06:11 2009 From: neil at esl-lounge.com (Neil Coghlan) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 19:06:11 -0300 Subject: [support] repeated phrase in search results Message-ID: <3DE80323C08D406092C0E10DA9300167@Neil> About 70% of my search results are getting listed with the same description: "... here for untrusted users." with possibly a tag or two after and nothing else. Two questions: 1. Where is this coming from. I'm pretty sure it's related to the CAPTCHA module as, when you are navigating the site as UID 1, any forms have an option to "add CAPTCHA here for untrusted users". 2. How can I increase the description for search results? Is that configured somewhere? thanks Neil -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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All the best & thanks in advance, -- Lev Lafayette (03) 9925 4909, Systems Administrator, Victorian Partnership for Advanced Computing "If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you summarize the original at the top of the message, or include just enough text of the original to give a context. This will make sure readers understand when they start to read your response." RFC 1855 From fb at codicelibero.net Tue May 12 14:53:07 2009 From: fb at codicelibero.net (Francesco Baldini) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 16:53:07 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [support] Booking a period of time (again..) Message-ID: <8bd97ca25450ef3e88e139579b91153c.squirrel@webmail.codicelibero.net> Hi, me again, and almost same subject :( Things are evolving and I arrived to something sure (i hope so..) What I need to do now is something different than before. I need to create a day, hour-to-hour (eg: 9am to 4pm), and let people book a part of this time, 1 hour or just 2, 3, 4, 5 and so on... more than 1 user can book this period of time but only after admin approval it have to disappear from availability times. What I did now is this a new content type where - Admin user creates one content per hour (9am to 4pm are 7 contents) - Authenticated users can book this time by commenting it - "Actions" sends an email to Admin user - "moder8" moderate booking-comment - on Views2 it disappear from availability as said, the biggest problem is that users don't have to book hour by hour but a period of 1, 2, 3, 4, etc.. so I can't create a post for every hour.. any idea? thnaks :| From didinux at gmail.com Tue May 12 19:44:14 2009 From: didinux at gmail.com (Didine) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 21:44:14 +0200 Subject: [support] user connection issue Message-ID: <49c3c4b80905121244g408363d2s900956e8c8f89be7@mail.gmail.com> Hello, I have a problem with my drupal website, when i connect to the admin area the user is connected i see the admin links but when i click on any link the user is disconnected :( can you help me please. 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Thanks, Steve Steve Kessler Denver DataMan 303-587-4428 Sign up for the Denver DataMan Free eNewsletter From: Didine [mailto:didinux at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:44 PM To: support at drupal.org Subject: [support] user connection issue Hello, I have a problem with my drupal website, when i connect to the admin area the user is connected i see the admin links but when i click on any link the user is disconnected :( can you help me please. Drupal version : 4.7.3 -- Didine Wayde. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Greg -- Greg Knaddison | 303-800-5623 | http://growingventuresolutions.com Cracking Drupal - Learn to protect your Drupal site from hackers Now available from Wiley http://crackingdrupal.com From bchoc at t4tcolorado.org Tue May 12 20:45:18 2009 From: bchoc at t4tcolorado.org (Brian Choc) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:45:18 -0600 Subject: [support] Multiple themes for user actions In-Reply-To: <2128620681.5836721242110496171.JavaMail.root@mail.vpac.org> References: <2128620681.5836721242110496171.JavaMail.root@mail.vpac.org> Message-ID: <507b282e0905121345u221c747ch7117f90751c83dba@mail.gmail.com> Well, if you want to have a different theme for adding/editing pages, you can select an administrative theme different than the general theme at /admin/settings/admin, and check "Use administration theme for content editing." Brian On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 12:41 AM, Lev Lafayette wrote: > Hello support, > > Is there a way of establishing a trigger on themes? For example, to have a > theme applied to a website and to change to another theme when a user is > (say) editing a page. Even a change to the colour scheme (e.g., it goes from > a blue marine to red tomato). > > I'm thinking that something that visually blurts out "Warning! Warning!"; > rather like how some terminal windows change colour when a user su's to a > root or sudoers account.. > > All the best & thanks in advance, > > -- > Lev Lafayette (03) 9925 4909, Systems Administrator, Victorian Partnership > for Advanced Computing > "If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you summarize > the original at the top of the message, or include just enough text of the > original to give a context. This will make sure readers understand when they > start to read your response." > RFC 1855 > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From didinux at gmail.com Tue May 12 21:18:10 2009 From: didinux at gmail.com (Didine) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 23:18:10 +0200 Subject: [support] user connection issue In-Reply-To: <01f701c9d33a$e1fb0c60$a5f12520$@com> References: <49c3c4b80905121244g408363d2s900956e8c8f89be7@mail.gmail.com> <01f701c9d33a$e1fb0c60$a5f12520$@com> Message-ID: <49c3c4b80905121418v7ecdced2m15b8464c6065ae2b@mail.gmail.com> Hello Steve, Thanks for your replay. I'm not switching between the two. I only have one host without www. Best regards, -- Didine Wayde. On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Steve Kessler wrote: > Are you switching between a site that is sometimes referenced with www. > And sometimes not? > > > > Thanks, > > Steve > > > > Steve Kessler > > *Denver DataMan * > > 303-587-4428 > > Sign up for the Denver DataMan Free eNewsletter > > > > *From:* Didine [mailto:didinux at gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:44 PM > *To:* support at drupal.org > *Subject:* [support] user connection issue > > > > Hello, > > I have a problem with my drupal website, when i connect to the admin area > the user is connected i see the admin links but when i click on any link the > user is disconnected :( > can you help me please. > > Drupal version : 4.7.3 > -- > Didine Wayde. > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Greg Knaddison wrote: > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Didine [mailto:didinux at gmail.com] wrote: > > Drupal version : 4.7.3 > > UPGRADE! > > There are bugs with session generation on Drupal 4.7.X and certain > versions of PHP. Upgrading will fix that along with a million other > bugs. While you're doing an upgrade, might as well make it all the > way to 6.x. > > Regards, > Greg > > -- > Greg Knaddison | 303-800-5623 | http://growingventuresolutions.com > Cracking Drupal - Learn to protect your Drupal site from hackers > Now available from Wiley http://crackingdrupal.com > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From killshot91 at comcast.net Tue May 12 21:50:35 2009 From: killshot91 at comcast.net (Steve Edwards) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:50:35 -0700 Subject: [support] user login redirect In-Reply-To: <4A09E894.9040406@caonao.cu> References: <49c3c4b80905121244g408363d2s900956e8c8f89be7@mail.gmail.com> <01f701c9d33a$e1fb0c60$a5f12520$@com> <49c3c4b80905121418v7ecdced2m15b8464c6065ae2b@mail.gmail.com> <4A09E894.9040406@caonao.cu> Message-ID: <4A09EF2B.4030401@comcast.net> http://drupal.org/project/logintoboggan Aldo Martinez Selleras wrote: > how can i redirect the user to some page when it logged in?? > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From didinux at gmail.com Tue May 12 22:22:27 2009 From: didinux at gmail.com (Didine) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 00:22:27 +0200 Subject: [support] user connection issue In-Reply-To: <49c3c4b80905121421g10b8eb9fw26e8f1d4268b98c7@mail.gmail.com> References: <49c3c4b80905121244g408363d2s900956e8c8f89be7@mail.gmail.com> <01f701c9d33a$e1fb0c60$a5f12520$@com> <3861c6770905121311o121b4b4dj549c4eb50e22abc5@mail.gmail.com> <49c3c4b80905121421g10b8eb9fw26e8f1d4268b98c7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49c3c4b80905121522n7e7de141l7d02ff0cecf126da@mail.gmail.com> Hello, I moved the entire website to my local host but the connexion issue persists -- Didine Wayde. On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Didine wrote: > Hello Greg, > > Thanks for replaying too :) > > I had some troubles with upgrading from 4.7 to the latest version of Drupal > because i have some third parties modules and some custom code :/ > > I'm considering, in the near future, disabling these modules and then > upgrade from 4.7 -> 5 -> 6 :) > > Best regards, > -- > Didine Wayde. > > > > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Greg Knaddison > wrote: > >> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 1:49 PM, Didine [mailto:didinux at gmail.com] >> wrote: >> > Drupal version : 4.7.3 >> >> UPGRADE! >> >> There are bugs with session generation on Drupal 4.7.X and certain >> versions of PHP. Upgrading will fix that along with a million other >> bugs. While you're doing an upgrade, might as well make it all the >> way to 6.x. >> >> Regards, >> Greg >> >> -- >> Greg Knaddison | 303-800-5623 | http://growingventuresolutions.com >> Cracking Drupal - Learn to protect your Drupal site from hackers >> Now available from Wiley http://crackingdrupal.com >> -- >> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From greg.knaddison at gmail.com Wed May 13 02:42:21 2009 From: greg.knaddison at gmail.com (Greg Knaddison) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 20:42:21 -0600 Subject: [support] user login redirect In-Reply-To: <4A09E894.9040406@caonao.cu> References: <49c3c4b80905121244g408363d2s900956e8c8f89be7@mail.gmail.com> <01f701c9d33a$e1fb0c60$a5f12520$@com> <49c3c4b80905121418v7ecdced2m15b8464c6065ae2b@mail.gmail.com> <4A09E894.9040406@caonao.cu> Message-ID: <3861c6770905121942qa36caa7xedbb9499fd79718b@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Aldo Martinez Selleras wrote: > how can i redirect the user to some page when it logged in?? http://drupal.org/project/login_destination Or use the destination url parameter like http://drupal.org/user?destination=your_path Regards, Greg -- Greg Knaddison | 303-800-5623 | http://growingventuresolutions.com Cracking Drupal - Learn to protect your Drupal site from hackers Now available from Wiley http://crackingdrupal.com From marolijo at yahoo.es Wed May 13 10:01:34 2009 From: marolijo at yahoo.es (Marolijo) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:01:34 +0200 Subject: [support] Hide submit and do an onchange submit on forms Message-ID: Hello, how cai I do it? 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From adam.gurno at gmail.com Wed May 13 11:40:47 2009 From: adam.gurno at gmail.com (Adam Gurno) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 06:40:47 -0500 Subject: [support] Hide submit and do an onchange submit on forms In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I needed something similar, so I created my own form and used Javascript to handle the onchange() events from each of the members. A On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 5:01 AM, Marolijo wrote: > Hello, how cai I do it? > I need a drupal form to be sent without the submit button. > Thank's! > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -- Adam Gurno adam at gurno.com From earnie at users.sourceforge.net Wed May 13 11:56:47 2009 From: earnie at users.sourceforge.net (Earnie Boyd) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 11:56:47 +0000 Subject: [support] user connection issue In-Reply-To: <49c3c4b80905121421g10b8eb9fw26e8f1d4268b98c7@mail.gmail.com> References: <49c3c4b80905121244g408363d2s900956e8c8f89be7@mail.gmail.com> <01f701c9d33a$e1fb0c60$a5f12520$@com> <3861c6770905121311o121b4b4dj549c4eb50e22abc5@mail.gmail.com> <49c3c4b80905121421g10b8eb9fw26e8f1d4268b98c7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090513115647.64192c3eok4l0m80@mail.siebunlimited.com> Quoting Didine : > > I'm considering, in the near future, disabling these modules and then > upgrade from 4.7 -> 5 -> 6 :) > Here's how I did that http://for-my-kids.com/Upgrading-Drupal. -- Earnie -- http://r-feed.com/ -- http://for-my-kids.com/ -- http://www.4offer.biz/ -- http://give-me-an-offer.com/ From adam.gurno at gmail.com Wed May 13 11:57:50 2009 From: adam.gurno at gmail.com (Adam Gurno) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 06:57:50 -0500 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <4A0AB1AF.6000907@theingots.org> References: <4A0AB1AF.6000907@theingots.org> Message-ID: Back in the 4.x days there was a caching module for the sidebar blocks. I don't know if the 5.x caching includes the sidebar blocks, but you might want to look into that. A On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:40 AM, Daniel Carrera wrote: > Hello, > > I'm having trouble with CPU usage on my Drupal 5 site. I just enabled > caching, and hopefully that will solve the problem, but I want to look at > what else I can do to reduce CPU usage further. > > On the performance page, Drupal gives me the option to "Aggregate and > compress CSS files". This sounds pretty good, as it would reduce bandwidth > and HTTP requests. But I'm concerned that the compression might increase CPU > usage. > > Can anyone tell me if selecting the "aggregate and compress CSS files" > option will increase my CPU usage? > > Can anyone suggest other ideas to decrease my CPU usage? > > Thanks, > Daniel. > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -- Adam Gurno adam at gurno.com From hans.rossel at koba.be Wed May 13 11:59:08 2009 From: hans.rossel at koba.be (KOBA | Hans Rossel) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 13:59:08 +0200 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <4A0AB1AF.6000907@theingots.org> References: <4A0AB1AF.6000907@theingots.org> Message-ID: <51a9b8330905130459j1a16d35bxc62475a3efe293a6@mail.gmail.com> Hi Daniel, Some ideas. If you can change settings on your server check out the archive with very interesting articles on the subject on http://2bits.com/articles/drupal-performance-tuning-and-optimization-for-large-web-sites.html The building of the cache takes a bit of time and consumes CPU also of course. It also all depends whats your ratio of logged in and anonymous users (you can see this easily in admin menu). If your problem with CPU comes from a lot of logged in users Make sure you disabled and uninstalled all modules which you don't use. Reduce number of cron runs and backups. Try to see where the load comes from. Search and views (especially views with relationships) can be heavy consumers. With your own server you could use Apache Solr as a replacement for the Drupal search. A radical but very effective solution for reducing CPU is to install http://drupal.org/project/boost it makes a static pure html copy of your pages. I'm using it on a few sites with great success, page loads dropped to 0.3s for anonymous users and also server load decreased with factor between 5 and 10. css aggregation is very good for loading speed performance; I'm not sure about the exact influence on cpu but I expect its not of much influence so I would put it on. Wim Leers has a very interesting article on page loading performance: http://wimleers.com/article/improving-drupals-page-loading-performance Good luck, Hans 2009/5/13 Daniel Carrera > Hello, > > I'm having trouble with CPU usage on my Drupal 5 site. I just enabled > caching, and hopefully that will solve the problem, but I want to look at > what else I can do to reduce CPU usage further. > > On the performance page, Drupal gives me the option to "Aggregate and > compress CSS files". This sounds pretty good, as it would reduce bandwidth > and HTTP requests. But I'm concerned that the compression might increase CPU > usage. > > Can anyone tell me if selecting the "aggregate and compress CSS files" > option will increase my CPU usage? > > Can anyone suggest other ideas to decrease my CPU usage? > > Thanks, > Daniel. > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -- Hans Rossel KOBA Webdevelopment Kerkstraat 228 9050 Gent 09-334.52.60 0472-79.32.16 www.koba.be info at koba.be -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hans.rossel at koba.be Wed May 13 12:09:30 2009 From: hans.rossel at koba.be (KOBA | Hans Rossel) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 14:09:30 +0200 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: References: <4A0AB1AF.6000907@theingots.org> Message-ID: <51a9b8330905130509i584c9eakf1b7a3fe14984404@mail.gmail.com> See http://drupal.org/project/blockcacheI tried it before but did not see much difference, but its easy to try. In D6 block cache is in core. There is also http://drupal.org/project/advcache for caching of authenticated users (on site where you have a lot of logged in users like social networking sites) but I haven't used that one yet, I'm curious to hear some comments of people that have used this module. Hans www.koba.be 2009/5/13 Adam Gurno > Back in the 4.x days there was a caching module for the sidebar > blocks. I don't know if the 5.x caching includes the sidebar blocks, > but you might want to look into that. > > A -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From daniel.carrera at theingots.org Wed May 13 12:17:29 2009 From: daniel.carrera at theingots.org (Daniel Carrera) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 14:17:29 +0200 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <51a9b8330905130459j1a16d35bxc62475a3efe293a6@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A0AB1AF.6000907@theingots.org> <51a9b8330905130459j1a16d35bxc62475a3efe293a6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A0ABA59.6090504@theingots.org> Hello Hans, Thanks for the great info Replies below: > If you can change settings on your server... I can't. Shared host. > The building of the cache takes a bit of time and consumes CPU also of > course. It also all depends whats your ratio of logged in and anonymous > users (you can see this easily in admin menu). If your problem with CPU > comes from a lot of logged in users Where can I find this ratio? The best I've found is the list of top visitors in the past 3 days. It looks like anonymous visitors dominate. > Make sure you disabled and uninstalled all modules which you don't use. > Reduce number of cron runs and backups. I disabled one module, but not much. Cron jobs are only once a day, in the morning, and backups are done by the host. > Try to see where the load comes from. Search and views (especially views > with relationships) can be heavy consumers. Hmm... I do have search and views. I'll take a closer look at those. I think I can probably do without the views. > A radical but very effective solution for reducing CPU is to > install http://drupal.org/project/boost > it makes a static pure html copy of your pages. I'm using it on a few > sites with great success, page loads dropped to 0.3s for anonymous users > and also server load decreased with factor between 5 and 10. Thanks. I'll take a closer look. Is there any drawback to making static pages? Can you edit the pages later? Why doesn't everybody use this? > css aggregation is very good for loading speed performance; I'm not sure > about the exact influence on cpu but I expect its not of much influence > so I would put it on. Ok, I've added it. > Wim Leers has a very interesting article on page > loading > performance: http://wimleers.com/article/improving-drupals-page-loading-performance Thanks! Daniel. From hans.rossel at koba.be Wed May 13 12:31:06 2009 From: hans.rossel at koba.be (KOBA | Hans Rossel) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 14:31:06 +0200 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <4A0ABA59.6090504@theingots.org> References: <4A0AB1AF.6000907@theingots.org> <51a9b8330905130459j1a16d35bxc62475a3efe293a6@mail.gmail.com> <4A0ABA59.6090504@theingots.org> Message-ID: <51a9b8330905130531j42c34786y4fa030ae5e7bb6f3@mail.gmail.com> http://drupal.org/project/admin_menu it gives you a dropdown menu on top with the ratio, but its actually not really neccesary because its again an extra module and you probably need less modules. The core "Who's online" block should give you the same data, enable it and make it visibly only for your role (make an admin role for yourself if you would not have done this yet). Hans > > > The building of the cache takes a bit of time and consumes CPU also of >> course. It also all depends whats your ratio of logged in and anonymous >> users (you can see this easily in admin menu). If your problem with CPU >> comes from a lot of logged in users >> > > Where can I find this ratio? The best I've found is the list of top > visitors in the past 3 days. It looks like anonymous visitors dominate. > > > >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hans.rossel at koba.be Wed May 13 12:39:40 2009 From: hans.rossel at koba.be (KOBA | Hans Rossel) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 14:39:40 +0200 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <51a9b8330905130531j42c34786y4fa030ae5e7bb6f3@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A0AB1AF.6000907@theingots.org> <51a9b8330905130459j1a16d35bxc62475a3efe293a6@mail.gmail.com> <4A0ABA59.6090504@theingots.org> <51a9b8330905130531j42c34786y4fa030ae5e7bb6f3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <51a9b8330905130539g2a87fe1fmae06021e4b63957a@mail.gmail.com> And logging of users takes also CPU so I would disable Drupal statistics module and install Google Analytics (or any other external statistics just paste the code before , dont use the Google Analytics module if you have performance problems). >>> >> Where can I find this ratio? The best I've found is the list of top >> visitors in the past 3 days. It looks like anonymous visitors dominate. >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From daniel.carrera at theingots.org Wed May 13 12:47:10 2009 From: daniel.carrera at theingots.org (Daniel Carrera) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 14:47:10 +0200 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <51a9b8330905130539g2a87fe1fmae06021e4b63957a@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A0AB1AF.6000907@theingots.org> <51a9b8330905130459j1a16d35bxc62475a3efe293a6@mail.gmail.com> <4A0ABA59.6090504@theingots.org> <51a9b8330905130531j42c34786y4fa030ae5e7bb6f3@mail.gmail.com> <51a9b8330905130539g2a87fe1fmae06021e4b63957a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A0AC14E.5000105@theingots.org> KOBA | Hans Rossel wrote: > And logging of users takes also CPU so I would disable Drupal statistics > module and install Google Analytics (or any other external statistics > just paste the code before , dont use the Google Analytics module > if you have performance problems). Thanks. And what about that Boost module you mentioned? Are there any drawbacks I should be aware of? I also activated the Throttle module, but I didn't know what options to pick so I just left the default. Was this a good idea? Thanks for all the help. Daniel. From steev at initsix.co.uk Wed May 13 12:36:58 2009 From: steev at initsix.co.uk (Steve Power) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 13:36:58 +0100 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <51a9b8330905130531j42c34786y4fa030ae5e7bb6f3@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A0AB1AF.6000907@theingots.org> <51a9b8330905130459j1a16d35bxc62475a3efe293a6@mail.gmail.com> <4A0ABA59.6090504@theingots.org> <51a9b8330905130531j42c34786y4fa030ae5e7bb6f3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <651c6d110905130536s9cad213n685666d63ea19978@mail.gmail.com> You could try installing apc cache which will reduce the amount of cpu time spent rendering php files, which should have an impact on cpu. if you have enough RAM. steev On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:31 PM, KOBA | Hans Rossel wrote: > http://drupal.org/project/admin_menu > it gives you a dropdown menu on top with the ratio, but its actually not > really neccesary because its again an extra module and you probably need > less modules. The core "Who's online" block should give you the same data, > enable it and make it visibly only for your role (make an admin role for > yourself if you would not have done this yet). > > Hans > >> >> >> The building of the cache takes a bit of time and consumes CPU also of >>> course. It also all depends whats your ratio of logged in and anonymous >>> users (you can see this easily in admin menu). If your problem with CPU >>> comes from a lot of logged in users >>> >> >> Where can I find this ratio? The best I've found is the list of top >> visitors in the past 3 days. It looks like anonymous visitors dominate. >> >> >> >>> > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -- -- -- Steve Power Principal Consultant Mobile: +44 (0) 7747 027 243 Initsix Technology and Media -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From daniel.carrera at theingots.org Wed May 13 13:15:27 2009 From: daniel.carrera at theingots.org (Daniel Carrera) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 15:15:27 +0200 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <651c6d110905130536s9cad213n685666d63ea19978@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A0AB1AF.6000907@theingots.org> <51a9b8330905130459j1a16d35bxc62475a3efe293a6@mail.gmail.com> <4A0ABA59.6090504@theingots.org> <51a9b8330905130531j42c34786y4fa030ae5e7bb6f3@mail.gmail.com> <651c6d110905130536s9cad213n685666d63ea19978@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A0AC7EF.20406@theingots.org> I once asked the web host to install the APC cache and my Drupal site stopped working entirely :-( I can't afford to have the site go down at this time. This is the end of the school year, which is the most important time for us. I'm really interested in that Boost module that Hans pointed out. I'm just trying to learn more about it right now. Daniel. Steve Power wrote: > You could try installing apc cache which will reduce the amount of cpu > time spent rendering php files, which should have an impact on cpu. if > you have enough RAM. > > steev > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:31 PM, KOBA | Hans Rossel > wrote: > > http://drupal.org/project/admin_menu > > it gives you a dropdown menu on top with the ratio, but its actually > not really neccesary because its again an extra module and you > probably need less modules. The core "Who's online" block should > give you the same data, enable it and make it visibly only for your > role (make an admin role for yourself if you would not have done > this yet). > > Hans > > > > The building of the cache takes a bit of time and consumes > CPU also of course. It also all depends whats your ratio of > logged in and anonymous users (you can see this easily in > admin menu). If your problem with CPU comes from a lot of > logged in users > > > Where can I find this ratio? The best I've found is the list of > top visitors in the past 3 days. It looks like anonymous > visitors dominate. > > > > > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > > > > > -- > -- > -- > Steve Power > Principal Consultant > Mobile: +44 (0) 7747 027 243 > Initsix Technology and Media > -- > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] From daniel.carrera at theingots.org Wed May 13 13:26:58 2009 From: daniel.carrera at theingots.org (Daniel Carrera) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 15:26:58 +0200 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <4A0AC7EF.20406@theingots.org> References: <4A0AB1AF.6000907@theingots.org> <51a9b8330905130459j1a16d35bxc62475a3efe293a6@mail.gmail.com> <4A0ABA59.6090504@theingots.org> <51a9b8330905130531j42c34786y4fa030ae5e7bb6f3@mail.gmail.com> <651c6d110905130536s9cad213n685666d63ea19978@mail.gmail.com> <4A0AC7EF.20406@theingots.org> Message-ID: <4A0ACAA2.4010103@theingots.org> This is not good: :-( http://codesorcery.net/2007/07/23/boost-your-drupal-site "The second issue is that currently, Boost will not work for sites that are not at the top-level. That is, if your site is domain.com/mysite, it will not work -- only domain.com would work." This is bad for me because my Drupal site is not top-level. Daniel. From steev at initsix.co.uk Wed May 13 13:32:45 2009 From: steev at initsix.co.uk (Steve Power) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 14:32:45 +0100 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <4A0AC7EF.20406@theingots.org> References: <4A0AB1AF.6000907@theingots.org> <51a9b8330905130459j1a16d35bxc62475a3efe293a6@mail.gmail.com> <4A0ABA59.6090504@theingots.org> <51a9b8330905130531j42c34786y4fa030ae5e7bb6f3@mail.gmail.com> <651c6d110905130536s9cad213n685666d63ea19978@mail.gmail.com> <4A0AC7EF.20406@theingots.org> Message-ID: <651c6d110905130632n34962d70ya8bd6744b903d564@mail.gmail.com> apc is a particularly easy install, and practically zero config (well, six lines) with a potentially enormous performance increase. Its worth trying again if your hosting company is willing to work through the problem with you. Another way of looking at it could be that if your hosting company cant configure apc without taking the site down, then perhaps a new host is in order. steev On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Daniel Carrera < daniel.carrera at theingots.org> wrote: > I once asked the web host to install the APC cache and my Drupal site > stopped working entirely :-( I can't afford to have the site go down at > this time. This is the end of the school year, which is the most important > time for us. > > I'm really interested in that Boost module that Hans pointed out. I'm just > trying to learn more about it right now. > > Daniel. > > Steve Power wrote: > >> You could try installing apc cache which will reduce the amount of cpu >> time spent rendering php files, which should have an impact on cpu. if you >> have enough RAM. >> >> steev >> >> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:31 PM, KOBA | Hans Rossel > hans.rossel at koba.be>> wrote: >> >> http://drupal.org/project/admin_menu >> >> it gives you a dropdown menu on top with the ratio, but its actually >> not really neccesary because its again an extra module and you >> probably need less modules. The core "Who's online" block should >> give you the same data, enable it and make it visibly only for your >> role (make an admin role for yourself if you would not have done >> this yet). >> >> Hans >> >> >> >> The building of the cache takes a bit of time and consumes >> CPU also of course. It also all depends whats your ratio of >> logged in and anonymous users (you can see this easily in >> admin menu). If your problem with CPU comes from a lot of >> logged in users >> >> >> Where can I find this ratio? The best I've found is the list of >> top visitors in the past 3 days. It looks like anonymous >> visitors dominate. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >> >> >> >> >> -- >> -- >> -- >> Steve Power >> Principal Consultant >> Mobile: +44 (0) 7747 027 243 >> Initsix Technology and Media >> -- >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> -- >> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >> > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -- -- -- Steve Power Principal Consultant Mobile: +44 (0) 7747 027 243 Initsix Technology and Media -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steev at initsix.co.uk Wed May 13 13:33:56 2009 From: steev at initsix.co.uk (Steve Power) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 14:33:56 +0100 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <4A0ACAA2.4010103@theingots.org> References: <4A0AB1AF.6000907@theingots.org> <51a9b8330905130459j1a16d35bxc62475a3efe293a6@mail.gmail.com> <4A0ABA59.6090504@theingots.org> <51a9b8330905130531j42c34786y4fa030ae5e7bb6f3@mail.gmail.com> <651c6d110905130536s9cad213n685666d63ea19978@mail.gmail.com> <4A0AC7EF.20406@theingots.org> <4A0ACAA2.4010103@theingots.org> Message-ID: <651c6d110905130633p70dfddaaq406855cfc93cdd95@mail.gmail.com> Do you have any specs re your hosting environment? i'd check fundamentals (cpu, ram, disk, other customers on the same box) before installing more modules. On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Daniel Carrera < daniel.carrera at theingots.org> wrote: > > This is not good: :-( > > http://codesorcery.net/2007/07/23/boost-your-drupal-site > > "The second issue is that currently, Boost will not work for sites that are > not at the top-level. That is, if your site is domain.com/mysite, it will > not work -- only domain.com would work." > > > This is bad for me because my Drupal site is not top-level. > > Daniel. > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -- -- -- Steve Power Principal Consultant Mobile: +44 (0) 7747 027 243 Initsix Technology and Media -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From greg.knaddison at gmail.com Wed May 13 13:48:56 2009 From: greg.knaddison at gmail.com (Greg Knaddison) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 07:48:56 -0600 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <4A0ABA59.6090504@theingots.org> References: <4A0AB1AF.6000907@theingots.org> <51a9b8330905130459j1a16d35bxc62475a3efe293a6@mail.gmail.com> <4A0ABA59.6090504@theingots.org> Message-ID: <3861c6770905130648u1a3b7646ifed570cdd23ec2c0@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:17 AM, Daniel Carrera wrote: > I can't. Shared host. A cheap VPS is $20/month and will likely solve the problem. If nothing else, it will make it easier to determine where the problem is and open you up to more potential solutions (installing an opcode cache, tweaking apache/mysql configs). Debugging a slow site on shared hosting is an exercise in futility. Regardless of the value you place on your own time, it doesn't take much time troubleshooting before a low cost shared hosting plan becomes a false savings. Regards, Greg -- Greg Knaddison | 303-800-5623 | http://growingventuresolutions.com Cracking Drupal - Learn to protect your Drupal site from hackers Now available from Wiley http://crackingdrupal.com From daniel.carrera at theingots.org Wed May 13 13:54:28 2009 From: daniel.carrera at theingots.org (Daniel Carrera) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 15:54:28 +0200 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <651c6d110905130632n34962d70ya8bd6744b903d564@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A0AB1AF.6000907@theingots.org> <51a9b8330905130459j1a16d35bxc62475a3efe293a6@mail.gmail.com> <4A0ABA59.6090504@theingots.org> <51a9b8330905130531j42c34786y4fa030ae5e7bb6f3@mail.gmail.com> <651c6d110905130536s9cad213n685666d63ea19978@mail.gmail.com> <4A0AC7EF.20406@theingots.org> <651c6d110905130632n34962d70ya8bd6744b903d564@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A0AD114.9070101@theingots.org> It's not that they "take the site down", it's that Drupal really just dies when APC is installed. I forget what the error was. It was back in January when we tried APC and Drupal stopped working. Steve Power wrote: > apc is a particularly easy install, and practically zero config (well, > six lines) with a potentially enormous performance increase. Its worth > trying again if your hosting company is willing to work through the > problem with you. Another way of looking at it could be that if your > hosting company cant configure apc without taking the site down, then > perhaps a new host is in order. > > steev > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Daniel Carrera > > wrote: > > I once asked the web host to install the APC cache and my Drupal > site stopped working entirely :-( I can't afford to have the site > go down at this time. This is the end of the school year, which is > the most important time for us. > > I'm really interested in that Boost module that Hans pointed out. > I'm just trying to learn more about it right now. > > Daniel. > > Steve Power wrote: > > You could try installing apc cache which will reduce the amount > of cpu time spent rendering php files, which should have an > impact on cpu. if you have enough RAM. > > steev > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:31 PM, KOBA | Hans Rossel > > >> wrote: > > http://drupal.org/project/admin_menu > > it gives you a dropdown menu on top with the ratio, but its > actually > not really neccesary because its again an extra module and you > probably need less modules. The core "Who's online" block should > give you the same