Aha! I think we are getting closer...<br><div class="im">
<ul><li><font face="Times New Roman">/public_html/drupal/ - (new install where the problem lies) has only .htaccess.txt and not .htaccess</font>
  </li><li><font face="Times New Roman">/public_html/drupal-7.0/ - has both</font></li></ul>Copied the file over and now the check box appears which I can use to enable clean urls and I can now access /admin/modules for instance. <br>
<br>THANKS ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND BRAIN CELL ENERGY!!<br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 12:17 PM, SeaJay Designs <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:seajaydesigns@hotmail.co.uk">seajaydesigns@hotmail.co.uk</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">

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<div>Sorry I misread one of your earlier emails.</div>
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<div>Anyway you say you have 2 installs </div><div class="im">
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  <li><font face="Times New Roman">/public_html/drupal/ </font>
  </li><li><font face="Times New Roman">/public_html/drupal-7.0/</font></li></ul>
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<div><font size="3" face="Calibri">Is the .htaccess file in “public_html/” or 
“public_html/drupal (and/or drupal-7.0)”?</font></div>
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<div><font size="3" face="Calibri">this was sent at 20:16 (UK)</font></div>
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<div><font size="3" face="Calibri">CJ</font></div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="tony@tony-mac.com" href="mailto:tony@tony-mac.com" target="_blank">tony maciejowski</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 24, 2011 7:54 PM</div><div><div></div><div class="h5">
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="support@drupal.org" href="mailto:support@drupal.org" target="_blank">support@drupal.org</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [support] Lost admin menu</div></div></div></div></div>
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<div style="font-style:normal;display:inline;font-family:&#39;Calibri&#39;;color:#000000;font-size:small;font-weight:normal;text-decoration:none"><div><div></div><div class="h5">This 
is the new install I have been asking you good people about. It&#39;s now exactly 
noon here in Hollywood, Ca.<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 11:38 AM, SeaJay Designs <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:seajaydesigns@hotmail.co.uk" target="_blank">seajaydesigns@hotmail.co.uk</a>&gt;</span> 
wrote:<br>
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  <div>Good. Have you tried “clean URLs” with the new install?</div>
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  <div>BTW. I sent my last email at 19:06 and it says on the list that it was 
  sent at 19:26 so god knows what is happening <img style="border-bottom-style:none;border-left-style:none;border-top-style:none;border-right-style:none" alt="Smile" src="cid:EC9A175A594A45ECB060C957A2470E89@UserPC"></div>

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  <div>CJ</div>
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  <div><b>From:</b> <a title="tony@tony-mac.com" href="mailto:tony@tony-mac.com" target="_blank">tony maciejowski</a> </div>
  <div><b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 24, 2011 7:17 PM</div>
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  <div>
  <div><b>To:</b> <a title="support@drupal.org" href="mailto:support@drupal.org" target="_blank">support@drupal.org</a> </div>
  <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [support] Lost admin 
  menu</div></div></div></div></div>
  <div> </div></div>
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  <div>yup. it&#39;s there<br><br>
  <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 11:06 AM, SeaJay Designs <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:seajaydesigns@hotmail.co.uk" target="_blank">seajaydesigns@hotmail.co.uk</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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    <div>A quick Google search reviled that Bluehost have the Apache Rewrite_ 
    Mod is enabled by default.</div>
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    <div>Can you make sure that you have the .htaccess in your web root 
    “public_html”</div>
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    <div><b>From:</b> <a title="tony@tony-mac.com" href="mailto:tony@tony-mac.com" target="_blank">tony maciejowski</a> </div>
    <div><b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 24, 2011 6:55 PM</div>
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    <div>
    <div><b>To:</b> <a title="support@drupal.org" href="mailto:support@drupal.org" target="_blank">support@drupal.org</a> </div>
    <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [support] Lost admin 
    menu</div></div></div></div></div>
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    <div>
    <div></div>
    <div>something for my host?<br><br>
    <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Jamie Holly <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:hovercrafter@earthlink.net" target="_blank">hovercrafter@earthlink.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
    <blockquote style="border-left:#ccc 1px solid;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><u></u>
      <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">Drupal 7 automatically tests for 
      clean URL support when you install it. You do need to have the Apache 
      mod_rewrite module to allow it and allow overrides in Drupal&#39;s directory, 
