[drupal-devel] permissions page
Role names take too much place and vertical text is only in CSS3 (and in IE for long) So, I thought of diagonal text, think one table cell per letter. There are javascripts for this out there, it would be very easy to do in PHP. Only one (or few?) modules would be displayed at once. To make the presumable huge table fit, let's make it unthemed with just a link to 'admin' to save space. Color the table like the chess board. Maybe 3 x 3 checkboxes would be one color. Regards NK
On Fri, Oct 07, 2005 at 03:35:41PM +0200, Karoly Negyesi wrote:
Role names take too much place and vertical text is only in CSS3 (and in IE for long) So, I thought of diagonal text, think one table cell per letter. There are javascripts for this out there, it would be very easy to do in PHP.
If this is what I think it is then it'd make life much harder for blind people. -- Piotrek irc: #debian.pl Mors Drosophilis melanogastribus!
Yes, it would be very inaccessible. A GD generated PNG used as a text replacement would be somewhat accessible. The text would be available for screen readers, but the font size couldn't be changed (easily) for the visually impaired. On 10/7/05, piotrwww@krukowiecki.net <piotrwww@krukowiecki.net> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 07, 2005 at 03:35:41PM +0200, Karoly Negyesi wrote:
Role names take too much place and vertical text is only in CSS3 (and in IE for long) So, I thought of diagonal text, think one table cell per letter. There are javascripts for this out there, it would be very easy to do in PHP.
If this is what I think it is then it'd make life much harder for blind people.
-- Piotrek irc: #debian.pl Mors Drosophilis melanogastribus!
-- Best regards, Herman Webley
I have only one comment to this whome thread. "This way of solving such issues won't work". Why? Because we work somehow as follows:
Page X has a problem. Lets solve it like this, no like that, no like that! No, we want patches first. ... slowly fade from the queue ....
Or
Page X has a problem. Lets solve it like this, no like that, no like that! patch applied. Yes, no, I like it, I love it. Patch applied
Page Y has a problem. Lets solve it like this, no like that, no like that!....
We need more solid solutions. Not all these ad-hoc usability improvements. These ad-hoc improvments often make usability worse, in teh long run. I beleive that the big reason for us not being able to tackle the usability problems (easy), is due to this inconsistancy. I beleive Drupals biggest usability problem is that inconsistancy. So, rather then saying: we have a problem with big tables, lets solve them one by one (admin > node, admin > modules, admin > comments, admin > permissions) Why not take a single solution for all. Some general table filter. something like the pager and table sorter. If we are going to solve all these issues with new 'toggle this and that' filters, usability will decrease a lot. Bèr On Friday 07 October 2005 15:35, Karoly Negyesi wrote:
Role names take too much place and vertical text is only in CSS3 (and in IE for long) So, I thought of diagonal text, think one table cell per letter. There are javascripts for this out there, it would be very easy to do in PHP.
Only one (or few?) modules would be displayed at once.
To make the presumable huge table fit, let's make it unthemed with just a link to 'admin' to save space.
Color the table like the chess board. Maybe 3 x 3 checkboxes would be one color.
Regards
NK
I have only one comment to this whome thread. "This way of solving such issues won't work". Why? Because we work somehow as follows:
Page X has a problem. Lets solve it like this, no like that, no like that! No, we want patches first. ... slowly fade from the queue ....
Or
Page X has a problem. Lets solve it like this, no like that, no like that! patch applied. Yes, no, I like it, I love it. Patch applied
Page Y has a problem. Lets solve it like this, no like that, no like that!....
We need more solid solutions. Not all these ad-hoc usability improvements. These ad-hoc improvments often make usability worse, in teh long run. I beleive that the big reason for us not being able to tackle the usability problems (easy), is due to this inconsistancy. I beleive Drupals biggest usability problem is that inconsistancy. So, rather then saying: we have a problem with big tables, lets solve them one by one (admin > node, admin > modules, admin > comments, admin > permissions) Why not take a single solution for all. Some general table filter. something like the pager and table sorter. If we are going to solve all these issues with new 'toggle this and that' filters, usability will decrease a lot. Oh, and I am not saying that we should not continue to improve this page, but that in future we should just get such stuff done one a lower level. Bèr On Friday 07 October 2005 15:35, Karoly Negyesi wrote:
Role names take too much place and vertical text is only in CSS3 (and in IE for long) So, I thought of diagonal text, think one table cell per letter. There are javascripts for this out there, it would be very easy to do in PHP.
Only one (or few?) modules would be displayed at once.
To make the presumable huge table fit, let's make it unthemed with just a link to 'admin' to save space.
Color the table like the chess board. Maybe 3 x 3 checkboxes would be one color.
Regards
NK
All of this permissions page talk is getting tiresome. People who have ideas should make contrib modules that add a tab to the usual access control page and then the favorite will eventually get integrated into core. This page is not very hard to reproduce, especially when you have a working example already in core.
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