<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/16/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Peter Apokotos</b> <<a href="mailto:drupal@apokotos.com">drupal@apokotos.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div style=""><br><div><span class="q"><div>On Aug 15, 2007, at 9:10 PM, Kieran Lal wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/15/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Peter Apokotos</b>
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<div><br><div><span><div>On Aug 15, 2007, at 6:38 PM, Kieran Lal wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/15/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Peter Apokotos</b> <<a href="mailto:drupal@apokotos.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
drupal@apokotos.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div>The extension would make every template and css style-sheet needed for a complete theme.
</div></blockquote><div><br>I assume Dreamweaver does CSS today. Is that correct?<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div> </span><div>Yes and it already does XHTML 1.0 Strict too.</div><span><br><blockquote type="cite">
<div><div>Should it pick from a couple solid bases, like Garland and Minetti?</div><br></div></blockquote><div><br> </div></span><div>Something similar. I see mostly frameworks for different types of designs.</div></div>
</div></blockquote><div><br>Could you make a list?<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>Such as?</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br>I started with Garland and Minetti. That's three column fluid, and three column fixed. What other base theme outputs would you like?
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<div><div><span><blockquote type="cite"><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div> And it would use an Assistant Interface for the building each theme.
</div></blockquote><div><br>Do you want to use PHP based PHPTemplate or a mark-up template language like Smarty or PHPTal? Our target users are not PHP devs, if they have learn PHP it's going to be a problem.<br></div>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>PHPTemplate is the way to go unless the theme method is changing again D6 like in D5. And the PHP would be just drag and drop. There will be a panel for all of the Drupal PHP functions. And when you hover over them in Dreamwweaver it will explain what the function does.
</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br>For the record, CivicSpace uses Smarty Template and believe that it's easier to edit and comprehend than PHPTemplate. But with the automated tools for PHPTemplate themes like contemplate and view and cck wizards it is hard to keep up.
<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>That is why I want to have the extension created. </div></div></div></blockquote><div><br>Are you suggesting that the output from Dreamweaver should rely or be integrated with Contemplate, Views, and CCK wizards? If so, what do we gain from integration from integration of Dreamweaver and Contemplate, Views wizard, CCK wizard.
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<div><div><span><blockquote type="cite"><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div> And have all of the theme template code built in so it would be drag and drop.
</div></blockquote><div><br>So we need a library of template files or template functions that can be stubbed in.<br></div></div></blockquote> <div><br></div></span><div>Correct. Too bad the theme documentation for Drupal is so poor. Or it would allow the developer of the extension to finish it faster but with all the options of Drupal for each person to create their own unique theme.
</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br>Since good documentation is a part of the design, could you be specific about why Drupal's theme documentation is poor? It will help us set a design goal.<br></div></div></blockquote>
<div><br></div></span><div>As for other types of template systems I suppose they could be included in the extension but that means more time and money to have it created.</div><div>For example I don't know all of the abilities of PHPTemplate, other than from what I see from the code in other templates and this is the purpose of the extension for Dreamweaver. To have all of the information for novice to advance designers to make their templates in minutes and then hand tweak if they like. There will be nothing supporting one browser over another or work around for a browser. Such as
I.E. as this extension will be compliant.</div><div><br></div><div>Unless I have missed something I have never found any straight forward documentation for any of the theme back-ends. More like a snippet here and there. If I am wrong and there is a place that will provide me a list of all of the custom PHPTemplate code and all of the CSS already in use please let me know where to find them.
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<div style=""><div><span class="q"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Are we ready to start doing wireframes? <br></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>Such as in designs? That would be the work of the extension.</div>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br>1) What does the interface of this extension look like in Dreamweaver?<br>2) What do the output files look like in this extension?<br>3) What does the text inside the CSS and template files look like? What are the comments, formatting structure, etc look like?
<br>4) Let's pick a base design from Dreamweaver and show what it is going to look like as a Drupal theme. We need a starting point, with hand coded changes to show the input and the output.<br><br>Cheers,<br>Kieran<br>
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