<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Roger,<div><br></div><div>You're still not being very clear about your actual setup, but I understand how difficult it can be to articulate questions that you don't even know you need to ask. ;-)</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On 15 Jul 2011, at 2:27 AM, Roger wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Hi all<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I have a hd with ubuntu 11.04 server installed.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I followed the instructions to install Aegir on the server but it<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">gives<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">errors at the end of the install.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Google tells of others experiencing the same errors but gives no<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">resolution.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">What errors?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote>--Errors are:<br><br>Project drush-make contains no modules<br><br>dpkg: error processing aegir-hostmaster (--configure)<br><br>Subprocess installed post installatiom script returned error exit status 1<br><br>Package aegir-hostmaster not configured yet<br><br>Dependency problems - leaving unconfigured<br><br>Errors were encountered while processing<br><br>aegir -- hostmaster<br><br>aegir<br><br>subprocess /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code(1)</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I'm afraid I can't help you there. TBH I had a similar error when trying to install Drush myself, but gave up on it and haven't had the time or inclination to solve it yet. </div><div><br></div><div>It seems to me that you're attempting too many learning curves at once, though. Aegir will be a 'nice to have' once you have a few dozen sites to maintain, no doubt, but you need to focus on getting the servers setup correctly first. Then Drush, then Aegir.</div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I installed firefox on the server but think it won't work unless there<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">is a windows manager of some sort.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">What is the smallest windows manager required to run firefox on a<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">server and what else should be installed.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I haven't tried it on Ubuntu, but Xfce is lightweight. I imagine "apt-<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">get install xfce" should pick up any dependencies required.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">But why does it have to be "the smallest"?</blockquote></div></blockquote><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">---Small capacity very old hard drive purely for learning purposes and <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">it's the same size as the server allocation.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote>My system is:<br>---I have a 40 gig hard drive set up in my pc with ubuntu 11 server so <br>that I can learn what to do on the real server</div></blockquote><div><br></div>The server-guide at <a href="https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/serverguide.pdf">https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/serverguide.pdf</a></div><div> is very comprehensive.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>---I have another hard drive with Ubuntu 11 desktop that is used for <br>day to day work, I don't want to do anything that could stuff up files <br>on this drive, did that once, don't wish to do it again.<br>It has Drupal 6.22 and Drupal 7.4 whach are used for dev of the site I'm <br>working on.</div></blockquote><div><br></div>Rather use that 40Gb hd for backups and learn how to make snapshots and rollbacks so you can't stuff up anything. :-)</div><div><br></div><div>The differences between Server & Desktop are insignificant, really. You can as comfortably run everything you need on the Desktop version, and just as comfortably use the server guide documentation.</div><div><br></div><div>The only real differences are the server installation comes with the AMP stack plus mail servers, etc. on the distro, whereas the desktop version comes with apps and a windowing system.</div><div><br></div><div>Also the RAID and LVM setup options are more readily accessible on the server installation.</div><div><br></div><div>If you want to have the best of both worlds, and learn how to do everything properly, start with a fresh server installation (using the guide), then just 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' on top of it. Or just install AMP on the desktop. (Which you must have done already if it's got Drupal running on it.)</div><div><br></div><div>Otherwise you could use virtualbox and turn the 40Gb hd's current server installation into a virtual machine running under your current desktop. Presuming you're not running a mail server with spamassassin and amavis, etc. it doesn't need much memory. 512Mb would do comfortably. And, BTW, 40Gb is plenty of space to run server and full desktop.</div><div><br></div><div>But you really don't need both - unless you have a dedicated server PC - so you're just adding needless complexity by having both on the same computer. </div><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>---I have another hard drive with Fedora 14 which I use for <br>experimentation.<br>It also has Drupal 6.22 and Drupal 7.4 so that I can experiment without <br>upsetting the ubuntu system.<br>There is no aegir install for Fedora 14 that I have found.<br><br>The other sysadmin wants to use Ubuntu on the server</div></blockquote><div><br></div>Um, how many PCs do you have? If this is in a work environment, rather setup the server on another machine.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>Can someone please point me to an Aegir tutorial or script that actually <br>does install properly<br><br>Try look around <a href="http://community.aegirproject.org/">http://community.aegirproject.org/</a><br><br>--- This is where I got the original install script that simply does not <br>work, they reccomend to use apt-get install drush then apt-get install <br>aegir on a vanilla server install -- this is where I am at for now. I'm <br>on my 3rd learning attempt - this is all very new for me<br>I'll go investigate further but find that much of the information out <br>there dates back to 2007/8, there seems to be very little that is modern <br>and accurate.<br><br><blockquote type="cite">Are the server and the desktop OSs on the same PC? If so, then do what<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Luke said. Or just mount the hard drive and work on it...?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Or you could just install mysql and apache on your current Ubuntu<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">desktop, and try to install Aegir there.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">---I did try that originally but got the same errors so removed everything<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">If the server is on a separate PC, you could install Xfce as well as<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">vncserver to accesss it remotely. Or you could obviously just ssh in<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">to "work on the server hard drive".<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote>I've heard about ssh. How do I ssh into a hard drive on the same pc:</div></blockquote><div><br></div>First you'd have to get it running under virtualbox. Then you're going to have one more major learning curve to bridge the networks if you're running the server inside virtualbox. :-)</div><div><br></div><div>On Ubuntu server, sshd comes pre-installed. On the desktop you would need to 'apt-get install openssh-server'.</div><div><br></div><div>Check the server guide (Remote Administration) for more info and how to setup keys, etc. </div><div><br></div><div>And you can use putty.exe to ssh in from a Windows PC. </div><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>I'am very grateful for the help and hand holding, I'm way out of my <br>depth here<br>Thanks</div></blockquote><div><br></div></div>NP. Just re-think your strategy a little, okay? And this isn't the right forum, but you can email me directly for help with Ubuntu. </div></body></html>