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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=238495923-14082006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I would strongly encourage you to have a look at
customizing the drupal themes. There's not much that you can't change in
terms of how drupal looks. If you have file level access you can customize
a great deal of the html that drupal outputs, particularly if using drupal
4.7. It is quite simple if you take a gander at the drupal theming
handbook, and then modify the template files found in the themes
directory. You could certainly comment out a great deal of the html
produced if that is really your desire. I don't advise it, however.
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color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=238495923-14082006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I'm currenlty in the process of developing a module that's
actually handling form posts, and reading/writing data to a separate database,
and only using drupal to provide the HTML producing API, just so that I don't
have to write a CSM in my own app. </FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=238495923-14082006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=238495923-14082006></SPAN>I</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
class=238495923-14082006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>f you're really
trying to get drupal to NOT handle the html, you should consider abandoning the
product as you've already indicated. IMHO it would be better than trying
to kludge together the product. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=238495923-14082006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Drupal is after-all first and formost a CMS. So if you're
don't want to use drupal to provide look and feel, I think you'd be better off
not using it all. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=238495923-14082006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Hope you don't mind me being direct here. Good luck,
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=238495923-14082006><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Dave</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B>
support-bounces@drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces@drupal.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Mil Imon<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 14, 2006 10:41 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
support@drupal.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [support] HTML template with drupal in
background<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>I'm the project manager for a large website.<BR>I've been hired to
take over for a contract that is 3 months overdue.<BR>The programmer chose
drupal and has a substantial but not-functional site designed.<BR>The owner
wants to use the design, but doesn't like drupal's layout which is more suited
for blogs than a commercial venue.<BR>I offered to copy the drupal layout into
HTML pages and solve the infamous drupal screen resizing problems.<BR>This also
allows us to walk-around drupal on its other limitations such as custom
templates not fitting standard modules.<BR>The problems getting drupal to output
back IN to the HTML. I've no problem submitting the data correctly, but drupal
always "wants" to output a full html page when all I want it to do is give me
back the SQL data and some content.<BR><BR>When I use a FORM action I can direct
drupal to another page, but this only works haphazardly, and I'd like a more
seemless interaction with drupal NOT handling the HTML!<BR><BR>I really need
some suggestions on this.<BR><BR>The drupal programmer went on VACATION with the
contract still unfilled and now four months overdue. We are paying 250.00
a day in site expenses until I can solve this problem, allowing us to terminate
the contract and apply for remunerations.<BR><BR>If it were not for the active
and supportive drupal community, this programmer would have burned me forever -
causing me to hate drupal. We bought the drupal book and I've been using
it, and I'm slowly starting to like it, despite its limitations.<BR><BR>I've
only been learning drupal for 45 days and have this dysfunctional site dropped
in my lap so I've really got my hands full: deciding which directions to lead,
reviewing whether to abandon the entire product, to continue using drupal, and
so on. This is quite a headache. Has anyone else had this happen to
them? What did you do?<BR><BR>My reaction after nearly 2 months at this, trying
to squeeze more work out of a contractor, is to ditch drupal and use straight
html with a shopping cart from our host company. I don't hate it, but it stands
between us and commercial success.<BR><BR>D<BR><BR><BR><BR><B><I>Greg Knaddison
- GVS <Greg@GrowingVentureSolutions.com></I></B> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq
style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">On
8/10/06, Josh Milane <JMILANE@ULEM.ORG>wrote:<BR>> Wikipage<BR>><BR>>
I guess I am doing it wrong.<BR><BR>Did you enable the correct access control
for the module?<BR><BR>><BR>> I cant wrap my head around
Drupal.<BR><BR>It can be little confusing at first (as are all CMS/CBF), but
gets<BR>easier and is well worth a little
effort.<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>Greg<BR><BR><BR>-- <BR>Greg Knaddison | Growing
Venture Solutions<BR>Denver, CO |
http://growingventuresolutions.com<BR>Technology Solutions for Communities,
Individuals, and Small Businesses<BR>-- <BR>[ Drupal support list |
http://lists.drupal.org/ ]<BR></JMILANE@ULEM.ORG></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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