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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Ah ha - paragraph and heading space.
That might be part of the solution, given that they might be set
differently in the Adaptive sub-theme vs. the old CTI-Flex. And
you are correct about white space. I tried to pay attention to
that in the D6 site (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.hampton.lib.nh.us">http://www.hampton.lib.nh.us</a>), but the D7
conversion added just a wee bit too much for my taste. Given that
we are a library site, we also need to pack in as much information
"above the fold" as possible without straining the eyes. Thanks
again for the response.<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Best,
Darrell Eifert
Lane Memorial Library
(603) 926-3368</pre>
On 11/28/2014 3:04 PM, Jamie Holly wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Honestly, that isn't at all bad.
White space is very key in layout. You don't want things that
close together, as it strains the readers eyes, especially in a
time when we have multiple device screen resolutions. Here's a
great article on it:<br>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://blog.teamtreehouse.com/white-space-in-web-design-what-it-is-and-why-you-should-use-it">http://blog.teamtreehouse.com/white-space-in-web-design-what-it-is-and-why-you-should-use-it</a><br>
<br>
It's hard to tell from the screenshot, but most likely something
adding to the space is bottom margins on paragraphs and
top/bottom margins on headings. It's about impossible for a
theme designer to know any and all combinations of visual
elements that a user is going to incorporate in their site,
especially given the flexibility of Drupal. For example, you
might have paragraph tags have a 15 px bottom margin, but have
lists use a 40px bottom margin. If a panel/block ends with a
paragraph, it would have the 15px, but have the same panel/block
end in a list and you get that 40px. That's why it's very common
to add custom CSS into any site, just so you can tweak it right
where you want it.<br>
<br>
Having said all that, there are less than 3,000 installs of that
theme for Drupal 7, so it's not really all that popular. Once
you get past the biggies like Zen, Bootstrap, AdaptiveTheme and
Omega, the popularity of themes really drops off quick. That's
because many end up using one of those themes as a base then
tweak everything else out to their likings in a sub-theme. <br>
<br>
<br>
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On 11/28/2014 2:23 PM, Darrell Eifert wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hello Jamie --<br>
<br>
Thank you for the suggestions. I may eventually have to go
that route, but I was thinking that if Panels worked fine "out
of the box" on the D6 site, that I must be overlooking a
simple setting in the D7 version that is resulting in the
extra vertical spacing. I would be surprised if the
programmers released such a popular module that came
pre-configured / hard-coded to render a default page with
such large vertical breaks ... (see attached screenshot).<br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Best,
Darrell Eifert
Lane Memorial Library
(603) 926-3368</pre>
On 11/28/2014 11:51 AM, Jamie Holly wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">You do not want to edit any
files. Instead create a new theme that is a sub theme of the
theme you are using and create a new CSS file in there, with
the new rules you need. <br>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.drupal.org/node/225125">https://www.drupal.org/node/225125</a><br>
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The other option is a custom module adding the new CSS file
on hook_init, but going the subtheme is generally the best
route.<br>
<br>
From your home page, right click on the panel that is spaced
wrong and select "inspect element" (Chrome and Firefox).
That will show you the DOM tree and the style rules applied
to it. You may have to work up the tree, but find the one
giving the padding and/or margins that is causing the
problem. Copy that style rule to your new CSS sheet and
adjust the padding and/or margin to what you want. <br>
<br>
This is a pure CSS fix that is one of the basic fundamentals
of building any site (Drupal or not). It won't affect the
staff's ability to create announcements, as the fixes would
be universal throughout the site. <br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Jamie Holly
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On 11/28/2014 11:29 AM, Darrell Eifert wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hello Tony --<br>
<br>
Not sure ... we've pretty much used themes and modules
"out of the box" in creating the D6 site and they've
worked remarkably well. Our staff is trained to use the
Panels UI and creates announcement 'snippets' on a regular
basis to update the main page. If I could keep this
functionality that would be fine -- what kind of css
modification were you thinking of, and to what files?<br>
<br>
-- Darrell<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Nov 28, 2014 7:49 AM, "Darrell
Eifert" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:deifert@hampton.lib.nh.us">deifert@hampton.lib.nh.us</a>>
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--<br>
<br>
We just upgraded a copy of our Drupal 6 site using the
Zen / CTI-Flex<br>
theme to Drupal 7 using an AtaptiveTheme base with the
Mix and Match<br>
theme. Everything went smoothly, except for how
Panels behaves in the<br>
new D7 theme. We have a simple two-column center
panel between two side<br>
columns (see <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.hampton.lib.nh.us" target="_blank">http://www.hampton.lib.nh.us</a>
for the current D6 production<br>
site), and the D7 version of Panels creates an
unacceptably huge amount<br>
of vertical white space between the panels. If I
change each individual<br>
panel to "no markup", the vertical panel space
shrinks, but I also lose<br>
the side and center margins of the two columns, which
I would like to keep.<br>
<br>
Before I start trying to change the Panels module
code, does anyone have<br>
a simple suggesting for reducing the vertical space
between panels in a<br>
column?<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance ...<br>
<br>
Darrell Eifert<br>
Lane Memorial Library<br>
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