[drupal-devel] [feature] Advanced search features
Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/28159 Post a follow up: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/28159 Project: Drupal Version: cvs Component: search.module Category: feature requests Priority: normal Assigned to: Steven Reported by: Steven Updated by: Steven Status: patch (code needs review) Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_2.patch (37.05 KB) Here's my promised search patch. It's not 100% commit ready yet, but it's time to sollicit some feedback and get this tested ;). Note that this patch requires a db update, which will wipe the search index. You will then need to call cron.php enough times for the site to be indexed completely again. This could take a while for large databases, but you can control the throttle and see the progress at admin/settings/search. *Features* * AND keyword matching by default ('all of the words'), instead of OR ('any of the words'). * OR support through keyword1 OR keyword2 OR ... * Phrase searching through "quoted strings". * Negative matching through -"minus prefix" -word. * Restrict search by taxonomy or node type(s) using taxonomy:1,2 and type:blog,page. The options are built-into the keyword string through a google like syntax, but there is an expandable "advanced settings" form below the search box which acts as a 'query builder': This example will result in the following search string (of course not a practical example): test type:forum,story category:1 "tinky winky" OR "dipsy" -"uh oh" "teletubby bye bye" On a different note, I removed the wildcard matching. An important reason is that there were significant performance problems with leading wildcards. Such queries were not be able to use any indices, and the resulting full-table scan took a long time. Even Google does have intra-word wildcards, they can only be used as placeholders for entire words in phrases. Trailing wildcards on the other hand are usually used to accomodate grammatical variations on a word. But, wildcards are not really the best tool for this as this puts a burden on the user. If you need this feature, you should instead tie in an algorithm like the Porter Stemmer through the search_preprocess hook. That way you can reduce related words to a single common root (e.g. "walker" "walking" "walked" to "walk"). The search system will then index and search on the reduced words. You will even benefit from a reduced database size because there are less unique words. Because such algorithms are very language specific, I didn't build in any. But it should be trivial to make a Porter Stemmer module for Drupal search, which can be used on english sites. *Database* To implement the above searches, I added a 'search_dataset' table that is independent of the keyword index. Each dataset row contains the entire contents of the indexed item, but filtered, cleaned up and reduced to space-sparated tokens (words, numbers, dates, ...). This table is used to resolve the exact conditions, which means the keyword index is not as essential anymore. Because searches are AND by default, the OR method of search_index acts as an initial filter to eliminate the majority of items immediately. That subset is then further reduced through the search_dataset table. All of this means that the search_index table can now be indexed at a much higher minimum word lenght (e.g. 5), which means a reduced database size. Even with the new dataset table, the net database size shrinks slightly. I also implemented the searching as two selects into temporary tables. This allows me to avoid doing a costly counting query for the pager and a range-limited query for the actual results. I added support for temporary tables to database.(my|pg)sql. The db api itself takes a normal SELECT and a table name, and turns it into an appropriate platform specific temporary table query (CREATE TABLE ... AS, CREATE TABLE ... SELECT). I still need to do detailed benchmarking, but at least for the same queries as before, this patch should be faster. Of course, pre-patch, all searches were OR, not AND, so a direct comparison needs to take this into account (the pre-patch query "drupal theme development" is now "drupal OR theme OR development"). One feature request that I did not do is date based searching (before X/X/X, after X/X/X), mostly because we don't have a good date widget yet. I've been toying with making a simple in-page JS data picker, but it's not done yet and I think the patch is good enough already. Date restrictions can be added on later without any problems. Steven
Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/28159 Post a follow up: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/28159 Project: Drupal Version: cvs Component: search.module Category: feature requests Priority: normal Assigned to: Steven Reported by: Steven Updated by: Steven Status: patch (code needs review) Oh and in case this wasn't clear, the syntax of putting extra conditions into the search keywords ("type:blog") means that each search result page can be linked to directly. They all have clean URLs: search/node/type:blog+keyword for example. Steven Previous comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 00:46:49 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_2.patch (37.05 KB) Here's my promised search patch. It's not 100% commit ready yet, but it's time to sollicit some feedback and get this tested ;). Note that this patch requires a db update, which will wipe the search index. You will then need to call cron.php enough times for the site to be indexed completely again. This could take a while for large databases, but you can control the throttle and see the progress at admin/settings/search. *Features* * AND keyword matching by default ('all of the words'), instead of OR ('any of the words'). * OR support through keyword1 OR keyword2 OR ... * Phrase searching through "quoted strings". * Negative matching through -"minus prefix" -word. * Restrict search by taxonomy or node type(s) using taxonomy:1,2 and type:blog,page. The options are built-into the keyword string through a google like syntax, but there is an expandable "advanced settings" form below the search box which acts as a 'query builder': This example will result in the following search string (of course not a practical example): test type:forum,story category:1 "tinky winky" OR "dipsy" -"uh oh" "teletubby bye bye" On a different note, I removed the wildcard matching. An important reason is that there were significant performance problems with leading wildcards. Such queries were not be able to use any indices, and the resulting full-table scan took a long time. Even Google does not have intra-word wildcards, theirs can only be used as placeholders for entire words in phrases. Trailing wildcards on the other hand are usually used to accomodate grammatical variations on a word. But, wildcards are not really the best tool for this as this puts a burden on the user. If you need this feature, you should instead tie in an algorithm like the Porter Stemmer through the search_preprocess hook. That way you can reduce related words to a single common root (e.g. "walker" "walking" "walked" to "walk"). The search system will then index and search on the reduced words. You will even benefit from a reduced database size because there are less unique words. Because such algorithms are very language specific, I didn't build in any. But it should be trivial to make a Porter Stemmer module for Drupal search, which can be used on english sites. *Database* To implement the above searches, I added a 'search_dataset' table that is independent of the keyword index. Each dataset row contains the entire contents of the indexed item, but filtered, cleaned up and reduced to space-sparated tokens (words, numbers, dates, ...). This table is used to resolve the exact conditions, which means the keyword index is not as essential anymore. Because searches are AND by default, the OR method of search_index acts as an initial filter to eliminate the majority of items immediately. That subset is then further reduced through the search_dataset table. All of this means that the search_index table can now be indexed at a much higher minimum word lenght (e.g. 5), which means a reduced database size. Even with the new dataset table, the net database size shrinks slightly. I also implemented the searching as two selects into temporary tables. This allows me to avoid doing a costly counting query for the pager and a range-limited query for the actual results. I added support for temporary tables to database.(my|pg)sql. The db api itself takes a normal SELECT and a table name, and turns it into an appropriate platform specific temporary table query (CREATE TABLE ... AS, CREATE TABLE ... SELECT). I still need to do detailed benchmarking, but at least for the same queries as before, this patch should be faster. Of course, pre-patch, all searches were OR, not AND, so a direct comparison needs to take this into account (the pre-patch query "drupal theme development" is now "drupal OR theme OR development"). One feature request that I did not do is date based searching (before X/X/X, after X/X/X), mostly because we don't have a good date widget yet. I've been toying with making a simple in-page JS data picker, but it's not done yet and I think the patch is good enough already. Date restrictions can be added on later without any problems.
Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/28159 Post a follow up: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/28159 Project: Drupal Version: cvs Component: search.module Category: feature requests Priority: normal Assigned to: Steven Reported by: Steven Updated by: Steven Status: patch (code needs review) Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch (37.05 KB) Sorry, the patch was malformed because wincvs wrapped those really long preg classes :P. Fixed patch attached. Steven Previous comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 00:46:49 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_2.patch (37.05 KB) Here's my promised search patch. It's not 100% commit ready yet, but it's time to sollicit some feedback and get this tested ;). Note that this patch requires a db update, which will wipe the search index. You will then need to call cron.php enough times for the site to be indexed completely again. This could take a while for large databases, but you can control the throttle and see the progress at admin/settings/search. *Features* * AND keyword matching by default ('all of the words'), instead of OR ('any of the words'). * OR support through keyword1 OR keyword2 OR ... * Phrase searching through "quoted strings". * Negative matching through -"minus prefix" -word. * Restrict search by taxonomy or node type(s) using taxonomy:1,2 and type:blog,page. The options are built-into the keyword string through a google like syntax, but there is an expandable "advanced settings" form below the search box which acts as a 'query builder': This example will result in the following search string (of course not a practical example): test type:forum,story category:1 "tinky winky" OR "dipsy" -"uh oh" "teletubby bye bye" On a different note, I removed the wildcard matching. An important reason is that there were significant performance problems with leading wildcards. Such queries were not be able to use any indices, and the resulting full-table scan took a long time. Even Google does not have intra-word wildcards, theirs can only be used as placeholders for entire words in phrases. Trailing wildcards on the other hand are usually used to accomodate grammatical variations on a word. But, wildcards are not really the best tool for this as this puts a burden on the user. If you need this feature, you should instead tie in an algorithm like the Porter Stemmer through the search_preprocess hook. That way you can reduce related words to a single common root (e.g. "walker" "walking" "walked" to "walk"). The search system will then index and search on the reduced words. You will even benefit from a reduced database size because there are less unique words. Because such algorithms are very language specific, I didn't build in any. But it should be trivial to make a Porter Stemmer module for Drupal search, which can be used on english sites. *Database* To implement the above searches, I added a 'search_dataset' table that is independent of the keyword index. Each dataset row contains the entire contents of the indexed item, but filtered, cleaned up and reduced to space-sparated tokens (words, numbers, dates, ...). This table is used to resolve the exact conditions, which means the keyword index is not as essential anymore. Because searches are AND by default, the OR method of search_index acts as an initial filter to eliminate the majority of items immediately. That subset is then further reduced through the search_dataset table. All of this means that the search_index table can now be indexed at a much higher minimum word lenght (e.g. 5), which means a reduced database size. Even with the new dataset table, the net database size shrinks slightly. I also implemented the searching as two selects into temporary tables. This allows me to avoid doing a costly counting query for the pager and a range-limited query for the actual results. I added support for temporary tables to database.(my|pg)sql. The db api itself takes a normal SELECT and a table name, and turns it into an appropriate platform specific temporary table query (CREATE TABLE ... AS, CREATE TABLE ... SELECT). I still need to do detailed benchmarking, but at least for the same queries as before, this patch should be faster. Of course, pre-patch, all searches were OR, not AND, so a direct comparison needs to take this into account (the pre-patch query "drupal theme development" is now "drupal OR theme OR development"). One feature request that I did not do is date based searching (before X/X/X, after X/X/X), mostly because we don't have a good date widget yet. I've been toying with making a simple in-page JS data picker, but it's not done yet and I think the patch is good enough already. Date restrictions can be added on later without any problems. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 01:27:29 +0000 : Steven Oh and in case this wasn't clear, the syntax of putting extra conditions into the search keywords ("type:blog") means that each search result page can be linked to directly. They all have clean URLs: search/node/type:blog+keyword for example.
Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/28159 Post a follow up: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/28159 Project: Drupal Version: cvs Component: search.module Category: feature requests Priority: normal Assigned to: Steven Reported by: Steven Updated by: stevryn Status: patch (code needs review) This looks great, cant wait till its fully ready. I tried trip_search, but couldnt get it to work, and the regular search definately needed some better features! I would like to test it, but I have no idea how to apply a patch. Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it? Tx T stevryn Previous comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 00:46:49 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_2.patch (37.05 KB) Here's my promised search patch. It's not 100% commit ready yet, but it's time to sollicit some feedback and get this tested ;). Note that this patch requires a db update, which will wipe the search index. You will then need to call cron.php enough times for the site to be indexed completely again. This could take a while for large databases, but you can control the throttle and see the progress at admin/settings/search. *Features* * AND keyword matching by default ('all of the words'), instead of OR ('any of the words'). * OR support through keyword1 OR keyword2 OR ... * Phrase searching through "quoted strings". * Negative matching through -"minus prefix" -word. * Restrict search by taxonomy or node type(s) using taxonomy:1,2 and type:blog,page. The options are built-into the keyword string through a google like syntax, but there is an expandable "advanced settings" form below the search box which acts as a 'query builder': This example will result in the following search string (of course not a practical example): test type:forum,story category:1 "tinky winky" OR "dipsy" -"uh oh" "teletubby bye bye" On a different note, I removed the wildcard matching. An important reason is that there were significant performance problems with leading wildcards. Such queries were not be able to use any indices, and the resulting full-table scan took a long time. Even Google does not have intra-word wildcards, theirs can only be used as placeholders for entire words in phrases. Trailing wildcards on the other hand are usually used to accomodate grammatical variations on a word. But, wildcards are not really the best tool for this as this puts a burden on the user. If you need this feature, you should instead tie in an algorithm like the Porter Stemmer through the search_preprocess hook. That way you can reduce related words to a single common root (e.g. "walker" "walking" "walked" to "walk"). The search system will then index and search on the reduced words. You will even benefit from a reduced database size because there are less unique words. Because such algorithms are very language specific, I didn't build in any. But it should be trivial to make a Porter Stemmer module for Drupal search, which can be used on english sites. *Database* To implement the above searches, I added a 'search_dataset' table that is independent of the keyword index. Each dataset row contains the entire contents of the indexed item, but filtered, cleaned up and reduced to space-sparated tokens (words, numbers, dates, ...). This table is used to resolve the exact conditions, which means the keyword index is not as essential anymore. Because searches are AND by default, the OR method of search_index acts as an initial filter to eliminate the majority of items immediately. That subset is then further reduced through the search_dataset table. All of this means that the search_index table can now be indexed at a much higher minimum word lenght (e.g. 5), which means a reduced database size. Even with the new dataset table, the net database size shrinks slightly. I also implemented the searching as two selects into temporary tables. This allows me to avoid doing a costly counting query for the pager and a range-limited query for the actual results. I added support for temporary tables to database.(my|pg)sql. The db api itself takes a normal SELECT and a table name, and turns it into an appropriate platform specific temporary table query (CREATE TABLE ... AS, CREATE TABLE ... SELECT). I still need to do detailed benchmarking, but at least for the same queries as before, this patch should be faster. Of course, pre-patch, all searches were OR, not AND, so a direct comparison needs to take this into account (the pre-patch query "drupal theme development" is now "drupal OR theme OR development"). One feature request that I did not do is date based searching (before X/X/X, after X/X/X), mostly because we don't have a good date widget yet. I've been toying with making a simple in-page JS data picker, but it's not done yet and I think the patch is good enough already. Date restrictions can be added on later without any problems. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 01:27:29 +0000 : Steven Oh and in case this wasn't clear, the syntax of putting extra conditions into the search keywords ("type:blog") means that each search result page can be linked to directly. They all have clean URLs: search/node/type:blog+keyword for example. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 02:34:38 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch (37.05 KB) Sorry, the patch was malformed because wincvs wrapped those really long preg classes :P. Fixed patch attached.
Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/28159 Post a follow up: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/28159 Project: Drupal Version: cvs Component: search.module Category: feature requests Priority: normal Assigned to: Steven Reported by: Steven Updated by: webchick Status: patch (code needs review)
Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it?
I can help you there, I think. Follow step 2 here if you don't already have a CVS version of Drupal up and running (you can't use this patch against 4.6.2, for example): http://www.planetsoc.com/node/164 Then, switch to your Drupal CVS root directory, for example: cd ~/drupal-cvs Use wget to retrieve a copy of the most recent patch (in this case, search_3.patch): wget http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch Execute the following command to apply the patch to your Drupal installation: patch -p0 -u < search_3.patch This will patch all the files with the updated search. Then go through the normal steps you would go through to get a new Drupal system up and running. Step 3 of the aforementioned link has some info on how to get a table prefix going if you want to keep this test version separate from your "normal" Drupal installation. My problem is I've done all of this, but am still getting strange errors (even on a "normal" unpatched version of the search), so I need to figure out if I have a problem on my end or what's going on. webchick Previous comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 00:46:49 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_2.patch (37.05 KB) Here's my promised search patch. It's not 100% commit ready yet, but it's time to sollicit some feedback and get this tested ;). Note that this patch requires a db update, which will wipe the search index. You will then need to call cron.php enough times for the site to be indexed completely again. This could take a while for large databases, but you can control the throttle and see the progress at admin/settings/search. *Features* * AND keyword matching by default ('all of the words'), instead of OR ('any of the words'). * OR support through keyword1 OR keyword2 OR ... * Phrase searching through "quoted strings". * Negative matching through -"minus prefix" -word. * Restrict search by taxonomy or node type(s) using taxonomy:1,2 and type:blog,page. The options are built-into the keyword string through a google like syntax, but there is an expandable "advanced settings" form below the search box which acts as a 'query builder': This example will result in the following search string (of course not a practical example): test type:forum,story category:1 "tinky winky" OR "dipsy" -"uh oh" "teletubby bye bye" On a different note, I removed the wildcard matching. An important reason is that there were significant performance problems with leading wildcards. Such queries were not be able to use any indices, and the resulting full-table scan took a long time. Even Google does not have intra-word wildcards, theirs can only be used as placeholders for entire words in phrases. Trailing wildcards on the other hand are usually used to accomodate grammatical variations on a word. But, wildcards are not really the best tool for this as this puts a burden on the user. If you need this feature, you should instead tie in an algorithm like the Porter Stemmer through the search_preprocess hook. That way you can reduce related words to a single common root (e.g. "walker" "walking" "walked" to "walk"). The search system will then index and search on the reduced words. You will even benefit from a reduced database size because there are less unique words. Because such algorithms are very language specific, I didn't build in any. But it should be trivial to make a Porter Stemmer module for Drupal search, which can be used on english sites. *Database* To implement the above searches, I added a 'search_dataset' table that is independent of the keyword index. Each dataset row contains the entire contents of the indexed item, but filtered, cleaned up and reduced to space-sparated tokens (words, numbers, dates, ...). This table is used to resolve the exact conditions, which means the keyword index is not as essential anymore. Because searches are AND by default, the OR method of search_index acts as an initial filter to eliminate the majority of items immediately. That subset is then further reduced through the search_dataset table. All of this means that the search_index table can now be indexed at a much higher minimum word lenght (e.g. 5), which means a reduced database size. Even with the new dataset table, the net database size shrinks slightly. I also implemented the searching as two selects into temporary tables. This allows me to avoid doing a costly counting query for the pager and a range-limited query for the actual results. I added support for temporary tables to database.(my|pg)sql. The db api itself takes a normal SELECT and a table name, and turns it into an appropriate platform specific temporary table query (CREATE TABLE ... AS, CREATE TABLE ... SELECT). I still need to do detailed benchmarking, but at least for the same queries as before, this patch should be faster. Of course, pre-patch, all searches were OR, not AND, so a direct comparison needs to take this into account (the pre-patch query "drupal theme development" is now "drupal OR theme OR development"). One feature request that I did not do is date based searching (before X/X/X, after X/X/X), mostly because we don't have a good date widget yet. I've been toying with making a simple in-page JS data picker, but it's not done yet and I think the patch is good enough already. Date restrictions can be added on later without any problems. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 01:27:29 +0000 : Steven Oh and in case this wasn't clear, the syntax of putting extra conditions into the search keywords ("type:blog") means that each search result page can be linked to directly. They all have clean URLs: search/node/type:blog+keyword for example. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 02:34:38 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch (37.05 KB) Sorry, the patch was malformed because wincvs wrapped those really long preg classes :P. Fixed patch attached. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:28:14 +0000 : stevryn This looks great, cant wait till its fully ready. I tried trip_search, but couldnt get it to work, and the regular search definately needed some better features! I would like to test it, but I have no idea how to apply a patch. Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it? Tx T
Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/28159 Post a follow up: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/28159 Project: Drupal Version: cvs Component: search.module Category: feature requests Priority: normal Assigned to: Steven Reported by: Steven Updated by: killes@www.drop.org -Status: patch (code needs review) +Status: patch (ready to be committed) @Jeremy: Sorting by two fields does not seem to work. @Moshe: This code does not rely on the fact that wid is an auto_increment field in any way. Just some concerns did. killes@www.drop.org Previous comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 00:46:49 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_2.patch (37.05 KB) Here's my promised search patch. It's not 100% commit ready yet, but it's time to sollicit some feedback and get this tested ;). Note that this patch requires a db update, which will wipe the search index. You will then need to call cron.php enough times for the site to be indexed completely again. This could take a while for large databases, but you can control the throttle and see the progress at admin/settings/search. *Features* * AND keyword matching by default ('all of the words'), instead of OR ('any of the words'). * OR support through keyword1 OR keyword2 OR ... * Phrase searching through "quoted strings". * Negative matching through -"minus prefix" -word. * Restrict search by taxonomy or node type(s) using taxonomy:1,2 and type:blog,page. The options are built-into the keyword string through a google like syntax, but there is an expandable "advanced settings" form below the search box which acts as a 'query builder': This example will result in the following search string (of course not a practical example): test type:forum,story category:1 "tinky winky" OR "dipsy" -"uh oh" "teletubby bye bye" On a different note, I removed the wildcard matching. An important reason is that there were significant performance problems with leading wildcards. Such queries were not be able to use any indices, and the resulting full-table scan took a long time. Even Google does not have intra-word wildcards, theirs can only be used as placeholders for entire words in phrases. Trailing wildcards on the other hand are usually used to accomodate grammatical variations on a word. But, wildcards are not really the best tool for this as this puts a burden on the user. If you need this feature, you should instead tie in an algorithm like the Porter Stemmer through the search_preprocess hook. That way you can reduce related words to a single common root (e.g. "walker" "walking" "walked" to "walk"). The search system will then index and search on the reduced words. You will even benefit from a reduced database size because there are less unique words. Because such algorithms are very language specific, I didn't build in any. But it should be trivial to make a Porter Stemmer module for Drupal search, which can be used on english sites. *Database* To implement the above searches, I added a 'search_dataset' table that is independent of the keyword index. Each dataset row contains the entire contents of the indexed item, but filtered, cleaned up and reduced to space-sparated tokens (words, numbers, dates, ...). This table is used to resolve the exact conditions, which means the keyword index is not as essential anymore. Because searches are AND by default, the OR method of search_index acts as an initial filter to eliminate the majority of items immediately. That subset is then further reduced through the search_dataset table. All of this means that the search_index table can now be indexed at a much higher minimum word lenght (e.g. 5), which means a reduced database size. Even with the new dataset table, the net database size shrinks slightly. I also implemented the searching as two selects into temporary tables. This allows me to avoid doing a costly counting query for the pager and a range-limited query for the actual results. I added support for temporary tables to database.(my|pg)sql. The db api itself takes a normal SELECT and a table name, and turns it into an appropriate platform specific temporary table query (CREATE TABLE ... AS, CREATE TABLE ... SELECT). I still need to do detailed benchmarking, but at least for the same queries as before, this patch should be faster. Of course, pre-patch, all searches were OR, not AND, so a direct comparison needs to take this into account (the pre-patch query "drupal theme development" is now "drupal OR theme OR development"). One feature request that I did not do is date based searching (before X/X/X, after X/X/X), mostly because we don't have a good date widget yet. I've been toying with making a simple in-page JS data picker, but it's not done yet and I think the patch is good enough already. Date restrictions can be added on later without any problems. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 01:27:29 +0000 : Steven Oh and in case this wasn't clear, the syntax of putting extra conditions into the search keywords ("type:blog") means that each search result page can be linked to directly. They all have clean URLs: search/node/type:blog+keyword for example. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 02:34:38 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch (37.05 KB) Sorry, the patch was malformed because wincvs wrapped those really long preg classes :P. Fixed patch attached. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:28:14 +0000 : stevryn This looks great, cant wait till its fully ready. I tried trip_search, but couldnt get it to work, and the regular search definately needed some better features! I would like to test it, but I have no idea how to apply a patch. Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it? Tx T ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:23:08 +0000 : webchick
Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it?
I can help you there, I think. Follow step 2 here if you don't already have a CVS version of Drupal up and running (you can't use this patch against 4.6.2, for example): http://www.planetsoc.com/node/164 Then, switch to your Drupal CVS root directory, for example: cd ~/drupal-cvs Use wget to retrieve a copy of the most recent patch (in this case, search_3.patch): wget http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch Execute the following command to apply the patch to your Drupal installation: patch -p0 -u < search_3.patch This will patch all the files with the updated search. Then go through the normal steps you would go through to get a new Drupal system up and running. Step 3 of the aforementioned link has some info on how to get a table prefix going if you want to keep this test version separate from your "normal" Drupal installation. My problem is I've done all of this, but am still getting strange errors (even on a "normal" unpatched version of the search), so I need to figure out if I have a problem on my end or what's going on.
Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/28159 Post a follow up: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/28159 Project: Drupal Version: cvs Component: search.module Category: feature requests Priority: normal Assigned to: Steven Reported by: Steven Updated by: killes@www.drop.org -Status: patch (ready to be committed) +Status: patch (code needs review) Oops, that comment should have been for another issue. killes@www.drop.org Previous comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 00:46:49 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_2.patch (37.05 KB) Here's my promised search patch. It's not 100% commit ready yet, but it's time to sollicit some feedback and get this tested ;). Note that this patch requires a db update, which will wipe the search index. You will then need to call cron.php enough times for the site to be indexed completely again. This could take a while for large databases, but you can control the throttle and see the progress at admin/settings/search. *Features* * AND keyword matching by default ('all of the words'), instead of OR ('any of the words'). * OR support through keyword1 OR keyword2 OR ... * Phrase searching through "quoted strings". * Negative matching through -"minus prefix" -word. * Restrict search by taxonomy or node type(s) using taxonomy:1,2 and type:blog,page. The options are built-into the keyword string through a google like syntax, but there is an expandable "advanced settings" form below the search box which acts as a 'query builder': This example will result in the following search string (of course not a practical example): test type:forum,story category:1 "tinky winky" OR "dipsy" -"uh oh" "teletubby bye bye" On a different note, I removed the wildcard matching. An important reason is that there were significant performance problems with leading wildcards. Such queries were not be able to use any indices, and the resulting full-table scan took a long time. Even Google does not have intra-word wildcards, theirs can only be used as placeholders for entire words in phrases. Trailing wildcards on the other hand are usually used to accomodate grammatical variations on a word. But, wildcards are not really the best tool for this as this puts a burden on the user. If you need this feature, you should instead tie in an algorithm like the Porter Stemmer through the search_preprocess hook. That way you can reduce related words to a single common root (e.g. "walker" "walking" "walked" to "walk"). The search system will then index and search on the reduced words. You will even benefit from a reduced database size because there are less unique words. Because such algorithms are very language specific, I didn't build in any. But it should be trivial to make a Porter Stemmer module for Drupal search, which can be used on english sites. *Database* To implement the above searches, I added a 'search_dataset' table that is independent of the keyword index. Each dataset row contains the entire contents of the indexed item, but filtered, cleaned up and reduced to space-sparated tokens (words, numbers, dates, ...). This table is used to resolve the exact conditions, which means the keyword index is not as essential anymore. Because searches are AND by default, the OR method of search_index acts as an initial filter to eliminate the majority of items immediately. That subset is then further reduced through the search_dataset table. All of this means that the search_index table can now be indexed at a much higher minimum word lenght (e.g. 5), which means a reduced database size. Even with the new dataset table, the net database size shrinks slightly. I also implemented the searching as two selects into temporary tables. This allows me to avoid doing a costly counting query for the pager and a range-limited query for the actual results. I added support for temporary tables to database.(my|pg)sql. The db api itself takes a normal SELECT and a table name, and turns it into an appropriate platform specific temporary table query (CREATE TABLE ... AS, CREATE TABLE ... SELECT). I still need to do detailed benchmarking, but at least for the same queries as before, this patch should be faster. Of course, pre-patch, all searches were OR, not AND, so a direct comparison needs to take this into account (the pre-patch query "drupal theme development" is now "drupal OR theme OR development"). One feature request that I did not do is date based searching (before X/X/X, after X/X/X), mostly because we don't have a good date widget yet. I've been toying with making a simple in-page JS data picker, but it's not done yet and I think the patch is good enough already. Date restrictions can be added on later without any problems. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 01:27:29 +0000 : Steven Oh and in case this wasn't clear, the syntax of putting extra conditions into the search keywords ("type:blog") means that each search result page can be linked to directly. They all have clean URLs: search/node/type:blog+keyword for example. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 02:34:38 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch (37.05 KB) Sorry, the patch was malformed because wincvs wrapped those really long preg classes :P. Fixed patch attached. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:28:14 +0000 : stevryn This looks great, cant wait till its fully ready. I tried trip_search, but couldnt get it to work, and the regular search definately needed some better features! I would like to test it, but I have no idea how to apply a patch. Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it? Tx T ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:23:08 +0000 : webchick
Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it?