      so Apache will parse the .htaccess file. <br>
      <div><pre cols="72">Jamie Holly
<a href="http://www.intoxination.net" target="_blank">http://www.intoxination.net</a> 
<a href="http://www.hollyit.net" target="_blank">http://www.hollyit.net</a></pre><br></div>
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      <div>On 6/24/2011 1:40 PM, tony maciejowski wrote: 
      <blockquote type="cite">I got to the page where it says <br>
        <ul>
          <li><a href="http://tony-mac.com/drupal/?q=admin/config/search/clean-urls" target="_blank">Clean URLs</a> 
          <div>Enable or disable clean URLs for your site.</div></li></ul>When I 
        click on that link I to a page where it says<br>Use URLs like <code><a href="http://example.com/user" target="_blank">example.com/user</a></code> 
        instead of <code><a href="http://example.com/?q=user" target="_blank">example.com/?q=user</a></code>. If you are directed to a 
        <i>Page not found (404)</i> error after testing for clean URLs, see the 
        <a href="http://drupal.org/node/15365" target="_blank">online 
        handbook</a>.<br>and a button to run the clean URL Test. When i run it I 
        get no response<br><br><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Jamie Holly 
        <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:hovercrafter@earthlink.net" target="_blank">hovercrafter@earthlink.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
        <blockquote style="border-left:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
          <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">Just go to /admin 
          (index.php?q=admin if you don&#39;t have clean urls). From there you got 
          the admin overview page and can click on modules.<br><font color="#888888"><pre cols="72">Jamie Holly
<a href="http://www.intoxination.net" target="_blank">http://www.intoxination.net</a> 
<a href="http://www.hollyit.net" target="_blank">http://www.hollyit.net</a></pre></font>
          <div>
          <div><br>On 6/24/2011 1:20 PM, tony maciejowski wrote: 
          <blockquote type="cite">So what am I doing wrong? Yes I was logged 
            in. <br><br>
            <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Todd <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:todd@savagevenus.net" target="_blank">todd@savagevenus.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
            <blockquote style="border-left:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
              <div style="word-wrap:break-word">In Drupal 7, the modules page 
              is at admin/modules. 
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              <div>Regards,</div>
              <div>Todd</div>
              <div><font color="#888888"><br></font>
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              <div>
              <div>On 24 Jun 2011, at 12:08, tony maciejowski wrote:</div>
              <div> </div></div></div>
              <blockquote type="cite">
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                <div>Tried it. Also get a 404.<br><br>
                <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Sachiko 
                Halper <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:shalper@sfsu.edu" target="_blank">shalper@sfsu.edu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
                <blockquote style="border-left:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid;margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-size:11pt">admin/build/modules</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-size:11pt">should do 
                  it.</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-size:11pt"></span> </p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-size:11pt">Sachiko 
                  Halper</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-size:11pt">Academic 
                  Technology - SF State</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-size:11pt"><a href="tel:415-338-7640" value="+14153387640" target="_blank">415-338-7640</a></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-size:11pt"><a href="mailto:shalper@sfsu.edu" target="_blank">shalper@sfsu.edu</a></span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt"> <a href="mailto:support-bounces@drupal.org" target="_blank">support-bounces@drupal.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:support-bounces@drupal.org" target="_blank">support-bounces@drupal.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of 
                  </b>tony maciejowski<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 23, 2011 
                  4:47 PM</span></p>
                  <div><br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:support@drupal.org" target="_blank">support@drupal.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: 
                  [support] Lost admin menu</div>
                  <div> </div></div></div>
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                  <p style="margin-bottom:12pt" class="MsoNormal">Never mind ... 
                  got it. </p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 4:44 PM, tony 
                  maciejowski &lt;<a href="mailto:tony@tony-mac.com" target="_blank">tony@tony-mac.com</a>&gt; wrote:</p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">Dear All,<br>Silly mistake! Disabled the 
                  normal admin toolbar before enabling the better one. What is 
                  the URL to get to the modules page to enable 
                  it?<br>Thanks<br><span style="color:rgb(136,136,136)">Tony</span></p></div>
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