data, enable it and make it visibly only > for your > role (make an admin role for yourself if you would not have done > this yet). > > Hans > > > > The building of the cache takes a bit of time and > consumes > CPU also of course. It also all depends whats your > ratio of > logged in and anonymous users (you can see this easily in > admin menu). If your problem with CPU comes from a lot of > logged in users > > > Where can I find this ratio? The best I've found is the > list of > top visitors in the past 3 days. It looks like anonymous > visitors dominate. > > > > > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > > > > > -- > -- > -- > Steve Power > Principal Consultant > Mobile: +44 (0) 7747 027 243 > Initsix Technology and Media > -- > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > > > > > -- > -- > -- > Steve Power > Principal Consultant > Mobile: +44 (0) 7747 027 243 > Initsix Technology and Media > -- > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] From daniel.carrera at theingots.org Wed May 13 13:58:03 2009 From: daniel.carrera at theingots.org (Daniel Carrera) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 15:58:03 +0200 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <651c6d110905130633p70dfddaaq406855cfc93cdd95@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A0AB1AF.6000907@theingots.org> <51a9b8330905130459j1a16d35bxc62475a3efe293a6@mail.gmail.com> <4A0ABA59.6090504@theingots.org> <51a9b8330905130531j42c34786y4fa030ae5e7bb6f3@mail.gmail.com> <651c6d110905130536s9cad213n685666d63ea19978@mail.gmail.com> <4A0AC7EF.20406@theingots.org> <4A0ACAA2.4010103@theingots.org> <651c6d110905130633p70dfddaaq406855cfc93cdd95@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A0AD1EB.8000809@theingots.org> CPU: Quad-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2350 RAM: 8GB The host is unitedhosting.co.uk which stands out because they do not over-sell the system resources like most shared hosts do (and hence, UH costs more too). I don't know how many users per box. They say that it's variable. Daniel. Steve Power wrote: > Do you have any specs re your hosting environment? i'd check > fundamentals (cpu, ram, disk, other customers on the same box) before > installing more modules. > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Daniel Carrera > > wrote: > > > This is not good: :-( > > http://codesorcery.net/2007/07/23/boost-your-drupal-site > > "The second issue is that currently, Boost will not work for sites > that are not at the top-level. That is, if your site is > domain.com/mysite , it will not work -- > only domain.com would work." > > > This is bad for me because my Drupal site is not top-level. > > Daniel. > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > > > > > -- > -- > -- > Steve Power > Principal Consultant > Mobile: +44 (0) 7747 027 243 > Initsix Technology and Media > -- > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] From steev at initsix.co.uk Wed May 13 14:12:51 2009 From: steev at initsix.co.uk (Steve Power) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 15:12:51 +0100 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <4A0AD1EB.8000809@theingots.org> References: <4A0AB1AF.6000907@theingots.org> <51a9b8330905130459j1a16d35bxc62475a3efe293a6@mail.gmail.com> <4A0ABA59.6090504@theingots.org> <51a9b8330905130531j42c34786y4fa030ae5e7bb6f3@mail.gmail.com> <651c6d110905130536s9cad213n685666d63ea19978@mail.gmail.com> <4A0AC7EF.20406@theingots.org> <4A0ACAA2.4010103@theingots.org> <651c6d110905130633p70dfddaaq406855cfc93cdd95@mail.gmail.com> <4A0AD1EB.8000809@theingots.org> Message-ID: <651c6d110905130712h28cebed7kef87ad42762439fb@mail.gmail.com> Blimey. I have the same spec (albeit EC2 instance), which is hosting 6 drupal sites, and can serve pages in under 1s with 50 concurrent users with LOTS of modules. erm, if i were a betting man, i would question what they are saying, against what you are seeing... i dont use these guys anymore, but their vps is excellent. www.bytemark.co.uk On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Daniel Carrera < daniel.carrera at theingots.org> wrote: > CPU: Quad-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2350 > RAM: 8GB > > The host is unitedhosting.co.uk which stands out because they do not > over-sell the system resources like most shared hosts do (and hence, UH > costs more too). I don't know how many users per box. They say that it's > variable. > > Daniel. > > Steve Power wrote: > >> Do you have any specs re your hosting environment? i'd check fundamentals >> (cpu, ram, disk, other customers on the same box) before installing more >> modules. >> >> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Daniel Carrera < >> daniel.carrera at theingots.org > >> wrote: >> >> >> This is not good: :-( >> >> http://codesorcery.net/2007/07/23/boost-your-drupal-site >> >> "The second issue is that currently, Boost will not work for sites >> that are not at the top-level. That is, if your site is >> domain.com/mysite , it will not work -- >> only domain.com would work." >> >> >> This is bad for me because my Drupal site is not top-level. >> >> Daniel. >> >> -- >> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >> >> >> >> >> -- >> -- >> -- >> Steve Power >> Principal Consultant >> Mobile: +44 (0) 7747 027 243 >> Initsix Technology and Media >> -- >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> -- >> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >> > > -- -- -- Steve Power Principal Consultant Mobile: +44 (0) 7747 027 243 Initsix Technology and Media -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From daniel.carrera at theingots.org Wed May 13 14:18:14 2009 From: daniel.carrera at theingots.org (Daniel Carrera) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 16:18:14 +0200 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <3861c6770905130648u1a3b7646ifed570cdd23ec2c0@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A0AB1AF.6000907@theingots.org> <51a9b8330905130459j1a16d35bxc62475a3efe293a6@mail.gmail.com> <4A0ABA59.6090504@theingots.org> <3861c6770905130648u1a3b7646ifed570cdd23ec2c0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A0AD6A6.2050108@theingots.org> Greg Knaddison wrote: > A cheap VPS is $20/month and will likely solve the problem. I am not a very good sysadmin and I hate sys admin work. I cry at the thought of having to configure Mailman (I have no idea how) or spam filters, or Apache, PHP and MySQL, or handle backup and recovery. I speak from experience. I have been the sys admin of a non-critical Drupal site and I know I would not like to do the same for a mission critical site. I chose this host as a way to get a balance between getting my fair share of resources while having someone else do the day-to-day admin work that I have neither interest nor aptitude for. > Debugging a slow site on shared hosting is an exercise in futility. > Regardless of the value you place on your own time, it doesn't take > much time troubleshooting before a low cost shared hosting plan > becomes a false savings. I did not choose the present shared host based on savings. I chose them because they have the best reputation for excellent support and uptime that is second to none. So far they have lived up to their reputation. My support requests receive an intelligent and useful response in less than 2 or 3 minutes. My top priority is reliability. I don't have enough confidence in my admin skills to believe that I can achieve better reliability myself than I can with United Hosting. Daniel. From fb at codicelibero.net Wed May 13 14:11:19 2009 From: fb at codicelibero.net (Francesco Baldini) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 16:11:19 +0200 Subject: [support] Booking a period of time (again..) In-Reply-To: <8bd97ca25450ef3e88e139579b91153c.squirrel@webmail.codicelibero.net> References: <8bd97ca25450ef3e88e139579b91153c.squirrel@webmail.codicelibero.net> Message-ID: <4A0AD507.70506@codicelibero.net> Francesco Baldini ha scritto: > Hi, > me again, and almost same subject :( > > Things are evolving and I arrived to something sure (i hope so..) > > What I need to do now is something different than before. > > I need to create a day, hour-to-hour (eg: 9am to 4pm), and let people book > a part of this time, 1 hour or just 2, 3, 4, 5 and so on... > > more than 1 user can book this period of time but only after admin > approval it have to disappear from availability times. > > > What I did now is this a new content type where > - Admin user creates one content per hour (9am to 4pm are 7 contents) > - Authenticated users can book this time by commenting it > - "Actions" sends an email to Admin user > - "moder8" moderate booking-comment > - on Views2 it disappear from availability > > as said, the biggest problem is that users don't have to book hour by hour > but a period of 1, 2, 3, 4, etc.. so I can't create a post for every > hour.. > any tip.....? From steev at initsix.co.uk Wed May 13 14:40:33 2009 From: steev at initsix.co.uk (Steve Power) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 15:40:33 +0100 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <4A0AD6A6.2050108@theingots.org> References: <4A0AB1AF.6000907@theingots.org> <51a9b8330905130459j1a16d35bxc62475a3efe293a6@mail.gmail.com> <4A0ABA59.6090504@theingots.org> <3861c6770905130648u1a3b7646ifed570cdd23ec2c0@mail.gmail.com> <4A0AD6A6.2050108@theingots.org> Message-ID: <651c6d110905130740i2be5e135v16be6414d32854@mail.gmail.com> ask them to move you to a less busy machine? On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Daniel Carrera < daniel.carrera at theingots.org> wrote: > Greg Knaddison wrote: > >> A cheap VPS is $20/month and will likely solve the problem. >> > > I am not a very good sysadmin and I hate sys admin work. I cry at the > thought of having to configure Mailman (I have no idea how) or spam filters, > or Apache, PHP and MySQL, or handle backup and recovery. > > I speak from experience. I have been the sys admin of a non-critical Drupal > site and I know I would not like to do the same for a mission critical site. > > I chose this host as a way to get a balance between getting my fair share > of resources while having someone else do the day-to-day admin work that I > have neither interest nor aptitude for. > > > Debugging a slow site on shared hosting is an exercise in futility. >> Regardless of the value you place on your own time, it doesn't take >> much time troubleshooting before a low cost shared hosting plan >> becomes a false savings. >> > > I did not choose the present shared host based on savings. I chose them > because they have the best reputation for excellent support and uptime that > is second to none. So far they have lived up to their reputation. My support > requests receive an intelligent and useful response in less than 2 or 3 > minutes. > > My top priority is reliability. I don't have enough confidence in my admin > skills to believe that I can achieve better reliability myself than I can > with United Hosting. > > Daniel. > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -- -- -- Steve Power Principal Consultant Mobile: +44 (0) 7747 027 243 Initsix Technology and Media -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From daniel.carrera at theingots.org Wed May 13 15:23:13 2009 From: daniel.carrera at theingots.org (Daniel Carrera) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:23:13 +0200 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <651c6d110905130740i2be5e135v16be6414d32854@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A0AB1AF.6000907@theingots.org> <51a9b8330905130459j1a16d35bxc62475a3efe293a6@mail.gmail.com> <4A0ABA59.6090504@theingots.org> <3861c6770905130648u1a3b7646ifed570cdd23ec2c0@mail.gmail.com> <4A0AD6A6.2050108@theingots.org> <651c6d110905130740i2be5e135v16be6414d32854@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A0AE5E1.3010503@theingots.org> It would help if I knew what the CPU usage actually was. Perhaps my site is just very badly configured (e.g. I didn't even have caching enabled). Also, the problem is not *technically* that I'm hitting a CPU quota. What happens is that we have a lot of requests coming from the same IP address (which is used by a number of schools, which are our customers). So the firewall at the server decides that this IP is mounting a DOS attack, so it blocks the IP, hence blocking our customers. I spoke with support, and they said if the CPU usage went down, it would reduce the chances of that school IP being blocked in the future. And that's how I ended up here asking about CPU usage. Cheers, Daniel. Steve Power wrote: > ask them to move you to a less busy machine? > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Daniel Carrera > > wrote: > > Greg Knaddison wrote: > > A cheap VPS is $20/month and will likely solve the problem. > > > I am not a very good sysadmin and I hate sys admin work. I cry at > the thought of having to configure Mailman (I have no idea how) or > spam filters, or Apache, PHP and MySQL, or handle backup and recovery. > > I speak from experience. I have been the sys admin of a non-critical > Drupal site and I know I would not like to do the same for a mission > critical site. > > I chose this host as a way to get a balance between getting my fair > share of resources while having someone else do the day-to-day admin > work that I have neither interest nor aptitude for. > > > > Debugging a slow site on shared hosting is an exercise in futility. > Regardless of the value you place on your own time, it doesn't take > much time troubleshooting before a low cost shared hosting plan > becomes a false savings. > > > I did not choose the present shared host based on savings. I chose > them because they have the best reputation for excellent support and > uptime that is second to none. So far they have lived up to their > reputation. My support requests receive an intelligent and useful > response in less than 2 or 3 minutes. > > My top priority is reliability. I don't have enough confidence in my > admin skills to believe that I can achieve better reliability myself > than I can with United Hosting. > > Daniel. > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > > > > > -- > -- > -- > Steve Power > Principal Consultant > Mobile: +44 (0) 7747 027 243 > Initsix Technology and Media > -- > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] From bberenberg at gmail.com Wed May 13 15:41:13 2009 From: bberenberg at gmail.com (Boris Berenberg) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 08:41:13 -0700 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <4A0AE5E1.3010503@theingots.org> References: <4A0AB1AF.6000907@theingots.org> <51a9b8330905130459j1a16d35bxc62475a3efe293a6@mail.gmail.com> <4A0ABA59.6090504@theingots.org> <3861c6770905130648u1a3b7646ifed570cdd23ec2c0@mail.gmail.com> <4A0AD6A6.2050108@theingots.org> <651c6d110905130740i2be5e135v16be6414d32854@mail.gmail.com> <4A0AE5E1.3010503@theingots.org> Message-ID: <3DBACCF2-77EB-4196-94A8-15E210960840@gmail.com> Why not just whitelist the ip and be done with it? Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse any grammatical or spelling errors. On May 13, 2009, at 8:23 AM, Daniel Carrera wrote: > It would help if I knew what the CPU usage actually was. Perhaps my > site is just very badly configured (e.g. I didn't even have caching > enabled). > > Also, the problem is not *technically* that I'm hitting a CPU quota. > What happens is that we have a lot of requests coming from the same > IP address (which is used by a number of schools, which are our > customers). So the firewall at the server decides that this IP is > mounting a DOS attack, so it blocks the IP, hence blocking our > customers. > > I spoke with support, and they said if the CPU usage went down, it > would reduce the chances of that school IP being blocked in the > future. And that's how I ended up here asking about CPU usage. > > Cheers, > Daniel. > > > Steve Power wrote: >> ask them to move you to a less busy machine? >> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Daniel Carrera > > wrote: >> Greg Knaddison wrote: >> A cheap VPS is $20/month and will likely solve the problem. >> I am not a very good sysadmin and I hate sys admin work. I cry at >> the thought of having to configure Mailman (I have no idea how) or >> spam filters, or Apache, PHP and MySQL, or handle backup and >> recovery. >> I speak from experience. I have been the sys admin of a non- >> critical >> Drupal site and I know I would not like to do the same for a >> mission >> critical site. >> I chose this host as a way to get a balance between getting my >> fair >> share of resources while having someone else do the day-to-day >> admin >> work that I have neither interest nor aptitude for. >> Debugging a slow site on shared hosting is an exercise in >> futility. >> Regardless of the value you place on your own time, it >> doesn't take >> much time troubleshooting before a low cost shared hosting >> plan >> becomes a false savings. >> I did not choose the present shared host based on savings. I chose >> them because they have the best reputation for excellent support >> and >> uptime that is second to none. So far they have lived up to their >> reputation. My support requests receive an intelligent and useful >> response in less than 2 or 3 minutes. >> My top priority is reliability. I don't have enough confidence >> in my >> admin skills to believe that I can achieve better reliability >> myself >> than I can with United Hosting. >> Daniel. >> -- >> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >> -- >> -- >> -- >> Steve Power >> Principal Consultant >> Mobile: +44 (0) 7747 027 243 >> Initsix Technology and Media >> -- >> --- >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] From me at joshuarogers.net Wed May 13 15:42:59 2009 From: me at joshuarogers.net (Joshua Rogers) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 10:42:59 -0500 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <4A0AE5E1.3010503@theingots.org> References: <4A0AB1AF.6000907@theingots.org> <651c6d110905130740i2be5e135v16be6414d32854@mail.gmail.com> <4A0AE5E1.3010503@theingots.org> Message-ID: <200905131042.59904.me@joshuarogers.net> > I spoke with support, and they said if the CPU usage went down, it would > reduce the chances of that school IP being blocked in the future. And > that's how I ended up here asking about CPU usage. That doesn't sound like a firewall. That sounds like trying to sale a bigger package. From steev at initsix.co.uk Wed May 13 16:01:42 2009 From: steev at initsix.co.uk (Steve Power) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:01:42 +0100 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <200905131042.59904.me@joshuarogers.net> References: <4A0AB1AF.6000907@theingots.org> <651c6d110905130740i2be5e135v16be6414d32854@mail.gmail.com> <4A0AE5E1.3010503@theingots.org> <200905131042.59904.me@joshuarogers.net> Message-ID: <651c6d110905130901m19d22b40jf68ae6a196c9fbeb@mail.gmail.com> Yup. Same here. Sounds like shennanigans. On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Joshua Rogers wrote: > > I spoke with support, and they said if the CPU usage went down, it would > > reduce the chances of that school IP being blocked in the future. And > > that's how I ended up here asking about CPU usage. > > That doesn't sound like a firewall. That sounds like trying to sale a > bigger > package. > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -- -- -- Steve Power Principal Consultant Mobile: +44 (0) 7747 027 243 Initsix Technology and Media -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jgazis at gmail.com Wed May 13 16:56:15 2009 From: jgazis at gmail.com (Jean Gazis) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:56:15 -0400 Subject: [support] Pushbutton theme, modules & CSS - multiple style sheets? Message-ID: <90f7ebd10905130956q6cb7d9c2ia107d473afc0825d@mail.gmail.com> I'm adapting a site based on the pushbutton theme and am getting stuck in the CSS. It looks like instead of using several style sheets (style.css plus system.css etc.), they are all being aggregated in a temporary .css file, with a name like "770fjlp987d67ni9y773po6494.css", so when I go to a new page, the css file changes. How can I edit the correct CSS files? ................................................................................. Jean Gazis www.jeangazis.com www.boxofrain.com 212-937-7654 "They say that time changes things, but you actually have to change them yourself." ? Andy Warhol ................................................................................. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mroswell at gmail.com Wed May 13 17:14:38 2009 From: mroswell at gmail.com (Margie Roswell) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 13:14:38 -0400 Subject: [support] Pushbutton theme, modules & CSS - multiple style sheets? In-Reply-To: <90f7ebd10905130956q6cb7d9c2ia107d473afc0825d@mail.gmail.com> References: <90f7ebd10905130956q6cb7d9c2ia107d473afc0825d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Check admin/settings/performance To see if "Aggregate and compress CSS files" is enabled. If so, disable it. You can re-enable when you're done editing the CSS files. On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Jean Gazis wrote: > I'm adapting a site based on the pushbutton theme and am getting stuck in > the CSS. It looks like instead of using several style sheets (style.css plus > system.css etc.), they are all being aggregated in a temporary .css file, > with a name like "770fjlp987d67ni9y773po6494.css", so when I go to a new > page, the css file changes. > > How can I edit the correct CSS files? > > ................................................................................. > Jean Gazis > www.jeangazis.com > www.boxofrain.com > 212-937-7654 > > "They say that time changes things, but you actually have to change them > yourself." ? 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URL: From daniel.carrera at theingots.org Wed May 13 17:22:02 2009 From: daniel.carrera at theingots.org (Daniel Carrera) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 19:22:02 +0200 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <3DBACCF2-77EB-4196-94A8-15E210960840@gmail.com> References: <4A0AB1AF.6000907@theingots.org> <51a9b8330905130459j1a16d35bxc62475a3efe293a6@mail.gmail.com> <4A0ABA59.6090504@theingots.org> <3861c6770905130648u1a3b7646ifed570cdd23ec2c0@mail.gmail.com> <4A0AD6A6.2050108@theingots.org> <651c6d110905130740i2be5e135v16be6414d32854@mail.gmail.com> <4A0AE5E1.3010503@theingots.org> <3DBACCF2-77EB-4196-94A8-15E210960840@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A0B01BA.2000105@theingots.org> I know... but they don't do that... Stoopid... Boris Berenberg wrote: > Why not just whitelist the ip and be done with it? > From daniel.carrera at theingots.org Wed May 13 17:25:12 2009 From: daniel.carrera at theingots.org (Daniel Carrera) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 19:25:12 +0200 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <651c6d110905130901m19d22b40jf68ae6a196c9fbeb@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A0AB1AF.6000907@theingots.org> <651c6d110905130740i2be5e135v16be6414d32854@mail.gmail.com> <4A0AE5E1.3010503@theingots.org> <200905131042.59904.me@joshuarogers.net> <651c6d110905130901m19d22b40jf68ae6a196c9fbeb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A0B0278.6000904@theingots.org> Steve Power wrote: > Yup. Same here. Sounds like shennanigans. What do you recommend? I spent a lot of time researching hosts before I selected this one. And United Hosting has glowing reviews spanning several years. I don't want a VPS because I have neither skill nor interest in sys admin tasks. Btw, they have not suggested that I upgrade, or suggested that an upgrade might help. In fact, what they did is try to suggest ways I might lower the CPU consumption of my site. Daniel. From bberenberg at gmail.com Wed May 13 18:55:28 2009 From: bberenberg at gmail.com (Boris Berenberg) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 11:55:28 -0700 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <4A0B0278.6000904@theingots.org> Message-ID: <4a0b17ab.0f98600a.6536.4000@mx.google.com> If this is a serious site I would recommend a managed vps / managed server. The amount of things that you will be able to tweak to work with YOUR site will allow your site to run much better. You might want to start migrating your site to a host who knows how to manage a network. Auto blacklisting legitimate customers is a sure sign of mismanagement. If you are making significant money from your site a host like Rackspace: http://www.rackspace.com/solutions/managed_hosting/configurations/index.php Is 100% solid and will do anything and everything you need. Yes they are expensive, but they have the knowledge and experience to charge that fairly. -----Original Message----- From: support-bounces at drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces at drupal.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Carrera Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 10:25 AM To: support at drupal.org Subject: Re: [support] CPU usage Steve Power wrote: > Yup. Same here. Sounds like shennanigans. What do you recommend? I spent a lot of time researching hosts before I selected this one. And United Hosting has glowing reviews spanning several years. I don't want a VPS because I have neither skill nor interest in sys admin tasks. Btw, they have not suggested that I upgrade, or suggested that an upgrade might help. In fact, what they did is try to suggest ways I might lower the CPU consumption of my site. Daniel. -- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] From daniel.carrera at theingots.org Wed May 13 19:15:18 2009 From: daniel.carrera at theingots.org (Daniel Carrera) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 21:15:18 +0200 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <4a0b17ab.0f98600a.6536.4000@mx.google.com> References: <4a0b17ab.0f98600a.6536.4000@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <4A0B1C46.5040600@theingots.org> Boris Berenberg wrote: > If this is a serious site I would recommend a managed vps / managed server. A *managed* VPS sounds like a good idea. The flexibility of a VPS, with a competent sys admin to make the system actually work. But I'm not sure we can afford that. I think we can reasonably spend as much as $100/month if the system is worth it. I would, however, prefer to keep the cost closer to $50/month if that can be done. Looking at Rackspace, I don't know if that $399 is per month or per year (I don't know if its a real server or just a VPS). But I think that $399/month is probably outside our budget right now. > If you are making > significant money from your site a host like Rackspace: > http://www.rackspace.com/solutions/managed_hosting/configurations/index.php > Is 100% solid and will do anything and everything you need. Yes they are > expensive, but they have the knowledge and experience to charge that fairly. Do you use them? How much experience do you have with them? We are not making "significant money" but the website is central to the business and it is worth spending extra money to get a good service. I am a bit hesitate to migrate right now. We are close to the end of the school year and that's our busiest period. On the one hand, that means that we really don't want customers getting blocked right now. On the other, I wouldn't want any down time due to a server move. Do you know if Rackspace has anything in our budget range? Can you point me to reviews of Rackspace? Generally I have been very satisfied with United Hosting. This is the first time we have a problem like this and generally they are very professional and responsive. That said, I don't feel any loyalty to them and I'm willing to change if it'll make things better. But then again, it is always a bit hard to move because you don't really know what you'll get on the new host. Will it really be better? Might you have a different set of issues? Maybe the new host will take a day to reply to an email, or something... Anyways, I'm willing to investigate Rackspace. Daniel. From daniel.carrera at theingots.org Wed May 13 19:26:12 2009 From: daniel.carrera at theingots.org (Daniel Carrera) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 21:26:12 +0200 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <4A0B1C46.5040600@theingots.org> References: <4a0b17ab.0f98600a.6536.4000@mx.google.com> <4A0B1C46.5040600@theingots.org> Message-ID: <4A0B1ED4.4050107@theingots.org> Daniel Carrera wrote: > Generally I have been very satisfied with United Hosting. This is the > first time we have a problem like this and generally they are very > professional and responsive. That said, I don't feel any loyalty to them > and I'm willing to change if it'll make things better. But then again, > it is always a bit hard to move because you don't really know what > you'll get on the new host. Will it really be better? Might you have a > different set of issues? Maybe the new host will take a day to reply to > an email, or something... United Hosting does four backups a day, so I have a lot of granularity when selecting a backup ("last Tuesday, 10AM backup"). I've only been with this company since January and I've already used this feature twice. I don't imagine that Rackspace can do the same... Daniel. From maiasaura at gmx.net Wed May 13 19:42:45 2009 From: maiasaura at gmx.net (Annet de Boer) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 21:42:45 +0200 Subject: [support] Unable to keep logged in to some sites when behind a proxy In-Reply-To: <5803c9860905070443v7f7266ak5871d0bbd67f9d05@mail.gmail.com> References: <5803c9860905061733w1b52fe9chf48d3411fc514ec5@mail.gmail.com> <4A028074.4080608@gmx.net> <5803c9860905070443v7f7266ak5871d0bbd67f9d05@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A0B22B5.7080706@gmx.net> Hi Francesco, I'm not an expert on this subject, but I know there are several ways of authenticating users. Cookies can be disabled by browsers, so there are other ways (not necessarily better) like storing session ID's in URLs, for example. I don't know if the cookie gets stored on your proxy (but i believe this is possible, technically speaking) isn't there an IT department or other system admin that can tell you more about that maybe (somebody who installed the proxy I mean)? I assume once the host checks for cookies and none is found or is saved, they use a different method of authentication. Now the tests you did, in my eyes, seem a bit odd. Like, the normal behaviour would be to log out, before switching to a different connection, and also, your IP changes when you switch so it's not really strange that you get thrown out. But actually my question is, what is exactly the case? In your first post it seemed the problem was you couldn't connect to several drupal sites when you use a proxy-connection, but on one you could and they were all the same drupal version? I'm not sure now. Can you be more specific on the exact question you have? Or maybe somebody else knows anything that might help? I also remember there's an option in IE that says "bypass proxy for local addresses", now i don't know if the site where it works is 'local' for you, but if this option is checked maybe that could also make it work differently. Greetings, Annet Francesco schreef: > yes, it really sounds like a cookie problem, and something really > strange is happening - at least that's strange for me... > > After your comments I've decided to do some tests to check when and > which cookies get set logging on the two sites (the working one and > the one that throws me out). > > Here are the results: > > on frasic.altervista.org (and on other drupal installations on the same server): > - I can log in with the proxy connection, no cookie gets set, I keep logged in; > - I switch to the no-proxy connection without logging out and I get thrown out; > - I log in with the no-proxy connection, a session cookie gets set, I > keep logged in; > - I switch to the proxy connection without logging out and I get thrown out; > - I am not able to log in any more with the proxy connection if I > don't delete the session cookie. Once deleted, I can log in again and > keep logged in as usual. > > on drupal.org or on toscana-offerte.com/drupal: > - I can log in with the no-proxy connection, a session cookie gets set > and I keep logged in. > - I can switch to the proxy connection and keep logged in, but if I > delete the session cookie I get thrown out again > > Well, for the poor knowledge I have about all this stuff, I think that > the drupal.org behavior is the right one... > > The fact that I can keep logged in with no session cookie set on my PC > frightens me... where does Drupal get the authentication from, when > I'm browsing frasic.altervista.org while behind the proxy? Does my > session cookie get saved on the proxy server? > > I feel a bit uncomfortable after those tests... I look forward for your advice. > > Thank you all for your attention, > best regards, > Francesco > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.325 / Virus Database: 270.12.21/2101 - Release Date: 05/06/09 17:58:00 > From daniel.carrera at theingots.org Wed May 13 19:42:46 2009 From: daniel.carrera at theingots.org (Daniel Carrera) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 21:42:46 +0200 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <4A0B1ED4.4050107@theingots.org> References: <4a0b17ab.0f98600a.6536.4000@mx.google.com> <4A0B1C46.5040600@theingots.org> <4A0B1ED4.4050107@theingots.org> Message-ID: <4A0B22B6.10103@theingots.org> Btw, we currently use Mailfoundry as our spam filter, and Mailfoundry also has problems red-listing the IP of the school in question. It's the same reason - a large number of emails originating from this IP are interpreted as spam. How would you interpret this? Does the fact that Mailfoundry also blocks the exact same IP mean anything? It seems odd that both services would see a problem with this IP sending a lot of queries and decide to red-list it. Daniel. Daniel Carrera wrote: > Daniel Carrera wrote: >> Generally I have been very satisfied with United Hosting. This is the >> first time we have a problem like this and generally they are very >> professional and responsive. That said, I don't feel any loyalty to >> them and I'm willing to change if it'll make things better. But then >> again, it is always a bit hard to move because you don't really know >> what you'll get on the new host. Will it really be better? Might you >> have a different set of issues? Maybe the new host will take a day to >> reply to an email, or something... > > United Hosting does four backups a day, so I have a lot of granularity > when selecting a backup ("last Tuesday, 10AM backup"). I've only been > with this company since January and I've already used this feature > twice. I don't imagine that Rackspace can do the same... > > Daniel. > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > From didinux at gmail.com Wed May 13 20:10:55 2009 From: didinux at gmail.com (Didine) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 22:10:55 +0200 Subject: [support] user connection issue In-Reply-To: <20090513115647.64192c3eok4l0m80@mail.siebunlimited.com> References: <49c3c4b80905121244g408363d2s900956e8c8f89be7@mail.gmail.com> <01f701c9d33a$e1fb0c60$a5f12520$@com> <3861c6770905121311o121b4b4dj549c4eb50e22abc5@mail.gmail.com> <49c3c4b80905121421g10b8eb9fw26e8f1d4268b98c7@mail.gmail.com> <20090513115647.64192c3eok4l0m80@mail.siebunlimited.com> Message-ID: <49c3c4b80905131310ye0afb86o9dcd8002ba84ef52@mail.gmail.com> Hello Earnie, Thanks for the link :) I now have a small problem, how can i disable the contrib modules i have in my 4.7 drupal install ? (keep in mind that i can't login to my site) so the question how can i disable the contrib module from the database ? Best regards, -- Didine Wayde. On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Earnie Boyd wrote: > Quoting Didine : > > >> I'm considering, in the near future, disabling these modules and then >> upgrade from 4.7 -> 5 -> 6 :) >> >> > Here's how I did that http://for-my-kids.com/Upgrading-Drupal. > > -- > Earnie > -- http://r-feed.com/ -- http://for-my-kids.com/ > -- http://www.4offer.biz/ -- http://give-me-an-offer.com/ > > > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From entuland at gmail.com Wed May 13 23:18:56 2009 From: entuland at gmail.com (Francesco) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 01:18:56 +0200 Subject: [support] Unable to keep logged in to some sites when behind a proxy In-Reply-To: <4A0B22B5.7080706@gmx.net> References: <5803c9860905061733w1b52fe9chf48d3411fc514ec5@mail.gmail.com> <4A028074.4080608@gmx.net> <5803c9860905070443v7f7266ak5871d0bbd67f9d05@mail.gmail.com> <4A0B22B5.7080706@gmx.net> Message-ID: <5803c9860905131618h2a0ef933t641e1a9fb6ecfc96@mail.gmail.com> Hi Annet, thank you for your response, I'll interleave my replies to your lines. 