WOW!<br><br>This is the BEST flame yet!<br><br>So, by not agreeing that drupal is god, and by not knowing all about it from day one, I'm a total ass!<br><br>THANKS SO MUCH!<br><br>I can see how the UNLIMITED effort you put into this "support" forum is keeping TONS of new people from bothering you with their problems.<br><br>I *apologize profusely* for troubling and annoying anyone with my difficulties in using Drupal and apparently, the internet itself, for I must be a total idiot. How did I learn how to type and breath at the same time?<br><br>It is my own fault for coming to a mailing list titled "support" and expecting that someone might actually offer constructive criticism. That's probably available on usenet at alt.reality.net.<br><br>It is my *unpardonable sin* to express my opinion of drupal. For that I most humbly apologize, and I swear I'll never disagree with you again, for you are in all likelihood, GODLIKE and flawless in form, and beauty. I
am an ugly worm.<br><br>Obviously, drupal is _way_too_cool_ for the likes of stodgy old business types like me! How dare I want to take over a website and fix it! What balls I must have. How dare I take my problems online and ask for assistance, when clearly my problems are entirely my own psychosis that have nothing to do with software, et al.<br><br><br>Don Lee<br><br>who is:<br><br>41. Holds a Top Secret clearance. A custodial single father for 12 years now. Programs in 27 languages. Speaks 3 languages. Writes scifi novels as a hobby. Is published. Has an IQ of 163. <br><br>And obviously, must be a total moron because he doesn't know drupal.<br><br>// bows. <br><br>// Thank you and good day.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><b><i>inkfree press <inkfree@gmail.com></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> "Mil Imon" wrote:<br><br><br>> No No, directness
helps a lot.<br><br>Taking you at your word...here are some direct thoughts...<br><br><br>> I'm the project manager for a large website.<br><br>Okay. :-|<br><br>> I've been hired to take over for a contract that is 3 months overdue. The<br>> programmer chose drupal and has a substantial but not-functional site<br>> designed. The owner wants to use the design, but doesn't like drupal's layout<br>> which is more suited for blogs than a commercial venue.<br><br>That's an opinion which is, I think, flawed. Since you've inherited the<br>project, perhaps your understanding of the range of Drupal's capabilities is<br>a bit more narrow than it needs to be.<br><br>> I offered to copy the<br>> drupal layout into HTML pages and solve the infamous drupal screen resizing<br>> problems.<br><br>"infamous drupal screen resizing problems"? That's the first I've heard of<br>this, so I would really conclude that "infamous" is the wrong word (besides<br>actually
_being_ the wrong word in other ways as well. ;)<br><br>Any "screen resizing problems" are related to HTML + CSS and not to Drupal,<br>which is a PHP content engine.<br><br><br>> This also allows us to walk-around drupal on its other limitations<br>> such as custom templates not fitting standard modules.<br><br>"Custom" and "standard" should be flags for you. Something that is "custom"<br>would have its own set of responsibilities and would not be considered a<br>limitation of Drupal.<br><br>> The problems getting<br>> drupal to output back IN to the HTML. I've no problem submitting the data<br>> correctly, but drupal always "wants" to output a full html page when all I<br>> want it to do is give me back the SQL data and some content.<br>> <br>> When I use a FORM action I can direct drupal to another page, but this only<br>> works haphazardly, and I'd like a more seemless interaction with drupal NOT<br>> handling the HTML!<br><br>Er? Yeah, I
would guess that using a CMS to do nothing but dig for SQL<br>queries is a bit of overkill. If you're a web programmer, then perhaps you<br>should be focusing on PHP and not on Drupal, per se.<br><br>That really might be the best course for you right now, since you<br>essentially are saying that you would like to use Drupal's PHP code but not<br>have it display anything to the view port (browser, etc.)<br><br>> The drupal programmer went on VACATION with the contract still unfilled and<br>> now four months overdue.<br><br>Hmm. Okay, it's either 3 months overdue, or 4 months.<br><br>> We are paying 250.00 a day in site expenses until I<br>> can solve this problem, allowing us to terminate the contract and apply for<br>> remunerations.<br><br>Sounds like you need:<br><br>a) a much better hosting plan (no site that I've ever heard of costs that<br>amount or there simply would not be a "web".)<br><br>b) some legal advice, as it reads here like you're not only
"contracted" to<br>finish the site but also somehow involved now in "remunerations" [which<br>should not even be on your radar]<br><br>c) lots of reading about Drupal, because apparently this just isn't the<br>software for you [Drupal runs _many_ commercial web sites and is not a "blog<br>engine", so your understanding of this software is already just a bit<br>skewed].<br><br><br>I can solve your $250 per day problem right now. Email me and I'll drop<br>your costs to about $0.07 per day. How's that for earning your keep with<br>your new "client"...you'll be the hero for many months to come.<br><br>(Of course, I could just drop your costs to, say, $100 per day and then<br>you'll still be hero and I can be even more happy that with the $0.07<br>arrangement I suggested.)<br><br><br>All in all: I think your post is really not a question at all, but a kind<br>of "dig" intended to rattle the cage and make you feel like someone else can<br>solve your problem.<br><br>Lookit:
If you can't handle the Drupal stuff, then you've only compounded<br>the problem and you will not be helpful to this "client" who pays exorbitant<br>rates for a web site.<br><br>But, that's just my opinion.<br><br>Perhaps the Support list is better for you than the Developers list.<br>(That's a real suggestion, since I think you need a more basic entrée into<br>the workings of Drupal.)<br><br>Over and out.<br><br>--<br>[ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]<br></blockquote><br><p> 
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