<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><DIV><DIV>On Aug 7, 2007, at 12:13 PM, Peter Apokotos wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR><DIV><DIV>On Aug 2, 2007, at 2:21 PM, Kieran Lal wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; ">Peter, could you pick the most appropriate group on<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN><A href="http://groups.drupal.org"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 238); -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: underline; ">http://groups.drupal.org</SPAN></A><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>and then work with the g.d.o folks to get a chipin fundraiser started to build the dreamweaver extension. <SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN><BR><BR>How about $3K for starters, and see how many folks chipin?<BR><BR>In the last Drupal user experience survey of 2000 administrators, theming was consistently the number one issue of most important, hardest to do for most Drupal admins. It's my understanding a weak implementation of Dreamweaver extensions for Mambo brought a lot of designers to Mambo simply because they could recognize the tools they needed. <SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN><BR><BR>Also, any necessary changes to Drupal 6 that would need to be made to support the extension could still fall under the code freeze if you started now.<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR>Kieran</SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><DIV>I am disabled and have been since late 2004 and I am on the waiting list for Social Security Disability here in Florida where there is a two year backlog.</DIV><DIV>And the only other money I generate since becoming disabled is selling most of my personal belongings and the $100.00 a year I make with Google Adsense.</DIV><DIV>And I have child support and other bills on top of that like my doctor visits and pain medication. Unless my lawsuit against the company that caused my disabilities in the car accident that totaled my car by their Semi I don't think that I can personally afford this 3k myself. I was thinking that it wouldn't cost anywhere near that much just for an extension of course I have seen Dreamweaver extensions that are 299.00 and think "are they out of their mind?"</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>At 3K we would need:</DIV><DIV>600 people to donate $5.00 each.</DIV><DIV>300 people to donate $10.00 each.</DIV><DIV>200 people to donate $15.00 each.</DIV><DIV>150 people to donate $20.00 each.</DIV><DIV>120 people to donate $25.00 each.</DIV><DIV>60 people to donate $50.00 each. And I would be willing to do this? Are there enough Drupal/Dreamweaver Meb Monkeys out there willing to pay this amount?</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV><DIV>Count me as extremely skeptical that Dreamweaver is anything but a web 1.0 tool (my rant on this: <A href="http://pingv.com/blog/laura/200703/adobes-creative-suite-for-web-1-0">http://pingv.com/blog/laura/200703/adobes-creative-suite-for-web-1-0</A> ), but I'm certainly happy to be proven wrong. Personally I don't feel that web design requires a wysiwyg application, but what seems obvious is that many people -- and universities -- are resistant or intimidated by CSS. I started by hand coding in the early '90s before the various web design apps came out, so maybe I'm coming from a different place, but learning CSS fundamentals is not rocket science. I feel the real design happens in the imagination, and photoshop, illustrator, indesign, inkscape, fireworks, etc. All that dreamweaver does is combine the design with some auto-generated mark-up, yes? But if dreamweaver can be leveraged into making decent markup, that could help a lot of people, it seems.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Is there a proof of concept or proposed architecture for such a project?</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Laura</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV></BODY></HTML>