2009/5/13 Annet de Boer : > Hi Francesco, > > I'm not an expert on this subject, but I know there are several ways of > authenticating users. Cookies can be disabled by browsers, so there are > other ways (not necessarily better) like storing session ID's in URLs, for > example. I don't know if the cookie gets stored on your proxy (but i believe > this is possible, technically speaking) I knew that other authentication methods were possible, my perplexity is about the fact that, as far as I know, Drupal relies on cookies alone, by default - and my test installations were plain, unmodified Drupal 6.10. Also, I've checked the URLs and no session ID appears there. My proxy must be definitely storing cookies for my connections. > isn't there an IT department or > other system admin that can tell you more about that maybe (somebody who > installed the proxy I mean)? Unfortunately, I cannot rely on my ISP advice - I must cope with it because I knew in advance that the service was provided as-is, with no support whatsoever. > I assume once the host checks for cookies and none is found or is saved, > they use a different method of authentication. That's exactly what I thought in a first time, but taking the default behavior of Drupal for granted, I believe it relies on cookies alone. > Now the tests you did, in my eyes, seem a bit odd. Like, the normal > behaviour would be to log out, before switching to a different connection, > and also, your IP changes when you switch so it's not really strange that > you get thrown out. > > But actually my question is, what is exactly the case? > In your first post it seemed the problem was you couldn't connect to several > drupal sites when you use a proxy-connection, but on one you could and they > were all the same drupal version? > I'm not sure now. Can you be more specific on the exact question you have? > Or maybe somebody else knows anything that might help? Yes, all installations were plain 6.10 version. I'll re-expose the tests below, I'm not sure that I've fully explained them the first time. > I also remember there's an option in IE that says "bypass proxy for local > addresses", now i don't know if the site where it works is 'local' for you, > but if this option is checked maybe that could also make it work > differently. I do use that option in Firefox, actually, all local installations work perfectly, the problem appears only with (some) published sites. Here are the test results exposed in another way: | LP? | LN? | CP? | CN? | P>N | N>P | Drupal installed on: | NO? | YES | N.A.| YES | N.A.| YES | toscana-offerte.com/drupal | YES | YES | NO? | YES | NO? | NO? | frasic.altervista.org Legend: LP - Can log in with proxy-connection LN - Can log in with normal-connection CP - Cookie gets set with proxy-connection CN - Cookie gets set with normal-connection P>N - Can keep logged in switching from proxy-connection to normal-connection N>P - Can keep logged in switching from normal-connection to proxy connection Note: - on the first site, CP and P>N are "not applicable" because I cannot log in in first instance. - with "cookie gets set" I mean "gets set locally on my PC". I'm planning another test in order to check if my proxy server is storing cookies for me, more about that at the bottom of this message. Actually, the above does not expose all the tests I did, hence I'm rearranging (a bit) the texts I've sent in my previous message - I'm also adding some suppositions in square brackets, all the points are plain facts, I've double checked them: ---------------------------- on frasic.altervista.org (and on other drupal installations on the same server): A - I can log in with the proxy connection, no cookie gets set, I keep logged in [ I suppose the cookie gets set on the proxy server ] B - I switch to the normal connection without logging out and I get thrown out [ I suppose that with normal connection, Drupal expects a cookie to be sent back from my PC, while with the proxy connection, it must be the proxy server the one who is sending it back ] C - I log in with the normal connection, a session cookie gets set, I keep logged in [ that should be the normal behavior ] D - I switch to the proxy connection without logging out and I get thrown out [ although there is a cookie in my PC in this very moment...] E - I am not able to log in any more with the proxy connection if I don't delete the session cookie. Once deleted, I can log in again and keep logged in as usual. [ this must mean that the cookie does actually get sent to Drupal, but evidently it must be considered an invalid cookie ] ------------------------------------ on drupal.org or on toscana-offerte.com/drupal: F - I can log in with the normal connection, a session cookie gets set and I keep logged in. [ just fine ] G - I can switch to the proxy connection and keep logged in, but if I delete the session cookie I get thrown out again [ and just fine once again ] ------------------- I think I'll do some tests more, I'll try to hack some core function in order to display the cookies it is using on the pages it will render. I'll get back here again once I'll be done with those tests. I'll dig my way to find the right function to hack, I was about to ask for a pointer but I think it will be more instructive to find it by myself - this should help me understanding better the Drupal flow of calls. Shall somebody be interested in deeper details about the proxy connection I'm using, please ask for them in a private message, I'm not comfortable disclosing such details in public. Thank you all once again for your interest and your attention - and for your patience! I happen to be verbose and redundant at very least ;-) Have good time, long life to Drupal Francesco From marc at funnymonkey.com Thu May 14 00:07:11 2009 From: marc at funnymonkey.com (Marc Poris) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:07:11 -0700 Subject: [support] Multiple themes for user actions In-Reply-To: <2128620681.5836721242110496171.JavaMail.root@mail.vpac.org> References: <2128620681.5836721242110496171.JavaMail.root@mail.vpac.org> Message-ID: <4A0B60AF.2030209@funnymonkey.com> Sections can do this for you: http://drupal.org/project/sections - Marc Lev Lafayette wrote: > Hello support, > > Is there a way of establishing a trigger on themes? For example, to have a theme applied to a website and to change to another theme when a user is (say) editing a page. Even a change to the colour scheme (e.g., it goes from a blue marine to red tomato). > > I'm thinking that something that visually blurts out "Warning! Warning!"; rather like how some terminal windows change colour when a user su's to a root or sudoers account.. > > All the best & thanks in advance, > > From lev at vpac.org Thu May 14 01:37:48 2009 From: lev at vpac.org (Lev Lafayette) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 11:37:48 +1000 (EST) Subject: [support] Multiple themes for user actions In-Reply-To: <4A0B60AF.2030209@funnymonkey.com> Message-ID: <781676475.5939141242265068624.JavaMail.root@mail.vpac.org> ----- "Marc Poris" wrote: > Sections can do this for you: http://drupal.org/project/sections > Thanks Marc, I'll give that a go. It looks right. -- Lev Lafayette (03) 9925 4909, Systems Administrator, Victorian Partnership for Advanced Computing "If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you summarize the original at the top of the message, or include just enough text of the original to give a context. This will make sure readers understand when they start to read your response." RFC 1855 From drupallist at dirtsimple.net Thu May 14 06:11:20 2009 From: drupallist at dirtsimple.net (Cosmo) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 02:11:20 -0400 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <4A0AE5E1.3010503@theingots.org> Message-ID: If you have shell access to the server you can just run "top" (or I think also "load") and that will give the machines CPU utilization. I had a load problem with Dreamhost when then surprised me by moving my hosting account to a heavily loaded machine. But what made it worse was them then danced for weeks with excuses while they attempted to find the culprit on the machine abusing resources. And they never answered the question as to why they moved me in the first place. So, it fell upon me to run "top" regularly and emailing support complaining of loads in 100's and even 1000's! (I know the average sys admin says just move to a dedicated machine and be done with it, but during a ramp up when one can't afford it one must deal with what they have. Plus, moving a site(s) is no picnic. Note: I am not recommending Dreamhost any longer because of this. In fact, what I did was move part of my hosting to Site5 where they guaranteed that server loads would stay in single digits (which is where it's been since). They even post their machine loads on their website for anyone to see at any time, which felt reassuring. The only thing bad I've heard about Site5 is a post where they cut some guy off at the knees because of server resource abuse and wouldn't restart his account (at least that was his story, but I'll be he was warned and chose to do nothing about it. As apposed to the DH approach of telling the client something like "come on, stop that or we'll... --- and then do nothing. And I'm only saying this because I can't imagine it's too hard to figure out what resource is running away and simply killing it - of course, I'm not a sys admin, and don't care to be, so maybe it's harder than I think. Best Cozzi -----Original Message----- From: support-bounces at drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces at drupal.org]On Behalf Of Daniel Carrera Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 10:23 AM To: support at drupal.org Subject: Re: [support] CPU usage It would help if I knew what the CPU usage actually was. Perhaps my site is just very badly configured (e.g. I didn't even have caching enabled). Also, the problem is not *technically* that I'm hitting a CPU quota. What happens is that we have a lot of requests coming from the same IP address (which is used by a number of schools, which are our customers). So the firewall at the server decides that this IP is mounting a DOS attack, so it blocks the IP, hence blocking our customers. I spoke with support, and they said if the CPU usage went down, it would reduce the chances of that school IP being blocked in the future. And that's how I ended up here asking about CPU usage. Cheers, Daniel. Steve Power wrote: > ask them to move you to a less busy machine? > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Daniel Carrera > > wrote: > > Greg Knaddison wrote: > > A cheap VPS is $20/month and will likely solve the problem. > > > I am not a very good sysadmin and I hate sys admin work. I cry at > the thought of having to configure Mailman (I have no idea how) or > spam filters, or Apache, PHP and MySQL, or handle backup and recovery. > > I speak from experience. I have been the sys admin of a non-critical > Drupal site and I know I would not like to do the same for a mission > critical site. > > I chose this host as a way to get a balance between getting my fair > share of resources while having someone else do the day-to-day admin > work that I have neither interest nor aptitude for. > > > > Debugging a slow site on shared hosting is an exercise in futility. > Regardless of the value you place on your own time, it doesn't take > much time troubleshooting before a low cost shared hosting plan > becomes a false savings. > > > I did not choose the present shared host based on savings. I chose > them because they have the best reputation for excellent support and > uptime that is second to none. So far they have lived up to their > reputation. My support requests receive an intelligent and useful > response in less than 2 or 3 minutes. > > My top priority is reliability. I don't have enough confidence in my > admin skills to believe that I can achieve better reliability myself > than I can with United Hosting. > > Daniel. > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > > > > > -- > -- > -- > Steve Power > Principal Consultant > Mobile: +44 (0) 7747 027 243 > Initsix Technology and Media > -- > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] -- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] From daniel.carrera at theingots.org Thu May 14 08:19:39 2009 From: daniel.carrera at theingots.org (Daniel Carrera) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 10:19:39 +0200 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A0BD41B.7070208@theingots.org> Hi Cozzi, Thanks for your reply. I'm glad someone here understands me :-) United Hosting is much better than DH (and much more expensive too) as they do not over-sell resources and they have good support. Still, they are much cheaper than a managed dedicated server. UH has not moved me to a new server. And *in general* the site works fine. It's just this one very important IP that has problems. I am hesitant to blame UH because I know that another service (Mailfoundry) also tends to block the same IP for a similar-sounding reason. I have shell access to the server so I can run "top". And every user has his own instance of PHP, so I could configure that. But it looks like the problem is not with PHP but with MySQL. It is my hope that page caching will noticeably lower the number of MySQL requests. Cheers. Cosmo wrote: > If you have shell access to the server you can just run "top" (or I think > also "load") and that will give the machines CPU utilization. > > I had a load problem with Dreamhost when then surprised me by moving my > hosting account to a heavily loaded machine. But what made it worse was them > then danced for weeks with excuses while they attempted to find the culprit > on the machine abusing resources. And they never answered the question as to > why they moved me in the first place. So, it fell upon me to run "top" > regularly and emailing support complaining of loads in 100's and even > 1000's! (I know the average sys admin says just move to a dedicated machine > and be done with it, but during a ramp up when one can't afford it one must > deal with what they have. Plus, moving a site(s) is no picnic. Note: I am > not recommending Dreamhost any longer because of this. In fact, what I did > was move part of my hosting to Site5 where they guaranteed that server loads > would stay in single digits (which is where it's been since). They even post > their machine loads on their website for anyone to see at any time, which > felt reassuring. The only thing bad I've heard about Site5 is a post where > they cut some guy off at the knees because of server resource abuse and > wouldn't restart his account (at least that was his story, but I'll be he > was warned and chose to do nothing about it. As apposed to the DH approach > of telling the client something like "come on, stop that or we'll... --- and > then do nothing. And I'm only saying this because I can't imagine it's too > hard to figure out what resource is running away and simply killing it - of > course, I'm not a sys admin, and don't care to be, so maybe it's harder than > I think. > > Best > Cozzi > > > -----Original Message----- > From: support-bounces at drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces at drupal.org]On > Behalf Of Daniel Carrera > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 10:23 AM > To: support at drupal.org > Subject: Re: [support] CPU usage > > > It would help if I knew what the CPU usage actually was. Perhaps my site > is just very badly configured (e.g. I didn't even have caching enabled). > > Also, the problem is not *technically* that I'm hitting a CPU quota. > What happens is that we have a lot of requests coming from the same IP > address (which is used by a number of schools, which are our customers). > So the firewall at the server decides that this IP is mounting a DOS > attack, so it blocks the IP, hence blocking our customers. > > I spoke with support, and they said if the CPU usage went down, it would > reduce the chances of that school IP being blocked in the future. And > that's how I ended up here asking about CPU usage. > > Cheers, > Daniel. > > > Steve Power wrote: >> ask them to move you to a less busy machine? >> >> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Daniel Carrera >> > > wrote: >> Greg Knaddison wrote: >> >> A cheap VPS is $20/month and will likely solve the problem. >> >> >> I am not a very good sysadmin and I hate sys admin work. I cry at >> the thought of having to configure Mailman (I have no idea how) or >> spam filters, or Apache, PHP and MySQL, or handle backup and recovery. >> >> I speak from experience. I have been the sys admin of a non-critical >> Drupal site and I know I would not like to do the same for a mission >> critical site. >> >> I chose this host as a way to get a balance between getting my fair >> share of resources while having someone else do the day-to-day admin >> work that I have neither interest nor aptitude for. >> >> >> >> Debugging a slow site on shared hosting is an exercise in > futility. >> Regardless of the value you place on your own time, it doesn't > take >> much time troubleshooting before a low cost shared hosting plan >> becomes a false savings. >> >> >> I did not choose the present shared host based on savings. I chose >> them because they have the best reputation for excellent support and >> uptime that is second to none. So far they have lived up to their >> reputation. My support requests receive an intelligent and useful >> response in less than 2 or 3 minutes. >> >> My top priority is reliability. I don't have enough confidence in my >> admin skills to believe that I can achieve better reliability myself >> than I can with United Hosting. >> >> Daniel. >> >> -- >> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >> >> >> >> >> -- >> -- >> -- >> Steve Power >> Principal Consultant >> Mobile: +44 (0) 7747 027 243 >> Initsix Technology and Media >> -- >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> -- >> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > From earnie at users.sourceforge.net Thu May 14 12:11:43 2009 From: earnie at users.sourceforge.net (Earnie Boyd) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 12:11:43 +0000 Subject: [support] user connection issue In-Reply-To: <49c3c4b80905131310ye0afb86o9dcd8002ba84ef52@mail.gmail.com> References: <49c3c4b80905121244g408363d2s900956e8c8f89be7@mail.gmail.com> <01f701c9d33a$e1fb0c60$a5f12520$@com> <3861c6770905121311o121b4b4dj549c4eb50e22abc5@mail.gmail.com> <49c3c4b80905121421g10b8eb9fw26e8f1d4268b98c7@mail.gmail.com> <20090513115647.64192c3eok4l0m80@mail.siebunlimited.com> <49c3c4b80905131310ye0afb86o9dcd8002ba84ef52@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090514121143.17533ko0t4bcm1s0@mail.siebunlimited.com> Quoting Didine : > Hello Earnie, > > Thanks for the link :) > > I now have a small problem, how can i disable the contrib modules i have in > my 4.7 drupal install ? (keep in mind that i can't login to my site) so the > question how can i disable the contrib module from the database ? > I find that the best way to disable modules for upgrading is to move the contrib modules directory outside of the Drupal root to a backup directory. You are not going to need those version any longer but you might need to remember something you've forgotten about one of them. I also make use of symlinking (junction points on windows) for the root directory and install Drupal in /opt/drupal/drupal5, /opt/drupal/drupal6, etc. -- Earnie -- http://r-feed.com/ -- http://for-my-kids.com/ -- http://www.4offer.biz/ -- http://give-me-an-offer.com/ From earnie at users.sourceforge.net Thu May 14 12:17:50 2009 From: earnie at users.sourceforge.net (Earnie Boyd) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 12:17:50 +0000 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <4A0B22B6.10103@theingots.org> References: <4a0b17ab.0f98600a.6536.4000@mx.google.com> <4A0B1C46.5040600@theingots.org> <4A0B1ED4.4050107@theingots.org> <4A0B22B6.10103@theingots.org> Message-ID: <20090514121750.37920tde823xtkvk@mail.siebunlimited.com> Quoting Daniel Carrera : > Btw, we currently use Mailfoundry as our spam filter, and > Mailfoundry also has problems red-listing the IP of the school in > question. It's the same reason - a large number of emails > originating from this IP are interpreted as spam. > Is there some means for you to verify that it isn't SPAM? Is it possible to white list the IP address? Are there controls at the school to prevent its servers from being used by external users/servers for Relay, etc.? If the school's servers aren't sound then they should get that fixed. If someone in the school is abusing the schools services they should get that fixed. -- Earnie From hovercrafter at earthlink.net Thu May 14 12:24:24 2009 From: hovercrafter at earthlink.net (Jamie Holly) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 08:24:24 -0400 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <20090514121750.37920tde823xtkvk@mail.siebunlimited.com> References: <4a0b17ab.0f98600a.6536.4000@mx.google.com> <4A0B1C46.5040600@theingots.org> <4A0B1ED4.4050107@theingots.org> <4A0B22B6.10103@theingots.org> <20090514121750.37920tde823xtkvk@mail.siebunlimited.com> Message-ID: <4A0C0D78.1070202@earthlink.net> This almost sounds like a pre-fetching proxy being used by the school, such as Blue Coat. Those can be a real nightmare and are common at creating these sorts of problems. Just for an idea of what I am talking about, here's a post where a Wordpress site had a similar problem: http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/02/15/defense-contractor-attacks-homeland-stupidity/ Blue Coat is common in government and educational institutions, as well as big corporations. Jamie Holly Earnie Boyd wrote: > Quoting Daniel Carrera : > > > Btw, we currently use Mailfoundry as our spam filter, and > > Mailfoundry also has problems red-listing the IP of the school in > > question. It's the same reason - a large number of emails > > originating from this IP are interpreted as spam. > > > > Is there some means for you to verify that it isn't SPAM? Is it > possible to white list the IP address? Are there controls at the > school to prevent its servers from being used by external > users/servers for Relay, etc.? If the school's servers aren't sound > then they should get that fixed. If someone in the school is abusing > the schools services they should get that fixed. > > -- > Earnie > > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > > From daniel.carrera at theingots.org Thu May 14 12:39:41 2009 From: daniel.carrera at theingots.org (Daniel Carrera) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 14:39:41 +0200 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <4A0C0D78.1070202@earthlink.net> References: <4a0b17ab.0f98600a.6536.4000@mx.google.com> <4A0B1C46.5040600@theingots.org> <4A0B1ED4.4050107@theingots.org> <4A0B22B6.10103@theingots.org> <20090514121750.37920tde823xtkvk@mail.siebunlimited.com> <4A0C0D78.1070202@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4A0C110D.6040605@theingots.org> Hhhmm... that's interesting. I'm pretty sure that the school has a proxy but I don't know which one. I just sent an email to the school admin asking about that. Thanks. Daniel. Jamie Holly wrote: > This almost sounds like a pre-fetching proxy being used by the school, > such as Blue Coat. Those can be a real nightmare and are common at > creating these sorts of problems. Just for an idea of what I am talking > about, here's a post where a Wordpress site had a similar problem: > > http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/02/15/defense-contractor-attacks-homeland-stupidity/ > > > Blue Coat is common in government and educational institutions, as well > as big corporations. > > Jamie Holly > > > > > Earnie Boyd wrote: >> Quoting Daniel Carrera : >> >> > Btw, we currently use Mailfoundry as our spam filter, and > >> Mailfoundry also has problems red-listing the IP of the school in > >> question. It's the same reason - a large number of emails > >> originating from this IP are interpreted as spam. >> > >> >> Is there some means for you to verify that it isn't SPAM? Is it >> possible to white list the IP address? Are there controls at the >> school to prevent its servers from being used by external >> users/servers for Relay, etc.? If the school's servers aren't sound >> then they should get that fixed. If someone in the school is abusing >> the schools services they should get that fixed. >> >> -- >> Earnie >> >> >> -- >> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >> >> > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > From daniel.carrera at theingots.org Thu May 14 12:42:01 2009 From: daniel.carrera at theingots.org (Daniel Carrera) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 14:42:01 +0200 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <20090514121750.37920tde823xtkvk@mail.siebunlimited.com> References: <4a0b17ab.0f98600a.6536.4000@mx.google.com> <4A0B1C46.5040600@theingots.org> <4A0B1ED4.4050107@theingots.org> <4A0B22B6.10103@theingots.org> <20090514121750.37920tde823xtkvk@mail.siebunlimited.com> Message-ID: <4A0C1199.2040308@theingots.org> Earnie Boyd wrote: > Is there some means for you to verify that it isn't SPAM? Is it > possible to white list the IP address? I haven't thought of any way to verify that it isn't SPAM. :-( The web host has said that it is not possible to white-list the IP address. I did send an email to the school admin with other questions, like what proxy they use and how many schools share this IP. > Are there controls at the school > to prevent its servers from being used by external users/servers for > Relay, etc.? That will be my next question to the school admin. Thanks for suggesting it. > If the school's servers aren't sound then they should get > that fixed. If someone in the school is abusing the schools services > they should get that fixed. Indeed. Daniel. From daniel.carrera at theingots.org Thu May 14 13:15:15 2009 From: daniel.carrera at theingots.org (Daniel Carrera) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 15:15:15 +0200 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <4A0C1199.2040308@theingots.org> References: <4a0b17ab.0f98600a.6536.4000@mx.google.com> <4A0B1C46.5040600@theingots.org> <4A0B1ED4.4050107@theingots.org> <4A0B22B6.10103@theingots.org> <20090514121750.37920tde823xtkvk@mail.siebunlimited.com> <4A0C1199.2040308@theingots.org> Message-ID: <4A0C1963.6000801@theingots.org> Ok, I have a little more information: All the schools in Kent county, UK (pop 1.4 mil) go through the same IP address. So that's may thousand PCs. Most schools "have an ISA server on site running Websense". Websense appears to be some sort of gateway software, and I imagine that ISA is the Microsoft "Internet Security and Acceleration" Server. I have no idea if either of these products has the problems of Blue Coat. Daniel. From hovercrafter at earthlink.net Thu May 14 13:39:56 2009 From: hovercrafter at earthlink.net (Jamie Holly) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 09:39:56 -0400 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <4A0C1963.6000801@theingots.org> References: <4a0b17ab.0f98600a.6536.4000@mx.google.com> <4A0B1C46.5040600@theingots.org> <4A0B1ED4.4050107@theingots.org> <4A0B22B6.10103@theingots.org> <20090514121750.37920tde823xtkvk@mail.siebunlimited.com> <4A0C1199.2040308@theingots.org> <4A0C1963.6000801@theingots.org> Message-ID: <4A0C1F2C.8020600@earthlink.net> I know Websense does pretty much the same thing as Blue Coat in "pre scanning" sites. The best solution is to use css compression/aggregation (in D5+) and javascript compression/aggregation (D6) to reduce requests. Those are some of the files these services latch onto, and when they read the entire site they won't cache the files, but rather reread them on every page request.This will help keep the cpu usage down since Apache won't have to keep spawning connections for the files. Also any kind of caching you can get in there. There are some scenarios and modules it won't work with. For example - if your Drupal install is in a subfolder of the web root. One way to fix that is to put Drupal on its own subdomain. Also trying op-code level caching like APC is a big plus (generally a 20%+ increase). Another option is using something like cacherouter with memcache and then enabling the page caching through that. With apc+cache router+memcache, I can pump out over 200 requests per second on an old dual-core AMD server and my load never goes above 60 using D6. Of course if you are on shared hosting getting these things setup can be very difficult, if not impossible (APC and Memcache require a system admin to install and configure the modules). I would then look at going to a managed VPS (if you aren't comfortable handling your own system admin). Companies like wired tree have these services starting at around $40 (us) a month. Jamie Holly Daniel Carrera wrote: > Ok, I have a little more information: > > All the schools in Kent county, UK (pop 1.4 mil) go through the same IP > address. So that's may thousand PCs. Most schools "have an ISA server on > site running Websense". Websense appears to be some sort of gateway > software, and I imagine that ISA is the Microsoft "Internet Security and > Acceleration" Server. I have no idea if either of these products has the > problems of Blue Coat. > > Daniel. > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > > From simpsonetti at googlemail.com Thu May 14 14:17:13 2009 From: simpsonetti at googlemail.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Sebastian_G=F6decke?=) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 16:17:13 +0200 Subject: [support] Buttons. primary->secondary Message-ID: <3210398313.20090514161713@googlemail.com> Guten Tag Support Support, Hi, i want to make some buttons available only when an other button was "klicked" : primary_button_1 was klicked and opened secondary_button_1 and secondary_button_2 . How is this possible to build ? Or could this be solved with an other option ? Are there some terms, or vocabulary you could give to me ? i don't know exactly what i'm searching for. regards sebastian -- Mit freundlichen Gr??en Sebastian G?decke mailto:simpsonetti at googlemail.com From michel at ziobuddalabs.it Thu May 14 15:29:59 2009 From: michel at ziobuddalabs.it (Michel Morelli) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 17:29:59 +0200 Subject: [support] Buttons. primary->secondary In-Reply-To: <3210398313.20090514161713@googlemail.com> References: <3210398313.20090514161713@googlemail.com> Message-ID: <4A0C38F7.8020302@ziobuddalabs.it> Sebastian G?decke ha scritto: > Guten Tag Support Support, > > Hi, i want to make some buttons available only when an other button was > "klicked" : > Use JS/jQuery. onClick() event. M. -- Michel 'ZioBudda' Morelli michel at ziobuddalabs.net Consulenza sistemistica in ambito OpenSource. Sviluppo applicazioni web dinamiche (LAMP+Ajax) Telefono: 0200619074 Telefono Cell: +39-3939890025 -- Fax: +39-0291390660 http://www.ziobudda.net ICQ: 58351764 http://www.ziobuddalabs.it Skype: zio_budda http://www.ziodrupal.net MSN: michel at ziobuddalabs.it JABBER: michel at ziobuddalabs.it From adam.gurno at gmail.com Thu May 14 15:39:50 2009 From: adam.gurno at gmail.com (Adam Gurno) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 10:39:50 -0500 Subject: [support] Buttons. primary->secondary In-Reply-To: <4A0C38F7.8020302@ziobuddalabs.it> References: <3210398313.20090514161713@googlemail.com> <4A0C38F7.8020302@ziobuddalabs.it> Message-ID: The "nice menus" module will give you 'drop down' menus - it's not a click-to-view, but it might work in a similar fashion. A On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Michel Morelli wrote: > Sebastian G?decke ha scritto: >> >> Guten Tag Support Support, >> >> Hi, i want to make some buttons available only when an other button was >> "klicked" : >> > > Use JS/jQuery. onClick() event. > > M. > > -- > Michel 'ZioBudda' Morelli ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? michel at ziobuddalabs.net > Consulenza sistemistica in ambito OpenSource. > Sviluppo applicazioni web dinamiche (LAMP+Ajax) > Telefono: 0200619074 > Telefono Cell: +39-3939890025 -- ?Fax: +39-0291390660 > > http://www.ziobudda.net ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ICQ: 58351764 > ?http://www.ziobuddalabs.it ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Skype: zio_budda > http://www.ziodrupal.net ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?MSN: michel at ziobuddalabs.it > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?JABBER: > michel at ziobuddalabs.it > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -- Adam Gurno adam at gurno.com From scott at bscottholmes.com Thu May 14 15:34:44 2009 From: scott at bscottholmes.com (Scott) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 08:34:44 -0700 Subject: [support] Anonymous user does not have access to view Message-ID: <1242315284.26874.8.camel@localhost> I have created a CCK content type that contains a field defined as a node reference. The value in this field is available to logged in users but not to anonymous users. I'm defining a variable thus: $coupon = $node->field_coupon[0][view]; then later testing for a value, thus:
field_coupon[0][view] . " for " . $node->field_coupon_terms[0][value]; ?>
$coupon has a value for logged in users but not for anonymous users. I do have the nid value available ($node->field_coupon[0][nid]) so it is possible to select the referred to node by selecting from the database but I'd rather not if I don't have to. Thanks, Scott From william.darren at gmail.com Thu May 14 17:02:35 2009 From: william.darren at gmail.com (William Smith) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 13:02:35 -0400 Subject: [support] Anonymous user does not have access to view In-Reply-To: <1242315284.26874.8.camel@localhost> References: <1242315284.26874.8.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <74630ca20905141002u44310ecbj1fbd9201058fb105@mail.gmail.com> Did you check the access permissions for the underlying node type (the one being referenced) to ensure that Anonymous users have view permissions? On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Scott wrote: > > I have created a CCK content type that contains a field defined as a > node reference. The value in this field is available to logged in users > but not to anonymous users. I'm defining a variable thus: > > $coupon = $node->field_coupon[0][view]; > > then later testing for a value, thus: > > >
> field_coupon[0][view] . " for " . > $node->field_coupon_terms[0][value]; ?>
