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Today's Topics:
1. Re: FAQ: Why is Drupal still using CVS when X is a much
better choice? (Sam Boyer)
2. EER Diagram for MySQL (Brett Stoppel)
3. Re: FAQ: Why is Drupal still using CVS when X is a much
better choice? (Lyle Mantooth)
4. Re: EER Diagram for MySQL (Angela Byron)
5. Re: EER Diagram for MySQL (Fr?d?ric G. MARAND)
6. Drupal CVS outage on Tuesday 2008-08-05, 11pm-midnight GMT
(Derek Wright)
7. Re: Drupal CVS outage on Tuesday 2008-08-05, 11pm-midnight
GMT (Jerad Bitner)
8. Re: Drupal CVS outage on Tuesday 2008-08-05, 11pm-midnight
GMT (Marjorie Roswell)
9. Re: Drupal CVS outage on Tuesday 2008-08-05, 11pm-midnight
GMT (Kathleen Murtagh)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:32:46 -0500
From: Sam Boyer <drupal@samboyer.org>
Subject: Re: [development] FAQ: Why is Drupal still using CVS when X
is a much better choice?
To: development@drupal.org
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On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 11:18 -0700, Derek Wright wrote:
> On Aug 1, 2008, at 6:26 AM, Adrian Simmons wrote:
>
> > Can we have a commitment that *if* everything needing to be done
> > that Angie kindly listed on http://drupal.org/node/289117 and links
> > therefrom *gets done* we *will* move?
>
> Once upon a time, in a post someone with time and motivation could
> surely find, Dries wrote something to the effect of:
>
> "I'd be happy to switch to something other than CVS _if all the
> dependencies on CVS are safely removed and addressed_".
>
> (approximate quote from memory).
>
> - The #1 dependency on CVS is project_release.module.
> - The #2 dependency on CVS is all the CVS account creation stuff.
> - The #3 dependency on CVS are the CVS commit log viewing pages,
> links on project nodes, etc.
> - The best way to fix all of that is VersionControl API.
> - There are pages dedicated to what needs to happen to get us closer,
> already linked from Angie's wonderful document.
>
> If all that work is done, d.o is running VersionControl API with the
> CVS backend, the SVN backend is demonstrated to be stable and working
> on project.drupal.org, we've got the packaging script ported and
> working, we've got the CVS -> SVN import documented and working,
> we've got all the SVN access control worked out (per project like we
> have now, preventing commits to tags, etc, etc), we've got something
> like svn.drupal.org setup care of the OSUOSL, and we've got a team of
> documentation folks lined up to go nuts, I can pretty safely
> guarantee that Dries will say "Yay, go for it!".
>
> That still doesn't answer the question of how the choice of SVN vs.
> XXX will ultimately be decided, nor if decree from Dries is good
> enough for the switch. The lack of a clear process for making
> decisions like this continues to haunt us. By default, a decree from
> Dries (if he's willing to make it) carries the day. If not, I guess
> decree from Dries on how to decide will be necessary.
>
> Meanwhile, it can't possibly hurt to at least move towards project* +
> versioncontrol_cvs as a first (monster) step down this path. The
> other stuff will be pretty easy (relatively speaking) once that's
> done. Hurray to Sam for volunteering to help. But I can assure you
> that more resources will be needed to finish the job.
Indeed there will. Help is VERY welcome :)
s
>
> Cheers,
> -Derek (dww)
>
>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:41:13 -0500
From: "Brett Stoppel" <brett@telosstudios.com>
Subject: [development] EER Diagram for MySQL
To: development@drupal.org
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Hi All.
I am in the process of creating an EER Diagram for Drupal with MySQL
Workbench. I have a good start on it, but thought I would ask if one already
exists? I find them really helpful for learning the database side of
applications. If one doesn't exists, is this the right place to ask
questions about the design of the DB? For instance, I am not sure if the
column "aid" in Access, Actions, Actions_id, Authmap are primary keys or if
they are foreign keys. I would love to get a little more done on the diagram
and then upload it for you all to review and make suggestions.
Thanks.
Brett
--
Brett Stoppel
Telos Studios
brett@telosstudios.com | 785-218-4493
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 15:23:15 -0400
From: Lyle Mantooth <lyle@ubercart.org>
Subject: Re: [development] FAQ: Why is Drupal still using CVS when X
is a much better choice?
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Derek Wright wrote:
> Meanwhile, it can't possibly hurt to at least move towards project* +
> versioncontrol_cvs as a first (monster) step down this path.
Here's something I can try to help with. I'm sure there's a lot of
research I need to do to get caught up, but this is a concrete goal I
can work towards.
-- Lyle
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 15:25:42 -0400
From: Angela Byron <drupal-devel@webchick.net>
Subject: Re: [development] EER Diagram for MySQL
To: development@drupal.org
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Brett Stoppel wrote:
> Hi All.
