Well, those are similar things: I don't want them to use it *because* they probably don't know it. Frustrated users = not good, and bad html also = not good. I see on <a href="http://Drupal.org">Drupal.org</a> that a lot of people wish for the ability to associate input formats with content types, so maybe it will get into a future version. Meanwhile I will use the below and roles to hopefully give the users just as much as they need and not more.
<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/16/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">sander-martijn</b> <<a href="mailto:sander@sander-martijn.com">sander@sander-martijn.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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I've always thought the opposite of TinyMCE (or any wysiwyg editor).
It's not necessarily to restrict your users from using html but more to
remove the requirement of knowing html. <br>
<br>
However I do think you can get what you want: I think that if you turn
on full html globally but turn off the option for users to select,
require TinyMCE (also can be done globally I believe) and don't include
the html button in the TinyMCE editor, then TinyMCE will be able to
write all the html it needs to (restricting html will restrict it from
TinyMCE as well - this is because TinyMCE is merely a front-end mask to
what's really happening) while the user will never be able to see or
edit it. <div><span class="e" id="q_114708a97a4aa22b_1"><br>
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Jean Gazis wrote:
<blockquote cite="http://mid90f7ebd10708161400j71e907fcp151f39b92ee7c63a@mail.gmail.com" type="cite">If <ul> and <li> are enabled, shouldn't the
bulleted list format button work? I don't see where to associate the
input format with a content type. I don't want to give all users full
HTML, that's the whole point of installing TinyMCE. If I turn off line
breaks in my default format, won't it mess up my other content types? I
think that was why I turned them on. And TinyMCE worked or works
sometimes with the default input format as is. I feel like I am just
being dense.
<br>
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<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/16/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Metzler, David</b> <<a href="mailto:metzlerd@evergreen.edu" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">metzlerd@evergreen.edu
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wrote:</span>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Yes as sara has indicated. You can change the defaults at </font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Administer -> Site Configuration -> Input Formats. </font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">If you "Configure" the default format. Then select the
Configure tab, you'll be able to set which tags are allowed. The
default set is </font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><a> <em> <strong> <cite> <code>
<ul> <ol> <li> <dl> <dt> <dd></font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">When you enable tinymce you might also consider turning off
the "line break converter" on this screen as well. </font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Dave</font></span></div>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jean Gazis<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 16, 2007 12:48 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [support] different TinyMCE problems<br>
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<div><span>I don't want the
users to have to select input formats, I want them to be set for the
content type or field type. Is that possible?<br>
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<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/16/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Sarah Adams </b><<a href="mailto:mr.sanders@geekjock.ca" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">mr.sanders@geekjock.ca
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">>
I installed it, set up roles etc. It seemed to work fine with the first<br>
> custom content type. A few days later, it does not. In between I<br>
> installed Views and Viewfield, and created a new content type.<br>
><br>
> What I'm getting is, instead of formatted text, e.g. bulleted
list, it<br>
> just puts <br> or <div> between the items and removes
the line breaks,<br>
> like this:<br>
><br>
> "vegetable<br /> fruit<br /> vegetable<br />
fruit<br /> fruit<br /> <br>
> vegetable<br /> veggie<br /> fruit <br /> veg"<br>
><br>
> I'm sure this is some stupid thing I could figure out somehow, but
I<br>
> can't figure out where to start.<br>
<br>
You probably have the content set to use filtered html instead of full <br>
html. You can update this on a content item basis by clicking on input<br>
formats just below the TinyMCE editor, or site-wide by going to admin
><br>
site config > input formats.<br>
<br>
HTH!<br>
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