> > > $coupon has a value for logged in users but not for anonymous users. I > do have the nid value available ($node->field_coupon[0][nid]) so it is > possible to select the referred to node by selecting from the database > but I'd rather not if I don't have to. > > Thanks, Scott > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From daniel.carrera at theingots.org Thu May 14 17:51:11 2009 From: daniel.carrera at theingots.org (Daniel Carrera) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 19:51:11 +0200 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <4A0C1F2C.8020600@earthlink.net> References: <4a0b17ab.0f98600a.6536.4000@mx.google.com> <4A0B1C46.5040600@theingots.org> <4A0B1ED4.4050107@theingots.org> <4A0B22B6.10103@theingots.org> <20090514121750.37920tde823xtkvk@mail.siebunlimited.com> <4A0C1199.2040308@theingots.org> <4A0C1963.6000801@theingots.org> <4A0C1F2C.8020600@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4A0C5A0F.5040008@theingots.org> Hi all, I have new information. At the time the school was blocked, this IP was taking up 500 HTTP connections and the server is configured to support 1000. So this one IP was taking up half of the HTTP connections. 500 connections seems absurd, and so I'm convinced that there's something wrong at the school. The best hypothesis so far is the pre-scanning thing (thanks Jamie). That said, I would like to better understand what "500 HTTP connections" means. If you get a single web page that has one HTML file, two images and two CSS files, is that one HTTP connection or five? In other words, does "500 HTTP connections" equate to 500 users or 100? Also, I have no idea if 1000 HTTP connections is a reasonable configuration or not. Thanks. Daniel. Jamie Holly wrote: > I know Websense does pretty much the same thing as Blue Coat in "pre > scanning" sites. The best solution is to use css compression/aggregation > (in D5+) and javascript compression/aggregation (D6) to reduce requests. > Those are some of the files these services latch onto, and when they > read the entire site they won't cache the files, but rather reread them > on every page request.This will help keep the cpu usage down since > Apache won't have to keep spawning connections for the files. > > Also any kind of caching you can get in there. There are some scenarios > and modules it won't work with. For example - if your Drupal install is > in a subfolder of the web root. One way to fix that is to put Drupal on > its own subdomain. Also trying op-code level caching like APC is a big > plus (generally a 20%+ increase). Another option is using something like > cacherouter with memcache and then enabling the page caching through > that. With apc+cache router+memcache, I can pump out over 200 requests > per second on an old dual-core AMD server and my load never goes above > 60 using D6. From neerajad8 at gmail.com Thu May 14 17:57:25 2009 From: neerajad8 at gmail.com (Neeraja Deshpande) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 12:57:25 -0500 Subject: [support] Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in C:\www\webroot\drupal-6.10\includes\form.inc on line 1197 Message-ID: <70fe31790905141057n365f25e1h62c71b26786abc85@mail.gmail.com> Hello, I am getting this warning message: *warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in C:\www\webroot\drupal-6.10\includes\form.inc on line 1197 a*fter I upload a certain drupal6.x module It is a custom module, a certain form. It was originally written for Drupal 5.x. I converted it to Drupal6.x, and after uploading it on my local Drupal(6.10) got this warning, warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in C:\www\webroot\drupal-6.10\includes\form.inc on line 1197. Any Help would be greatly appreciated Thanks Neeraja -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steev at initsix.co.uk Thu May 14 18:14:49 2009 From: steev at initsix.co.uk (Steve Power) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 19:14:49 +0100 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <4A0C5A0F.5040008@theingots.org> References: <4a0b17ab.0f98600a.6536.4000@mx.google.com> <4A0B1C46.5040600@theingots.org> <4A0B1ED4.4050107@theingots.org> <4A0B22B6.10103@theingots.org> <20090514121750.37920tde823xtkvk@mail.siebunlimited.com> <4A0C1199.2040308@theingots.org> <4A0C1963.6000801@theingots.org> <4A0C1F2C.8020600@earthlink.net> <4A0C5A0F.5040008@theingots.org> Message-ID: <651c6d110905141114o279110a3h326b91e4eabb9fd@mail.gmail.com> If you're servicing all the schools in kent, then maybe the figures are real. But tbh, you're barking up the wrong tree. Dont take this the wrong way, but you need to run this like a popular e-commerce site, not a hobby site. If you have thousands of users then shared hosting is no longer appropriate and just wont scale as their business model relies on lots of inactive websites. Even if you could move hosts, its not really going help however you configure Drupal as the problem seems to be at an edge traffic shaping device. Thats only my opinion tho. On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Daniel Carrera < daniel.carrera at theingots.org> wrote: > Hi all, > > I have new information. At the time the school was blocked, this IP was > taking up 500 HTTP connections and the server is configured to support 1000. > So this one IP was taking up half of the HTTP connections. > > 500 connections seems absurd, and so I'm convinced that there's something > wrong at the school. The best hypothesis so far is the pre-scanning thing > (thanks Jamie). > > That said, I would like to better understand what "500 HTTP connections" > means. If you get a single web page that has one HTML file, two images and > two CSS files, is that one HTTP connection or five? In other words, does > "500 HTTP connections" equate to 500 users or 100? > > Also, I have no idea if 1000 HTTP connections is a reasonable configuration > or not. > > Thanks. > Daniel. > > > Jamie Holly wrote: > >> I know Websense does pretty much the same thing as Blue Coat in "pre >> scanning" sites. The best solution is to use css compression/aggregation (in >> D5+) and javascript compression/aggregation (D6) to reduce requests. Those >> are some of the files these services latch onto, and when they read the >> entire site they won't cache the files, but rather reread them on every page >> request.This will help keep the cpu usage down since Apache won't have to >> keep spawning connections for the files. >> >> Also any kind of caching you can get in there. There are some scenarios >> and modules it won't work with. For example - if your Drupal install is in a >> subfolder of the web root. One way to fix that is to put Drupal on its own >> subdomain. Also trying op-code level caching like APC is a big plus >> (generally a 20%+ increase). Another option is using something like >> cacherouter with memcache and then enabling the page caching through that. >> With apc+cache router+memcache, I can pump out over 200 requests per second >> on an old dual-core AMD server and my load never goes above 60 using D6. >> > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -- -- -- Steve Power Principal Consultant Mobile: +44 (0) 7747 027 243 Initsix Technology and Media -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hovercrafter at earthlink.net Thu May 14 18:27:34 2009 From: hovercrafter at earthlink.net (Jamie Holly) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 14:27:34 -0400 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <4A0C5A0F.5040008@theingots.org> References: <4a0b17ab.0f98600a.6536.4000@mx.google.com> <4A0B1C46.5040600@theingots.org> <4A0B1ED4.4050107@theingots.org> <4A0B22B6.10103@theingots.org> <20090514121750.37920tde823xtkvk@mail.siebunlimited.com> <4A0C1199.2040308@theingots.org> <4A0C1963.6000801@theingots.org> <4A0C1F2C.8020600@earthlink.net> <4A0C5A0F.5040008@theingots.org> Message-ID: <4A0C6296.6040806@earthlink.net> Daniel Carrera wrote: > > That said, I would like to better understand what "500 HTTP connections" > means. If you get a single web page that has one HTML file, two images > and two CSS files, is that one HTTP connection or five? In other words, > does "500 HTTP connections" equate to 500 users or 100? > > Each request to the server is considered a connection. So if you view the front page and you have the index file (index.php), 3 CSS files, 4 JS files and 10 images that would amount to 18 connections. That's why things like CSS and JS aggregation/compression help out so much. Also other tuning methods when it comes to themes, such as using CSS sprites to handle most of the images. Op-code caching can help a lot in this situation. Even if 10% of those connections are only for the actual Drupal page, that's still 50 hits at once. That also means 50 times that the server has to read in all the source files that makes up Drupal, then compile them over to the op-code that computers understand and execute it. > Also, I have no idea if 1000 HTTP connections is a reasonable > configuration or not. > > That's one of the biggest variables their is when it comes to server tuning. For shared hosting a setting that high is about par, though it isn't optimal. Yeah they are offering server side scripting like PHP, but they are tuned more to being a straight static server and can handle some server side requests in there. Basically its the standard operation of hosting companies when it comes to shared packages. Hosting companies do keep those settings high so they can find out who is taking up the most resources on a server. Then they have a selling point for getting people to upgrade (chalk that up as one of the things I learned working for a hosting company years ago). If the server is starting to choke at 500 connections, then ideally it would be tuned to a smaller portion of that. I would say around 300-400 connections. You also need to keep in mind things like MySQL running on the same server. Sure it can operate at 500 99% of the time, but if you end up getting fragmented tables or the query cache isn't primed then MySQL is going to need some processing power (as well as dozens of other things that run on a typical server) also and that will reduce the number of connections, so its always best to set the maximum connections on Apache to somewhere between 60 and 80% of what you see it handling, or do further benchmarking that alters site content and will invalidate things like query cache. Overall though I would say you are at the point shared hosting isn't going to cut it anymore. I doubt they will change to much to accommodate your site since they also have to consider the other sites on the machine. I would start looking at going to some other hosting solution, be it dedicated, VPS or cloud. Jamie Holly From daniel.carrera at theingots.org Thu May 14 18:40:00 2009 From: daniel.carrera at theingots.org (Daniel Carrera) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 20:40:00 +0200 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <651c6d110905141114o279110a3h326b91e4eabb9fd@mail.gmail.com> References: <4a0b17ab.0f98600a.6536.4000@mx.google.com> <4A0B1C46.5040600@theingots.org> <4A0B1ED4.4050107@theingots.org> <4A0B22B6.10103@theingots.org> <20090514121750.37920tde823xtkvk@mail.siebunlimited.com> <4A0C1199.2040308@theingots.org> <4A0C1963.6000801@theingots.org> <4A0C1F2C.8020600@earthlink.net> <4A0C5A0F.5040008@theingots.org> <651c6d110905141114o279110a3h326b91e4eabb9fd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A0C6580.9020905@theingots.org> Steve Power wrote: > If you're servicing all the schools in kent, then maybe the figures are > real. I'm not really. I don't know how many schools we have in Kent. For all I know, it could just be this one school. For one school, I would expect at *MOST* 100 simultaneous users, but more likely 30 (one classroom). How many HTTP connections would 30 kids using a website generate? I have no real sense of proportion here... > But tbh, you're barking up the wrong tree. Dont take this the > wrong way, but you need to run this like a popular e-commerce site, not > a hobby site. We would not have moved to UH if we saw this as a hobby site. In any case, I do expect to scale up the service as our needs increase. I just would like to have a better understanding of what our needs actually are (e.g. is 500 connections reasonable?). > If you have thousands of users then shared hosting is no > longer appropriate and just wont scale as their business model relies on > lots of inactive websites. I think we have about 2,000 users on the Drupal site or so. The large majority are inactive. Would you guess that kind of site merits a dedicated server? As I've said earlier, UH does not over-sell their resources (e.g. disk space and bandwidth). So the comment about their business model, while not wrong, is less true for this particular host than you might think. > Even if you could move hosts, its not > really going help however you configure Drupal as the problem seems to > be at an edge traffic shaping device. Thats only my opinion tho. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Daniel. From steev at initsix.co.uk Thu May 14 19:15:43 2009 From: steev at initsix.co.uk (Steve Power) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 20:15:43 +0100 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <4A0C6580.9020905@theingots.org> References: <4a0b17ab.0f98600a.6536.4000@mx.google.com> <4A0B1ED4.4050107@theingots.org> <4A0B22B6.10103@theingots.org> <20090514121750.37920tde823xtkvk@mail.siebunlimited.com> <4A0C1199.2040308@theingots.org> <4A0C1963.6000801@theingots.org> <4A0C1F2C.8020600@earthlink.net> <4A0C5A0F.5040008@theingots.org> <651c6d110905141114o279110a3h326b91e4eabb9fd@mail.gmail.com> <4A0C6580.9020905@theingots.org> Message-ID: <651c6d110905141215s44d397d4iee3694ccfd7181d0@mail.gmail.com> heys, i didnt mean to offend. For a dedicated server, you will be able to deliver a much better user experience as the performance will deteriorate only in accordance with your load which you can monitor and plan for. On a shared host you are at the mercy of a shared hosting company. You prob dont need a dedicated host, can get away with a good vps, but if you've got 30 users hammering the server for 30 minutes then you have spikes to deal with, which was the bane of web1.0. there are more options to deal with this now like automating ec2 instances to come up and down dependant on demand, but they are nothing to do with drupal. they are infrastructure engineering issues, which is what i was trying to say. It seems to me that the performance issue is an infrastructure, not an application, performance issue. Sorry if i came across badly. been up all day! steev On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Daniel Carrera < daniel.carrera at theingots.org> wrote: > Steve Power wrote: > >> If you're servicing all the schools in kent, then maybe the figures are >> real. >> > > I'm not really. I don't know how many schools we have in Kent. For all I > know, it could just be this one school. For one school, I would expect at > *MOST* 100 simultaneous users, but more likely 30 (one classroom). > > How many HTTP connections would 30 kids using a website generate? I have no > real sense of proportion here... > > > But tbh, you're barking up the wrong tree. Dont take this the wrong way, >> but you need to run this like a popular e-commerce site, not a hobby site. >> > > We would not have moved to UH if we saw this as a hobby site. In any case, > I do expect to scale up the service as our needs increase. I just would like > to have a better understanding of what our needs actually are (e.g. is 500 > connections reasonable?). > > > If you have thousands of users then shared hosting is no longer >> appropriate and just wont scale as their business model relies on lots of >> inactive websites. >> > > I think we have about 2,000 users on the Drupal site or so. The large > majority are inactive. Would you guess that kind of site merits a dedicated > server? > > As I've said earlier, UH does not over-sell their resources (e.g. disk > space and bandwidth). So the comment about their business model, while not > wrong, is less true for this particular host than you might think. > > Even if you could move hosts, its not really going help however you >> configure Drupal as the problem seems to be at an edge traffic shaping >> device. Thats only my opinion tho. >> > > Thank you for sharing your thoughts. > > Daniel. > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -- -- -- Steve Power Principal Consultant Mobile: +44 (0) 7747 027 243 Initsix Technology and Media -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From daniel.carrera at theingots.org Thu May 14 19:39:05 2009 From: daniel.carrera at theingots.org (Daniel Carrera) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 21:39:05 +0200 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <4A0C6296.6040806@earthlink.net> References: <4a0b17ab.0f98600a.6536.4000@mx.google.com> <4A0B1C46.5040600@theingots.org> <4A0B1ED4.4050107@theingots.org> <4A0B22B6.10103@theingots.org> <20090514121750.37920tde823xtkvk@mail.siebunlimited.com> <4A0C1199.2040308@theingots.org> <4A0C1963.6000801@theingots.org> <4A0C1F2C.8020600@earthlink.net> <4A0C5A0F.5040008@theingots.org> <4A0C6296.6040806@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4A0C7359.9060503@theingots.org> Hi Jamie, Thanks for all the information. Jamie Holly wrote: > Overall though I would say you are at the point shared hosting isn't > going to cut it anymore. I doubt they will change to much to accommodate > your site since they also have to consider the other sites on the > machine. I would start looking at going to some other hosting solution, > be it dedicated, VPS or cloud. Three questions: 1. What's cloud? 2. Does a VPS avoid the problems of a shared host? 3. Can these option handle the 500 HTTP requests? 4. Can you recommend a service for a *managed* VPS or similar that has very good support for a modest price? At the current exchange rate, we are spending about $35/month. We can up this a lot, but I think $400/month is out of our range right now. Daniel. From daniel.carrera at theingots.org Thu May 14 19:42:53 2009 From: daniel.carrera at theingots.org (Daniel Carrera) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 21:42:53 +0200 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <4A0C6296.6040806@earthlink.net> References: <4a0b17ab.0f98600a.6536.4000@mx.google.com> <4A0B1C46.5040600@theingots.org> <4A0B1ED4.4050107@theingots.org> <4A0B22B6.10103@theingots.org> <20090514121750.37920tde823xtkvk@mail.siebunlimited.com> <4A0C1199.2040308@theingots.org> <4A0C1963.6000801@theingots.org> <4A0C1F2C.8020600@earthlink.net> <4A0C5A0F.5040008@theingots.org> <4A0C6296.6040806@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4A0C743D.2000206@theingots.org> Question: I just counted and our front page probably requires 17 HTTP requests to load (several small images, two CSS files). That means that 500 HTTP requests 29 users. So if a classroom of 30 kids visits the front page at the same time, we would exceed 500 HTTP requests, right? Am I right in my reasoning? Part of me thinks that it is unlikely that 30 kids would all visit the site at precisely the same time. I figure that it's more likely that the page visits be spread out at least over a 10 second period, so maybe 50 requests is a more reasonable guess for one classroom. Is that right? Thanks. From hovercrafter at earthlink.net Thu May 14 19:54:27 2009 From: hovercrafter at earthlink.net (Jamie Holly) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 15:54:27 -0400 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <4A0C7359.9060503@theingots.org> References: <4a0b17ab.0f98600a.6536.4000@mx.google.com> <4A0B1C46.5040600@theingots.org> <4A0B1ED4.4050107@theingots.org> <4A0B22B6.10103@theingots.org> <20090514121750.37920tde823xtkvk@mail.siebunlimited.com> <4A0C1199.2040308@theingots.org> <4A0C1963.6000801@theingots.org> <4A0C1F2C.8020600@earthlink.net> <4A0C5A0F.5040008@theingots.org> <4A0C6296.6040806@earthlink.net> <4A0C7359.9060503@theingots.org> Message-ID: <4A0C76F3.3090408@earthlink.net> Daniel Carrera wrote: > > Three questions: > > 1. What's cloud? > A cloud is basically a webserver that will grow as your demand grow. A good example of that is Amazon's EC2 service: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing > 2. Does a VPS avoid the problems of a shared host? > Yeah - with a VPS you have more control over the server. You can tune it to handle the connections your software/system combination can handle. Every platform is basically different. Wordpress would lead to a different number of maximum connections than Drupal. It's basically all a part of server tuning. For some good articles on server tuning with Drupal, check out 2bits: http://2bits.com/articles/drupal-performance-tuning-and-optimization-for-large-web-sites.html > 3. Can these option handle the 500 HTTP requests? > There's no way to answer that. You have way too many variables in there - CPU, memory, bus speed, drive speed, drive configuration, network latency, operating system, what is running on the operating system, etc., etc., etc. That's why when sites grow beyond what shared hosting can offer they need to move to their own servers where they can actually tune it themselves (or have a managed service with a knowledgeable staff that can do it for you). > 4. Can you recommend a service for a *managed* VPS or similar that has > very good support for a modest price? > > At the current exchange rate, we are spending about $35/month. We can up > this a lot, but I think $400/month is out of our range right now. > Not really. I pretty much recommend people go with a bigger service like RackSpace, which has a very solid reputation, but also comes with a steep price tag (of course the old saying "you get what you pay for" comes into play here). One suggestion would be to go with an unmanaged host and look at bringing in another company to handle your tuning of the site and whatever management you might need (companies such as Acquia or 2bits). That might be a more cost effective route overall. Jamie Holly From didinux at gmail.com Thu May 14 20:51:57 2009 From: didinux at gmail.com (Didine) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 22:51:57 +0200 Subject: [support] user connection issue In-Reply-To: <20090514121143.17533ko0t4bcm1s0@mail.siebunlimited.com> References: <49c3c4b80905121244g408363d2s900956e8c8f89be7@mail.gmail.com> <01f701c9d33a$e1fb0c60$a5f12520$@com> <3861c6770905121311o121b4b4dj549c4eb50e22abc5@mail.gmail.com> <49c3c4b80905121421g10b8eb9fw26e8f1d4268b98c7@mail.gmail.com> <20090513115647.64192c3eok4l0m80@mail.siebunlimited.com> <49c3c4b80905131310ye0afb86o9dcd8002ba84ef52@mail.gmail.com> <20090514121143.17533ko0t4bcm1s0@mail.siebunlimited.com> Message-ID: <49c3c4b80905141351s141fc2a7yabf7aee8519f56ba@mail.gmail.com> I did the upgrade but now i have some warnings like this one : * Warning*: Unknown column 'language' in 'where clause' query: SELECT src FROM url_alias WHERE dst = 'node' AND language IN('fr', '') ORDER BY language DESC in * /home/didinux/public_html/development/php/lm/includes/database.mysql.inc* on line *128 *-- Didine Wayde. On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Earnie Boyd wrote: > Quoting Didine : > > Hello Earnie, >> >> Thanks for the link :) >> >> I now have a small problem, how can i disable the contrib modules i have >> in >> my 4.7 drupal install ? 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URL: From aurfalien at gmail.com Thu May 14 21:03:20 2009 From: aurfalien at gmail.com (aurfalien at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 14:03:20 -0700 Subject: [support] ldap provivioning samba module Message-ID: Hi all, I'm trying to use this module for the uidNumber attribute as the standard ldap provisioning module doesn't seem to support this. While I can use the ldap provisioning module as long as I insert a line in the Basic LDAP attributes window to look like this; uidNumber: 3000 I can't seem to have it auto generated. Can any one shed some light on how I can have the uidNumber attribute generated by Drupal or how to properly use the ldap samba module? I am using the posixAccount object class that needs a uidNumber attribute. I am using Drupal 5.12 and have it talking with my OpenLDAP and can add/remove users via Drupal as long as I manually add uidNumber: 3000 for example but I would like this automatic. I'm even unsure if I am explaining this correctly? Thanks in advance, - aurfalien From tloud365 at gmail.com Thu May 14 23:44:17 2009 From: tloud365 at gmail.com (T L) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 19:44:17 -0400 Subject: [support] Pushbutton theme, modules & CSS - multiple style sheets? In-Reply-To: References: <90f7ebd10905130956q6cb7d9c2ia107d473afc0825d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: If you install a web browser plugin, like firebug for firefox; you can click 'inspect' and hover over an html element--the bottom side menu will tell you what styles are applied and overridden as well as the file supplying them. Additionally, you can edit the css on the fly. Cheers, Tim On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Margie Roswell wrote: > Check > admin/settings/performance > To see if > "Aggregate and compress CSS files" > is enabled. If so, disable it. You can re-enable when you're done editing > the CSS files. > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Jean Gazis wrote: > >> I'm adapting a site based on the pushbutton theme and am getting stuck in >> the CSS. It looks like instead of using several style sheets (style.css plus >> system.css etc.), they are all being aggregated in a temporary .css file, >> with a name like "770fjlp987d67ni9y773po6494.css", so when I go to a new >> page, the css file changes. >> >> How can I edit the correct CSS files? >> >> ................................................................................. >> Jean Gazis >> www.jeangazis.com >> www.boxofrain.com >> 212-937-7654 >> >> "They say that time changes things, but you actually have to change them >> yourself." ? 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Name: css-help.gif Type: image/gif Size: 331341 bytes Desc: not available URL: From scott at bscottholmes.com Fri May 15 07:14:28 2009 From: scott at bscottholmes.com (Scott) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 00:14:28 -0700 Subject: [support] Anonymous user does not have access to view In-Reply-To: <74630ca20905141002u44310ecbj1fbd9201058fb105@mail.gmail.com> References: <1242315284.26874.8.camel@localhost> <74630ca20905141002u44310ecbj1fbd9201058fb105@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1242371668.30191.7.camel@localhost> Anonymous users can view the referenced node when called directly, ie /node/20. The problem is that the array element [view] is not populated for anonymous users. Here is a section of the output from print_r($node) for anonymous user: [field_coupon] => Array ( [0] => Array ( [nid] => 20 [view] => ) ) And for a logged in user: [field_coupon] => Array ( [0] => Array ( [nid] => 20 [view] => Ekizian Coupon ) ) This is true for all the fields defined for this content type, not just the ones used for node reference. On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 13:02 -0400, William Smith wrote: > Did you check the access permissions for the underlying node type (the > one being referenced) to ensure that Anonymous users have view > permissions? > > On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Scott > wrote: > > I have created a CCK content type that contains a field > defined as a > node reference. The value in this field is available to logged > in users > but not to anonymous users. I'm defining a variable thus: > > $coupon = $node->field_coupon[0][view]; > > then later testing for a value, thus: > > >
> field_coupon[0][view] . " for > " . > $node->field_coupon_terms[0][value]; ?>
> > > $coupon has a value for logged in users but not for anonymous > users. I > do have the nid value available ($node->field_coupon[0][nid]) > so it is > possible to select the referred to node by selecting from the > database > but I'd rather not if I don't have to. > > Thanks, Scott > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] From marolijo at yahoo.es Fri May 15 08:03:03 2009 From: marolijo at yahoo.es (Marolijo) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 10:03:03 +0200 Subject: [support] Hide submit and do an onchange submit on forms In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Can you post some example? I need to retrieve a taxonomy list and passa as argument to a view. Thank's! Pol Maresma Enginyer T?cnic en Inform?tica de Gesti? PolNetwork.com / Serveis d'Internet msn: marolijo 2009/5/13 Adam Gurno > I needed something similar, so I created my own form and used > Javascript to handle the onchange() events from each of the members. > > A > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 5:01 AM, Marolijo wrote: > > Hello, how cai I do it? > > I need a drupal form to be sent without the submit button. > > Thank's! > > > > -- > > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > > > > > > -- > Adam Gurno > adam at gurno.com > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From entuland at gmail.com Fri May 15 09:02:56 2009 From: entuland at gmail.com (Francesco) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 11:02:56 +0200 Subject: [support] Anonymous user does not have access to view In-Reply-To: <1242371668.30191.7.camel@localhost> References: <1242315284.26874.8.camel@localhost> <74630ca20905141002u44310ecbj1fbd9201058fb105@mail.gmail.com> <1242371668.30191.7.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <5803c9860905150202n314487d2m9f272b500228e167@mail.gmail.com> 2009/5/15 Scott : > Anonymous users can view the referenced node when called directly, > ie /node/20. ?The problem is that the array element [view] is not > populated for anonymous users. Hi Scott, looks like you have enabled field-level access permissions. Check in admin/build/modules if you have "content permissions" enabled, in the CCK section. If so, you can either disable it (if you don't need to limit access on a per-field level) or enable them individually in admin/user/permissions. Kind regards, Francesco From daniel.carrera at theingots.org Fri May 15 09:55:31 2009 From: daniel.carrera at theingots.org (Daniel Carrera) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 11:55:31 +0200 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <651c6d110905141215s44d397d4iee3694ccfd7181d0@mail.gmail.com> References: <4a0b17ab.0f98600a.6536.4000@mx.google.com> <4A0B1ED4.4050107@theingots.org> <4A0B22B6.10103@theingots.org> <20090514121750.37920tde823xtkvk@mail.siebunlimited.com> <4A0C1199.2040308@theingots.org> <4A0C1963.6000801@theingots.org> <4A0C1F2C.8020600@earthlink.net> <4A0C5A0F.5040008@theingots.org> <651c6d110905141114o279110a3h326b91e4eabb9fd@mail.gmail.com> <4A0C6580.9020905@theingots.org> <651c6d110905141215s44d397d4iee3694ccfd7181d0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A0D3C13.3040900@theingots.org> Steve Power wrote: > heys, i didnt mean to offend. I wasn't offended. Sorry if I gave that impression. Email is really bad at conveying emotion, you know. Thank you for taking the time to help me. I appreciate your input. > You prob dont need a > dedicated host, can get away with a good vps, but if you've got 30 users > hammering the server for 30 minutes then you have spikes to deal with, > which was the bane of web1.0. Can you recommend a managed VPS that might be closer to my preferred price range? If we get something unmanaged we are likely to run into a whole other different set of problems. > It seems to me that the performance issue is an infrastructure, not an > application, performance issue. I took a closer look at the site and it appears that loading the front page requires in the order of 30 HTTP requests. That seems like way too much. Do you still feel its all infrastructure, or should we blame the website a bit too? Daniel. From writeme at nikhilkala.com Fri May 15 09:57:53 2009 From: writeme at nikhilkala.com (Nikhil Kala) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 15:27:53 +0530 Subject: [support] Photo gallery problem with theme... Message-ID: <9e5eee6b0905150257u3d1868afl709d93a5047dab86@mail.gmail.com> Hello All, I have a small site running drupal 5.x . Recently I have changed the them of the site and added the photo gallery modules in that. But I am not able to view the photos uploaded in the gallery. I am able to upload and view the thumbnail of the photos. If I click on any photo it only enlarge but not able to see. the details related to photo I can able view. I switch back to basic theme and checked the gallery then the photo gallery is working fine with all the functionality. Can any one tell me how I can solve this problem? Thanks in Advance, Nikhil Kala -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From daniel.carrera at theingots.org Fri May 15 10:06:51 2009 From: daniel.carrera at theingots.org (Daniel Carrera) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 12:06:51 +0200 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <4A0D3C13.3040900@theingots.org> References: <4a0b17ab.0f98600a.6536.4000@mx.google.com> <4A0B1ED4.4050107@theingots.org> <4A0B22B6.10103@theingots.org> <20090514121750.37920tde823xtkvk@mail.siebunlimited.com> <4A0C1199.2040308@theingots.org> <4A0C1963.6000801@theingots.org> <4A0C1F2C.8020600@earthlink.net> <4A0C5A0F.5040008@theingots.org> <651c6d110905141114o279110a3h326b91e4eabb9fd@mail.gmail.com> <4A0C6580.9020905@theingots.org> <651c6d110905141215s44d397d4iee3694ccfd7181d0@mail.gmail.com> <4A0D3C13.3040900@theingots.org> Message-ID: <4A0D3EBB.3040707@theingots.org> Hello all. First of all, I'd like to thank everyone or their help so far. My website is likely to be very low traffic most of the time, but with a few sharp spikes. Most of the year it's quiet, but close to the end of the school year it gets much busier. Most of the day it is quiet, but when one classroom starts using the site, I have 30 new users. Is this site a good candidate for cloud computing, such as Amazon's EC2 service? My very limited understanding of EC2 is that it is "pay per use", so when the site is quiet we pay little and when there's a spike the service expands and we pay more. Is that correct? Is that how cloud computing works? Do you think that the cost of EC2 for us might be somewhere in between a shared host and a dedicated host? I was thinking that EC2 or similar might be a way for us to bridge the gap between a shared host and a dedicated host. But I'm not sure. Thanks again. Daniel. From daniel.carrera at theingots.org Fri May 15 10:21:28 2009 From: daniel.carrera at theingots.org (Daniel Carrera) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 12:21:28 +0200 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <4A0C76F3.3090408@earthlink.net> References: <4a0b17ab.0f98600a.6536.4000@mx.google.com> <4A0B1C46.5040600@theingots.org> <4A0B1ED4.4050107@theingots.org> <4A0B22B6.10103@theingots.org> <20090514121750.37920tde823xtkvk@mail.siebunlimited.com> <4A0C1199.2040308@theingots.org> <4A0C1963.6000801@theingots.org> <4A0C1F2C.8020600@earthlink.net> <4A0C5A0F.5040008@theingots.org> <4A0C6296.6040806@earthlink.net> <4A0C7359.9060503@theingots.org> <4A0C76F3.3090408@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4A0D4228.3070105@theingots.org> Jamie Holly wrote: > Not really. I pretty much recommend people go with a bigger service like > RackSpace, which has a very solid reputation, but also comes with a > steep price tag (of course the old saying "you get what you pay for" > comes into play here). How about Mosso? (www.mosso.com) A cloud service owned by RackSpace. But if I understand their pricing correctly, the service starts at $350/mo. I hope I'm wrong. If you look at http://www.mosso.com/cloud.jsp it says: "Step Two: Watch it Scale ... * Scale your bandwidth Starts at 500GB/mo. As much as you need for 25? per GB * Scale your storage Starts at 50GB/mo. As much as you need for 50? per GB * Scale your compute Starts at 10,000 compute cycles/mo. As many as you need for 1? per compute cycle" So we have a minimum of: 500*0.25 + 50*0.25 + 10000*0.01 = $350/mo. :-( Honestly, our site would do fine with 5GB of disk space and 10GB of bandwidth. Daniel. From steev at initsix.co.uk Fri May 15 10:29:15 2009 From: steev at initsix.co.uk (Steve Power) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 11:29:15 +0100 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <4A0D4228.3070105@theingots.org> References: <4a0b17ab.0f98600a.6536.4000@mx.google.com> <20090514121750.37920tde823xtkvk@mail.siebunlimited.com> <4A0C1199.2040308@theingots.org> <4A0C1963.6000801@theingots.org> <4A0C1F2C.8020600@earthlink.net> <4A0C5A0F.5040008@theingots.org> <4A0C6296.6040806@earthlink.net> <4A0C7359.9060503@theingots.org> <4A0C76F3.3090408@earthlink.net> <4A0D4228.3070105@theingots.org> Message-ID: <651c6d110905150329m587ec1dcvc489b5a63c1d0724@mail.gmail.com> EC2 can be viewed in the same way as a dedicated host in terms of management. i.e. you have to be able to run the servers and OS like you would a dedicated host. bytemark.co.uk are the only people i can recommend for a vps, but again once you start paying for engineers to do stuff, you're looking at similar prices to rackspace. On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Daniel Carrera < daniel.carrera at theingots.org> wrote: > Jamie Holly wrote: > >> Not really. I pretty much recommend people go with a bigger service like >> RackSpace, which has a very solid reputation, but also comes with a steep >> price tag (of course the old saying "you get what you pay for" comes into >> play here). >> > > How about Mosso? (www.mosso.com) A cloud service owned by RackSpace. But > if I understand their pricing correctly, the service starts at $350/mo. I > hope I'm wrong. If you look at http://www.mosso.com/cloud.jsp it says: > > "Step Two: Watch it Scale > ... > * Scale your bandwidth > Starts at 500GB/mo. As much as you need for 25? per GB > * Scale your storage > Starts at 50GB/mo. As much as you need for 50? per GB > * Scale your compute > Starts at 10,000 compute cycles/mo. As many as you need for 1? per compute > cycle" > > > So we have a minimum of: 500*0.25 + 50*0.25 + 10000*0.01 = $350/mo. > > :-( > > Honestly, our site would do fine with 5GB of disk space and 10GB of > bandwidth. > > Daniel. > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -- -- -- Steve Power Principal Consultant Mobile: +44 (0) 7747 027 243 Initsix Technology and Media -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steev at initsix.co.uk Fri May 15 10:35:31 2009 From: steev at initsix.co.uk (Steve Power) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 11:35:31 +0100 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <651c6d110905150329m587ec1dcvc489b5a63c1d0724@mail.gmail.com> References: <4a0b17ab.0f98600a.6536.4000@mx.google.com> <4A0C1199.2040308@theingots.org> <4A0C1963.6000801@theingots.org> <4A0C1F2C.8020600@earthlink.net> <4A0C5A0F.5040008@theingots.org> <4A0C6296.6040806@earthlink.net> <4A0C7359.9060503@theingots.org> <4A0C76F3.3090408@earthlink.net> <4A0D4228.3070105@theingots.org> <651c6d110905150329m587ec1dcvc489b5a63c1d0724@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <651c6d110905150335j47d1ba8cs33eaa7dfeb616cd4@mail.gmail.com> you could always try acquia On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Steve Power wrote: > EC2 can be viewed in the same way as a dedicated host in terms of > management. i.e. you have to be able to run the servers and OS like you > would a dedicated host. bytemark.co.uk are the only people i can recommend > for a vps, but again once you start paying for engineers to do stuff, you're > looking at similar prices to rackspace. > > > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Daniel Carrera < > daniel.carrera at theingots.org> wrote: > >> Jamie Holly wrote: >> >>> Not really. I pretty much recommend people go with a bigger service like >>> RackSpace, which has a very solid reputation, but also comes with a steep >>> price tag (of course the old saying "you get what you pay for" comes into >>> play here). >>> >> >> How about Mosso? (www.mosso.com) A cloud service owned by RackSpace. But >> if I understand their pricing correctly, the service starts at $350/mo. I >> hope I'm wrong. If you look at http://www.mosso.com/cloud.jsp it says: >> >> "Step Two: Watch it Scale >> ... >> * Scale your bandwidth >> Starts at 500GB/mo. As much as you need for 25? per GB >> * Scale your storage >> Starts at 50GB/mo. As much as you need for 50? per GB >> * Scale your compute >> Starts at 10,000 compute cycles/mo. As many as you need for 1? per >> compute cycle" >> >> >> So we have a minimum of: 500*0.25 + 50*0.25 + 10000*0.01 = $350/mo. >> >> :-( >> >> Honestly, our site would do fine with 5GB of disk space and 10GB of >> bandwidth. >> >> Daniel. >> >> -- >> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >> > > > > -- > -- > -- > Steve Power > Principal Consultant > Mobile: +44 (0) 7747 027 243 > Initsix Technology and Media > -- > -- -- -- Steve Power Principal Consultant Mobile: +44 (0) 7747 027 243 Initsix Technology and Media -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From daniel.carrera at theingots.org Fri May 15 10:38:25 2009 From: daniel.carrera at theingots.org (Daniel Carrera) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 12:38:25 +0200 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <651c6d110905150335j47d1ba8cs33eaa7dfeb616cd4@mail.gmail.com> References: <4a0b17ab.0f98600a.6536.4000@mx.google.com> <4A0C1199.2040308@theingots.org> <4A0C1963.6000801@theingots.org> <4A0C1F2C.8020600@earthlink.net> <4A0C5A0F.5040008@theingots.org> <4A0C6296.6040806@earthlink.net> <4A0C7359.9060503@theingots.org> <4A0C76F3.3090408@earthlink.net> <4A0D4228.3070105@theingots.org> <651c6d110905150329m587ec1dcvc489b5a63c1d0724@mail.gmail.com> <651c6d110905150335j47d1ba8cs33eaa7dfeb616cd4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A0D4621.1030105@theingots.org> Steve Power wrote: > you could always try acquia What is acquia? Sorry if you already told me and I missed it. From victorkane at gmail.com Fri May 15 10:48:56 2009 From: victorkane at gmail.com (Victor Kane) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 07:48:56 -0300 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <4A0D4621.1030105@theingots.org> References: <4a0b17ab.0f98600a.6536.4000@mx.google.com> <4A0C1F2C.8020600@earthlink.net> <4A0C5A0F.5040008@theingots.org> <4A0C6296.6040806@earthlink.net> <4A0C7359.9060503@theingots.org> <4A0C76F3.3090408@earthlink.net> <4A0D4228.3070105@theingots.org> <651c6d110905150329m587ec1dcvc489b5a63c1d0724@mail.gmail.com> <651c6d110905150335j47d1ba8cs33eaa7dfeb616cd4@mail.gmail.com> <4A0D4621.1030105@theingots.org> Message-ID: See http://acquia.com/ Specifically, they provide a commercially supported Drupal distribution of Drupal core and contributed modules, as well as monitoring, spam reduction, search and other special services. Victor Kane http://awebfactory.com.ar http://projectflowandtracker.com On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 7:38 AM, Daniel Carrera wrote: > Steve Power wrote: >> >> you could always try acquia > > What is acquia? Sorry if you already told me and I missed it. > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > From daniel.carrera at theingots.org Fri May 15 10:59:24 2009 From: daniel.carrera at theingots.org (Daniel Carrera) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 12:59:24 +0200 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: References: <4a0b17ab.0f98600a.6536.4000@mx.google.com> <4A0C1F2C.8020600@earthlink.net> <4A0C5A0F.5040008@theingots.org> <4A0C6296.6040806@earthlink.net> <4A0C7359.9060503@theingots.org> <4A0C76F3.3090408@earthlink.net> <4A0D4228.3070105@theingots.org> <651c6d110905150329m587ec1dcvc489b5a63c1d0724@mail.gmail.com> <651c6d110905150335j47d1ba8cs33eaa7dfeb616cd4@mail.gmail.com> <4A0D4621.1030105@theingots.org> Message-ID: <4A0D4B0C.4020905@theingots.org> Victor Kane wrote: > See http://acquia.com/ > > Specifically, they provide a commercially supported Drupal > distribution of Drupal core and contributed modules, as well as > monitoring, spam reduction, search and other special services. Ok. But they don't provide hosting, right? Thanks. Daniel. From hans.rossel at koba.be Fri May 15 11:00:48 2009 From: hans.rossel at koba.be (KOBA | Hans Rossel) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 13:00:48 +0200 Subject: [support] Photo gallery problem with theme... In-Reply-To: <9e5eee6b0905150257u3d1868afl709d93a5047dab86@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e5eee6b0905150257u3d1868afl709d93a5047dab86@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <51a9b8330905150400k3ad30ccbtf59386bf0f573cb8@mail.gmail.com> Well you give extremely little information here: which gallery module? Which theme? But its clearly a difference which is in the theme so you have to compare /themes/garland with /sites/all/themes/otheretheme. First clear cache at admin performance, then compare page.tpl.php (especially check if print closure is at the bottom), then compare template.php and the other files if it still doesnt work. Hans Www.koba.be 2009/5/15, Nikhil Kala : > Hello All, > > I have a small site running drupal 5.x . Recently I have changed the them of > the site and added the > photo gallery modules in that. > > But I am not able to view the photos uploaded in the gallery. I am able to > upload and view the thumbnail of the photos. If I click on any photo it only > enlarge but not able to see. the details related to photo I can able view. > > I switch back to basic theme and checked the gallery then the photo gallery > is working fine with all the functionality. > > Can any one tell me how I can solve this problem? > > > > Thanks in Advance, > Nikhil Kala > -- Hans Rossel KOBA Webdevelopment Kerkstraat 228 9050 Gent 09-334.52.60 0472-79.32.16 www.koba.be info at koba.be From entuland at gmail.com Fri May 15 11:18:07 2009 From: entuland at gmail.com (Francesco) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 13:18:07 +0200 Subject: [support] Is it mandatory to run updates if only trusted people can create content and comments? Message-ID: <5803c9860905150418n1ea8b461qd10e9b9b4d17641a@mail.gmail.com> Hi everybody, some questions which I wasn't able to find an answer to, searching the web and the Drupal site (as I mentioned before, the link for searching the support list archives is broken, hence I couldn't search there). Some of the sites I'm creating do not give to users the ability to create content, nor to comment anything. Only administrators can create content and post comments, as well as creating new accounts (but those sites will have just a handful of users in any case, the administrators themselves). So the question is: in such a scenario, is it mandatory to run updates - especially security updates? My knowledge about security issues borders the zero line, hence I really don't know how much risk I would be taking by not running updates regularly - by the way, regular backups are a rule for me in any case, moreover because I could break the site myself ;-) Imagine now I give anonymous users the ability to comment, while keeping all content creation permissions for administrators, would then an outdated site still be safe? And finally, since I will be using the Views module, are Views arguments an entry point for attacks, forcing me to run updates? Thank you for your attention, kind regards, Francesco From victorkane at gmail.com Fri May 15 11:22:13 2009 From: victorkane at gmail.com (Victor Kane) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 08:22:13 -0300 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <4A0D4B0C.4020905@theingots.org> References: <4a0b17ab.0f98600a.6536.4000@mx.google.com> <4A0C6296.6040806@earthlink.net> <4A0C7359.9060503@theingots.org> <4A0C76F3.3090408@earthlink.net> <4A0D4228.3070105@theingots.org> <651c6d110905150329m587ec1dcvc489b5a63c1d0724@mail.gmail.com> <651c6d110905150335j47d1ba8cs33eaa7dfeb616cd4@mail.gmail.com> <4A0D4621.1030105@theingots.org> <4A0D4B0C.4020905@theingots.org> Message-ID: I think they will be. There are several plans in various companies for special Drupal hosting. On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 7:59 AM, Daniel Carrera wrote: > Victor Kane wrote: >> >> See http://acquia.com/ >> >> Specifically, they provide a commercially supported Drupal >> distribution of Drupal core and contributed modules, as well as >> monitoring, spam reduction, search and other special services. > > Ok. But they don't provide hosting, right? > > Thanks. > Daniel. > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > From nicolast at logis.com.mx Fri May 15 13:16:48 2009 From: nicolast at logis.com.mx (Nicolas Tostin) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 08:16:48 -0500 Subject: [support] CPU usage References: <4a0b17ab.0f98600a.6536.4000@mx.google.com> <4A0B1C46.5040600@theingots.org> <4A0B1ED4.4050107@theingots.org> <4A0B22B6.10103@theingots.org> <20090514121750.37920tde823xtkvk@mail.siebunlimited.com> <4A0C1199.2040308@theingots.org> <4A0C1963.6000801@theingots.org> <4A0C1F2C.8020600@earthlink.net> <4A0C5A0F.5040008@theingots.org> <4A0C6296.6040806@earthlink.net> <4A0C7359.9060503@theingots.org><4A0C76F3.3090408@earthlink.net> <4A0D4228.3070105@theingots.org> Message-ID: <005a01c9d55f$67b786a0$b400a8c0@Nikko> Regarding Mosso, I'll understand their basic plan will fit you ? It's 50GB HD, 500GB Bandwith and 10000 compute cycles for $100, so it looks good for your usage ? Regarding Acquia, they will provide hosting later this year with Fields and Garden, see http://acquia.com/community/projects/acquia-2009-roadmap Bests ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Carrera" To: Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 5:21 AM Subject: Re: [support] CPU usage Jamie Holly wrote: > Not really. I pretty much recommend people go with a bigger service like > RackSpace, which has a very solid reputation, but also comes with a > steep price tag (of course the old saying "you get what you pay for" > comes into play here). How about Mosso? (www.mosso.com) A cloud service owned by RackSpace. But if I understand their pricing correctly, the service starts at $350/mo. I hope I'm wrong. If you look at http://www.mosso.com/cloud.jsp it says: "Step Two: Watch it Scale ... * Scale your bandwidth Starts at 500GB/mo. As much as you need for 25? per GB * Scale your storage Starts at 50GB/mo. As much as you need for 50? per GB * Scale your compute Starts at 10,000 compute cycles/mo. As many as you need for 1? per compute cycle" So we have a minimum of: 500*0.25 + 50*0.25 + 10000*0.01 = $350/mo. :-( Honestly, our site would do fine with 5GB of disk space and 10GB of bandwidth. Daniel. -- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] From nav18scse at gmail.com Fri May 15 14:05:07 2009 From: nav18scse at gmail.com (navaneethakrishnan Renganathan) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 19:35:07 +0530 Subject: [support] Support Message-ID: <7d3f4d1d0905150705u49fb6032o36b16f74de36b446@mail.gmail.com> When I log the queries in the file , the following queries are logged. SELECT CASE WHEN status=1 THEN 0 ELSE 1 END FROM access WHERE type = 'host' AND LOWER('192.1') LIKE LOWER(mask) ORDER BY status DESC LIMIT 0, 1 SELECT u.*, s.* FROM users u INNER JOIN sessions s ON u.uid = s.uid WHERE s.sid = '6gstecc207lcf7hhekov96vf87' SELECT data, created, headers, expire, serialized FROM cache WHERE cid = 'variables' SELECT data, created, headers, expire, serialized FROM cache_page WHERE cid = 'http://example/' SELECT name, filename, throttle FROM system WHERE type = 'module' AND status = 1 AND bootstrap = 1 ORDER BY weight ASC, filename ASC *SELECT rid, redirect, query, fragment, type FROM path_redirect WHERE path = '' OR path = '' SELECT rid, redirect, query, fragment, type FROM path_redirect WHERE path = '' OR path = ''* SELECT sid FROM sessions WHERE sid = '6gstecc207lcf7hhekov96vf87' UPDATE sessions SET uid = 0, cache = 0, hostname = '192.1', session = 'section|s:6:\"nation\";image_captcha|a:0:{}captcha|a:1:{s:12:\"comment_form\";a:7:{s:32:\"4e963533774bca6da60cc482b68512e6\";s:4:\"Sm6h\";s:7:\"success\";b:0;s:32:\"55a75bc562c8bf85e36a5039d0de2dda\";s:4:\"h4G6\";s:32:\"c001e96beada3e9d283f23abe15efdd6\";s:4:\"68KW\";s:32:\"c00fc8e1593ccd2afe87f6754b4ea4ef\";s:4:\"ita7\";s:32:\"41f5fcb52380e9e9c83f17247d9056b8\";s:4:\"hYjt\";s:32:\"ca8b64a9918fc313f5557edcdba6c696\";s:4:\"thhW\";}}', timestamp = 1242391468 WHERE sid = '6gstecc207lcf7hhekov96vf87' why the highlighted queries repeated twice. 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URL: From daniel.carrera at theingots.org Fri May 15 14:08:07 2009 From: daniel.carrera at theingots.org (Daniel Carrera) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 16:08:07 +0200 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <005a01c9d55f$67b786a0$b400a8c0@Nikko> References: <4a0b17ab.0f98600a.6536.4000@mx.google.com> <4A0B1C46.5040600@theingots.org> <4A0B1ED4.4050107@theingots.org> <4A0B22B6.10103@theingots.org> <20090514121750.37920tde823xtkvk@mail.siebunlimited.com> <4A0C1199.2040308@theingots.org> <4A0C1963.6000801@theingots.org> <4A0C1F2C.8020600@earthlink.net> <4A0C5A0F.5040008@theingots.org> <4A0C6296.6040806@earthlink.net> <4A0C7359.9060503@theingots.org><4A0C76F3.3090408@earthlink.net> <4A0D4228.3070105@theingots.org> <005a01c9d55f$67b786a0$b400a8c0@Nikko> Message-ID: <4A0D7747.4080806@theingots.org> Nicolas Tostin wrote: > Regarding Mosso, I'll understand their basic plan will fit you ? > It's 50GB HD, 500GB Bandwith and 10000 compute cycles for $100, so it looks > good for your usage ? I must have made a mistake. I calculated the cost and I got a very different value: 500*0.25 + 50*0.25 + 10000*0.01 = $350/mo. Where did I go wrong? > Regarding Acquia, they will provide hosting later this year with Fields and > Garden, see http://acquia.com/community/projects/acquia-2009-roadmap Thanks. I've spoken with my employer, and he actually likes the managed dedicated server idea after all. It looks like the ?200-300/mo I quoted him doesn't sound so bad to him. So we might go that route. Daniel. From brettev at gmail.com Fri May 15 14:30:49 2009 From: brettev at gmail.com (Brett Evanson) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 08:30:49 -0600 Subject: [support] Using hook_views_pre_build Message-ID: <972255370905150730u17da6258s24f32dc1def13f78@mail.gmail.com> I am trying to do a custom sort on a view, and I've read that I should be using the hook_views_pre_build. I have my module with the code below, but it isn't doing anything. I've tried to print, drupal_set_message, and exit, and it doesn't look like it's getting run. I've built lots of modules before, so I am confident the module is set up right, but I've never used this hook. Just as a little bit of extra background, I have a video content type, and it is related to a company. I want to sort the video listing so videos whose related companies are published show up before the companies that aren't published. Is this even the right way to do it? -- Brett Evanson brettev at gmail.com From nicolast at logis.com.mx Fri May 15 15:02:22 2009 From: nicolast at logis.com.mx (Nicolas Tostin) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 10:02:22 -0500 Subject: [support] CPU usage References: <4a0b17ab.0f98600a.6536.4000@mx.google.com> <4A0B1C46.5040600@theingots.org> <4A0B1ED4.4050107@theingots.org> <4A0B22B6.10103@theingots.org> <20090514121750.37920tde823xtkvk@mail.siebunlimited.com> <4A0C1199.2040308@theingots.org> <4A0C1963.6000801@theingots.org> <4A0C1F2C.8020600@earthlink.net> <4A0C5A0F.5040008@theingots.org> <4A0C6296.6040806@earthlink.net> <4A0C7359.9060503@theingots.org><4A0C76F3.3090408@earthlink.net> <4A0D4228.3070105@theingots.org><005a01c9d55f$67b786a0$b400a8c0@Nikko> <4A0D7747.4080806@theingots.org> Message-ID: <00a901c9d56e$26ed1400$b400a8c0@Nikko> > > Regarding Mosso, I'll understand their basic plan will fit you ? > > It's 50GB HD, 500GB Bandwith and 10000 compute cycles for $100, so it looks > > good for your usage ? > > I must have made a mistake. I calculated the cost and I got a very > different value: > > 500*0.25 + 50*0.25 + 10000*0.01 = $350/mo. > > Where did I go wrong? Don't know where you got these numbers, see their pricing page http://www.mosso.com/pricing.jsp Start at $100, extra GB of storage is $0.5, extra GB of bandwith is $0.25 What I'm not really sure is how the compute cycle will stand, for exemple, I'm building a web site which abuse of views, and some dashboard admin page generates hundreds of queries... I know I should optimize this but the optimization will cost me a lot of time so if it doesn't hurt so much the bill it's ok... But I think you'll have to evaluate this to be sure not to explode the compute cycles in Mosso. From scott at bscottholmes.com Fri May 15 15:24:50 2009 From: scott at bscottholmes.com (Scott) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 08:24:50 -0700 Subject: [support] Anonymous user does not have access to view In-Reply-To: <5803c9860905150202n314487d2m9f272b500228e167@mail.gmail.com> References: <1242315284.26874.8.camel@localhost> <74630ca20905141002u44310ecbj1fbd9201058fb105@mail.gmail.com> <1242371668.30191.7.camel@localhost> <5803c9860905150202n314487d2m9f272b500228e167@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1242401090.31725.0.camel@localhost> That's what it was. Thanks alot. On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 11:02 +0200, Francesco wrote: > 2009/5/15 Scott : > > Anonymous users can view the referenced node when called directly, > > ie /node/20. The problem is that the array element [view] is not > > populated for anonymous users. > > Hi Scott, > looks like you have enabled field-level access permissions. > > Check in admin/build/modules if you have "content permissions" > enabled, in the CCK section. If so, you can either disable it (if you > don't need to limit access on a per-field level) or enable them > individually in admin/user/permissions. > > Kind regards, > Francesco > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] From drupallist at dirtsimple.net Fri May 15 15:33:31 2009 From: drupallist at dirtsimple.net (Cosmo) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 11:33:31 -0400 Subject: [support] Getting a "Path already in use" after a node disappeared Message-ID: I had a user delete a node by accident and now when I attempt to recreate the node I get the message "Path already in use" This was the flow: 1) I created the node (which the path /fundraising) 2) I pointed a few menu to it. 3) I change the "author" of the node to her - so she could edit it. 4) She hit the delete by accident (I think) At least that's what's she telling me, I wasn't there. I've searched for the node every way I can think of but I can't find it. 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URL: From daniel.carrera at theingots.org Fri May 15 15:50:29 2009 From: daniel.carrera at theingots.org (Daniel Carrera) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 17:50:29 +0200 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <00a901c9d56e$26ed1400$b400a8c0@Nikko> References: <4a0b17ab.0f98600a.6536.4000@mx.google.com> <4A0B1C46.5040600@theingots.org> <4A0B1ED4.4050107@theingots.org> <4A0B22B6.10103@theingots.org> <20090514121750.37920tde823xtkvk@mail.siebunlimited.com> <4A0C1199.2040308@theingots.org> <4A0C1963.6000801@theingots.org> <4A0C1F2C.8020600@earthlink.net> <4A0C5A0F.5040008@theingots.org> <4A0C6296.6040806@earthlink.net> <4A0C7359.9060503@theingots.org><4A0C76F3.3090408@earthlink.net> <4A0D4228.3070105@theingots.org><005a01c9d55f$67b786a0$b400a8c0@Nikko> <4A0D7747.4080806@theingots.org> <00a901c9d56e$26ed1400$b400a8c0@Nikko> Message-ID: <4A0D8F45.6070706@theingots.org> I'd like to thank everyone for all the help you've provided. We have decided to move to a dedicated server after all. It'll be a managed dedicated server, so I don't have to do the admin work. The server will be at the same host we have now, at least until the end of the school year (because this is the least disruptive option). After school is over we can evaluate whether we are fully satisfied with the service or not and I have bookmarked RackSpace as an alternative. The cloud computing sounds very interesting, but unless we can find a *managed* cloud computing service, I don't think it is right for us. I'd like to thank everyone for your assistance and guidance. You have been most helpful. Especially considering that the last 2/3 of the thread were not even about Drupal. Best regards. Daniel. From support at newms.net Fri May 15 15:59:33 2009 From: support at newms.net (Sam Cohen) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 11:59:33 -0400 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: <00a901c9d56e$26ed1400$b400a8c0@Nikko> References: <4a0b17ab.0f98600a.6536.4000@mx.google.com> <4A0C1F2C.8020600@earthlink.net> <4A0C5A0F.5040008@theingots.org> <4A0C6296.6040806@earthlink.net> <4A0C7359.9060503@theingots.org> <4A0C76F3.3090408@earthlink.net> <4A0D4228.3070105@theingots.org> <005a01c9d55f$67b786a0$b400a8c0@Nikko> <4A0D7747.4080806@theingots.org> <00a901c9d56e$26ed1400$b400a8c0@Nikko> Message-ID: There are plenty of shared hosting companies that offer great support and can handle very busy sites. And this is coming from someone who hosts about 40 Drupal sites for clients on my own dedicated server. I have to say, I'm thinking about getting out of the hosting biz altogether, because I've seem really inexpensive hosting companies do a great job. I manage a number of GoDaddy hosted sites that work great with a lot of traffic and logged in users. The thing you do have to watch out for on shared hosting, are sites that consume a massive amount of php memory, such as a site running Ubercart, CiviCRM, Views, Devel etc -- with some shared host companies, even though it says you have plenty of php memory, it turns out they allocate it dynamically and you might wind up with the white screen of death on some of your pages. On one such site, I recently went with a managed VPS at servint.net -- which was recommended by a number of Drupal consultants. So far I've been happy with them and their prices are good. You can also use this code to get 50% off your first month - whtreturn09 For shared hosting, there's also http://hotdrupal.com/ -- which I haven't used, but they have been recommended by a number of people. Sam On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Nicolas Tostin wrote: > > > > Regarding Mosso, I'll understand their basic plan will fit you ? > > > It's 50GB HD, 500GB Bandwith and 10000 compute cycles for $100, so it > looks > > > good for your usage ? > > > > I must have made a mistake. I calculated the cost and I got a very > > different value: > > > > 500*0.25 + 50*0.25 + 10000*0.01 = $350/mo. > > > > Where did I go wrong? > > Don't know where you got these numbers, see their pricing page > http://www.mosso.com/pricing.jsp > Start at $100, extra GB of storage is $0.5, extra GB of bandwith is $0.25 > > What I'm not really sure is how the compute cycle will stand, for exemple, > I'm building a web site which abuse of views, and some dashboard admin page > generates hundreds of queries... I know I should optimize this but the > optimization will cost me a lot of time so if it doesn't hurt so much the > bill it's ok... > But I think you'll have to evaluate this to be sure not to explode the > compute cycles in Mosso. > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From victorkane at gmail.com Fri May 15 16:14:44 2009 From: victorkane at gmail.com (Victor Kane) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 13:14:44 -0300 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: References: <4a0b17ab.0f98600a.6536.4000@mx.google.com> <4A0C5A0F.5040008@theingots.org> <4A0C6296.6040806@earthlink.net> <4A0C7359.9060503@theingots.org> <4A0C76F3.3090408@earthlink.net> <4A0D4228.3070105@theingots.org> <005a01c9d55f$67b786a0$b400a8c0@Nikko> <4A0D7747.4080806@theingots.org> <00a901c9d56e$26ed1400$b400a8c0@Nikko> Message-ID: It's true that sometimes shared hosting gives great value. The problem is that the service is never consistent. Their fortunes and the service they offer varies tremendously over time. I started out with Site5, several years ago. For the first year they were great, recommendable. Then their server performance began to suck as evident overselling took place. Now, however, they have migrated to new servers (new owners) and right now are tremendously recommendable. Service is great too. However, I prefer the freedom of VPS and have been working with linode.com for over a year, and love it. Never a problem, strong performance, great service, irc discussion group, great wiki... Highly recommendable. My referral code is http://www.linode.com/?r=a105db8a0cca040b67cc8221fe25ffc84d45e25b Use it! Victor Kane http://awebfactory.com.ar On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Sam Cohen wrote: > There are plenty of shared hosting companies that offer great support and > can handle very busy sites. > > And this is coming from someone who hosts about 40 Drupal sites for clients > on my own dedicated server. > > I have to say, I'm thinking about getting out of the hosting biz altogether, > because I've seem really inexpensive hosting companies do a great job.? I > manage a number of GoDaddy hosted sites that work great with a lot of > traffic and logged in users. > > The thing you do have to watch out for on shared hosting, are sites that > consume a massive amount of php memory, such as a site running Ubercart, > CiviCRM, Views, Devel etc -- with some shared host companies, even though it > says you have plenty of php memory, it turns out they allocate it > dynamically and you might wind up with the white screen of death on some of > your pages. > > On one such site, I recently went with a managed VPS at servint.net -- which > was recommended by a number of Drupal consultants.? So far I've been happy > with them and their prices are good.? You can also use this code to get 50% > off your first month -? whtreturn09 > > For shared hosting, there's also http://hotdrupal.com/ -- which I haven't > used, but they have been recommended by a number of people. > > Sam > > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Nicolas Tostin > wrote: >> >> > > Regarding Mosso, I'll understand their basic plan will fit you ? >> > > It's 50GB HD, 500GB Bandwith and 10000 compute cycles for $100, so it >> looks >> > > good for your usage ? >> > >> > I must have made a mistake. I calculated the cost and I got a very >> > different value: >> > >> > 500*0.25 + 50*0.25 + 10000*0.01 = $350/mo. >> > >> > Where did I go wrong? >> >> Don't know where you got these numbers, see their pricing page >> http://www.mosso.com/pricing.jsp >> Start at $100, extra GB of storage is $0.5, extra GB of bandwith is $0.25 >> >> What I'm not really sure is how the compute cycle will stand, for exemple, >> I'm building a web site which abuse of views, and some dashboard admin >> page >> generates hundreds of queries... I know I should optimize this but the >> optimization will cost me a lot of time so if it doesn't hurt so much the >> bill it's ok... >> But I think you'll have to evaluate this to be sure not to explode the >> compute cycles in Mosso. >> >> -- >> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > From luca.capra at gmail.com Fri May 15 17:19:27 2009 From: luca.capra at gmail.com (luca capra) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 19:19:27 +0200 Subject: [support] Most suitable ecommerce module Message-ID: <4A0DA41F.2050905@gmail.com> Hello support, I'm planning a drupal based ecommerce website. There will be an affiliate role for buyers with a special % discount on each purchase, and a custom discount for some of these users (affiliated) . The shop will count many products, probably around 1000. Finally we'll use a custom payment gateway with a local bank api. I read about ecommerce module (of which I got a book by M.Peacock,2008 about v3 on D5) and ubercart module. After searching on the web for comparison of these two modules, I've started some days ago to create 2 different test sites on D6. Not yet tried to customize theme or work with APIs. I'm still confused.. Can somebody give me any hint about ? Thanks a lot, Luca From dan.horning at planetnoc.com Fri May 15 17:23:03 2009 From: dan.horning at planetnoc.com (Daniel Horning) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 13:23:03 -0400 Subject: [support] CPU usage In-Reply-To: References: <4a0b17ab.0f98600a.6536.4000@mx.google.com> <4A0C1F2C.8020600@earthlink.net> <4A0C5A0F.5040008@theingots.org> <4A0C6296.6040806@earthlink.net> <4A0C7359.9060503@theingots.org> <4A0C76F3.3090408@earthlink.net> <4A0D4228.3070105@theingots.org> <005a01c9d55f$67b786a0$b400a8c0@Nikko> <4A0D7747.4080806@theingots.org> <00a901c9d56e$26ed1400$b400a8c0@Nikko> Message-ID: <000601c9d581$ce3fe080$6abfa180$@horning@planetnoc.com> If you're interested in either talking about working with someone or just combining knowledge pools of active web hosts get in touch with me - I'd be happy to work with a bunch of you to get some really detailed plans in place for helping all of us grow in this crazy market. -- Dan Horning American Digital Services - Where you are only limited by imagination. dan.horning at planetnoc.com :: http://www.americandigitalservices.com 1-518-444-0213 x502 . toll free 1-800-863-3854 . fax 1-888-474-6133 15 Third Street, PO Box 746, Troy, NY 12180 (by appointment only) From: support-bounces at drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces at drupal.org] On Behalf Of Sam Cohen Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 12:00 PM To: support at drupal.org Subject: Re: [support] CPU usage There are plenty of shared hosting companies that offer great support and can handle very busy sites. And this is coming from someone who hosts about 40 Drupal sites for clients on my own dedicated server. I have to say, I'm thinking about getting out of the hosting biz altogether, because I've seem really inexpensive hosting companies do a great job. I manage a number of GoDaddy hosted sites that work great with a lot of traffic and logged in users. The thing you do have to watch out for on shared hosting, are sites that consume a massive amount of php memory, such as a site running Ubercart, CiviCRM, Views, Devel etc -- with some shared host companies, even though it says you have plenty of php memory, it turns out they allocate it dynamically and you might wind up with the white screen of death on some of your pages. On one such site, I recently went with a managed VPS at servint.net -- which was recommended by a number of Drupal consultants. So far I've been happy with them and their prices are good. You can also use this code to get 50% off your first month - whtreturn09 For shared hosting, there's also http://hotdrupal.com/ -- which I haven't used, but they have been recommended by a number of people. Sam On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Nicolas Tostin wrote: > > Regarding Mosso, I'll understand their basic plan will fit you ? > > It's 50GB HD, 500GB Bandwith and 10000 compute cycles for $100, so it looks > > good for your usage ? > > I must have made a mistake. I calculated the cost and I got a very > different value: > > 500*0.25 + 50*0.25 + 10000*0.01 = $350/mo. > > Where did I go wrong? Don't know where you got these numbers, see their pricing page http://www.mosso.com/pricing.jsp Start at $100, extra GB of storage is $0.5, extra GB of bandwith is $0.25 What I'm not really sure is how the compute cycle will stand, for exemple, I'm building a web site which abuse of views, and some dashboard admin page generates hundreds of queries... I know I should optimize this but the optimization will cost me a lot of time so if it doesn't hurt so much the bill it's ok... But I think you'll have to evaluate this to be sure not to explode the compute cycles in Mosso. -- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From entuland at gmail.com Fri May 15 19:02:34 2009 From: entuland at gmail.com (Francesco) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 21:02:34 +0200 Subject: [support] Getting a "Path already in use" after a node disappeared In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5803c9860905151202l4fc3d8dbw71a77db0d8614f57@mail.gmail.com> 2009/5/15 Cosmo : > I've searched for the node every way I can think of but I can't find it. So, > where is that "path" reference being stored (or used?) Hi Cozzi, paths are stored in the "url_alias" table, but you can manage them with the built-in interface found in administer > site building > url aliases Regards, Francesco From entuland at gmail.com Fri May 15 19:33:19 2009 From: entuland at gmail.com (Francesco) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 21:33:19 +0200 Subject: [support] Booking a period of time (again..) In-Reply-To: <8bd97ca25450ef3e88e139579b91153c.squirrel@webmail.codicelibero.net> References: <8bd97ca25450ef3e88e139579b91153c.squirrel@webmail.codicelibero.net> Message-ID: <5803c9860905151233t5289e6d6n1d45e167666f057@mail.gmail.com> 2009/5/12 Francesco Baldini : > I need to create a day, hour-to-hour (eg: 9am to 4pm), and let people book > a part of this time, 1 hour or just 2, 3, 4, 5 and so on... [...] > as said, the biggest problem is that users don't have to book hour by hour > but a period of 1, 2, 3, 4, etc.. so I can't create a post for every > hour.. > > any idea? Hi Francesco, I've been thinking a bit about your post, as well as about another post here in the list which is about sorting comments. The comment system is perfectly fitting for its purposes, but of course it is limited to its hard-coded features. One way to do the trick could be to create a new content type containing a field which references the "hour" content. I would do that by allowing it to reference more "hour" nodes. In this way, of course, you'd have to create individual "hour" nodes. Then, as another pick, you could create a content type containing: - a field which references one "bookable day" node; - a field containing a list where the user can select one or more hours; Once you have done that you should customize something like the page.tpl.php in order to let it show the corresponding booked hours in each "bookable day" full node view. Another idea could be to use the comment module as a template and modify it to suit your needs. You would be creating an additional custom module, actually. Hope my thoughts could help to do the job - although my ideas do not fully cover your requests. Also, I didn't try anything of the above, but I've done similar things and I believe it can be done in a relatively easy manner - assuming you're comfortable with creating and debugging your own PHP code. Good luck, Francesco From joe.yamada at gmail.com Sat May 16 21:39:53 2009 From: joe.yamada at gmail.com (Joseph Yamada) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 17:39:53 -0400 Subject: [support] SSL Form Posts in Drupal are sent in the clear ... Message-ID: <7c63b3380905161439w4585a6f8p335fe3d7f869e523@mail.gmail.com> ... this is bad, I won't be able to deploy to production until I fix this. I've configured mod_ssl with my apache to require my drupal site to run in SSL. And then I changed my login form to post back in https all the time $form = array( '#action' => preg_replace('/^http:/', 'https:', url($_GET['q'], drupal_get_destination(), null, true)), ); So my logins are encrypted. So I'm on the site and https is encrypting the GETs, but then I change a form, say my profile page, then I post anything back to the server and my browser says I am sending text in the clear, non-encrypted. Does this mean I need to rewrite the form posts for every form post page ? Has anyone seen this, please assist a fellow Drupal user, -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mfioretti at nexaima.net Sat