I can help you there, I think. Follow step 2 here if you don't already have a CVS version of Drupal up and running (you can't use this patch against 4.6.2, for example): http://www.planetsoc.com/node/164 Then, switch to your Drupal CVS root directory, for example: cd ~/drupal-cvs Use wget to retrieve a copy of the most recent patch (in this case, search_3.patch): wget http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch Execute the following command to apply the patch to your Drupal installation: patch -p0 -u < search_3.patch This will patch all the files with the updated search. Then go through the normal steps you would go through to get a new Drupal system up and running. Step 3 of the aforementioned link has some info on how to get a table prefix going if you want to keep this test version separate from your "normal" Drupal installation. My problem is I've done all of this, but am still getting strange errors (even on a "normal" unpatched version of the search), so I need to figure out if I have a problem on my end or what's going on. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:27:52 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org @Jeremy: Sorting by two fields does not seem to work. @Moshe: This code does not rely on the fact that wid is an auto_increment field in any way. Just some concerns did.
Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/28159 Post a follow up: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/28159 Project: Drupal Version: cvs Component: search.module Category: feature requests Priority: normal Assigned to: Steven Reported by: Steven Updated by: matt_paz Status: patch (code needs review) It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens. matt_paz Previous comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 00:46:49 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_2.patch (37.05 KB) Here's my promised search patch. It's not 100% commit ready yet, but it's time to sollicit some feedback and get this tested ;). Note that this patch requires a db update, which will wipe the search index. You will then need to call cron.php enough times for the site to be indexed completely again. This could take a while for large databases, but you can control the throttle and see the progress at admin/settings/search. *Features* * AND keyword matching by default ('all of the words'), instead of OR ('any of the words'). * OR support through keyword1 OR keyword2 OR ... * Phrase searching through "quoted strings". * Negative matching through -"minus prefix" -word. * Restrict search by taxonomy or node type(s) using taxonomy:1,2 and type:blog,page. The options are built-into the keyword string through a google like syntax, but there is an expandable "advanced settings" form below the search box which acts as a 'query builder': This example will result in the following search string (of course not a practical example): test type:forum,story category:1 "tinky winky" OR "dipsy" -"uh oh" "teletubby bye bye" On a different note, I removed the wildcard matching. An important reason is that there were significant performance problems with leading wildcards. Such queries were not be able to use any indices, and the resulting full-table scan took a long time. Even Google does not have intra-word wildcards, theirs can only be used as placeholders for entire words in phrases. Trailing wildcards on the other hand are usually used to accomodate grammatical variations on a word. But, wildcards are not really the best tool for this as this puts a burden on the user. If you need this feature, you should instead tie in an algorithm like the Porter Stemmer through the search_preprocess hook. That way you can reduce related words to a single common root (e.g. "walker" "walking" "walked" to "walk"). The search system will then index and search on the reduced words. You will even benefit from a reduced database size because there are less unique words. Because such algorithms are very language specific, I didn't build in any. But it should be trivial to make a Porter Stemmer module for Drupal search, which can be used on english sites. *Database* To implement the above searches, I added a 'search_dataset' table that is independent of the keyword index. Each dataset row contains the entire contents of the indexed item, but filtered, cleaned up and reduced to space-sparated tokens (words, numbers, dates, ...). This table is used to resolve the exact conditions, which means the keyword index is not as essential anymore. Because searches are AND by default, the OR method of search_index acts as an initial filter to eliminate the majority of items immediately. That subset is then further reduced through the search_dataset table. All of this means that the search_index table can now be indexed at a much higher minimum word lenght (e.g. 5), which means a reduced database size. Even with the new dataset table, the net database size shrinks slightly. I also implemented the searching as two selects into temporary tables. This allows me to avoid doing a costly counting query for the pager and a range-limited query for the actual results. I added support for temporary tables to database.(my|pg)sql. The db api itself takes a normal SELECT and a table name, and turns it into an appropriate platform specific temporary table query (CREATE TABLE ... AS, CREATE TABLE ... SELECT). I still need to do detailed benchmarking, but at least for the same queries as before, this patch should be faster. Of course, pre-patch, all searches were OR, not AND, so a direct comparison needs to take this into account (the pre-patch query "drupal theme development" is now "drupal OR theme OR development"). One feature request that I did not do is date based searching (before X/X/X, after X/X/X), mostly because we don't have a good date widget yet. I've been toying with making a simple in-page JS data picker, but it's not done yet and I think the patch is good enough already. Date restrictions can be added on later without any problems. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 01:27:29 +0000 : Steven Oh and in case this wasn't clear, the syntax of putting extra conditions into the search keywords ("type:blog") means that each search result page can be linked to directly. They all have clean URLs: search/node/type:blog+keyword for example. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 02:34:38 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch (37.05 KB) Sorry, the patch was malformed because wincvs wrapped those really long preg classes :P. Fixed patch attached. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:28:14 +0000 : stevryn This looks great, cant wait till its fully ready. I tried trip_search, but couldnt get it to work, and the regular search definately needed some better features! I would like to test it, but I have no idea how to apply a patch. Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it? Tx T ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:23:08 +0000 : webchick
Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it?
I can help you there, I think. Follow step 2 here if you don't already have a CVS version of Drupal up and running (you can't use this patch against 4.6.2, for example): http://www.planetsoc.com/node/164 Then, switch to your Drupal CVS root directory, for example: cd ~/drupal-cvs Use wget to retrieve a copy of the most recent patch (in this case, search_3.patch): wget http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch Execute the following command to apply the patch to your Drupal installation: patch -p0 -u < search_3.patch This will patch all the files with the updated search. Then go through the normal steps you would go through to get a new Drupal system up and running. Step 3 of the aforementioned link has some info on how to get a table prefix going if you want to keep this test version separate from your "normal" Drupal installation. My problem is I've done all of this, but am still getting strange errors (even on a "normal" unpatched version of the search), so I need to figure out if I have a problem on my end or what's going on. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:27:52 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org @Jeremy: Sorting by two fields does not seem to work. @Moshe: This code does not rely on the fact that wid is an auto_increment field in any way. Just some concerns did. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:29:28 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org Oops, that comment should have been for another issue.
Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/28159 Post a follow up: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/28159 Project: Drupal Version: cvs Component: search.module Category: feature requests Priority: normal Assigned to: Steven Reported by: Steven Updated by: matt_paz Status: patch (code needs review) Nice addition! It seems to be working great. It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens. matt_paz Previous comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 00:46:49 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_2.patch (37.05 KB) Here's my promised search patch. It's not 100% commit ready yet, but it's time to sollicit some feedback and get this tested ;). Note that this patch requires a db update, which will wipe the search index. You will then need to call cron.php enough times for the site to be indexed completely again. This could take a while for large databases, but you can control the throttle and see the progress at admin/settings/search. *Features* * AND keyword matching by default ('all of the words'), instead of OR ('any of the words'). * OR support through keyword1 OR keyword2 OR ... * Phrase searching through "quoted strings". * Negative matching through -"minus prefix" -word. * Restrict search by taxonomy or node type(s) using taxonomy:1,2 and type:blog,page. The options are built-into the keyword string through a google like syntax, but there is an expandable "advanced settings" form below the search box which acts as a 'query builder': This example will result in the following search string (of course not a practical example): test type:forum,story category:1 "tinky winky" OR "dipsy" -"uh oh" "teletubby bye bye" On a different note, I removed the wildcard matching. An important reason is that there were significant performance problems with leading wildcards. Such queries were not be able to use any indices, and the resulting full-table scan took a long time. Even Google does not have intra-word wildcards, theirs can only be used as placeholders for entire words in phrases. Trailing wildcards on the other hand are usually used to accomodate grammatical variations on a word. But, wildcards are not really the best tool for this as this puts a burden on the user. If you need this feature, you should instead tie in an algorithm like the Porter Stemmer through the search_preprocess hook. That way you can reduce related words to a single common root (e.g. "walker" "walking" "walked" to "walk"). The search system will then index and search on the reduced words. You will even benefit from a reduced database size because there are less unique words. Because such algorithms are very language specific, I didn't build in any. But it should be trivial to make a Porter Stemmer module for Drupal search, which can be used on english sites. *Database* To implement the above searches, I added a 'search_dataset' table that is independent of the keyword index. Each dataset row contains the entire contents of the indexed item, but filtered, cleaned up and reduced to space-sparated tokens (words, numbers, dates, ...). This table is used to resolve the exact conditions, which means the keyword index is not as essential anymore. Because searches are AND by default, the OR method of search_index acts as an initial filter to eliminate the majority of items immediately. That subset is then further reduced through the search_dataset table. All of this means that the search_index table can now be indexed at a much higher minimum word lenght (e.g. 5), which means a reduced database size. Even with the new dataset table, the net database size shrinks slightly. I also implemented the searching as two selects into temporary tables. This allows me to avoid doing a costly counting query for the pager and a range-limited query for the actual results. I added support for temporary tables to database.(my|pg)sql. The db api itself takes a normal SELECT and a table name, and turns it into an appropriate platform specific temporary table query (CREATE TABLE ... AS, CREATE TABLE ... SELECT). I still need to do detailed benchmarking, but at least for the same queries as before, this patch should be faster. Of course, pre-patch, all searches were OR, not AND, so a direct comparison needs to take this into account (the pre-patch query "drupal theme development" is now "drupal OR theme OR development"). One feature request that I did not do is date based searching (before X/X/X, after X/X/X), mostly because we don't have a good date widget yet. I've been toying with making a simple in-page JS data picker, but it's not done yet and I think the patch is good enough already. Date restrictions can be added on later without any problems. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 01:27:29 +0000 : Steven Oh and in case this wasn't clear, the syntax of putting extra conditions into the search keywords ("type:blog") means that each search result page can be linked to directly. They all have clean URLs: search/node/type:blog+keyword for example. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 02:34:38 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch (37.05 KB) Sorry, the patch was malformed because wincvs wrapped those really long preg classes :P. Fixed patch attached. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:28:14 +0000 : stevryn This looks great, cant wait till its fully ready. I tried trip_search, but couldnt get it to work, and the regular search definately needed some better features! I would like to test it, but I have no idea how to apply a patch. Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it? Tx T ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:23:08 +0000 : webchick
Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it?
