[drupal-devel] [Fwd: other CMS's?]
It's all about convenience and comfort. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: other CMS's? Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 02:04:44 -0800 (PST) From: farsheed <tfarsheed@yahoo.com> To: civicspace-community@civicspacelabs.org Sorry if I'm bringing up an old subject, but I have a question. Recently my friend, a Linux guy, general coder, and brainsy type fellow, tried to install Drupal for his personal CMS site. He had success, but I think after tinkering with the image and taxonomy module, grew impatient with the whole thing and has now switched to Xoops. I asked him why he made the switch, and his answer was that he felt more comfortable with Xoops, plus it had more modules to play around with. And that got me to thinking, why I am using Drupal? Why do I spend hours a day tinkering with it? Why do I put up with the frustrations and headaches? So I'll ask you guys - why Drupal/Civicspace over other CMS's? Not to worry, I'm a loyal CS guy. But I thought it'd be interesting to see what your responses were, and maybe then I can convert my friend back... -Farsheed -- Dries Buytaert :: http://www.buytaert.net/
I think after tinkering with the image and taxonomy module, grew impatient with the whole thing and has
Well, image module is replaced. (good job!) Taxonomy is mega-powerful, now that is is called categories, maybe it will not alienate beginners.
And that got me to thinking, why I am using Drupal?
Because Drupal delivers. If I use it as a well thought-out library so that I do not need to write my database library, form items, user system etc. then it provides so. If I want to whip out a whole website in a day, then it happens so. It is fun to hack with and there is money, too. Regards NK
On Wed, 2 Feb 2005, Dries Buytaert wrote:
It's all about convenience and comfort.
Indeed.
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: other CMS's? Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 02:04:44 -0800 (PST)
Sorry if I'm bringing up an old subject, but I have a question. Recently my friend, a Linux guy, general coder, and brainsy type fellow, tried to install Drupal for his personal CMS site. He had success, but I think after tinkering with the image and taxonomy module, grew impatient with the whole thing and has now switched to Xoops. I asked him why he made the switch, and his answer was that he felt more comfortable with Xoops,
That is good for him.
plus it had more modules to play around with.
Even more modules? I am starting to believe we should kick out or merge at least half the Drupal contrib modules as they provide very similar or not very often needed functionality and the plethora or modules is rather confusing. And we should evaluate if we want a module in contrib before letting somebody add it.
And that got me to thinking, why I am using Drupal? Why do I spend hours a day tinkering with it? Why do I put up with the frustrations and headaches?
I can't answer his, I don't get headaches when setting up Drupal sites. But I guess that is due to experience.
So I'll ask you guys - why Drupal/Civicspace over other CMS's?
I never looked much at other CMSes. I chose Drupal because I could let others help translate the interface to German. Later I found out that Drupal's code is vastly better organized and better readable than most other CMSes I looked at.
Not to worry, I'm a loyal CS guy. But I thought it'd be interesting to see what your responses were, and maybe then I can convert my friend back...
If he is happy with Xoops, why bother? He has found the software he wants to use and that should be respected. It is very well possible that Xoops is the better choice for the type of site that he wants to have. For example I believe that Drupal is overkill for most simple blogging sites. What I think would be interesting for the Drupal developers is a more detailed description of what exactly makes your friend more comfortable with Xoops. Cheers, Gerhard
Op woensdag 2 februari 2005 13:26, schreef Dries Buytaert:
It's all about convenience and comfort.
And for some even about efficiancy and profit (bryght, me, Adrian, moshe? etc)
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: other CMS's? Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 02:04:44 -0800 (PST) From: farsheed <tfarsheed@yahoo.com> To: civicspace-community@civicspacelabs.org
Sorry if I'm bringing up an old subject, but I have a question. Recently my friend, a Linux guy, general coder, and brainsy type fellow, tried to install Drupal for his personal CMS site. He had success, but I think after tinkering with the image and taxonomy module, grew impatient with the whole thing and has now switched to Xoops. I asked him why he made the switch, and his answer was that he felt more comfortable with Xoops, plus it had more modules to play around with.
I have no experience with Xoops. But I daresay (yes, cursing in the church) that even *nukes sometimes have an easier UI. About that taxonomy: people keep nagging about it, but we should not care. We should really look into better UIs and even modules to work with taxo, but certainly not remove it. But most of all: 90% of the people don;t need it, yet they keep on nagging about the fact its too difficult!
And that got me to thinking, why I am using Drupal? Why do I spend hours a day tinkering with it? Why do I put up with the frustrations and headaches?
It happens to me every week. But still i stick to Drupal, mainly becuase once you know it, it is nice, yet far from perfect. And to linguer on Gerhards comment about the huge amount of modules: Agreed. Maybe we can set some approval system in motion on DrupalCOM? We are testing/trying a new idea with the weblinks now: a bundle. ~6 modules, created with combined efforts of all people , that will work together, use the same DB tables, live in the same tarball, and might be dependant on one another. WE need more of these things IMO. Regards, Bèr -- [ Bèr Kessels | Drupal services www.webschuur.com ]
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