May 16 22:33:29 2009 From: mfioretti at nexaima.net (M. Fioretti) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 00:33:29 +0200 Subject: [support] URL of website doesn't point anymore to Drupal installation Message-ID: <20090516223329.GA468@nexaima.net> sorry for the vague subject, but I couldn't find a better one. I have the website http://digifreedom.net running on a VPS with Drupal 6.10 . This is a multisite Drupal setup: only one installation, with subdirectories in sites/, and a separate mysql database for each website. For several reasons, I had setup DNS, drupal and everything to work without the www prefix on domain names. In other words, http://digifreedom.net is OK, www.digifreedom.net was never used. Everything worked perfectly for months, if not years. Five minutes ago, somebody wrote to me that a digifreedom.net URL I suggested him to read "doesn't work". I checked, and what happens now is that, if I type http://digifreedom.net/node/82 the browser is immediately redirected to www.digifreedom.net/node/82, which returns an error message: "Firefox can't find the server at www.digifreedom.net" That error message is OK, because I had NOT set up apache to answer to that address. What I don't get is why http://digifreedom.net becomes www.digifreedom.net. I haven't changed anything myself in DNS, drupal or apache config, so why all of a sudden something started to behave differently? The weirdest thing is that this "forced redirection from example.com to www.example.com happens with some, but not all of the other domains configured in the same way and running on the same server off the same Apache/Drupal installation! How can I find, at least, which piece of the puzzle is responsible for this problem? I am aware that probably this isn't even a drupal issue, I just need a pointer in the right direction. TIA, Marco -- Your own civil rights and the quality of your life heavily depend on how software is used *around* you: http://digifreedom.net/node/84 From pierre.rineau at makina-corpus.com Sat May 16 23:13:14 2009 From: pierre.rineau at makina-corpus.com (Pierre Rineau) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 01:13:14 +0200 Subject: [support] SSL Form Posts in Drupal are sent in the clear ... In-Reply-To: <7c63b3380905161439w4585a6f8p335fe3d7f869e523@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c63b3380905161439w4585a6f8p335fe3d7f869e523@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1242515594.4460.7.camel@blaster> May be a cache problem. If you use SSL and non-SSL on the same Drupal site, generated cache (IE. nodes texts and blocks content, even full pages in aggressive caching mode) will randomly carry https:// or http:// URLs. In fact, if a use browse the site with https://, the url() function will put https:// absolute URL for files (and whenever the coder asked the url() function to do an absolute URL) in rendered content, then save it in cache. The result is, when a user will visit the site with http:// (non-SSL mode), content got back from cache will display https:// because of this wrong cache. The opposite operation also works, the first user to hit the content (https or not) will generate the cache. In the company I work for, we encounter this problem a lot, we finally decide to use multi site for SSL and non-SSL mixed sites, with a different domain name (IE mydomain.tld and secure.mydomain.tld), both sites using the same database with the same prefix, except for cache tables. With this method, a user hitting the site with SSL mode will write cache for SSL browsers only and vice-versa. You might try using no cache at all, or emptying your cache at each request to be sure this is what's messing it up. Pierre. On Sat, 2009-05-16 at 17:39 -0400, Joseph Yamada wrote: > ... this is bad, I won't be able to deploy to production until I fix > this. > > I've configured mod_ssl with my apache to require my drupal site to > run in SSL. > > And then I changed my login form to post back in https all the time > $form = array( > '#action' => preg_replace('/^http:/', 'https:', url($_GET['q'], > drupal_get_destination(), null, true)), > ); > > So my logins are encrypted. > > So I'm on the site and https is encrypting the GETs, but then I change > a form, say my profile page, then I post anything back to the server > and my browser says I am sending text in the clear, non-encrypted. > > Does this mean I need to rewrite the form posts for every form post > page ? > > Has anyone seen this, please assist a fellow Drupal user, > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] From pierre.rineau at makina-corpus.com Sat May 16 23:15:16 2009 From: pierre.rineau at makina-corpus.com (Pierre Rineau) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 01:15:16 +0200 Subject: [support] SSL Form Posts in Drupal are sent in the clear ... In-Reply-To: <7c63b3380905161439w4585a6f8p335fe3d7f869e523@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c63b3380905161439w4585a6f8p335fe3d7f869e523@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1242515716.4460.9.camel@blaster> May be you should just not use absolute URLs, with relative URLs the user's browser will construct the http:// or https:// itself, this can resolve a lot of problems (servers behind proxies, multiple frontend, cached URLs, etc..). Also check you did not override the $base_url global in your settings.php. On Sat, 2009-05-16 at 17:39 -0400, Joseph Yamada wrote: > ... this is bad, I won't be able to deploy to production until I fix > this. > > I've configured mod_ssl with my apache to require my drupal site to > run in SSL. > > And then I changed my login form to post back in https all the time > $form = array( > '#action' => preg_replace('/^http:/', 'https:', url($_GET['q'], > drupal_get_destination(), null, true)), > ); > > So my logins are encrypted. > > So I'm on the site and https is encrypting the GETs, but then I change > a form, say my profile page, then I post anything back to the server > and my browser says I am sending text in the clear, non-encrypted. > > Does this mean I need to rewrite the form posts for every form post > page ? > > Has anyone seen this, please assist a fellow Drupal user, > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] From joe at openconcept.ca Sun May 17 00:10:49 2009 From: joe at openconcept.ca (Joe Stewart) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 19:10:49 -0500 Subject: [support] URL of website doesn't point anymore to Drupal installation In-Reply-To: <20090516223329.GA468@nexaima.net> References: <20090516223329.GA468@nexaima.net> Message-ID: <989c1ca30905161710p7a031c60uf623de99ae4f43a6@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 5:33 PM, M. Fioretti wrote: > sorry for the vague subject, but I couldn't find a better one. Renew your domain registration. It expired on May 15. Record last updated on 01-Nov-2008. Record expires on 15-May-2009. Record created on 15-May-2006. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mfioretti at nexaima.net Sun May 17 00:11:49 2009 From: mfioretti at nexaima.net (M. Fioretti) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 02:11:49 +0200 Subject: [support] URL of website doesn't point anymore to Drupal installation In-Reply-To: <989c1ca30905161710p7a031c60uf623de99ae4f43a6@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090516223329.GA468@nexaima.net> <989c1ca30905161710p7a031c60uf623de99ae4f43a6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090517001149.GC1518@nexaima.net> On Sat, May 16, 2009 19:10:49 PM -0500, Joe Stewart wrote: > > Renew your domain registration. It expired on May 15. The point is, I *had* renewed it! I **had** got the usual warning at the beginning of the week, but had paid on the early morning of May 15th or 14th, and got the confirmation that the payment had gone through without problems... I've already sent a ticket to my registrar. Thanks for the pointer! From joe at openconcept.ca Sun May 17 00:44:21 2009 From: joe at openconcept.ca (Joe Stewart) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 19:44:21 -0500 Subject: [support] URL of website doesn't point anymore to Drupal installation In-Reply-To: <20090517001149.GC1518@nexaima.net> References: <20090516223329.GA468@nexaima.net> <989c1ca30905161710p7a031c60uf623de99ae4f43a6@mail.gmail.com> <20090517001149.GC1518@nexaima.net> Message-ID: <989c1ca30905161744mecd4df7h620cb71ace8d74dd@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 7:11 PM, M. Fioretti wrote: > On Sat, May 16, 2009 19:10:49 PM -0500, Joe Stewart wrote: > > > > > Renew your domain registration. It expired on May 15. > > The point is, I *had* renewed it! > > I **had** got the usual warning at the beginning of the week, but had > paid on the early morning of May 15th or 14th, and got the > confirmation that the payment had gone through without > problems... I've already sent a ticket to my registrar. > Good deal. Looks like they've applied the renewal now. A side note related to the with or without www. There is a clause in .htaccess to redirect the "www" page request to one without. Change the example domain info to yours. Joe > > Thanks for the pointer! > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mike at mikeyp.net Sun May 17 01:08:23 2009 From: mike at mikeyp.net (Michael Prasuhn) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 18:08:23 -0700 Subject: [support] SSL Form Posts in Drupal are sent in the clear ... In-Reply-To: <7c63b3380905161439w4585a6f8p335fe3d7f869e523@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c63b3380905161439w4585a6f8p335fe3d7f869e523@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <748B9D4E-8246-4712-AC76-6F3207522834@mikeyp.net> The problem comes when Drupal can't tell which is the 'base_url' that should be used for form_actions and URLs. Check out the secure_pages module, it handles the switching and sets the necessary variables for various pages of the site. It also will redirect to secure or non-secure if necessary for your site. -Mike On May 16, 2009, at 2:39 PM, Joseph Yamada wrote: > ... this is bad, I won't be able to deploy to production until I fix > this. > > I've configured mod_ssl with my apache to require my drupal site to > run in SSL. > > And then I changed my login form to post back in https all the time > $form = array( > '#action' => preg_replace('/^http:/', 'https:', url($_GET['q'], > drupal_get_destination(), null, true)), > ); > > So my logins are encrypted. > > So I'm on the site and https is encrypting the GETs, but then I > change a form, say my profile page, then I post anything back to the > server and my browser says I am sending text in the clear, non- > encrypted. > > Does this mean I need to rewrite the form posts for every form post > page ? > > Has anyone seen this, please assist a fellow Drupal user, > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] __________________ Michael Prasuhn 503.488.5433 office 714.356.0168 cell 503.661.7574 home mike at mikeyp.net http://mikeyp.net From mail at webthatworks.it Sun May 17 08:54:18 2009 From: mail at webthatworks.it (Ivan Sergio Borgonovo) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 10:54:18 +0200 Subject: [support] problem with tmp folder and permission In-Reply-To: <008301c9cfb1$cd40d930$19c810ac@usppadova> References: <8B3DA91D74E94EED9AF694819101A857@data> <20090507225820.0e85f42f@dawn.webthatworks.it> <008301c9cfb1$cd40d930$19c810ac@usppadova> Message-ID: <20090517105418.2f1de922@dawn.webthatworks.it> On Fri, 8 May 2009 09:51:29 +0200 "Simone Dal Maso" wrote: > Hi, > you wrote: > > > > > 777 is really too much. > > What about the ownership of the directory? > > > > What about the ownership of other files in your base dir? what > > were the default of your hosting provider? > > ah... > When I open my ftp client, I have some directories created by my > host provider. > I must put all drupal files in the "httpdocs" folder. > All the directories are created by the same user, but, the root > directory like httpdocs has the group psaserv, instead all the > subdirectories (tmp, files, modules etc) has psaclnt. > so, they become to different group. > Should I try asking my provider to change this? > thanks! Sorry I didn't express myself completely. Look at permission and ownership. Before reaching 777/666 you've several step to try. 750, 755, 770, 775 for dirs 640, 644, 660, 664 for files -- Ivan Sergio Borgonovo http://www.webthatworks.it From mohammed at atexplorer.com Sun May 17 13:50:52 2009 From: mohammed at atexplorer.com (Mohammed@atexplorer.com) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 16:50:52 +0300 Subject: [support] can't reset password Message-ID: <4A10163C.1050507@atexplorer.com> hi everyone, on my Drupal powered website if I try to reset a password Drupal throws an access denied message. here's what I do exactly: * go reset my password and enter my user name * Drupal sends a message with one time login which I use. * I then go to edit my account and change my password. and press submit * I am logged out and I get an access denied page. in the logs I find the following: md5() expects parameter 1 to be string, array given in /home/nattiqc/public_html/modules/user/user.module on line 225. the strange thing is that I took the database and the file system off my linux vps to my windows with lamp locally, and that same sinario works as expected. although I have the same versions of apache and php on both machines. can somebody give me a hint? perhaps using that error message from the logs? -- All The Best, Mohammed Al-shar' From bharanikumariyerphp at gmail.com Sun May 17 15:48:32 2009 From: bharanikumariyerphp at gmail.com (bharani kumar) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 21:18:32 +0530 Subject: [support] can't reset password In-Reply-To: <4A10163C.1050507@atexplorer.com> References: <4A10163C.1050507@atexplorer.com> Message-ID: <2240033d0905170848t37d7423aocb159159aab64e73@mail.gmail.com> what is login URL , Public one or private one , Thanks On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Mohammed at atexplorer.com < mohammed at atexplorer.com> wrote: > hi everyone, > > on my Drupal powered website if I try to reset a password Drupal > throws an access denied message. here's what I do exactly: > > * go reset my password and enter my user name > * Drupal sends a message with one time login which I use. > * I then go to edit my account and change my password. and press submit > * I am logged out and I get an access denied page. > in the logs I find the following: > md5() expects parameter 1 to be string, array given in > /home/nattiqc/public_html/modules/user/user.module on line 225. > > the strange thing is that I took the database and the file system off > my linux vps to my windows with lamp locally, and that same sinario > works as expected. although I have the same versions of apache and php > on both machines. > > can somebody give me a hint? perhaps using that error message from the > logs? > > > -- > All The Best, > Mohammed Al-shar' > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -- ?????? ?????? ???? ?????? Regards B.S.Bharanikumar POST YOUR OPINION http://bharanikumariyerphp.site88.net/bharanikumar/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mohammed at atexplorer.com Sun May 17 15:54:49 2009 From: mohammed at atexplorer.com (Mohammed@atexplorer.com) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 18:54:49 +0300 Subject: [support] can't reset password In-Reply-To: <2240033d0905170848t37d7423aocb159159aab64e73@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A10163C.1050507@atexplorer.com> <2240033d0905170848t37d7423aocb159159aab64e73@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A103349.6020100@atexplorer.com> it's a public URL if I understand correctly. I go to www.example.com/user or, www.example.com/en/user since I18n is installed. is this what you mean? On 5/17/2009 6:48 PM, bharani kumar wrote: > what is login URL , > > Public one or private one , > > Thanks > On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Mohammed at atexplorer.com > > wrote: > > hi everyone, > > on my Drupal powered website if I try to reset a password Drupal > throws an access denied message. here's what I do exactly: > > * go reset my password and enter my user name > * Drupal sends a message with one time login which I use. > * I then go to edit my account and change my password. and press > submit > * I am logged out and I get an access denied page. > in the logs I find the following: > md5() expects parameter 1 to be string, array given in > /home/nattiqc/public_html/modules/user/user.module on line 225. > > the strange thing is that I took the database and the file system off > my linux vps to my windows with lamp locally, and that same sinario > works as expected. although I have the same versions of apache and php > on both machines. > > can somebody give me a hint? perhaps using that error message from the > logs? > > > -- > All The Best, > Mohammed Al-shar' > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > > > > > -- > ?????? ?????? > ???? ?????? > > Regards > B.S.Bharanikumar > > POST YOUR OPINION > http://bharanikumariyerphp.site88.net/bharanikumar/ -- All The Best, Mohammed Al-shar' -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mfioretti at nexaima.net Mon May 18 10:41:32 2009 From: mfioretti at nexaima.net (M. Fioretti) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 12:41:32 +0200 Subject: [support] Thanks for: URL of website doesn't point anymore to Drupal installation In-Reply-To: <20090516223329.GA468@nexaima.net> References: <20090516223329.GA468@nexaima.net> Message-ID: <20090518104132.GK3131@nexaima.net> On Sun, May 17, 2009 00:33:29 AM +0200, Marco Fioretti wrote: > I have the website http://digifreedom.net running on a VPS with > Drupal 6.10... Everything worked perfectly for months, if not > years. Five minutes ago, somebody wrote to me that a digifreedom.net > URL I suggested him to read "doesn't work"... the browser is > immediately redirected to www.digifreedom.net/node/82, which returns > an error message: Thanks to all the members of this list who immediately replied, both here and privately, explaining what the now obvious, stupid problem was: the domain registration had expired a few hours earlier. I had inconsciously excluded this possibility because I was *sure* all payments were OK. Due to a misunderstanding between me and the ISP, they thought I knew I should proceed myself, I thought that also domain renewals would be handled automatically by their system. After you helped me to realize this wasn't the case, I went back to the control panel to pay and everything is OK now. Thanks again! Marco -- Your own civil rights and the quality of your life heavily depend on how software is used *around* you: http://digifreedom.net/node/84 From aldo at caonao.cu Mon May 18 13:20:45 2009 From: aldo at caonao.cu (Aldo Martinez Selleras) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 09:20:45 -0400 Subject: [support] best reply in drupal 6 Message-ID: <4A1160AD.3030401@caonao.cu> this modulo isn't working in my drupal 6... install - OK setup - OK but not working, don't show "bestreply" link in comments of content type i select :( someone know something about?? From earnie at users.sourceforge.net Mon May 18 13:26:25 2009 From: earnie at users.sourceforge.net (Earnie Boyd) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 13:26:25 +0000 Subject: [support] best reply in drupal 6 In-Reply-To: <4A1160AD.3030401@caonao.cu> References: <4A1160AD.3030401@caonao.cu> Message-ID: <20090518132625.20513ezanrdmcoow@mail.siebunlimited.com> Quoting Aldo Martinez Selleras : http://drupal.org/project/issues/bestreply -- Earnie -- http://r-feed.com/ -- http://for-my-kids.com/ -- http://www.4offer.biz/ -- http://give-me-an-offer.com/ From joe.yamada at gmail.com Mon May 18 13:47:25 2009 From: joe.yamada at gmail.com (Joseph Yamada) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 09:47:25 -0400 Subject: [support] SSL Form Posts in Drupal are sent in the clear ... In-Reply-To: <748B9D4E-8246-4712-AC76-6F3207522834@mikeyp.net> References: <7c63b3380905161439w4585a6f8p335fe3d7f869e523@mail.gmail.com> <748B9D4E-8246-4712-AC76-6F3207522834@mikeyp.net> Message-ID: <7c63b3380905180647s13f53104v9136fb6196d0bcd0@mail.gmail.com> Thank you for your replies Pierre and Michael. This is becoming a good discussion for all. For those who are tuning in. I have configured the site to use ssl, but the posts are being sent in plain. Does someone want to share a success story? In reply to Pierre: The posts are always sent in the clear, not intermitently but I will look at the cache. I am using the domain access module so I haven't set the base-url in settings.php. So I using relative urls always and not relative urls, at least that's what I think is happening. Pierre have you configured their drupal with ssl just within apache configs using mod ssl and mod rewrite? In reply to Michael: I activated the secure pages module (again leaving the base url blank, based on reading the module's code) this should rewrite the url with https in front for paths in the secure module lists. But after all this, posts were still sent in the clear. Michael if securepages is working for you, perhaps I did something in apache configs to conflict with this module? Like could this be something to do with mod_rewrite or apache configs? I am rewiting my urls for clean-urls. On 5/16/09, Michael Prasuhn wrote: > The problem comes when Drupal can't tell which is the 'base_url' that > should be used for form_actions and URLs. > > Check out the secure_pages module, it handles the switching and sets > the necessary variables for various pages of the site. It also will > redirect to secure or non-secure if necessary for your site. > > -Mike > > On May 16, 2009, at 2:39 PM, Joseph Yamada wrote: > >> ... this is bad, I won't be able to deploy to production until I fix >> this. >> >> I've configured mod_ssl with my apache to require my drupal site to >> run in SSL. >> >> And then I changed my login form to post back in https all the time >> $form = array( >> '#action' => preg_replace('/^http:/', 'https:', url($_GET['q'], >> drupal_get_destination(), null, true)), >> ); >> >> So my logins are encrypted. >> >> So I'm on the site and https is encrypting the GETs, but then I >> change a form, say my profile page, then I post anything back to the >> server and my browser says I am sending text in the clear, non- >> encrypted. >> >> Does this mean I need to rewrite the form posts for every form post >> page ? >> >> Has anyone seen this, please assist a fellow Drupal user, >> >> -- >> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > > __________________ > Michael Prasuhn > 503.488.5433 office > 714.356.0168 cell > 503.661.7574 home > mike at mikeyp.net > http://mikeyp.net > > > > > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -- Sent from my mobile device From mohammed at atexplorer.com Mon May 18 18:07:52 2009 From: mohammed at atexplorer.com (Mohammed@atexplorer.com) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 21:07:52 +0300 Subject: [support] can't reset password In-Reply-To: <4A103349.6020100@atexplorer.com> References: <4A10163C.1050507@atexplorer.com> <2240033d0905170848t37d7423aocb159159aab64e73@mail.gmail.com> <4A103349.6020100@atexplorer.com> Message-ID: <4A11A3F8.2000700@atexplorer.com> thanks to everyone who tried to help. the issue was caused by scattered wrong .htaccess files. I reinstalled the file system and now everything works as expected. best, Mohammed. On 5/17/2009 6:54 PM, Mohammed at atexplorer.com wrote: > it's a public URL if I understand correctly. I go to > www.example.com/user or, www.example.com/en/user since I18n is > installed. is this what you mean? > > On 5/17/2009 6:48 PM, bharani kumar wrote: >> what is login URL , >> >> Public one or private one , >> >> Thanks >> On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Mohammed at atexplorer.com >> > > wrote: >> >> hi everyone, >> >> on my Drupal powered website if I try to reset a password Drupal >> throws an access denied message. here's what I do exactly: >> >> * go reset my password and enter my user name >> * Drupal sends a message with one time login which I use. >> * I then go to edit my account and change my password. and press >> submit >> * I am logged out and I get an access denied page. >> in the logs I find the following: >> md5() expects parameter 1 to be string, array given in >> /home/nattiqc/public_html/modules/user/user.module on line 225. >> >> the strange thing is that I took the database and the file system off >> my linux vps to my windows with lamp locally, and that same sinario >> works as expected. although I have the same versions of apache >> and php >> on both machines. >> >> can somebody give me a hint? perhaps using that error message >> from the >> logs? >> >> >> -- >> All The Best, >> Mohammed Al-shar' >> >> -- >> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >> >> >> >> >> -- >> ?????? ?????? >> ???? ?????? >> >> Regards >> B.S.Bharanikumar >> >> POST YOUR OPINION >> http://bharanikumariyerphp.site88.net/bharanikumar/ > > > -- > All The Best, > Mohammed Al-shar' > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] -- All The Best, Mohammed Al-shar' -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aurfalien at gmail.com Mon May 18 22:05:58 2009 From: aurfalien at gmail.com (aurfalien at gmail.com) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 15:05:58 -0700 Subject: [support] ldap provisioning module Message-ID: <7C12BC37-B88A-4AA6-BB84-DC4D2CE1CF07@gmail.com> Hi all, I sent this earlier but not sure if any one go it. excuse the resend if you received it in the past. I'm trying to use the samba ldap provisioning module for the uidNumber attribute as the standard ldap provisioning module doesn't seem to support this. While I can use the ldap provisioning module as long as I insert a line in the Basic LDAP attributes window to look like this; uidNumber: 3000 I can't seem to have it auto generated when enabling the samba ldap provisioning portion. Can any one shed some light on how I can have the uidNumber attribute generated by Drupal or how to properly use the ldap samba module? I am using the posixAccount object class that needs a uidNumber attribute. I am using Drupal 5.12 and have it talking with my OpenLDAP and can add/remove users via Drupal as long as I manually add uidNumber: 3000 for example but I would like this automatic. I'm even unsure if I am explaining this correctly? Thanks in advance, - aurfalien From mohammed at atexplorer.com Mon May 18 22:22:25 2009 From: mohammed at atexplorer.com (Mohammed@atexplorer.com) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 01:22:25 +0300 Subject: [support] modify email headers Message-ID: <4A11DFA1.7090105@atexplorer.com> hi list. how do I modify the mail headers that are sent by Drupal? for some reason emails sent from my installation have the sender as nobody at host.domain.com. note that I have specified a valid email address under site configuration / site information. -- All The Best, Mohammed Al-shar' From greg.knaddison at gmail.com Mon May 18 22:27:04 2009 From: greg.knaddison at gmail.com (Greg Knaddison) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 16:27:04 -0600 Subject: [support] modify email headers In-Reply-To: <4A11DFA1.7090105@atexplorer.com> References: <4A11DFA1.7090105@atexplorer.com> Message-ID: <3861c6770905181527w72e001e5v3e8368fc3e540337@mail.gmail.com> I suggest http://drupal.org/project/returnpath If nothing else the project page provides some guidance. On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Mohammed at atexplorer.com wrote: > how do I modify the mail headers that are sent by Drupal? for some reason > emails sent from my installation have the sender as nobody at host.domain.com. > note that I have specified a valid email address under site configuration / > site information. Regards, Greg -- Greg Knaddison | 303-800-5623 | http://growingventuresolutions.com Cracking Drupal - Learn to protect your Drupal site from hackers Now available from Wiley http://crackingdrupal.com From tloud365 at gmail.com Tue May 19 00:15:42 2009 From: tloud365 at gmail.com (T L) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 20:15:42 -0400 Subject: [support] modify email headers In-Reply-To: <3861c6770905181527w72e001e5v3e8368fc3e540337@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A11DFA1.7090105@atexplorer.com> <3861c6770905181527w72e001e5v3e8368fc3e540337@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Mohammed, Is this in a custom module? If so, check out your drupal_mail arguments-- http://api.drupal.org/api/function/drupal_mail/5. eg, for d5 drupal_mail( $id, $to, $subject, $body, *$from*); //or further customization drupal_mail( $id, $to, $subject, $body, *$from*, *array('From'=>$from*, * 'Reply-To'=>'bulkemail at mydomain.com'*) ); //add in bcc, content-type, etc. If not, this might be a server setting not a drupal setting--what's your stack setup, have you looked there? You could always grep nobody at host.domain.com too. Best, Tim On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Greg Knaddison wrote: > I suggest http://drupal.org/project/returnpath > > If nothing else the project page provides some guidance. > > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Mohammed at atexplorer.com > wrote: > > how do I modify the mail headers that are sent by Drupal? for some reason > > emails sent from my installation have the sender as > nobody at host.domain.com. > > note that I have specified a valid email address under site configuration > / > > site information. > > Regards, > Greg > > -- > Greg Knaddison | 303-800-5623 | http://growingventuresolutions.com > Cracking Drupal - Learn to protect your Drupal site from hackers > Now available from Wiley http://crackingdrupal.com > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -- Tim Loudon t: 781.686.6096 e: tloud365 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From justin.gruenberg at gmail.com Tue May 19 21:07:38 2009 From: justin.gruenberg at gmail.com (Justin Gruenberg) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 16:07:38 -0500 Subject: [support] Is it mandatory to run updates if only trusted people can create content and comments? In-Reply-To: <5803c9860905150418n1ea8b461qd10e9b9b4d17641a@mail.gmail.com> References: <5803c9860905150418n1ea8b461qd10e9b9b4d17641a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <96cd751f0905191407h3ed52267g1974b478c28c8269@mail.gmail.com> Any data from a user is a possible attack vector for potential hackers. I'd say that if users can't create or modify content you're safer, but I'd still run updates. Not only do the updates fix security problems, they provide bug fixes which might improve the functioning of your site. On 5/15/09, Francesco wrote: > Hi everybody, > some questions which I wasn't able to find an answer to, searching the > web and the Drupal site (as I mentioned before, the link for searching > the support list archives is broken, hence I couldn't search there). > > Some of the sites I'm creating do not give to users the ability to > create content, nor to comment anything. > > Only administrators can create content and post comments, as well as > creating new accounts (but those sites will have just a handful of > users in any case, the administrators themselves). > > So the question is: in such a scenario, is it mandatory to run updates > - especially security updates? > > My knowledge about security issues borders the zero line, hence I > really don't know how much risk I would be taking by not running > updates regularly - by the way, regular backups are a rule for me in > any case, moreover because I could break the site myself ;-) > > Imagine now I give anonymous users the ability to comment, while > keeping all content creation permissions for administrators, would > then an outdated site still be safe? > > And finally, since I will be using the Views module, are Views > arguments an entry point for attacks, forcing me to run updates? > > Thank you for your attention, > kind regards, > Francesco > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -- Sent from my mobile device From entuland at gmail.com Tue May 19 21:33:15 2009 From: entuland at gmail.com (Francesco) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 23:33:15 +0200 Subject: [support] Is it mandatory to run updates if only trusted people can create content and comments? In-Reply-To: <96cd751f0905191407h3ed52267g1974b478c28c8269@mail.gmail.com> References: <5803c9860905150418n1ea8b461qd10e9b9b4d17641a@mail.gmail.com> <96cd751f0905191407h3ed52267g1974b478c28c8269@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5803c9860905191433l5960cafdh91e495a0d13c626e@mail.gmail.com> Hi Justin, thank you for your response. These words of yours: > Any data from a user is a possible attack vector for potential > hackers. are just what I needed to hear. I have to explain the need of updates depending on the amount - and moreover on the configuration - of the Drupal modules to the people I am making sites for. > I'd say that if users can't create or modify content you're > safer, but I'd still run updates. > Not only do the updates fix security > problems, they provide bug fixes which might improve the functioning > of your site. No problem for my very sites, I'm more concerned about my "clients" sites security - clients inside quotes because that's not paid work :-/ More the modules, more the updates to take care of... Well, I'll find an arrangement. Thanks a lot, Francesco From rotsen at gmail.com Tue May 19 22:40:00 2009 From: rotsen at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?B?TulzdG9y?=) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 15:40:00 -0700 Subject: [support] drupal 6.12 In-Reply-To: <1CF7137E18C1234082F572E8A816DFAE12C33177@Octopus.sdcwa.org> References: <1CF7137E18C1234082F572E8A816DFAE12C33177@Octopus.sdcwa.org> Message-ID: Hi, I am trying to adddrupal 6.12 on my WIMP (windows, IIS , mysql, php) web server and I get the following error Warning: fopen(./sites/default/settings.php) [function.fopen]: failed to open stream: Permission denied in D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\root\nestor\drupal612\includes\install.inc on line 236 N?stor -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From metzlerd at evergreen.edu Tue May 19 23:01:14 2009 From: metzlerd at evergreen.edu (Metzler, David) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 16:01:14 -0700 Subject: [support] drupal 6.12 In-Reply-To: References: <1CF7137E18C1234082F572E8A816DFAE12C33177@Octopus.sdcwa.org> Message-ID: <52177C930FA90F4D9888B0343FDB79FB10EE20@birch.evergreen.edu> Although this could be a bug for how windows work, Try granting your INETPUB_??? user write access to the settings.php file. Drupal tries to modify this file to help you get your db set up. Dave ________________________________ From: support-bounces at drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces at drupal.org] On Behalf Of N?stor Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 3:40 PM To: support at drupal.org Subject: [support] drupal 6.12 Hi, I am trying to adddrupal 6.12 on my WIMP (windows, IIS , mysql, php) web server and I get the following error Warning: fopen(./sites/default/settings.php) [function.fopen]: failed to open stream: Permission denied in D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\root\nestor\drupal612\includes\install.inc on line 236 N?stor -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From crazyguru85 at gmail.com Wed May 20 09:26:40 2009 From: crazyguru85 at gmail.com (crazy guru) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 02:26:40 -0700 Subject: [support] display/hide a cck text field based on the input cck date field Message-ID: <65a095700905200226t1efbef4dydba2b20107311c1e@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, I'm trying to display/hide a cck field based on the input given in another field. My situation is i need to show a cck text field based on the server time...if it doesn't matches, I need to display another cck text field. I guess i can do this using "Computed fields". I read and got some clue from this post (http://drupal.org/node/182473 ) but yet i couldnt get this done . You can see my details in forum post here http://drupal.org/node/466694 . please help me guys. With regards Mohan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From entuland at gmail.com Wed May 20 11:07:49 2009 From: entuland at gmail.com (Francesco) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 13:07:49 +0200 Subject: [support] display/hide a cck text field based on the input cck date field In-Reply-To: <65a095700905200226t1efbef4dydba2b20107311c1e@mail.gmail.com> References: <65a095700905200226t1efbef4dydba2b20107311c1e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5803c9860905200407h7a9b37b6hc2c9c29eccb1a8d5@mail.gmail.com> Hi Mohan, I've read your lines: > I'm trying to display/hide a cck field based on the input given in another > field. My situation is i need to show a cck text field based on the server > time...if it doesn't matches, I need to display another cck text field. and the thread you mentioned on Dupal.org: > You can see my details in forum post here http://drupal.org/node/466694 . So far, I wasn't able to understand if the logic should be applied at input time or at render time. > I guess i can do this using "Computed fields". I read and got some clue from > this post (http://drupal.org/node/182473 ) but yet i couldnt get this done . Maybe computed fields could make it for input time, but in any case it could be useful if you explain in deeper detail the steps you've already done and report the PHP you're using, so that others can reproduce it and check out what's not working. If you have to apply the logic only at render time you can achieve it with Contemplates quite easily. Hope this helps, regards, Francesco From entuland at gmail.com Wed May 20 14:18:21 2009 From: entuland at gmail.com (Francesco) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 16:18:21 +0200 Subject: [support] Unable to keep logged in to some sites when behind a proxy In-Reply-To: <5803c9860905131618h2a0ef933t641e1a9fb6ecfc96@mail.gmail.com> References: <5803c9860905061733w1b52fe9chf48d3411fc514ec5@mail.gmail.com> <4A028074.4080608@gmx.net> <5803c9860905070443v7f7266ak5871d0bbd67f9d05@mail.gmail.com> <4A0B22B5.7080706@gmx.net> <5803c9860905131618h2a0ef933t641e1a9fb6ecfc96@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5803c9860905200718h5a794421lfd5cce2ee6875bac@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, here is an update about my issue, I've found the way to keep logged in using the proxy connection - at least on my websites - hence I consider the problem of this very thread almost solved - almost, as I still cannot log in to drupal.org. Read on if you will. ---- Luckily I had not to hack anything at all, checking out the cookies was way easier than I thought. This is the code I inserted in a block: And I got a confirmation: a session cookie gets set and used by my Dupal installation even when I'm behind a proxy, only that the cookie do not reside on my PC - hence, my proxy server must be storing it for me. Is that bad news? I don't know. Anyway, playing around with urls I've come to discover that if I add www to the path I can log in with no problems on the websites which used to keep me out (when using the proxy connection). *That* is good news, I can finally manage those sites without having to subscribe a different connection. (although I found the way to keep logged in to my sites, I still can't log in into drupal.org. I suppose that if it were set to allow www.drupal.org as base url instead of redirecting all requests to the no-www paths, then I could keep logged in there even with my uncomfortable proxy connection...) But now I have another problem. Here are the directives I'm using: ------------------ RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^toscana-offerte\.com$ [NC] RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://www.toscana-offerte.com/$1 [L,R=301] RewriteBase /drupal RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !=/favicon.ico RewriteRule ^(.*)$ index.php?q=$1 [L,QSA] ----------------- And here is the problem. While requesting these... - http://www.toscana-offerte.com/drupal - http://www.toscana-offerte.com/drupal/node/add/page ...works fine and keeps me logged in, if I request these... - http://toscana-offerte.com/drupal - http://toscana-offerte.com/drupal/node/add/page ...the server returns... - http://www.toscana-offerte.com - http://www.toscana-offerte.com/node/add/page ...and of course, the very last address above gives a 404 because there is no Drupal installation at the root address. Why is the string "\drupal" being stripped out by my .htaccess? Shouldn't the rewritebase condition ensure that it doesn't get stripped? Hope somebody could help here too - the most important problem is solved now, but it would be nice to fix also this little incongruence. Thanks a lot for your attention. Cheers, Francesco From rotsen at gmail.com Wed May 20 14:35:00 2009 From: rotsen at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?B?TulzdG9y?=) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 07:35:00 -0700 Subject: [support] drupal 6.12 In-Reply-To: <52177C930FA90F4D9888B0343FDB79FB10EE20@birch.evergreen.edu> References: <1CF7137E18C1234082F572E8A816DFAE12C33177@Octopus.sdcwa.org> <52177C930FA90F4D9888B0343FDB79FB10EE20@birch.evergreen.edu> Message-ID: I tried to install in on wamp and wimp host and I had problems that I did n ot have with Drupal-6.9.2 or Drupal-6.10 I fixed the problem by going to the settings file and putting the corrrect host, db, pwd in those files. Some how the installer was not writing the info to the setting files. As I said before I did nto have this problems with Drupal-6.9.2 or Drupal-6.10 Things are working now. Thanks, :-) On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Metzler, David wrote: > Although this could be a bug for how windows work, Try granting your > INETPUB_??? user write access to the settings.php file. Drupal tries to > modify this file to help you get your db set up. > > Dave > > ------------------------------ > *From:* support-bounces at drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces at drupal.org] *On > Behalf Of *N?stor > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 19, 2009 3:40 PM > *To:* support at drupal.org > *Subject:* [support] drupal 6.12 > > Hi, > > I am trying to adddrupal 6.12 on my WIMP (windows, IIS , mysql, php) web > server and I get the following error > > Warning: fopen(./sites/default/settings.php) [function.fopen]: failed to > open stream: Permission denied in > D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\root\nestor\drupal612\includes\install.inc on line 236 > > > > N?stor > > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pierre.rineau at makina-corpus.com Sat May 16 23:13:14 2009 From: pierre.rineau at makina-corpus.com (Pierre Rineau) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 01:13:14 +0200 Subject: [support] SSL Form Posts in Drupal are sent in the clear ... In-Reply-To: <7c63b3380905161439w4585a6f8p335fe3d7f869e523@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c63b3380905161439w4585a6f8p335fe3d7f869e523@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1242515594.4460.7.camel@blaster> May be a cache problem. If you use SSL and non-SSL on the same Drupal site, generated cache (IE. nodes texts and blocks content, even full pages in aggressive caching mode) will randomly carry https:// or http:// URLs. In fact, if a use browse the site with https://, the url() function will put https:// absolute URL for files (and whenever the coder asked the url() function to do an absolute URL) in rendered content, then save it in cache. The result is, when a user will visit the site with http:// (non-SSL mode), content got back from cache will display https:// because of this wrong cache. The opposite operation also works, the first user to hit the content (https or not) will generate the cache. In the company I work for, we encounter this problem a lot, we finally decide to use multi site for SSL and non-SSL mixed sites, with a different domain name (IE mydomain.tld and secure.mydomain.tld), both sites using the same database with the same prefix, except for cache tables. With this method, a user hitting the site with SSL mode will write cache for SSL browsers only and vice-versa. You might try using no cache at all, or emptying your cache at each request to be sure this is what's messing it up. Pierre. On Sat, 2009-05-16 at 17:39 -0400, Joseph Yamada wrote: > ... this is bad, I won't be able to deploy to production until I fix > this. > > I've configured mod_ssl with my apache to require my drupal site to > run in SSL. > > And then I changed my login form to post back in https all the time > $form = array( > '#action' => preg_replace('/^http:/', 'https:', url($_GET['q'], > drupal_get_destination(), null, true)), > ); > > So my logins are encrypted. > > So I'm on the site and https is encrypting the GETs, but then I change > a form, say my profile page, then I post anything back to the server > and my browser says I am sending text in the clear, non-encrypted. > > Does this mean I need to rewrite the form posts for every form post > page ? > > Has anyone seen this, please assist a fellow Drupal user, > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] From pierre.rineau at makina-corpus.com Sat May 16 23:15:16 2009 From: pierre.rineau at makina-corpus.com (Pierre Rineau) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 01:15:16 +0200 Subject: [support] SSL Form Posts in Drupal are sent in the clear ... In-Reply-To: <7c63b3380905161439w4585a6f8p335fe3d7f869e523@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c63b3380905161439w4585a6f8p335fe3d7f869e523@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1242515716.4460.9.camel@blaster> May be you should just not use absolute URLs, with relative URLs the user's browser will construct the http:// or https:// itself, this can resolve a lot of problems (servers behind proxies, multiple frontend, cached URLs, etc..). Also check you did not override the $base_url global in your settings.php. On Sat, 2009-05-16 at 17:39 -0400, Joseph Yamada wrote: > ... this is bad, I won't be able to deploy to production until I fix > this. > > I've configured mod_ssl with my apache to require my drupal site to > run in SSL. > > And then I changed my login form to post back in https all the time > $form = array( > '#action' => preg_replace('/^http:/', 'https:', url($_GET['q'], > drupal_get_destination(), null, true)), > ); > > So my logins are encrypted. > > So I'm on the site and https is encrypting the GETs, but then I change > a form, say my profile page, then I post anything back to the server > and my browser says I am sending text in the clear, non-encrypted. > > Does this mean I need to rewrite the form posts for every form post > page ? > > Has anyone seen this, please assist a fellow Drupal user, > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] From metzlerd at evergreen.edu Wed May 20 21:04:03 2009 From: metzlerd at evergreen.edu (Metzler, David) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 14:04:03 -0700 Subject: [support] SSL Form Posts in Drupal are sent in the clear ... In-Reply-To: <1242515716.4460.9.camel@blaster> References: <7c63b3380905161439w4585a6f8p335fe3d7f869e523@mail.gmail.com> <1242515716.4460.9.camel@blaster> Message-ID: <52177C930FA90F4D9888B0343FDB79FB10EE29@birch.evergreen.edu> On my ssl sites I set $base_url in settings.php to be the https://example.com form, which seems to make sure that all my pages are https, even if someone lands on http first, they get redirected after the first click. You might consider also looking at the secure_pages module to make sure specific pages are always secured. Dave -----Original Message----- From: support-bounces at drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces at drupal.org] On Behalf Of Pierre Rineau Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 4:15 PM To: support at drupal.org Subject: Re: [support] SSL Form Posts in Drupal are sent in the clear ... May be you should just not use absolute URLs, with relative URLs the user's browser will construct the http:// or https:// itself, this can resolve a lot of problems (servers behind proxies, multiple frontend, cached URLs, etc..). Also check you did not override the $base_url global in your settings.php. On Sat, 2009-05-16 at 17:39 -0400, Joseph Yamada wrote: > ... this is bad, I won't be able to deploy to production until I fix > this. > > I've configured mod_ssl with my apache to require my drupal site to > run in SSL. > > And then I changed my login form to post back in https all the time > $form = array( > '#action' => preg_replace('/^http:/', 'https:', url($_GET['q'], > drupal_get_destination(), null, true)), > ); > > So my logins are encrypted. > > So I'm on the site and https is encrypting the GETs, but then I change > a form, say my profile page, then I post anything back to the server > and my browser says I am sending text in the clear, non-encrypted. > > Does this mean I need to rewrite the form posts for every form post > page ? > > Has anyone seen this, please assist a fellow Drupal user, > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] -- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] From crazyguru85 at gmail.com Thu May 21 01:17:15 2009 From: crazyguru85 at gmail.com (crazy guru) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 06:47:15 +0530 Subject: [support] display/hide a cck text field based on the input cck date field In-Reply-To: <5803c9860905200407h7a9b37b6hc2c9c29eccb1a8d5@mail.gmail.com> References: <65a095700905200226t1efbef4dydba2b20107311c1e@mail.gmail.com> <5803c9860905200407h7a9b37b6hc2c9c29eccb1a8d5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <65a095700905201817m6f83c3bat9617dcdcc1546549@mail.gmail.com> Hi Francesco, Thanks for your time and the reply. As far as i know, i can refer to a cck field ( in computed field) as $node->field_data[0]['value']; but i am also wondering how to refer a cck field in node body with php input. according to the suggestion given by "Marcus" (http://drupal.org/node/466694), i am trying to use some php code to hide and display a cck field in node body. Beside this, here is the code i have used for computed field to display and hide a cck field. $content1 = $node->field_data1[0]['value']; $content2 = $node->field_data2[0]['value']; $t=getdate(); $today=date('D, m/d/Y - H:s',$t[0]); $due_date = $node->field_whatisdate[0]['value']; if ($due_date >= $today){ $node_field[0]['value'] = $content1; }else{ $node_field[0]['value'] = $content2; } *Display:* $display = $node_field_item['value']; This is how i tried but no luck. i still have issues. please check with this. Thanks in advance. With regards Mohan On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Francesco wrote: > Hi Mohan, > I've read your lines: > > > I'm trying to display/hide a cck field based on the input given in > another > > field. My situation is i need to show a cck text field based on the > server > > time...if it doesn't matches, I need to display another cck text field. > > and the thread you mentioned on Dupal.org: > > > You can see my details in forum post here http://drupal.org/node/466694. > > So far, I wasn't able to understand if the logic should be applied at > input time or at render time. > > > I guess i can do this using "Computed fields". I read and got some clue > from > > this post (http://drupal.org/node/182473 ) but yet i couldnt get this > done . > > Maybe computed fields could make it for input time, but in any case it > could be useful if you explain in deeper detail the steps you've > already done and report the PHP you're using, so that others can > reproduce it and check out what's not working. > > If you have to apply the logic only at render time you can achieve it > with Contemplates quite easily. > > Hope this helps, > regards, > Francesco > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bharanikumariyerphp at gmail.com Thu May 21 04:00:17 2009 From: bharanikumariyerphp at gmail.com (bharani kumar) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 09:30:17 +0530 Subject: [support] Installation problem Message-ID: <2240033d0905202100k692e10b8jef4ed4f8d7d3f2ba@mail.gmail.com> Hi , Am trying to install the drupal 6.12 , My installation stopped in the?Database configuration Also am not getting any error also , Guess and tell me the solution for my Problem , I have enabled the mysqli in php.ini Thanks in advance -- ?????? ?????? ???? ??????? Regards B.S.Bharanikumar POST YOUR OPINION http://bharanikumariyerphp.site88.net/bharanikumar/ From killshot91 at comcast.net Thu May 21 04:50:55 2009 From: killshot91 at comcast.net (Steve Edwards) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 21:50:55 -0700 Subject: [support] Taxonomy terms not displayed on admin screen Message-ID: <4A14DDAF.1080106@comcast.net> I'm having a weird problem with my taxonomy display where when I go to list terms for my vocabulary, all the terms are not displayed, even though they are in the database in both term_data and term_hierarchy. Page 1 displays up to a certain amount, but when I go to page 2, I see "No terms available", even though there are more terms to be displayed. I initially thought it might be the theme (I'm using root Candy in the OpenPublish distro), but even when I use Garland or other themes as the admin theme, I still get the same results. Has anyone else seen this problem? Thanks. Steve From pavan.k.murthy at gmail.com Thu May 21 05:39:49 2009 From: pavan.k.murthy at gmail.com (Pavan Keshavamurthy) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 11:09:49 +0530 Subject: [support] Installation problem In-Reply-To: <2240033d0905202100k692e10b8jef4ed4f8d7d3f2ba@mail.gmail.com> References: <2240033d0905202100k692e10b8jef4ed4f8d7d3f2ba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905211109.49936.pavan.k.murthy@gmail.com> Give us a description of what is happening? Are you getting a blank white page? if (yes) { then it's a memory issue. Set your memory limit to something higher in your php.ini }. Regards _Pavan On Thursday 21 May 2009 09:30:17 bharani kumar wrote: > Hi , > Am trying to install the drupal 6.12 , > > My installation stopped in the Database configuration > > Also am not getting any error also , > > Guess and tell me the solution for my Problem , > > I have enabled the mysqli in php.ini > > Thanks in advance > > > > > -- > ?????? ?????? > ???? ?????? > > Regards > B.S.Bharanikumar > > POST YOUR OPINION > http://bharanikumariyerphp.site88.net/bharanikumar/ > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] -- -Pavan K Murthy http://grahana.net/ From entuland at gmail.com Thu May 21 10:26:45 2009 From: entuland at gmail.com (Francesco) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 12:26:45 +0200 Subject: [support] display/hide a cck text field based on the input cck date field In-Reply-To: <65a095700905201817m6f83c3bat9617dcdcc1546549@mail.gmail.com> References: <65a095700905200226t1efbef4dydba2b20107311c1e@mail.gmail.com> <5803c9860905200407h7a9b37b6hc2c9c29eccb1a8d5@mail.gmail.com> <65a095700905201817m6f83c3bat9617dcdcc1546549@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5803c9860905210326x1457c46fgc4a5622641a73a60@mail.gmail.com> Hi Mohan, > I'm trying to display/hide a cck field based on the input given in another > field. My situation is i need to show a cck text field based on the server > time...if it doesn't matches, I need to display another cck text field. here is what I've done: I created a content type with the following: - a Date field named "due_date" - a Text field named "answer" - a Computed field named "computed" Then I've given this code to the "computed" field: $answer = $node->field_answer[0]['value']; $t = getdate(); $today_timestamp = $t[0]; $due_date_timestamp = strtotime($node->field_duedate[0]['value']); if ($today_timestamp >= $due_date_timestamp){ $node_field[0]['value'] = $answer; }else{ $node_field[0]['value'] = "The answer will be shown on " . date('D, m/d/Y - H:s',$due_date_timestamp); } As you can see from the code, the "if" statement compares the timestamps, then returns the answer or a notice about the due date, depending on the comparison. Hope this is what you wanted to do - of course you have to hide the "answer" field from display. The code above could be easily adapted to display another field instead of that notice. I don't know how to do the same work inserting the result into the node's body, I might have a try at it if nobody else has a quick pointer about the solution to your additional request. Have fun, Francesco From entuland at gmail.com Thu May 21 11:03:58 2009 From: entuland at gmail.com (Francesco) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 13:03:58 +0200 Subject: [support] display/hide a cck text field based on the input cck date field In-Reply-To: <5803c9860905210326x1457c46fgc4a5622641a73a60@mail.gmail.com> References: <65a095700905200226t1efbef4dydba2b20107311c1e@mail.gmail.com> <5803c9860905200407h7a9b37b6hc2c9c29eccb1a8d5@mail.gmail.com> <65a095700905201817m6f83c3bat9617dcdcc1546549@mail.gmail.com> <5803c9860905210326x1457c46fgc4a5622641a73a60@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5803c9860905210403k6a539fd5yf7a321089b4115c8@mail.gmail.com> Hi again, a typo to fix and a note I forgot to add: > - a Date field named "due_date" the above was of course "duedate", as the mentioned code states: > $due_date_timestamp = strtotime($node->field_duedate[0]['value']); As for the note, you can see that the timestamp is created parsing a string. This means that you are not obliged to use a Date field - a plain text field will be fine - but using the Date module will ensure the date validation in first place. My code might not work if the string passed to strtotime is not correctly formatted. Be sure to feed it a correct time format. Have a nice day, Francesco 2009/5/21 Francesco : > Hi Mohan, > >> I'm trying to display/hide a cck field based on the input given in another >> field. My situation is i need to show a cck text field based on the server >> time...if it doesn't matches, I need to display another cck text field. > > here is what I've done: > I created a content type with the following: > - a Date field named "due_date" > - a Text field named "answer" > - a Computed field named "computed" > > Then I've given this code to the "computed" field: > > $answer = $node->field_answer[0]['value']; > $t = getdate(); > $today_timestamp = $t[0]; > $due_date_timestamp = strtotime($node->field_duedate[0]['value']); > > if ($today_timestamp >= $due_date_timestamp){ > ?$node_field[0]['value'] = $answer; > }else{ > ?$node_field[0]['value'] = "The answer will be shown on " . date('D, > m/d/Y - H:s',$due_date_timestamp); > } > > As you can see from the code, the "if" statement compares the > timestamps, then returns the answer or a notice about the due date, > depending on the comparison. > > Hope this is what you wanted to do - of course you have to hide the > "answer" field from display. The code above could be easily adapted to > display another field instead of that notice. > > I don't know how to do the same work inserting the result into the > node's body, I might have a try at it if nobody else has a quick > pointer about the solution to your additional request. > > Have fun, > Francesco > From brettev at gmail.com Fri May 22 05:33:03 2009 From: brettev at gmail.com (Brett Evanson) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 23:33:03 -0600 Subject: [support] Translation string import from xls file Message-ID: <972255370905212233g409e095dqb1ade8d2d9e03575@mail.gmail.com> Is there an easy way to get an excel sheet full of translations imported into Drupal? I know they aren't all going to match up exactly right with the strings in the system, but some of the short menu ones or forum titles and stuff like that should match up, right? How do other people do this with huge amounts of data? Are they having people access the translation interface directly? I could use a bit of direction here from someone who's done this before. Thanks in advance for any hints. -- Brett Evanson brettev at gmail.com From bharanikumariyerphp at gmail.com Fri May 22 05:38:03 2009 From: bharanikumariyerphp at gmail.com (bharani kumar) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 11:08:03 +0530 Subject: [support] Drupal5 Vs Drupal6 Message-ID: <2240033d0905212238n1b14189bsf404f9f93fcf49c0@mail.gmail.com> Hi all , I did one project in drupal 5.7 , Now i got one more drupal project , i thing drupal 6 is some what best compare to drupal5.7 , Can u please tell me , Difference between drupal 5 and drupal 6 Thanks in advance B.S.Bharani From ramprasath_explicit at yahoo.co.in Fri May 22 05:39:04 2009 From: ramprasath_explicit at yahoo.co.in (ram prasath) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 11:09:04 +0530 (IST) Subject: [support] avaliable updates Message-ID: <110856.33992.qm@web7604.mail.in.yahoo.com> HI Friends, ???? I want to add a available updates menu in my Logs? section ,,Can any 1 tel me? Is any modules available if that so means pleas tel me the module name and link to get that..... THANKS IN ADVANCE regards Ram Prasath Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with Yahoo! India Travel http://in.travel.yahoo.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From russgriechen at gmail.com Fri May 22 06:07:28 2009 From: russgriechen at gmail.com (Russell Griechen) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 01:07:28 -0500 Subject: [support] Drupal5 Vs Drupal6 In-Reply-To: <2240033d0905212238n1b14189bsf404f9f93fcf49c0@mail.gmail.com> References: <2240033d0905212238n1b14189bsf404f9f93fcf49c0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: D6 is the way to go...but be sure all the modules you use are available in D6...or the key modules at least. On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 12:38 AM, bharani kumar < bharanikumariyerphp at gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all , > > I did one project in drupal 5.7 , > > Now i got one more drupal project , > > i thing drupal 6 is some what best compare to drupal5.7 , > > Can u please tell me , Difference between drupal 5 and drupal 6 > > Thanks in advance > > B.S.Bharani > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -- =============== Russ Griechen http://RussGriechen.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From crazyguru85 at gmail.com Fri May 22 06:39:14 2009 From: crazyguru85 at gmail.com (crazy guru) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 23:39:14 -0700 Subject: [support] warning: call_user_func_array() [function.call-user-func-array] error. any solution? Message-ID: <65a095700905212339r3b056139o55e96cbe1f1b67c3@mail.gmail.com> Dear All, i got an error warning in my drupal site. I coulnt figure it out and how the error came. The error text below: warning: call_user_func_array() [function.call-user-func-array]: First argument is expected to be a valid callback, 'search_form' was given in .......\includes\form.inc on line 366. Whats the error and how can u solve this? I got to fix this soon. Thanks for your support in advance. With regards Crazyguru -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From crazyguru85 at gmail.com Fri May 22 06:47:39 2009 From: crazyguru85 at gmail.com (crazy guru) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 23:47:39 -0700 Subject: [support] Drupal5 Vs Drupal6 In-Reply-To: References: <2240033d0905212238n1b14189bsf404f9f93fcf49c0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <65a095700905212347r66e00b01m1117f71654f6ce9b@mail.gmail.com> You can go by Drupal 6, I would opt for it. There are certainly few major difference in the usage and support point of view. 1. D6 is the latest version of drupal. 2. You will get good support for D6 since most of the people use it. 3. D6 has an array of modules and there are more new modules coming up for d6 whereas d6 may or may not have. 4. D6 is an advanced version with advance features for developers and users. 5. Clear cache and drag & place features are great in d6. 6. Why not try a recent version than to go with d5! with regards Crazyguru On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:07 PM, Russell Griechen wrote: > D6 is the way to go...but be sure all the modules you use are available in > D6...or the key modules at least. > > > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 12:38 AM, bharani kumar < > bharanikumariyerphp at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi all , >> >> I did one project in drupal 5.7 , >> >> Now i got one more drupal project , >> >> i thing drupal 6 is some what best compare to drupal5.7 , >> >> Can u please tell me , Difference between drupal 5 and drupal 6 >> >> Thanks in advance >> >> B.S.Bharani >> -- >> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >> > > > > -- > =============== > Russ Griechen > http://RussGriechen.com > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hans www.koba.be 2009/5/22 bharani kumar > Hi all , > > I did one project in drupal 5.7 , > > Now i got one more drupal project , > > i thing drupal 6 is some what best compare to drupal5.7 , > > Can u please tell me , Difference between drupal 5 and drupal 6 > > Thanks in advance > > B.S.Bharani > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -- Hans Rossel KOBA Webdevelopment Kerkstraat 228 9050 Gent 09-334.52.60 0472-79.32.16 www.koba.be info at koba.be -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards B.S.Bharanikumar POST YOUR OPINION http://bharanikumariyerphp.site88.net/bharanikumar/ From hans.rossel at koba.be Fri May 22 10:30:56 2009 From: hans.rossel at koba.be (KOBA | Hans Rossel) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 12:30:56 +0200 Subject: [support] avaliable updates In-Reply-To: <110856.33992.qm@web7604.mail.in.yahoo.com> References: <110856.33992.qm@web7604.mail.in.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <51a9b8330905220330x64823a94md495cf290143a056@mail.gmail.com> I suppose you mean: http://drupal.org/project/update_status, for Drupal 6 its included in core, so just enable. Hans www.koba.be 2009/5/22 ram prasath > HI Friends, > > > I want to add a available updates menu in my Logs section ,,Can any 1 > tel me Is any > > modules available if that so means pleas tel me the module name and link to > get > > > that..... > > THANKS IN ADVANCE > > regards > Ram Prasath > ------------------------------ > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with Yahoo! India > Travel Click here! > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -- Hans Rossel KOBA Webdevelopment Kerkstraat 228 9050 Gent 09-334.52.60 0472-79.32.16 www.koba.be info at koba.be -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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That being said, I haven't had any trouble with the beta modules that I've installed (freelinking, imagecache). I haven't been brave enough to try the panels beta. Both versions perform nicely, and I wouldn't really consider that a good criteria for deciding which version to run on. -----Original Message----- From: support-bounces at drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces at drupal.org] On Behalf Of bharani kumar Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 2:09 AM To: support at drupal.org Subject: Re: [support] Drupal5 Vs Drupal6 Ho Great , Thanks to all, Now can please give brief , in the functional point view , and performance point view, compare to drupal5 , Thanks On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 12:39 PM, KOBA | Hans Rossel wrote: > Take a look at http://drupal.org/drupal-6.0 for the new stuff in Drupal 6. > You should certainly use Drupal 6 now. > > Hans > www.koba.be > > > > 2009/5/22 bharani kumar >> >> Hi all , >> >> I did one project in drupal 5.7 , >> >> Now i got one more drupal project , >> >> i thing drupal 6 is some what best compare to drupal5.7 , >> >> Can u please tell me , Difference between drupal 5 and drupal 6 >> >> Thanks ?in advance >> >> B.S.Bharani >> -- >> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > > > > -- > Hans Rossel > KOBA Webdevelopment > Kerkstraat 228 > 9050 Gent > 09-334.52.60 > 0472-79.32.16 > www.koba.be > info at koba.be > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -- ?????? ?????? ???? ?????? Regards B.S.Bharanikumar POST YOUR OPINION http://bharanikumariyerphp.site88.net/bharanikumar/ -- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] From mohammed at atexplorer.com Fri May 22 22:25:53 2009 From: mohammed at atexplorer.com (Mohammed@atexplorer.com) Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 01:25:53 +0300 Subject: [support] views question Message-ID: <4A172671.7080908@atexplorer.com> hello. I created a view that lists all users on my site. now I want to filter those users by those whose last access time was the same day as their created time. I want to use this view then with the module views bulk operations to email those users who created their account but never came back to the site after their activation. anybody has an idea how to create such a filter? -- All The Best, Mohammed Al-shar' From hans.rossel at koba.be Fri May 22 22:42:53 2009 From: hans.rossel at koba.be (KOBA | Hans Rossel) Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 00:42:53 +0200 Subject: [support] views question In-Reply-To: <4A172671.7080908@atexplorer.com> References: <4A172671.7080908@atexplorer.com> Message-ID: <51a9b8330905221542w6c070a35hb87f492af4426078@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I think you could do this without views or views bulk using the rules module to create a condition for action/trigger to send this email. If you make your condition a bit more flexible like if 1 month after registering last access = registerdate, then you could simply let the action send the mail automatically as soon as somebody has not started using his account after one month. Hans www.koba.be 2009/5/23 Mohammed at atexplorer.com > hello. > > I created a view that lists all users on my site. now I want to filter > those users by those whose last access time was the same day as their > created time. I want to use this view then with the module views bulk > operations to email those users who created their account but never came > back to the site after their activation. > > anybody has an idea how to create such a filter? > > -- > All The Best, > Mohammed Al-shar' > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -- Hans Rossel KOBA Webdevelopment Kerkstraat 228 9050 Gent 09-334.52.60 0472-79.32.16 www.koba.be info at koba.be -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mohammed at atexplorer.com Sat May 23 00:42:50 2009 From: mohammed at atexplorer.com (Mohammed@atexplorer.com) Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 03:42:50 +0300 Subject: [support] views question In-Reply-To: <51a9b8330905221542w6c070a35hb87f492af4426078@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A172671.7080908@atexplorer.com> <51a9b8330905221542w6c070a35hb87f492af4426078@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A17468A.9030002@atexplorer.com> hi. I don't think so. at least it must be very compliacted to setup, because i am sure there's no obvious way to do so. thanks. On 5/23/2009 1:42 AM, KOBA | Hans Rossel wrote: > Hi, > > I think you could do this without views or views bulk using the rules > module to create a condition for action/trigger to send this email. If > you make your condition a bit more flexible like if 1 month after > registering last access = registerdate, then you could simply let the > action send the mail automatically as soon as somebody has not started > using his account after one month. > > Hans > www.koba.be > > > > 2009/5/23 Mohammed at atexplorer.com > > > > hello. > > I created a view that lists all users on my site. now I want to > filter those users by those whose last access time was the same > day as their created time. I want to use this view then with the > module views bulk operations to email those users who created > their account but never came back to the site after their activation. > > anybody has an idea how to create such a filter? > > -- > All The Best, > Mohammed Al-shar' > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > > > > > -- > Hans Rossel > KOBA Webdevelopment > Kerkstraat 228 > 9050 Gent > 09-334.52.60 > 0472-79.32.16 > www.koba.be > info at koba.be -- All The Best, Mohammed Al-shar' -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave at davestechshop.net Sun May 24 17:18:44 2009 From: dave at davestechshop.net (Dave) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 13:18:44 -0400 Subject: [support] Need notifications module settings help Message-ID: <37dd75b0905241018i410685f5icffc791fac8eb9eb@mail.gmail.com> Hi- I have installed the notifications 6.x-2.0 module in Drupal 6.12. And I have defined a custom notification type. It is working. Can anyone tell me how to immediately enable my custom notification type for *ALL existing users*? In other words, I want to manually subscribe all existing users to this notification type. Thanks, Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From drupal.org-2008 at jt-socal.com Mon May 25 16:35:10 2009 From: drupal.org-2008 at jt-socal.com (John Thomas) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 09:35:10 -0700 Subject: [support] OpenID Server, Intimidated Message-ID: <4A1AC8BE.9080306@jt-socal.com> I'd like to set up an OpenID server, preferably in Drupal. I found the following modules, read the descriptions, and I don't get it. http://drupal.org/project/openid_ax http://drupal.org/project/openid_provider http://drupal.org/project/openid_sreg Could someone provide a high level overview