<span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);">Moses,</span><br style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"><br style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);">Lots of questions, I don't have much time now, but I thought a partial answer would at least make you feel like someone is listening.<br>
<br>FYI, OG is not what I would call a "beginners" module in Drupal. It's really complex, it's trying to do a lot and be very flexible which can make things confusing at times. If you could, I'd build a bunch of Drupal web sites without OG first before diving into OG. I appologize if you do already have a bunch of Drupal experience.<br>
</span><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Moses Elias <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:iom@netvision.net.il">iom@netvision.net.il</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p style="text-align: left; direction: ltr;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">I am new to Organic Groups, and I have a couple of basic
questions. If anyone could help out it would be much appreciated.</span></font></p>
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<p style="text-align: left; direction: ltr;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">1)</span></font></p>
<p style="text-align: left; direction: ltr;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p>
<p style="text-align: left; direction: ltr;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">When I watched Zacker's famous OG tutorial video-cast, I
noticed that when a new OG group is created, you can assign a mailing group
name in the typical yahoogroup format, for example, xxx, which is then
represented as <a href="mailto:xxx@mysite.com" target="_blank">xxx@mysite.com</a> when the mail is sent out to group members. Just
like in the</span></font></p>
<p style="text-align: left; direction: ltr;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">form: <a href="mailto:support@drupal.org" target="_blank">support@drupal.org</a> has, which this mailing list itself
belongs to.</span></font></p>
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<p style="text-align: left; direction: ltr;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Surely the drupal site is using a 6.x version flavor of
Drupal, and this can be achieved in 6.x - but currently I don't see how it's
done. Zacker did this when he created a new group? How can I achieve the same
thing? I don't see a field where the unique group-name can be provided as
input. </span></font></p>
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<p style="text-align: left; direction: ltr;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">I was told to try and use the og2list module. However, I
notice that og2list isn't available for any 6.x version. Is this feature
possible using a related module or maybe I've overlooked some feature?</span></font></p>
<p style="text-align: left; direction: ltr;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><div><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);">This list is, maybe ironically, is not Drupal connected in anyway. It uses Mailman software.</span><br style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);">
<br style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);">This tutorial might get you moving in the right direction:</span><br style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);">"Add Content to Your Site Via Email": <a href="http://drupal.org/node/200647">http://drupal.org/node/200647</a></span> <br style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);">
<br style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);">This wouldn't be a classic listserve. But it is possible to make a forum list serve like by using that tutorial, possibly in combination with a module like: <a href="http://drupal.org/watcher">http://drupal.org/watcher</a> and/or <a href="http://drupal.org/comment_notify">http://drupal.org/comment_notify</a></span><br style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);">
<br style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);">That og2list module looks dead. Try to find some people who used it and what they changed to.</span><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p style="text-align: left; direction: ltr;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">2)</span></font></p>
<p style="text-align: left; direction: ltr;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p>
<p style="text-align: left; direction: ltr;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">When you create a new organic group, any messages sent from
the organic group defaults to a mailing list style message. If I want the very
same mail to appear both as a mail message sent to a group member and is also
an identical forum message as well, how do I achieve that? I was told to try
and use triggers/actions but I don't see exactly how this can be done.</span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><div><font color="#3333ff">Moses, there are a lot of skills/experiences etc. you need to build a complex Drupal web site. Your requirements, from what I can tell, are complex. Should you decide on the triggers/actions approach to this problem -- there is often more than one way to solve a problem in Drupal --- start off by learning the skill to do something basic with it. A quick search turned up this tutorial... it's for Drupal 5 and uses the Workflow_ng module. There might be comments there or other links on how to do it in D6:<br>
<a href="http://drupal.org/node/175414">http://drupal.org/node/175414</a><br><br></font></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p style="text-align: left; direction: ltr;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">3)</span></font></p>
<p style="text-align: left; direction: ltr;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p>
<p style="text-align: left; direction: ltr;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">What is the relationship between OG forums and OG groups.
Can anyone please explain the relationship/difference between the two? </span></font></p>
<p style="text-align: left; direction: ltr;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p>
<p style="text-align: left; direction: ltr;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Can someone also explain the difference between OG forums
and regular forums? </span></font></p>
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<p style="text-align: left; direction: ltr;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">4)</span></font></p>
<p style="text-align: left; direction: ltr;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p>
<p style="text-align: left; direction: ltr;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">How do I have a one to one relationship between an OG group
that's created and an OG forum? I understand OG sends out a mail messages to
all members subscribed to an OG group. But I want the same mail message that's
sent out to the OG group members to also identically appear as a forum
message. </span></font></p>
<p style="text-align: left; direction: ltr;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p>
<p style="text-align: left; direction: ltr;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">One to one relationship between OG group email message and
OG forum message.</span></font></p>
<p style="text-align: left; direction: ltr;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Is that possible?</span></font></p>
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<p style="text-align: left; direction: ltr;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">5)</span></font></p>
<p style="text-align: left; direction: ltr;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p>
<p style="text-align: left; direction: ltr;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">How do I associate only one OG group with only one OG forum?
For each OG group that I create I want to have one and only one forum created.</span></font></p>
<p style="text-align: left; direction: ltr;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Authenticated users will be creating groups/forums on the
fly so I want to limit their scope for errors. How do I link between the two of
them?</span></font></p>
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<p style="text-align: left; direction: ltr;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">6) </span></font></p>
<p style="text-align: left; direction: ltr;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p>
<p style="text-align: left; direction: ltr;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Is it possible to moderate an OG group? In other words, any
email message that is sent out under the group's name, is it possible to
moderate the message if the group owner/administrator decides that this group
member should be moderated?</span></font></p>
<p style="text-align: left; direction: ltr;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p></div></div></blockquote><div><span style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);">Using the techniques described in the Tutorial above "publishing content via email" you create a content-type for this purpose, or use one that already exists, but make sure to set the default publishing mode to "unpublished." That is the start, at least, to an approach toward moderation. Again, there are lots of solutions to this, but that is the basic starting place.</span> <br>
<br><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);">As you move along and begin to break down the pieces... I've found that, either on the Drupal forums or list serves, and even IRC for that matter -- you are more likely to get helpful responses when the question is bite sized. That is indeed an overgeneralization, but it has generally been my experience.</span><br>
<br><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);">Hang in there,</span><br style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"><br style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);">Shai</span><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p style="text-align: left; direction: ltr;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Thanks,Moses</span></font></p>
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