I can help you there, I think. Follow step 2 here if you don't already have a CVS version of Drupal up and running (you can't use this patch against 4.6.2, for example): http://www.planetsoc.com/node/164 Then, switch to your Drupal CVS root directory, for example: cd ~/drupal-cvs Use wget to retrieve a copy of the most recent patch (in this case, search_3.patch): wget http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch Execute the following command to apply the patch to your Drupal installation: patch -p0 -u < search_3.patch This will patch all the files with the updated search. Then go through the normal steps you would go through to get a new Drupal system up and running. Step 3 of the aforementioned link has some info on how to get a table prefix going if you want to keep this test version separate from your "normal" Drupal installation. My problem is I've done all of this, but am still getting strange errors (even on a "normal" unpatched version of the search), so I need to figure out if I have a problem on my end or what's going on. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:27:52 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org @Jeremy: Sorting by two fields does not seem to work. @Moshe: This code does not rely on the fact that wid is an auto_increment field in any way. Just some concerns did. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:29:28 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org Oops, that comment should have been for another issue. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:49:36 +0000 : matt_paz It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens.
Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/28159 Post a follow up: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/28159 Project: Drupal Version: cvs Component: search.module Category: feature requests Priority: normal Assigned to: Steven Reported by: Steven Updated by: stevryn Status: patch (code needs review) Thanks webchick! I have it working now. Great work Steven, my live site is 4.6.1, I havent wanted to take the great leap and update, last time I did it was *not* pretty. I assume this will work with that version once its completed and submitted? Seriously the search functionality needs this sort of advanced features!! Tx for all your work! stevryn Previous comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 00:46:49 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_2.patch (37.05 KB) Here's my promised search patch. It's not 100% commit ready yet, but it's time to sollicit some feedback and get this tested ;). Note that this patch requires a db update, which will wipe the search index. You will then need to call cron.php enough times for the site to be indexed completely again. This could take a while for large databases, but you can control the throttle and see the progress at admin/settings/search. *Features* * AND keyword matching by default ('all of the words'), instead of OR ('any of the words'). * OR support through keyword1 OR keyword2 OR ... * Phrase searching through "quoted strings". * Negative matching through -"minus prefix" -word. * Restrict search by taxonomy or node type(s) using taxonomy:1,2 and type:blog,page. The options are built-into the keyword string through a google like syntax, but there is an expandable "advanced settings" form below the search box which acts as a 'query builder': This example will result in the following search string (of course not a practical example): test type:forum,story category:1 "tinky winky" OR "dipsy" -"uh oh" "teletubby bye bye" On a different note, I removed the wildcard matching. An important reason is that there were significant performance problems with leading wildcards. Such queries were not be able to use any indices, and the resulting full-table scan took a long time. Even Google does not have intra-word wildcards, theirs can only be used as placeholders for entire words in phrases. Trailing wildcards on the other hand are usually used to accomodate grammatical variations on a word. But, wildcards are not really the best tool for this as this puts a burden on the user. If you need this feature, you should instead tie in an algorithm like the Porter Stemmer through the search_preprocess hook. That way you can reduce related words to a single common root (e.g. "walker" "walking" "walked" to "walk"). The search system will then index and search on the reduced words. You will even benefit from a reduced database size because there are less unique words. Because such algorithms are very language specific, I didn't build in any. But it should be trivial to make a Porter Stemmer module for Drupal search, which can be used on english sites. *Database* To implement the above searches, I added a 'search_dataset' table that is independent of the keyword index. Each dataset row contains the entire contents of the indexed item, but filtered, cleaned up and reduced to space-sparated tokens (words, numbers, dates, ...). This table is used to resolve the exact conditions, which means the keyword index is not as essential anymore. Because searches are AND by default, the OR method of search_index acts as an initial filter to eliminate the majority of items immediately. That subset is then further reduced through the search_dataset table. All of this means that the search_index table can now be indexed at a much higher minimum word lenght (e.g. 5), which means a reduced database size. Even with the new dataset table, the net database size shrinks slightly. I also implemented the searching as two selects into temporary tables. This allows me to avoid doing a costly counting query for the pager and a range-limited query for the actual results. I added support for temporary tables to database.(my|pg)sql. The db api itself takes a normal SELECT and a table name, and turns it into an appropriate platform specific temporary table query (CREATE TABLE ... AS, CREATE TABLE ... SELECT). I still need to do detailed benchmarking, but at least for the same queries as before, this patch should be faster. Of course, pre-patch, all searches were OR, not AND, so a direct comparison needs to take this into account (the pre-patch query "drupal theme development" is now "drupal OR theme OR development"). One feature request that I did not do is date based searching (before X/X/X, after X/X/X), mostly because we don't have a good date widget yet. I've been toying with making a simple in-page JS data picker, but it's not done yet and I think the patch is good enough already. Date restrictions can be added on later without any problems. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 01:27:29 +0000 : Steven Oh and in case this wasn't clear, the syntax of putting extra conditions into the search keywords ("type:blog") means that each search result page can be linked to directly. They all have clean URLs: search/node/type:blog+keyword for example. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 02:34:38 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch (37.05 KB) Sorry, the patch was malformed because wincvs wrapped those really long preg classes :P. Fixed patch attached. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:28:14 +0000 : stevryn This looks great, cant wait till its fully ready. I tried trip_search, but couldnt get it to work, and the regular search definately needed some better features! I would like to test it, but I have no idea how to apply a patch. Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it? Tx T ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:23:08 +0000 : webchick
Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it?
I can help you there, I think. Follow step 2 here if you don't already have a CVS version of Drupal up and running (you can't use this patch against 4.6.2, for example): http://www.planetsoc.com/node/164 Then, switch to your Drupal CVS root directory, for example: cd ~/drupal-cvs Use wget to retrieve a copy of the most recent patch (in this case, search_3.patch): wget http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch Execute the following command to apply the patch to your Drupal installation: patch -p0 -u < search_3.patch This will patch all the files with the updated search. Then go through the normal steps you would go through to get a new Drupal system up and running. Step 3 of the aforementioned link has some info on how to get a table prefix going if you want to keep this test version separate from your "normal" Drupal installation. My problem is I've done all of this, but am still getting strange errors (even on a "normal" unpatched version of the search), so I need to figure out if I have a problem on my end or what's going on. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:27:52 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org @Jeremy: Sorting by two fields does not seem to work. @Moshe: This code does not rely on the fact that wid is an auto_increment field in any way. Just some concerns did. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:29:28 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org Oops, that comment should have been for another issue. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:49:36 +0000 : matt_paz It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:50:11 +0000 : matt_paz Nice addition! It seems to be working great. It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens.
stevryn wrote:
my live site is 4.6.1, I havent wanted to take the great leap and update, last time I did it was *not* pretty.
I hope at least that you've taken steps to protect yourself from the XML-RPC security issue that makes it a trivial operation to take control of the machine your site is running on? Really --- NOBODY should be running 4.6.1, no matter how hard it may seem to upgrade.
I might add that you should download a program like rootkit hunter [1] and see if your machine has been compromised. If you are running on managed hosting you might want to write a note to the hosting company asking them to do the same. It's not like attackers are going to send you a postcard "FYI we own your server now". [1] http://www.rootkit.nl/ Robert Douglass wrote:
stevryn wrote:
my live site is 4.6.1, I havent wanted to take the great leap and update, last time I did it was *not* pretty.
I hope at least that you've taken steps to protect yourself from the XML-RPC security issue that makes it a trivial operation to take control of the machine your site is running on?
Really --- NOBODY should be running 4.6.1, no matter how hard it may seem to upgrade.
Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/28159 Post a follow up: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/28159 Project: Drupal Version: cvs Component: search.module Category: feature requests Priority: normal Assigned to: Steven Reported by: Steven Updated by: Kobus Status: patch (code needs review) Hi! Like the previous replier to this post, I can't apply patches myself, but simply because I don't do it frequently enough, and forgot how to do it, but I will catch up with this and test if I get a chance. In principle this is a great patch! Definate +1. I have another feature (not sure it belongs to this thread, so if not, I apologize) that I would love to see in the search module. That is to provide hooks so that you can create a customized search form, for example, I need the following three field sets in a search form for a property website: * Price range "Start price" -> "End price", using some MIN() and MAX() functions if the user selects the wrong way around. (dropdowns with certain ranges). * Area where the property is supposed to be located in (taxonomy category). * Features that the property MUST have, for example, your requirement would be "TWO BATHROOMS" or "FOUR BEDROOMS". (Search through checkboxes, radios and text fields that was defined in the "property.module" file and database structure. (This module is written by an amateur (me), that's why not contributed, but, should there be interest in it, I will contribute it.) These extra search forms would be way different for each different application, so I don't expect the search module to be able to actually do this, but at least to provide functionality that a coder can write such an extension in his module, in other words, the queries that will define the search, and the form that the user will see, should be definable in the module, and called instead of the default search form if required. Will this be possible at all? Regards, Kobus Kobus Previous comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 00:46:49 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_2.patch (37.05 KB) Here's my promised search patch. It's not 100% commit ready yet, but it's time to sollicit some feedback and get this tested ;). Note that this patch requires a db update, which will wipe the search index. You will then need to call cron.php enough times for the site to be indexed completely again. This could take a while for large databases, but you can control the throttle and see the progress at admin/settings/search. *Features* * AND keyword matching by default ('all of the words'), instead of OR ('any of the words'). * OR support through keyword1 OR keyword2 OR ... * Phrase searching through "quoted strings". * Negative matching through -"minus prefix" -word. * Restrict search by taxonomy or node type(s) using taxonomy:1,2 and type:blog,page. The options are built-into the keyword string through a google like syntax, but there is an expandable "advanced settings" form below the search box which acts as a 'query builder': This example will result in the following search string (of course not a practical example): test type:forum,story category:1 "tinky winky" OR "dipsy" -"uh oh" "teletubby bye bye" On a different note, I removed the wildcard matching. An important reason is that there were significant performance problems with leading wildcards. Such queries were not be able to use any indices, and the resulting full-table scan took a long time. Even Google does not have intra-word wildcards, theirs can only be used as placeholders for entire words in phrases. Trailing wildcards on the other hand are usually used to accomodate grammatical variations on a word. But, wildcards are not really the best tool for this as this puts a burden on the user. If you need this feature, you should instead tie in an algorithm like the Porter Stemmer through the search_preprocess hook. That way you can reduce related words to a single common root (e.g. "walker" "walking" "walked" to "walk"). The search system will then index and search on the reduced words. You will even benefit from a reduced database size because there are less unique words. Because such algorithms are very language specific, I didn't build in any. But it should be trivial to make a Porter Stemmer module for Drupal search, which can be used on english sites. *Database* To implement the above searches, I added a 'search_dataset' table that is independent of the keyword index. Each dataset row contains the entire contents of the indexed item, but filtered, cleaned up and reduced to space-sparated tokens (words, numbers, dates, ...). This table is used to resolve the exact conditions, which means the keyword index is not as essential anymore. Because searches are AND by default, the OR method of search_index acts as an initial filter to eliminate the majority of items immediately. That subset is then further reduced through the search_dataset table. All of this means that the search_index table can now be indexed at a much higher minimum word lenght (e.g. 5), which means a reduced database size. Even with the new dataset table, the net database size shrinks slightly. I also implemented the searching as two selects into temporary tables. This allows me to avoid doing a costly counting query for the pager and a range-limited query for the actual results. I added support for temporary tables to database.(my|pg)sql. The db api itself takes a normal SELECT and a table name, and turns it into an appropriate platform specific temporary table query (CREATE TABLE ... AS, CREATE TABLE ... SELECT). I still need to do detailed benchmarking, but at least for the same queries as before, this patch should be faster. Of course, pre-patch, all searches were OR, not AND, so a direct comparison needs to take this into account (the pre-patch query "drupal theme development" is now "drupal OR theme OR development"). One feature request that I did not do is date based searching (before X/X/X, after X/X/X), mostly because we don't have a good date widget yet. I've been toying with making a simple in-page JS data picker, but it's not done yet and I think the patch is good enough already. Date restrictions can be added on later without any problems. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 01:27:29 +0000 : Steven Oh and in case this wasn't clear, the syntax of putting extra conditions into the search keywords ("type:blog") means that each search result page can be linked to directly. They all have clean URLs: search/node/type:blog+keyword for example. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 02:34:38 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch (37.05 KB) Sorry, the patch was malformed because wincvs wrapped those really long preg classes :P. Fixed patch attached. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:28:14 +0000 : stevryn This looks great, cant wait till its fully ready. I tried trip_search, but couldnt get it to work, and the regular search definately needed some better features! I would like to test it, but I have no idea how to apply a patch. Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it? Tx T ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:23:08 +0000 : webchick
Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it?
I can help you there, I think. Follow step 2 here if you don't already have a CVS version of Drupal up and running (you can't use this patch against 4.6.2, for example): http://www.planetsoc.com/node/164 Then, switch to your Drupal CVS root directory, for example: cd ~/drupal-cvs Use wget to retrieve a copy of the most recent patch (in this case, search_3.patch): wget http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch Execute the following command to apply the patch to your Drupal installation: patch -p0 -u < search_3.patch This will patch all the files with the updated search. Then go through the normal steps you would go through to get a new Drupal system up and running. Step 3 of the aforementioned link has some info on how to get a table prefix going if you want to keep this test version separate from your "normal" Drupal installation. My problem is I've done all of this, but am still getting strange errors (even on a "normal" unpatched version of the search), so I need to figure out if I have a problem on my end or what's going on. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:27:52 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org @Jeremy: Sorting by two fields does not seem to work. @Moshe: This code does not rely on the fact that wid is an auto_increment field in any way. Just some concerns did. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:29:28 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org Oops, that comment should have been for another issue. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:49:36 +0000 : matt_paz It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:50:11 +0000 : matt_paz Nice addition! It seems to be working great. It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 17:20:48 +0000 : stevryn Thanks webchick! I have it working now. Great work Steven, my live site is 4.6.1, I havent wanted to take the great leap and update, last time I did it was *not* pretty. I assume this will work with that version once its completed and submitted? Seriously the search functionality needs this sort of advanced features!! Tx for all your work!
Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/28159 Post a follow up: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/28159 Project: Drupal Version: cvs Component: search.module Category: feature requests Priority: normal Assigned to: Steven Reported by: Steven Updated by: lgarfiel Status: patch (code needs review) @Kobus: Actually you can do that now. See the Location module for an example of a fully custom search function. lgarfiel Previous comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 00:46:49 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_2.patch (37.05 KB) Here's my promised search patch. It's not 100% commit ready yet, but it's time to sollicit some feedback and get this tested ;). Note that this patch requires a db update, which will wipe the search index. You will then need to call cron.php enough times for the site to be indexed completely again. This could take a while for large databases, but you can control the throttle and see the progress at admin/settings/search. *Features* * AND keyword matching by default ('all of the words'), instead of OR ('any of the words'). * OR support through keyword1 OR keyword2 OR ... * Phrase searching through "quoted strings". * Negative matching through -"minus prefix" -word. * Restrict search by taxonomy or node type(s) using taxonomy:1,2 and type:blog,page. The options are built-into the keyword string through a google like syntax, but there is an expandable "advanced settings" form below the search box which acts as a 'query builder': This example will result in the following search string (of course not a practical example): test type:forum,story category:1 "tinky winky" OR "dipsy" -"uh oh" "teletubby bye bye" On a different note, I removed the wildcard matching. An important reason is that there were significant performance problems with leading wildcards. Such queries were not be able to use any indices, and the resulting full-table scan took a long time. Even Google does not have intra-word wildcards, theirs can only be used as placeholders for entire words in phrases. Trailing wildcards on the other hand are usually used to accomodate grammatical variations on a word. But, wildcards are not really the best tool for this as this puts a burden on the user. If you need this feature, you should instead tie in an algorithm like the Porter Stemmer through the search_preprocess hook. That way you can reduce related words to a single common root (e.g. "walker" "walking" "walked" to "walk"). The search system will then index and search on the reduced words. You will even benefit from a reduced database size because there are less unique words. Because such algorithms are very language specific, I didn't build in any. But it should be trivial to make a Porter Stemmer module for Drupal search, which can be used on english sites. *Database* To implement the above searches, I added a 'search_dataset' table that is independent of the keyword index. Each dataset row contains the entire contents of the indexed item, but filtered, cleaned up and reduced to space-sparated tokens (words, numbers, dates, ...). This table is used to resolve the exact conditions, which means the keyword index is not as essential anymore. Because searches are AND by default, the OR method of search_index acts as an initial filter to eliminate the majority of items immediately. That subset is then further reduced through the search_dataset table. All of this means that the search_index table can now be indexed at a much higher minimum word lenght (e.g. 5), which means a reduced database size. Even with the new dataset table, the net database size shrinks slightly. I also implemented the searching as two selects into temporary tables. This allows me to avoid doing a costly counting query for the pager and a range-limited query for the actual results. I added support for temporary tables to database.(my|pg)sql. The db api itself takes a normal SELECT and a table name, and turns it into an appropriate platform specific temporary table query (CREATE TABLE ... AS, CREATE TABLE ... SELECT). I still need to do detailed benchmarking, but at least for the same queries as before, this patch should be faster. Of course, pre-patch, all searches were OR, not AND, so a direct comparison needs to take this into account (the pre-patch query "drupal theme development" is now "drupal OR theme OR development"). One feature request that I did not do is date based searching (before X/X/X, after X/X/X), mostly because we don't have a good date widget yet. I've been toying with making a simple in-page JS data picker, but it's not done yet and I think the patch is good enough already. Date restrictions can be added on later without any problems. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 01:27:29 +0000 : Steven Oh and in case this wasn't clear, the syntax of putting extra conditions into the search keywords ("type:blog") means that each search result page can be linked to directly. They all have clean URLs: search/node/type:blog+keyword for example. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 02:34:38 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch (37.05 KB) Sorry, the patch was malformed because wincvs wrapped those really long preg classes :P. Fixed patch attached. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:28:14 +0000 : stevryn This looks great, cant wait till its fully ready. I tried trip_search, but couldnt get it to work, and the regular search definately needed some better features! I would like to test it, but I have no idea how to apply a patch. Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it? Tx T ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:23:08 +0000 : webchick
Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it?