or suggestion for setting up an OpenID server so that my users can log into other sites with the OpenIDs from my site? -- Sincerely, John Thomas From v.tolstov at selfip.ru Tue May 26 05:03:34 2009 From: v.tolstov at selfip.ru (Vasiliy Tolstov) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 09:03:34 +0400 Subject: [support] OpenID Server, Intimidated In-Reply-To: <4A1AC8BE.9080306@jt-socal.com> References: <4A1AC8BE.9080306@jt-socal.com> Message-ID: <1243314214.24942.0.camel@localhost> On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 09:35 -0700, John Thomas wrote: > I'd like to set up an OpenID server, preferably in Drupal. I found the > following modules, read the descriptions, and I don't get it. > > http://drupal.org/project/openid_ax > http://drupal.org/project/openid_provider > http://drupal.org/project/openid_sreg > > Could someone provide a high level overview or suggestion for setting up > an OpenID server so that my users can log into other sites with the > OpenIDs from my site? > I'm using http://drupal.org/project/openid_provider, work's fine. Expect for livejournal, lj breaks with error: bad_time_sig. -- Vasiliy Tolstov Selfip.Ru From hershelsr at gmail.com Tue May 26 08:41:08 2009 From: hershelsr at gmail.com (Hershel Robinson) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 11:41:08 +0300 Subject: [support] PayPal in eCommerce 5.x-3.3 Message-ID: <13b77a610905260141l64595e96s9f2da18e1037eb08@mail.gmail.com> I have a site with eCommerce 5.x-3.3 and I believe it was working correctly before, but now the PayPal checkout option is not working entirely correctly. The problem is that when customers are sent to PayPal.com, they are not presented with an option to pay via credit card--they must login or create a PayPal account. My guess is that the field "PayPal processing URL:" needs to be changed. It currently has "https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/xclick/?cmd=click" I tried other values, but no luck. Does anyone know how to address this issue? Thank you. From hershelsr at gmail.com Tue May 26 11:39:11 2009 From: hershelsr at gmail.com (Hershel Robinson) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 14:39:11 +0300 Subject: [support] PayPal in eCommerce 5.x-3.3 In-Reply-To: <13b77a610905260141l64595e96s9f2da18e1037eb08@mail.gmail.com> References: <13b77a610905260141l64595e96s9f2da18e1037eb08@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13b77a610905260439n3a8ba654x7b45cff3438219cb@mail.gmail.com> > My guess is that the field "PayPal processing URL:" needs to be > changed. It currently has > "https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/xclick/?cmd=click" Answer is: https://www.paypal.com/xclick/ From gordon at heydon.com.au Tue May 26 12:01:21 2009 From: gordon at heydon.com.au (Gordon Heydon) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 22:01:21 +1000 Subject: [support] PayPal in eCommerce 5.x-3.3 In-Reply-To: <13b77a610905260439n3a8ba654x7b45cff3438219cb@mail.gmail.com> References: <13b77a610905260141l64595e96s9f2da18e1037eb08@mail.gmail.com> <13b77a610905260439n3a8ba654x7b45cff3438219cb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Yes I was about to tell you that. I would recommend that you look into upgrading to 3.6 as you will not be able to upgrade to 6.x-4.0 until you have gotten to 3.6 Gordon. On 26/05/2009, at 9:39 PM, Hershel Robinson wrote: >> My guess is that the field "PayPal processing URL:" needs to be >> changed. It currently has >> "https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/xclick/?cmd=click" > > Answer is: > > https://www.paypal.com/xclick/ > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkob2hEACgkQngavurZvkrxYaACeLzxHXboehsA2/fnkwlaMf3uZ tJMAn35q2bnGmiaQ5csILqcAzTi4xJRx =XB+s -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From hershelsr at gmail.com Tue May 26 12:34:28 2009 From: hershelsr at gmail.com (Hershel Robinson) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 15:34:28 +0300 Subject: [support] PayPal in eCommerce 5.x-3.3 In-Reply-To: References: <13b77a610905260141l64595e96s9f2da18e1037eb08@mail.gmail.com> <13b77a610905260439n3a8ba654x7b45cff3438219cb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <13b77a610905260534w27eb76ebo4a0c93abb05c3a01@mail.gmail.com> > I would recommend that you look into upgrading to 3.6 as you will not be > able to upgrade to 6.x-4.0 until you have gotten to 3.6 Thank you. From mohammed at atexplorer.com Tue May 26 21:10:20 2009 From: mohammed at atexplorer.com (Mohammed@atexplorer.com) Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 00:10:20 +0300 Subject: [support] cvs command to checkout development release Message-ID: <4A1C5ABC.8000104@atexplorer.com> hello list. what is the correct command to use to checkout the latest 7.x-dev to help in testing it? what would I change in the following: $ cvs -z6 -d:pserver:anonymous:anonymous at cvs.drupal.org:/cvs/drupal checkout -d www -r DRUPAL-6-12 drupal thanks. Mohammed. -- All The Best, Mohammed Al-shar' From tloud365 at gmail.com Tue May 26 21:57:23 2009 From: tloud365 at gmail.com (T L) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 17:57:23 -0400 Subject: [support] cvs command to checkout development release In-Reply-To: <4A1C5ABC.8000104@atexplorer.com> References: <4A1C5ABC.8000104@atexplorer.com> Message-ID: how about cvs -z6 -d:pserver:anonymous:anonymous at cvs.drupal.org:/cvs/drupal checkout -d myworkingcopyofd7 -r DRUPAL-7-0-UNSTABLE-6 drupal -d myworkingcopyofd7 = your local directory -r DRUPAL-7-0-UNSTABLE-6 = the tag/label for that release drupal = what's being checked out looks like there's a tgz of the nightly build too on the d7 dev page. http://drupal.org/node/156281 Cheers, Tim On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Mohammed at atexplorer.com < mohammed at atexplorer.com> wrote: > hello list. > > what is the correct command to use to checkout the latest 7.x-dev to help > in testing it? what would I change in the following: > $ cvs -z6 -d:pserver:anonymous:anonymous at cvs.drupal.org:/cvs/drupal > checkout -d www -r DRUPAL-6-12 drupal > > thanks. > Mohammed. > > -- > All The Best, > Mohammed Al-shar' > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -- Tim Loudon t: 781.686.6096 e: tloud365 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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To check out the latest Drupal source code, commonly called "HEAD", use the command: $ cvs -z6 -d:pserver:anonymous:anonymous at cvs.drupal.org:/cvs/drupal checkout drupal Have a bookmark of this link http://drupal.org/node/320 -- Thanks a lot ----------------------------------------- http://ubuntuslave.blogspot.com/ From mohammed at atexplorer.com Tue May 26 22:35:59 2009 From: mohammed at atexplorer.com (Mohammed@atexplorer.com) Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 01:35:59 +0300 Subject: [support] cvs command to checkout development release In-Reply-To: References: <4A1C5ABC.8000104@atexplorer.com> Message-ID: <4A1C6ECF.1030000@atexplorer.com> Thanks Tim, what is the difference between this and checking out head? and how do I know if they moved to unstable-7? I know about the tgz file, I just prefer to install from cvs as I need to update very often. thanks. On 5/27/2009 12:57 AM, T L wrote: > how about > cvs -z6 -d:pserver:anonymous:anonymous at cvs.drupal.org:/cvs/drupal > checkout -d myworkingcopyofd7 -r DRUPAL-7-0-UNSTABLE-6 drupal > > -d myworkingcopyofd7 = your local directory > -r DRUPAL-7-0-UNSTABLE-6 = the tag/label for that release > drupal = what's being checked out > > > looks like there's a tgz of the nightly build too on the d7 dev page. > http://drupal.org/node/156281 > > Cheers, > Tim > > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Mohammed at atexplorer.com > > wrote: > > hello list. > > what is the correct command to use to checkout the latest 7.x-dev > to help in testing it? what would I change in the following: > $ cvs -z6 > -d:pserver:anonymous:anonymous at cvs.drupal.org:/cvs/drupal checkout > -d www -r DRUPAL-6-12 drupal > > thanks. > Mohammed. > > -- > All The Best, > Mohammed Al-shar' > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > > > > > -- > > Tim Loudon > t: 781.686.6096 > e: tloud365 at gmail.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] -- All The Best, Mohammed Al-shar' -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tloud365 at gmail.com Tue May 26 23:33:42 2009 From: tloud365 at gmail.com (T L) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 19:33:42 -0400 Subject: [support] cvs command to checkout development release In-Reply-To: <4A1C6ECF.1030000@atexplorer.com> References: <4A1C5ABC.8000104@atexplorer.com> <4A1C6ECF.1030000@atexplorer.com> Message-ID: Hey Mohammed, So the command I sent is for a specific release--you could alter this command to check out any release (denoted by the 'sticky tags' if you visit the repo through your browser http://cvs.drupal.org/viewvc.py/drupal/drupal/). It looks like the 7 dev releases are once every month or two, I'm not sure exactly what the schedule is. Every time a file is changed, its revision number increases and one or more tags can be applied to a given revision. For example, the INSTALL.pgsql.txt file hasn't changed for 17 months--this means the same revision has probably been used across many releases, whereas other files may change every release or many times during development between releases. Looking at the d7 project page, "The HEAD of the Drupal core CVS repository is now open for the forthcoming 7.x series." This means that anytime you don't specify a release/tag you get HEAD, which now points to d7. The diff between UNSTABLE-6 and HEAD could be significant in some areas and not in others. You'll probably want to talk to someone specifically involved in d7 dev, it might be more helpful to be on HEAD than UNSTABLE-6. I'm not sure how things are setup procedurally; but I'd guess there's wiki or handbook doc on the process, just don't know off-hand. If you go with HEAD, you'll probably want to stay on HEAD which means running cvs update on a fairly regular basis. I think there's a cvs commits mailing list. There are gui clients for cvs though. I used to work with a bunch of guys who really liked tortoisecvs--I think it's windows only. If you program as well, eclipse has built-in support for cvs and it's cross-platform. Hope that helps, Tim On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Mohammed at atexplorer.com < mohammed at atexplorer.com> wrote: > Thanks Tim, > > what is the difference between this and checking out head? and how do I > know if they moved to unstable-7? > > I know about the tgz file, I just prefer to install from cvs as I need to > update very often. > > thanks. > > > On 5/27/2009 12:57 AM, T L wrote: > > how about > cvs -z6 -d:pserver:anonymous:anonymous at cvs.drupal.org:/cvs/drupal checkout > -d myworkingcopyofd7 -r DRUPAL-7-0-UNSTABLE-6 drupal > > -d myworkingcopyofd7 = your local directory > -r DRUPAL-7-0-UNSTABLE-6 = the tag/label for that release > drupal = what's being checked out > > > looks like there's a tgz of the nightly build too on the d7 dev page. > http://drupal.org/node/156281 > > Cheers, > Tim > > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Mohammed at atexplorer.com < > mohammed at atexplorer.com> wrote: > >> hello list. >> >> what is the correct command to use to checkout the latest 7.x-dev to help >> in testing it? what would I change in the following: >> $ cvs -z6 -d:pserver:anonymous:anonymous at cvs.drupal.org:/cvs/drupal >> checkout -d www -r DRUPAL-6-12 drupal >> >> thanks. >> Mohammed. >> >> -- >> All The Best, >> Mohammed Al-shar' >> >> -- >> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >> > > > > -- > > Tim Loudon > t: 781.686.6096 > e: tloud365 at gmail.com > > ------------------------------ > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > > > > -- > All The Best, > Mohammed Al-shar' > > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -- Tim Loudon t: 781.686.6096 e: tloud365 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From fredthejonester at gmail.com Wed May 27 07:18:22 2009 From: fredthejonester at gmail.com (Fred Jones) Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 10:18:22 +0300 Subject: [support] civiCRM In-Reply-To: <511641.52272.qm@web7603.mail.in.yahoo.com> References: <511641.52272.qm@web7603.mail.in.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <177c0a10905270018s7f0e3441s8aca35c00c7dbdf1@mail.gmail.com> > ?? I am a Newer to Drupal and civiCRm .Can any one pleas tel me how to > install civiCRM > > in drupal5 and I am using windows environment.. Drupal 5 will only work with CiviCRM 2.0, no later versions Install directions are here: http://wiki.civicrm.org/confluence/display/CRMDOC21/Install+2.0+for+Drupal HTH From ramprasath_explicit at yahoo.co.in Wed May 27 07:39:47 2009 From: ramprasath_explicit at yahoo.co.in (ram prasath) Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 13:09:47 +0530 (IST) Subject: [support] getting these errors in install CIVICRM Message-ID: <250593.80197.qm@web7606.mail.in.yahoo.com> Thanks Jones,????? ???????? BUT I am getting these following errors warning: include_once(.CRM/Core/Config.php) [function.include-once]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in E:\WorkingProjects\drupal_five\modules\civicrm\drupal\civicrm.module on line 242.warning: include_once() [function.include]: Failed opening 'CRM/Core/Config.php' for inclusion (include_path='.;../drupal_five/modules/civicrm/;../drupal_five/modules/civicrm/\packages;.;C:\php5\pear') in E:\WorkingProjects\drupal_five\modules\civicrm\drupal\civicrm.module on line 242. Oops! - The path for including CiviCRM code files is not set properly. Most likely there is an error in the civicrm_root setting in your CiviCRM settings file (sites/default/civicrm.settings.php). ? civicrm_root is currently set to: ../drupal_five/modules/civicrm/. regardsRam Prasath Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter http://beta.cricket.yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Use fully qualified path for civicrm_root, meaning start with E:/ etc. From ramprasath_explicit at yahoo.co.in Wed May 27 08:12:41 2009 From: ramprasath_explicit at yahoo.co.in (ram prasath) Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 13:42:41 +0530 (IST) Subject: [support] DataBase Error Message-ID: <495910.15993.qm@web7608.mail.in.yahoo.com> HI friends, Thanks jones , ya I got that problem rite after I had given full directory ,But Now its showing error in database Database Error Code: Table 'drupal_five.civicrm_domain' doesn't exist, 1146 Error Details: [db_error: message="DB Error: no such table" code=-18 mode=callback callback=CRM_Core_Error::handle prefix="" info="SELECT config_backend FROM civicrm_domain WHERE ( civicrm_domain.id = 1 ) [nativecode=1146 ** Table 'drupal_five.civicrm_domain' doesn't exist]"] Pleas Tel me what i ve to do clear this error regards Ram Prasath Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with Yahoo! 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Stefan Op 27 mei 2009, om 10:12 heeft ram prasath het volgende geschreven: > HI friends, > > > Thanks jones , ya I got that problem rite after I had given full > directory ,But Now its showing > > error in database > > Database Error Code: Table 'drupal_five.civicrm_domain' doesn't > exist, 1146 > > Error Details: > > [db_error: message="DB Error: no such table" code=-18 mode=callback > callback=CRM_Core_Error::handle prefix="" info="SELECT > config_backend FROM civicrm_domain WHERE ( civicrm_domain.id = 1 ) > [nativecode=1146 ** Table 'drupal_five.civicrm_domain' doesn't > exist]"] > > > > Pleas Tel me what i ve to do clear this error > > > > regards > > > > Ram Prasath > > > > Own a website.Get an unlimited package.Pay next to nothing.* Click > here!.-- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] From fredthejonester at gmail.com Wed May 27 08:48:26 2009 From: fredthejonester at gmail.com (Fred Jones) Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 11:48:26 +0300 Subject: [support] DataBase Error In-Reply-To: <6A3F42BD-8986-4406-8024-11D6C6C0EC04@standoutdesign.nl> References: <495910.15993.qm@web7608.mail.in.yahoo.com> <6A3F42BD-8986-4406-8024-11D6C6C0EC04@standoutdesign.nl> Message-ID: <177c0a10905270148g31201adch535749ba91637f54@mail.gmail.com> > Can't you first read the README-file? It clearly says how you should install > it... I agree. The above error means you didn't run the automatic installer. I would say you should start again using the instructions I sent, and go through them one by one very carefully, and make sure to keep your DB names straight. CiviCRM will handle everything by itself, except the directory name. From ml at lairdutemps.org Wed May 27 23:55:27 2009 From: ml at lairdutemps.org (Daniel Caillibaud) Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 01:55:27 +0200 Subject: [support] How to override term links rendering Message-ID: <20090528015527.6b2e2bb0@h2.lairdutemps.org> Hi, Hi want to add some own css class in taxonomy terms links (depending on vocabulary), and change links order (depending on vocabularies too). "How?" is the question! - link_alter hook doesn't seem to be the right place because I don't find any param to add css class, and it doesn't play with links order. - it's possible to modify $terms html string in the preprocess_node function (in template.php), but it's doesn't sound like a clean way... I'll apreciate any clue ;-) -- Daniel Si l'intelligence artificielle fait une connerie, c'est pas grave, c'est une connerie artificielle. From torelad at gmail.com Thu May 28 16:44:51 2009 From: torelad at gmail.com (Dale McGladdery) Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 09:44:51 -0700 Subject: [support] How to override term links rendering In-Reply-To: <20090528015527.6b2e2bb0@h2.lairdutemps.org> References: <20090528015527.6b2e2bb0@h2.lairdutemps.org> Message-ID: The value of $terms is generated in the theme layer so it's appropriate to modify it there. Check out: http://api.drupal.org/api/function/template_preprocess_node/6 First, a $taxonomy variable is created with: $variables['taxonomy'] = taxonomy_link('taxonomy terms', $node); The value of $terms is created with: $variables['terms'] = theme('links', $variables['taxonomy'], array('class' => 'links inline')); Check out the theme_links doc (http://api.drupal.org/api/function/theme_links/6). If you can't add your CSS the way you want to using the $attributes parameter, you'll need to create a custom function. On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Daniel Caillibaud wrote: > Hi, > > Hi want to add some own css class in taxonomy terms links (depending on vocabulary), and change links order (depending on > vocabularies too). > > "How?" is the question! > > - link_alter hook doesn't seem to be the right place because I don't find any param to add css class, and it doesn't play with > links order. > - it's possible to modify $terms html string in the preprocess_node function (in template.php), but it's doesn't sound like a > clean way... > > I'll apreciate any clue ?;-) > > -- > Daniel > > Si l'intelligence artificielle fait une connerie, c'est pas grave, > c'est une connerie artificielle. > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > From ramprasath_explicit at yahoo.co.in Fri May 29 04:21:12 2009 From: ramprasath_explicit at yahoo.co.in (ram prasath) Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 09:51:12 +0530 (IST) Subject: [support] using Database of D5 to new drupal 6 Message-ID: <616344.94768.qm@web7603.mail.in.yahoo.com> Hi Friends I am going install drupal 6 in my website .I want to use a old base that i have from drupal 5 can u tel me can v able to use tat drupal5 database with modifications in our newly install drupal6 Thanks In Advance, Ram Prasath Bollywood news, movie reviews, film trailers and more! 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Here is how I did one site. http://www.for-my-kids.com/Upgrading-Drupal Good luck, -- Earnie -- http://r-feed.com/ -- http://for-my-kids.com/ -- http://www.4offer.biz/ -- http://give-me-an-offer.com/ From ml at lairdutemps.org Fri May 29 10:18:20 2009 From: ml at lairdutemps.org (Daniel Caillibaud) Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 12:18:20 +0200 Subject: [support] How to override term links rendering In-Reply-To: References: <20090528015527.6b2e2bb0@h2.lairdutemps.org> Message-ID: <20090529121820.5e47db74@h2.lairdutemps.org> Le 28/05/09 ? 09:44, Dale McGladdery a ?crit : > The value of $terms is generated in the theme layer so it's > appropriate to modify it there. Check out: > http://api.drupal.org/api/function/template_preprocess_node/6 > > First, a $taxonomy variable is created with: $variables['taxonomy'] = > taxonomy_link('taxonomy terms', $node); > > The value of $terms is created with: $variables['terms'] = > theme('links', $variables['taxonomy'], array('class' => 'links > inline')); > > Check out the theme_links doc > (http://api.drupal.org/api/function/theme_links/6). If you can't add > your CSS the way you want to using the $attributes parameter, you'll > need to create a custom function. Thanks a lot. I finally use link_alter (see below) > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Daniel Caillibaud wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Hi want to add some own css class in taxonomy terms links (depending on vocabulary), and change links order (depending on > > vocabularies too). > > > > "How?" is the question! > > > > - link_alter hook doesn't seem to be the right place because I don't find any param to add css class, and it doesn't play > > with links order. I was wrong. It's possible to add a 'class' attribute to links, and taxonomy links come all together, so it's possible to reorder if wanted. the solution I took : function edulibre_link_alter(&$links, $node) { // we just want to alter taxonomy terms if (strpos(key($links), 'taxonomy_term_') !== FALSE) { // our vocabularies specific css classes $classes = array( VID_KEYWORDS => 'keywords', VID_TYPE => 'type', VID_LEVEL => 'level', VID_SUBJECT => 'subject', ); foreach ($links as $key => &$link) { $link['attributes']['class'] = $classes[$node->taxonomy[substr($key, 14)]->vid]; } } } I don't play with order here, because I saw it's enough to change vocabularies order in admin/content/taxonomy. > > - it's possible to modify $terms html string in the preprocess_node function (in template.php), but it's doesn't sound like > > a clean way... > > > > I'll apreciate any clue ?;-) > > > > -- > > Daniel -- Daniel From neil at esl-lounge.com Sat May 30 01:28:39 2009 From: neil at esl-lounge.com (Neil Coghlan) Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 22:28:39 -0300 Subject: [support] On node submit, going straight to "e-mail page" form Message-ID: I have an idea for my site but am unsure how difficult it would be to implement. Basically, once a user submits a certain type of content, I'd like to redirect them to a page where they can notify their friends/family. I use the Print, Mail, PDF module to mail pages to friends, so ideally, once a user submits node/123, it would take them to printmail/123 (the URL that the module uses to mail pages) with possibly a customised message along the lines of "now you've published on our site, let your friends know!" or something equally cheesy. tough to do? thanks in advance Neil -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Check out: >> http://api.drupal.org/api/function/template_preprocess_node/6 >> >> First, a $taxonomy variable is created with: $variables['taxonomy'] = >> taxonomy_link('taxonomy terms', $node); >> >> The value of $terms is created with: $variables['terms'] = >> theme('links', $variables['taxonomy'], array('class' => 'links >> inline')); >> >> Check out the theme_links doc >> (http://api.drupal.org/api/function/theme_links/6). If you can't add >> your CSS the way you want to using the $attributes parameter, you'll >> need to create a custom function. > > Thanks a lot. I finally use link_alter (see below) > >> On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Daniel Caillibaud wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > Hi want to add some own css class in taxonomy terms links (depending on vocabulary), and change links order (depending on >> > vocabularies too). >> > >> > "How?" is the question! >> > >> > - link_alter hook doesn't seem to be the right place because I don't find any param to add css class, and it doesn't play >> > with links order. > > I was wrong. > It's possible to add a 'class' attribute to links, and taxonomy links come all together, so it's possible to reorder if wanted. > > the solution I took : > > function edulibre_link_alter(&$links, $node) { > ?// we just want to alter taxonomy terms > ?if (strpos(key($links), 'taxonomy_term_') !== FALSE) { > ? ?// our vocabularies specific css classes > ? ?$classes = array( > ? ? ?VID_KEYWORDS => 'keywords', > ? ? ?VID_TYPE => 'type', > ? ? ?VID_LEVEL => 'level', > ? ? ?VID_SUBJECT => 'subject', > ? ?); > ? ?foreach ($links as $key => &$link) { > ? ? ? ?$link['attributes']['class'] = $classes[$node->taxonomy[substr($key, 14)]->vid]; > ? ?} > ?} > } > > I don't play with order here, because I saw it's enough to change vocabularies order in admin/content/taxonomy. > >> > - it's possible to modify $terms html string in the preprocess_node function (in template.php), but it's doesn't sound like >> > a clean way... >> > >> > I'll apreciate any clue ?;-) >> > >> > -- >> > Daniel > > -- > Daniel > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] From bharanikumariyerphp at gmail.com Sat May 30 08:16:34 2009 From: bharanikumariyerphp at gmail.com (bharani kumar) Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 13:46:34 +0530 Subject: [support] Display latest article with lead Images and Teaser using view Message-ID: <2240033d0905300116v7234fcb9q1492b38a2ec545f7@mail.gmail.com> Hi All , How to display the latest article with lead image and teaser using views, For example , Am posting article Around 500 lines , the article contains around 4 images , Now i want to display only first image and Teaser , using view , Image must aligned in left , *Lorem Title * * IMAGE AREA Lorem Ipsum* is simply dummy text of the printing and typesetting industry. 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URL: From hans.rossel at koba.be Sat May 30 16:02:30 2009 From: hans.rossel at koba.be (KOBA | Hans Rossel) Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 18:02:30 +0200 Subject: [support] Display latest article with lead Images and Teaser using view In-Reply-To: <2240033d0905300116v7234fcb9q1492b38a2ec545f7@mail.gmail.com> References: <2240033d0905300116v7234fcb9q1492b38a2ec545f7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <51a9b8330905300902t7a15c996j8137c53b3ee1b457@mail.gmail.com> Did you try it? Seems like a bit too trivial to explain how to do it. Have you read any documentation on views? What does not work for you? Hans 2009/5/30 bharani kumar > Hi All , > > How to display the latest article with lead image and teaser using views, > > For example , > > Am posting article > > Around 500 lines , the article contains around 4 images , > > Now i want to display only first image and Teaser , using view , > > Image must aligned in left , > > *Lorem Title * > > * IMAGE AREA Lorem Ipsum* is simply dummy text of the printing and > typesetting industry. Lorem Ipsum has been the industry's standard dummy > text ever since the 1500s, when an unknown printer took a galley of type and > scrambled it to make a type specimen book. It has survived not only five > centuries, but also the leap into electronic typesetting, remaining > essentially unchanged. It was popularised in the 1960s with the release of > Letraset sheets containing Lorem Ipsum passages, and more recently with > desktop publishing software like Aldus PageMaker including versions of Lorem > Ipsum. > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -- Hans Rossel KOBA Webdevelopment Kerkstraat 228 9050 Gent 09-334.52.60 0472-79.32.16 www.koba.be info at koba.be -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bharanikumariyerphp at gmail.com Sun May 31 03:47:05 2009 From: bharanikumariyerphp at gmail.com (bharani kumar) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 09:17:05 +0530 Subject: [support] Display latest article with lead Images and Teaser using view In-Reply-To: <51a9b8330905300902t7a15c996j8137c53b3ee1b457@mail.gmail.com> References: <2240033d0905300116v7234fcb9q1492b38a2ec545f7@mail.gmail.com> <51a9b8330905300902t7a15c996j8137c53b3ee1b457@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2240033d0905302047s5d898b34lb077fe707139c49a@mail.gmail.com> I know the steps to display the latest or forthcoming article , But i don't know , here my requirement is , Article with lead image, Also that image must align left , Got it , Still am not started , Thanks On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 9:32 PM, KOBA | Hans Rossel wrote: > Did you try it? Seems like a bit too trivial to explain how to do it. Have > you read any documentation on views? What does not work for you? > > Hans > > 2009/5/30 bharani kumar > >> Hi All , >> >> How to display the latest article with lead image and teaser using views, >> >> For example , >> >> Am posting article >> >> Around 500 lines , the article contains around 4 images , >> >> Now i want to display only first image and Teaser , using view , >> >> Image must aligned in left , >> >> *Lorem Title * >> >> * IMAGE AREA Lorem Ipsum* is simply dummy text of the printing and >> typesetting industry. Lorem Ipsum has been the industry's standard dummy >> text ever since the 1500s, when an unknown printer took a galley of type and >> scrambled it to make a type specimen book. It has survived not only five >> centuries, but also the leap into electronic typesetting, remaining >> essentially unchanged. It was popularised in the 1960s with the release of >> Letraset sheets containing Lorem Ipsum passages, and more recently with >> desktop publishing software like Aldus PageMaker including versions of Lorem >> Ipsum. >> -- >> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >> > > > > -- > Hans Rossel > KOBA Webdevelopment > Kerkstraat 228 > 9050 Gent > 09-334.52.60 > 0472-79.32.16 > www.koba.be > info at koba.be > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -- Regards B.S.Bharanikumar http://php-mysql-jquery.blogspot.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bharanikumariyerphp at gmail.com Sun May 31 06:53:17 2009 From: bharanikumariyerphp at gmail.com (bharani kumar) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 12:23:17 +0530 Subject: [support] Suckerfish Menus Message-ID: <2240033d0905302353i3a933186m84a547f53c94afcb@mail.gmail.com> Hi All , Tell me the link for *Suckerfish* Menus module , I want this menu module , Thanks -- Regards B.S.Bharanikumar http://php-mysql-jquery.blogspot.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jensen.somers at gmail.com Sun May 31 09:06:13 2009 From: jensen.somers at gmail.com (Jensen Somers) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 11:06:13 +0200 Subject: [support] Suckerfish Menus In-Reply-To: <2240033d0905302353i3a933186m84a547f53c94afcb@mail.gmail.com> References: <2240033d0905302353i3a933186m84a547f53c94afcb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: http://drupal.org/project/nice_menus On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 08:53, bharani kumar wrote: > Hi All , > > Tell me the link for? Suckerfish?Menus module? , > > I want this menu module , > > > Thanks > -- > Regards > B.S.Bharanikumar > http://php-mysql-jquery.blogspot.com/ > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > From bharanikumariyerphp at gmail.com Sun May 31 09:38:38 2009 From: bharanikumariyerphp at gmail.com (bharani kumar) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 15:08:38 +0530 Subject: [support] Suckerfish Menus In-Reply-To: References: <2240033d0905302353i3a933186m84a547f53c94afcb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2240033d0905310238r1f1e5c26g5f8d3ee2d3787867@mail.gmail.com> ok thanks , On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Jensen Somers wrote: > http://drupal.org/project/nice_menus > > On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 08:53, bharani kumar > wrote: > > Hi All , > > > > Tell me the link for Suckerfish Menus module , > > > > I want this menu module , > > > > > > Thanks > > -- > > Regards > > B.S.Bharanikumar > > http://php-mysql-jquery.blogspot.com/ > > > > -- > > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -- Regards B.S.Bharanikumar http://php-mysql-jquery.blogspot.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From victorkane at gmail.com Sun May 31 13:34:41 2009 From: victorkane at gmail.com (Victor Kane) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 10:34:41 -0300 Subject: [support] Display latest article with lead Images and Teaser using view In-Reply-To: <2240033d0905302047s5d898b34lb077fe707139c49a@mail.gmail.com> References: <2240033d0905300116v7234fcb9q1492b38a2ec545f7@mail.gmail.com> <51a9b8330905300902t7a15c996j8137c53b3ee1b457@mail.gmail.com> <2240033d0905302047s5d898b34lb077fe707139c49a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: You could use image_attach (which comes with image module), but I don't recall if it allows align left (it aligns right by default). Check it out. Otherwise: 1. Simply attach the image to the nodes of type "article". 2. Theme the content type via node-article.tpl.php Do some research with the devel module (tab: devel render) to see how you can find and print out and wrap in selectors and theme the image attached to the node. Hint: iid Victor Kane http://awebfactory.com.ar http://projectflowandtracker On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 12:47 AM, bharani kumar < bharanikumariyerphp at gmail.com> wrote: > I know the steps to display the latest or forthcoming article , > But i don't know , here my requirement is , > > Article with lead image, > > Also that image must align left , > > Got it , > > Still am not started , > > Thanks > > On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 9:32 PM, KOBA | Hans Rossel wrote: > >> Did you try it? Seems like a bit too trivial to explain how to do it. Have >> you read any documentation on views? What does not work for you? >> >> Hans >> >> 2009/5/30 bharani kumar >> >>> Hi All , >>> >>> How to display the latest article with lead image and teaser using views, >>> >>> For example , >>> >>> Am posting article >>> >>> Around 500 lines , the article contains around 4 images , >>> >>> Now i want to display only first image and Teaser , using view , >>> >>> Image must aligned in left , >>> >>> *Lorem Title * >>> >>> * IMAGE AREA Lorem Ipsum* is simply dummy text of the printing and >>> typesetting industry. Lorem Ipsum has been the industry's standard dummy >>> text ever since the 1500s, when an unknown printer took a galley of type and >>> scrambled it to make a type specimen book. It has survived not only five >>> centuries, but also the leap into electronic typesetting, remaining >>> essentially unchanged. It was popularised in the 1960s with the release of >>> Letraset sheets containing Lorem Ipsum passages, and more recently with >>> desktop publishing software like Aldus PageMaker including versions of Lorem >>> Ipsum. >>> -- >>> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Hans Rossel >> KOBA Webdevelopment >> Kerkstraat 228 >> 9050 Gent >> 09-334.52.60 >> 0472-79.32.16 >> www.koba.be >> info at koba.be >> >> -- >> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >> > > > > -- > Regards > B.S.Bharanikumar > http://php-mysql-jquery.blogspot.com/ > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From bill at funnymonkey.com Sun May 31 23:28:15 2009 From: bill at funnymonkey.com (Bill Fitzgerald) Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 16:28:15 -0700 Subject: [support] Partial Data Returned On Search In-Reply-To: <4A230E5D.90205@comcast.net> References: <4A230E5D.90205@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4A23128F.70308@funnymonkey.com> Do you have any access control modules installed? If so, have you rebuilt the node access table? Steve Edwards wrote: > I'm working on an Ubercart site and am having a problem with all data > not being indexed for search. Using the default Dupal search, if I > search on the SKU field, I get results on some of the products, but > not all. I've rebuild the index and re-run cron multiple times, and > I've also verified that data is entered correctly in the SKU field for > all products, but for some reason I still don't get results returned > on some of the SKU numbers. Can anybody explain possible reasons why > this might be happening or give me a place I could start looking? > > Thanks. > > Steve > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] -- Bill Fitzgerald http://funnymonkey.com FunnyMonkey -- Click. Connect. Learn. ph. 503 897 7160