I understand your idea to look at core modules only. I think this is a good decision for learning purposes.On the other hand, drupal's wealth is its community and the modules. My comments to between lines<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Mansour Al Akeel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mansour.alakeel@gmail.com">mansour.alakeel@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Maurice:<br>
Thank you. I appreciate the advice to play with both approachs. I<br>
think this is the best way to understand the core modules, and their<br>
limitations. I will use the first one, and keep in mind that I will<br>
have to follow the second one at some point. But for now I'd rather do<br>
the best I can with the core modules.<br>
<br>
Here's what I understood between the comments.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Maurice Mengel<br>
<<a href="mailto:mauricemengel@gmail.com">mauricemengel@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> I know only Drupal 6.X<br>
><br>
> Recepe 1: Without contrib modules:<br>
><br>
> tag blog posts with the taxonomy term "news"<br>
> tag blog posts with the taxonomy term "service"<br>
</div>In other words I need to create a taxonomy vocabulary "ie. catgories"<br>
and add the terms I need.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> [use a different node type if want different behavior. Blog has submitted by<br>
> on by default and breadcrumb has the name of the author; story also has<br>
> submitted on by default, page doesn't etc.]<br>
</div>I am not concerned at this point about the bread crumbs. It's very<br>
simple site. But to keep things as simple as possible (until I get the<br>
picture), I like to use either Page or Story for the news. I<br>
understand Blog entery may be more approperiate "I don't know why",<br>
but If the two core content-types can do it, then this will be my<br>
preference.<br>
<div class="im"><br></div></blockquote><div>page and story are fine. Maybe you want to rename them to news and service or not. Or you write instructions for your editors in the descriptions of these types.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="im">
> link to /taxonomy/term/number or /taxonomy/term/number/all<br>
</div>I don't understand this part. Not yet there. But my hosting "Goddady"<br>
dones't allow clean urls. It might be possible to work around, but not<br>
a priority now. Do you mean here to add a menu item with the path ?<br>
<div class="im"><br></div></blockquote><div>yes, menu entries should point to this path. Check if this works without clean urls. I am not sure. If not, you have no way to point to overview-pages which list all nodes of this type. At least, I don't know any.<br>
<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="im">
> create a role for news editor and one for service editor<br>
> use roles and node permissions to restrict publishing function to these<br>
> roles.<br>
</div>I will look into the permissions when I construct the functionality I want.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
<br>
><br>
> Disadvantage: the behavior of the overview page (river of news) which shows<br>
> all news and service nodes is not very configurable. At least not without<br>
> further ado.<br>
<br>
</div>Basically the site is as simple as it gets. I am going to need the<br>
(river of news page), and I don't know how further ado I need.<br>
The second example you gave me is very close to what I need<br>
<a href="http://mimo-project.eu/" target="_blank">http://mimo-project.eu/</a>. It's simple, and that's all I want at this<br>
point, as I am newbie to drupal. I may need to put a block on the<br>
first page showing the latest 3-4 news headlines. And a similar block<br>
for services .... etc.<br>
<br></blockquote><div>maybe you consider the frontpage functionality for this "block". Requires workflow settings with individual postings,i.e. not 100% what you specified. Frontpage is not very configurable without views. Alternative built-in block "Recent activity" or something with a similar name. Both functions come with core, if I remember correctly. <br>
<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
the main items : Home - News - services - About - contact.<br>
<br>
Nice to have, a single content type "News" that will appear later for<br>
the news editor.<br>
Again, I truly appreciate the advice to use both ways, and I think I<br>
will have to, and I have to learn the contrib module (I know now way<br>
around), but coming from different cms background, I want to know what<br>
does the basic offer, and how to get the most.<br>
<br>
Thank you.<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
><br>
> Recepe2: Other method: use views and node types<br>
> create node type "news" and "service" and use views2 to create an overview<br>
> page.<br>
><br>
> Advantage: no tags necessary. Simplifies input for your editors.<br>
> Disadvantage: you have install and learn contrib module views, but believe<br>
> me sooner or later you will want to do this!<br>
><br>
> If you have time, try both ways.<br>
><br>
> you might also want to look at one of my first sites<br>
> <a href="http://www.esem-music.org/" target="_blank">http://www.esem-music.org/</a> (recepe 1) and a later one of mine<br>
> (<a href="http://mimo-project.eu/" target="_blank">http://mimo-project.eu/</a>, recepe 2)<br>
><br>
> best<br>
> Maurice<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> ----------------------------------------------<br>
> Maurice Mengel<br>
> Music Archive<br>
> Ethnological Museum<br>
> National Museums in Berlin<br>
> <a href="http://www.ilkar.de" target="_blank">http://www.ilkar.de</a><br>
> ---------------------------------------------<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Mansour Al Akeel<br>
> <<a href="mailto:mansour.alakeel@gmail.com">mansour.alakeel@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Hello All:<br>
>> I just installed drupal and looking to get a website running. I still<br>
>> have a lot to learn. I want to avoid using any additional modules. One<br>
>> of the requirements is to create a menu item called "News". This will<br>
>> display a page of all the available news for the site. I like to have<br>
>> the ability to create a news page granted for news editors.<br>
>> Similarly I need a "Services" item. Using taxomony and content types,<br>
>> this should be possible. Right ?<br>
>> for example, I created an vocabulary called "News" with one term only<br>
>> "default" to be applied to a page. Is there a way to create content<br>
>> type for news only ? and How to add this to the menu ?<br>
>><br>
>> Any ideas or tutorials about how to proceed ?<br>
>> --<br>
>> [ Drupal support list | <a href="http://lists.drupal.org/" target="_blank">http://lists.drupal.org/</a> ]<br>
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