>
> I am in the process of creating an EER Diagram for Drupal with MySQL
> Workbench. I have a good start on it, but thought I would ask if one
> already exists? I find them really helpful for learning the database
> side of applications. If one doesn't exists, is this the right place to
> ask questions about the design of the DB? For instance, I am not sure if
> the column "aid" in Access, Actions, Actions_id, Authmap are primary
> keys or if they are foreign keys. I would love to get a little more done
> on the diagram and then upload it for you all to review and make
> suggestions.
If you open up the module' .install files, or use the Schema module,
there is already copious documentation on every single field in D6's
schema. Foreign keys are documented with a particular syntax (I think
it's {node}.nid but I forget). It'd be neat if you could somehow script
it somehow so this could be automatically generated from one Drupal
version to another, and for contributed modules as well.
-Angie, who lost 2 months of her life documenting these fields. ;)
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 21:43:37 +0200
From: Fr?d?ric G. MARAND <fgm@osinet.fr>
Subject: Re: [development] EER Diagram for MySQL
To: <development@drupal.org>
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If you mean ERD, there are a few of them on d.o. and in CVS
contrib/docs/developer
----- Original Message -----
From: Brett Stoppel
To: development@drupal.org
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 8:41 PM
Subject: [development] EER Diagram for MySQL
Hi All.
I am in the process of creating an EER Diagram for Drupal with MySQL
Workbench. I have a good start on it, but thought I would ask if one already
exists? I find them really helpful for learning the database side of
applications. If one doesn't exists, is this the right place to ask
questions about the design of the DB? For instance, I am not sure if the
column "aid" in Access, Actions, Actions_id, Authmap are primary keys or if
they are foreign keys. I would love to get a little more done on the diagram
and then upload it for you all to review and make suggestions.
[...]
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:26:05 -0700
From: Derek Wright <drupal@dwwright.net>
Subject: [development] Drupal CVS outage on Tuesday 2008-08-05,
11pm-midnight GMT
To: Development <development@drupal.org>
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Drupal's CVS repositories will be unavailable for an hour on Tuesday
2008-08-05 between 11pm and midnight GMT (4pm-5pm US/PDT) while we
switch over the infrastructure to use SVN instead.
Cheers,
-Derek (dww)
p.s. Just kidding! But CVS will be down while it moves to a new
server. ;) Thanks, OSUOSL.
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 19:42:00 -0400
From: "Jerad Bitner" <sirkitree@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [development] Drupal CVS outage on Tuesday 2008-08-05,
11pm-midnight GMT
To: development@drupal.org
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<215a89c90808011642q2852342fsa24084415fa9dcc7@mail.gmail.com>
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HAHAHAHA... how many people just shit themselves?
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Derek Wright <drupal@dwwright.net> wrote:
> Drupal's CVS repositories will be unavailable for an hour on Tuesday
> 2008-08-05 between 11pm and midnight GMT (4pm-5pm US/PDT) while we switch
> over the infrastructure to use SVN instead.
>
> Cheers,
> -Derek (dww)
>
>
> p.s. Just kidding! But CVS will be down while it moves to a new server. ;)
> Thanks, OSUOSL.
>
>
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 20:16:43 -0400
From: "Marjorie Roswell" <mroswell@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [development] Drupal CVS outage on Tuesday 2008-08-05,
11pm-midnight GMT
To: development@drupal.org
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There are certainly all kinds of humor ..... Oy.
Here's a little acronym-laden poem, an evening break....
Use SVN...
No, CVS!
It's PM now in East US
(I wonder when is GMT?
or how far off from PDT?
The OSUOSL
Is probably the one to tell.
TTFN,
Margie (mroswell)
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 7:42 PM, Jerad Bitner <sirkitree@gmail.com> wrote:
> HAHAHAHA... how many people just shit themselves?
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Derek Wright <drupal@dwwright.net> wrote:
>>
>> Drupal's CVS repositories will be unavailable for an hour on Tuesday
>> 2008-08-05 between 11pm and midnight GMT (4pm-5pm US/PDT) while we switch
>> over the infrastructure to use SVN instead.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Derek (dww)
>>
>>
>> p.s. Just kidding! But CVS will be down while it moves to a new server.
>> ;) Thanks, OSUOSL.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 20:43:00 -0400
From: "Kathleen Murtagh" <kathleen@ceardach.com>
Subject: Re: [development] Drupal CVS outage on Tuesday 2008-08-05,
11pm-midnight GMT
To: development@drupal.org
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<1d83e3e60808011743u563e5a5bgb3fce1698fe5d4b3@mail.gmail.com>
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My heart did skip a beat, certainly.
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 7:42 PM, Jerad Bitner <sirkitree@gmail.com> wrote:
> HAHAHAHA... how many people just shit themselves?
>
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Derek Wright <drupal@dwwright.net> wrote:
>>
>> Drupal's CVS repositories will be unavailable for an hour on Tuesday
>> 2008-08-05 between 11pm and midnight GMT (4pm-5pm US/PDT) while we switch
>> over the infrastructure to use SVN instead.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Derek (dww)
>>
>>
>> p.s. Just kidding! But CVS will be down while it moves to a new server.
>> ;) Thanks, OSUOSL.
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