I can help you there, I think. Follow step 2 here if you don't already have a CVS version of Drupal up and running (you can't use this patch against 4.6.2, for example): http://www.planetsoc.com/node/164 Then, switch to your Drupal CVS root directory, for example: cd ~/drupal-cvs Use wget to retrieve a copy of the most recent patch (in this case, search_3.patch): wget http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch Execute the following command to apply the patch to your Drupal installation: patch -p0 -u < search_3.patch This will patch all the files with the updated search. Then go through the normal steps you would go through to get a new Drupal system up and running. Step 3 of the aforementioned link has some info on how to get a table prefix going if you want to keep this test version separate from your "normal" Drupal installation. My problem is I've done all of this, but am still getting strange errors (even on a "normal" unpatched version of the search), so I need to figure out if I have a problem on my end or what's going on. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:27:52 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org @Jeremy: Sorting by two fields does not seem to work. @Moshe: This code does not rely on the fact that wid is an auto_increment field in any way. Just some concerns did. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:29:28 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org Oops, that comment should have been for another issue. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:49:36 +0000 : matt_paz It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:50:11 +0000 : matt_paz Nice addition! It seems to be working great. It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 17:20:48 +0000 : stevryn Thanks webchick! I have it working now. Great work Steven, my live site is 4.6.1, I havent wanted to take the great leap and update, last time I did it was *not* pretty. I assume this will work with that version once its completed and submitted? Seriously the search functionality needs this sort of advanced features!! Tx for all your work! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:19:51 +0000 : Kobus Hi! Like the previous replier to this post, I can't apply patches myself, but simply because I don't do it frequently enough, and forgot how to do it, but I will catch up with this and test if I get a chance. In principle this is a great patch! Definate +1. I have another feature (not sure it belongs to this thread, so if not, I apologize) that I would love to see in the search module. That is to provide hooks so that you can create a customized search form, for example, I need the following three field sets in a search form for a property website: * Price range "Start price" -> "End price", using some MIN() and MAX() functions if the user selects the wrong way around. (dropdowns with certain ranges). * Area where the property is supposed to be located in (taxonomy category). * Features that the property MUST have, for example, your requirement would be "TWO BATHROOMS" or "FOUR BEDROOMS". (Search through checkboxes, radios and text fields that was defined in the "property.module" file and database structure. (This module is written by an amateur (me), that's why not contributed, but, should there be interest in it, I will contribute it.) These extra search forms would be way different for each different application, so I don't expect the search module to be able to actually do this, but at least to provide functionality that a coder can write such an extension in his module, in other words, the queries that will define the search, and the form that the user will see, should be definable in the module, and called instead of the default search form if required. Will this be possible at all? Regards, Kobus
Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/28159 Post a follow up: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/28159 Project: Drupal Version: cvs Component: search.module Category: feature requests Priority: normal Assigned to: Steven Reported by: Steven Updated by: Kobus Status: patch (code needs review) Hi! Thanks lgarfiel. I have downloaded the module and will play around with it over the weekend. Regards, Kobus Kobus Previous comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 00:46:49 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_2.patch (37.05 KB) Here's my promised search patch. It's not 100% commit ready yet, but it's time to sollicit some feedback and get this tested ;). Note that this patch requires a db update, which will wipe the search index. You will then need to call cron.php enough times for the site to be indexed completely again. This could take a while for large databases, but you can control the throttle and see the progress at admin/settings/search. *Features* * AND keyword matching by default ('all of the words'), instead of OR ('any of the words'). * OR support through keyword1 OR keyword2 OR ... * Phrase searching through "quoted strings". * Negative matching through -"minus prefix" -word. * Restrict search by taxonomy or node type(s) using taxonomy:1,2 and type:blog,page. The options are built-into the keyword string through a google like syntax, but there is an expandable "advanced settings" form below the search box which acts as a 'query builder': This example will result in the following search string (of course not a practical example): test type:forum,story category:1 "tinky winky" OR "dipsy" -"uh oh" "teletubby bye bye" On a different note, I removed the wildcard matching. An important reason is that there were significant performance problems with leading wildcards. Such queries were not be able to use any indices, and the resulting full-table scan took a long time. Even Google does not have intra-word wildcards, theirs can only be used as placeholders for entire words in phrases. Trailing wildcards on the other hand are usually used to accomodate grammatical variations on a word. But, wildcards are not really the best tool for this as this puts a burden on the user. If you need this feature, you should instead tie in an algorithm like the Porter Stemmer through the search_preprocess hook. That way you can reduce related words to a single common root (e.g. "walker" "walking" "walked" to "walk"). The search system will then index and search on the reduced words. You will even benefit from a reduced database size because there are less unique words. Because such algorithms are very language specific, I didn't build in any. But it should be trivial to make a Porter Stemmer module for Drupal search, which can be used on english sites. *Database* To implement the above searches, I added a 'search_dataset' table that is independent of the keyword index. Each dataset row contains the entire contents of the indexed item, but filtered, cleaned up and reduced to space-sparated tokens (words, numbers, dates, ...). This table is used to resolve the exact conditions, which means the keyword index is not as essential anymore. Because searches are AND by default, the OR method of search_index acts as an initial filter to eliminate the majority of items immediately. That subset is then further reduced through the search_dataset table. All of this means that the search_index table can now be indexed at a much higher minimum word lenght (e.g. 5), which means a reduced database size. Even with the new dataset table, the net database size shrinks slightly. I also implemented the searching as two selects into temporary tables. This allows me to avoid doing a costly counting query for the pager and a range-limited query for the actual results. I added support for temporary tables to database.(my|pg)sql. The db api itself takes a normal SELECT and a table name, and turns it into an appropriate platform specific temporary table query (CREATE TABLE ... AS, CREATE TABLE ... SELECT). I still need to do detailed benchmarking, but at least for the same queries as before, this patch should be faster. Of course, pre-patch, all searches were OR, not AND, so a direct comparison needs to take this into account (the pre-patch query "drupal theme development" is now "drupal OR theme OR development"). One feature request that I did not do is date based searching (before X/X/X, after X/X/X), mostly because we don't have a good date widget yet. I've been toying with making a simple in-page JS data picker, but it's not done yet and I think the patch is good enough already. Date restrictions can be added on later without any problems. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 01:27:29 +0000 : Steven Oh and in case this wasn't clear, the syntax of putting extra conditions into the search keywords ("type:blog") means that each search result page can be linked to directly. They all have clean URLs: search/node/type:blog+keyword for example. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 02:34:38 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch (37.05 KB) Sorry, the patch was malformed because wincvs wrapped those really long preg classes :P. Fixed patch attached. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:28:14 +0000 : stevryn This looks great, cant wait till its fully ready. I tried trip_search, but couldnt get it to work, and the regular search definately needed some better features! I would like to test it, but I have no idea how to apply a patch. Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it? Tx T ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:23:08 +0000 : webchick
Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it?
I can help you there, I think. Follow step 2 here if you don't already have a CVS version of Drupal up and running (you can't use this patch against 4.6.2, for example): http://www.planetsoc.com/node/164 Then, switch to your Drupal CVS root directory, for example: cd ~/drupal-cvs Use wget to retrieve a copy of the most recent patch (in this case, search_3.patch): wget http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch Execute the following command to apply the patch to your Drupal installation: patch -p0 -u < search_3.patch This will patch all the files with the updated search. Then go through the normal steps you would go through to get a new Drupal system up and running. Step 3 of the aforementioned link has some info on how to get a table prefix going if you want to keep this test version separate from your "normal" Drupal installation. My problem is I've done all of this, but am still getting strange errors (even on a "normal" unpatched version of the search), so I need to figure out if I have a problem on my end or what's going on. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:27:52 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org @Jeremy: Sorting by two fields does not seem to work. @Moshe: This code does not rely on the fact that wid is an auto_increment field in any way. Just some concerns did. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:29:28 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org Oops, that comment should have been for another issue. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:49:36 +0000 : matt_paz It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:50:11 +0000 : matt_paz Nice addition! It seems to be working great. It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 17:20:48 +0000 : stevryn Thanks webchick! I have it working now. Great work Steven, my live site is 4.6.1, I havent wanted to take the great leap and update, last time I did it was *not* pretty. I assume this will work with that version once its completed and submitted? Seriously the search functionality needs this sort of advanced features!! Tx for all your work! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:19:51 +0000 : Kobus Hi! Like the previous replier to this post, I can't apply patches myself, but simply because I don't do it frequently enough, and forgot how to do it, but I will catch up with this and test if I get a chance. In principle this is a great patch! Definate +1. I have another feature (not sure it belongs to this thread, so if not, I apologize) that I would love to see in the search module. That is to provide hooks so that you can create a customized search form, for example, I need the following three field sets in a search form for a property website: * Price range "Start price" -> "End price", using some MIN() and MAX() functions if the user selects the wrong way around. (dropdowns with certain ranges). * Area where the property is supposed to be located in (taxonomy category). * Features that the property MUST have, for example, your requirement would be "TWO BATHROOMS" or "FOUR BEDROOMS". (Search through checkboxes, radios and text fields that was defined in the "property.module" file and database structure. (This module is written by an amateur (me), that's why not contributed, but, should there be interest in it, I will contribute it.) These extra search forms would be way different for each different application, so I don't expect the search module to be able to actually do this, but at least to provide functionality that a coder can write such an extension in his module, in other words, the queries that will define the search, and the form that the user will see, should be definable in the module, and called instead of the default search form if required. Will this be possible at all? Regards, Kobus ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:42:59 +0000 : lgarfiel @Kobus: Actually you can do that now. See the Location module for an example of a fully custom search function.
Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/28159 Post a follow up: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/28159 Project: Drupal Version: cvs Component: search.module Category: feature requests Priority: normal Assigned to: Steven Reported by: Steven Updated by: Bèr Kessels Status: patch (code needs review) * my update failed. You had/have a problem in update.inc in the updates/callback array. I had-modified the database and it works fine now. * I am not happy with the 5 character default limit. It took me quite some time to find out why my words were not indexed. But that should not hold back this patch. More somthing to have acloser look for in teh future. I think of intelligent auto-blackslisting or so. * When I do an advanced search, teh resutlts are primted in the box: very good!. But my advaced form is emty. That is no good udability, imo. That form should represent what I was searching for. * I still do not like he way results are returned by default: "weblink - Bèr Kessels - 05/08/2005 - 14:20 - 0 comments" is far too much data. And i even have "do not show data for foo", set in the theme settings! can we please re-thing the *default* styles for search results? Without all the CSS bloat, and without all the details? Why not go for a default teaser vew? $node->title = $title //the name, subject or title of teh element $node->teaser = $content // teh nice highlighted data of search result body That way it wil be consisten tih teh rest of the site, save a *lot* of code and be better theamble too. * "your serach yielded no results" should be a set_message. Yes, we discussed that it should be in the place where ppl look for the results. but I tried it, and it is just as visible above the search as below! really. (see screenie) Overall, i think introducing a complex search is very nice. And i think this is a great step forward. But I much rather see, this being implemented in a MUCH easier API as well as MUCH easier hooks. preprocessing as a single hook. What /is/ preprocessing? form, index, etc in one hook? why put preprocess ii a single hook, but the others on one huge nodapi alike construction? What do they do, these nodeapi things? Why do I need them and when do I need them? I say this, because I spent hours with and hours trial-and-error methods to get some form of advanced flexinode search going. The current system is just to hard to grok for an average developer like me. I know these things are easy to say, but very hard to implement. But as long as we cannot allow searching for the obvious data people see (I am sure I read that that search guru has winamp as favorite, why can't i find his username when i search for winamp) I think we should be carefull with extending the search into advanced search. Can we not first think of a general solution, one that will fix ALL drupals search problems and then dive into advanced searching, that will make it even more complex? Steven: I still think you did a marvelous job! Bèr Kessels Previous comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 00:46:49 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_2.patch (37.05 KB) Here's my promised search patch. It's not 100% commit ready yet, but it's time to sollicit some feedback and get this tested ;). Note that this patch requires a db update, which will wipe the search index. You will then need to call cron.php enough times for the site to be indexed completely again. This could take a while for large databases, but you can control the throttle and see the progress at admin/settings/search. *Features* * AND keyword matching by default ('all of the words'), instead of OR ('any of the words'). * OR support through keyword1 OR keyword2 OR ... * Phrase searching through "quoted strings". * Negative matching through -"minus prefix" -word. * Restrict search by taxonomy or node type(s) using taxonomy:1,2 and type:blog,page. The options are built-into the keyword string through a google like syntax, but there is an expandable "advanced settings" form below the search box which acts as a 'query builder': This example will result in the following search string (of course not a practical example): test type:forum,story category:1 "tinky winky" OR "dipsy" -"uh oh" "teletubby bye bye" On a different note, I removed the wildcard matching. An important reason is that there were significant performance problems with leading wildcards. Such queries were not be able to use any indices, and the resulting full-table scan took a long time. Even Google does not have intra-word wildcards, theirs can only be used as placeholders for entire words in phrases. Trailing wildcards on the other hand are usually used to accomodate grammatical variations on a word. But, wildcards are not really the best tool for this as this puts a burden on the user. If you need this feature, you should instead tie in an algorithm like the Porter Stemmer through the search_preprocess hook. That way you can reduce related words to a single common root (e.g. "walker" "walking" "walked" to "walk"). The search system will then index and search on the reduced words. You will even benefit from a reduced database size because there are less unique words. Because such algorithms are very language specific, I didn't build in any. But it should be trivial to make a Porter Stemmer module for Drupal search, which can be used on english sites. *Database* To implement the above searches, I added a 'search_dataset' table that is independent of the keyword index. Each dataset row contains the entire contents of the indexed item, but filtered, cleaned up and reduced to space-sparated tokens (words, numbers, dates, ...). This table is used to resolve the exact conditions, which means the keyword index is not as essential anymore. Because searches are AND by default, the OR method of search_index acts as an initial filter to eliminate the majority of items immediately. That subset is then further reduced through the search_dataset table. All of this means that the search_index table can now be indexed at a much higher minimum word lenght (e.g. 5), which means a reduced database size. Even with the new dataset table, the net database size shrinks slightly. I also implemented the searching as two selects into temporary tables. This allows me to avoid doing a costly counting query for the pager and a range-limited query for the actual results. I added support for temporary tables to database.(my|pg)sql. The db api itself takes a normal SELECT and a table name, and turns it into an appropriate platform specific temporary table query (CREATE TABLE ... AS, CREATE TABLE ... SELECT). I still need to do detailed benchmarking, but at least for the same queries as before, this patch should be faster. Of course, pre-patch, all searches were OR, not AND, so a direct comparison needs to take this into account (the pre-patch query "drupal theme development" is now "drupal OR theme OR development"). One feature request that I did not do is date based searching (before X/X/X, after X/X/X), mostly because we don't have a good date widget yet. I've been toying with making a simple in-page JS data picker, but it's not done yet and I think the patch is good enough already. Date restrictions can be added on later without any problems. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 01:27:29 +0000 : Steven Oh and in case this wasn't clear, the syntax of putting extra conditions into the search keywords ("type:blog") means that each search result page can be linked to directly. They all have clean URLs: search/node/type:blog+keyword for example. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 02:34:38 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch (37.05 KB) Sorry, the patch was malformed because wincvs wrapped those really long preg classes :P. Fixed patch attached. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:28:14 +0000 : stevryn This looks great, cant wait till its fully ready. I tried trip_search, but couldnt get it to work, and the regular search definately needed some better features! I would like to test it, but I have no idea how to apply a patch. Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it? Tx T ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:23:08 +0000 : webchick
Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it?
I can help you there, I think. Follow step 2 here if you don't already have a CVS version of Drupal up and running (you can't use this patch against 4.6.2, for example): http://www.planetsoc.com/node/164 Then, switch to your Drupal CVS root directory, for example: cd ~/drupal-cvs Use wget to retrieve a copy of the most recent patch (in this case, search_3.patch): wget http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch Execute the following command to apply the patch to your Drupal installation: patch -p0 -u < search_3.patch This will patch all the files with the updated search. Then go through the normal steps you would go through to get a new Drupal system up and running. Step 3 of the aforementioned link has some info on how to get a table prefix going if you want to keep this test version separate from your "normal" Drupal installation. My problem is I've done all of this, but am still getting strange errors (even on a "normal" unpatched version of the search), so I need to figure out if I have a problem on my end or what's going on. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:27:52 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org @Jeremy: Sorting by two fields does not seem to work. @Moshe: This code does not rely on the fact that wid is an auto_increment field in any way. Just some concerns did. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:29:28 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org Oops, that comment should have been for another issue. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:49:36 +0000 : matt_paz It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:50:11 +0000 : matt_paz Nice addition! It seems to be working great. It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 17:20:48 +0000 : stevryn Thanks webchick! I have it working now. Great work Steven, my live site is 4.6.1, I havent wanted to take the great leap and update, last time I did it was *not* pretty. I assume this will work with that version once its completed and submitted? Seriously the search functionality needs this sort of advanced features!! Tx for all your work! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:19:51 +0000 : Kobus Hi! Like the previous replier to this post, I can't apply patches myself, but simply because I don't do it frequently enough, and forgot how to do it, but I will catch up with this and test if I get a chance. In principle this is a great patch! Definate +1. I have another feature (not sure it belongs to this thread, so if not, I apologize) that I would love to see in the search module. That is to provide hooks so that you can create a customized search form, for example, I need the following three field sets in a search form for a property website: * Price range "Start price" -> "End price", using some MIN() and MAX() functions if the user selects the wrong way around. (dropdowns with certain ranges). * Area where the property is supposed to be located in (taxonomy category). * Features that the property MUST have, for example, your requirement would be "TWO BATHROOMS" or "FOUR BEDROOMS". (Search through checkboxes, radios and text fields that was defined in the "property.module" file and database structure. (This module is written by an amateur (me), that's why not contributed, but, should there be interest in it, I will contribute it.) These extra search forms would be way different for each different application, so I don't expect the search module to be able to actually do this, but at least to provide functionality that a coder can write such an extension in his module, in other words, the queries that will define the search, and the form that the user will see, should be definable in the module, and called instead of the default search form if required. Will this be possible at all? Regards, Kobus ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:42:59 +0000 : lgarfiel @Kobus: Actually you can do that now. See the Location module for an example of a fully custom search function. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:59:25 +0000 : Kobus Hi! Thanks lgarfiel. I have downloaded the module and will play around with it over the weekend. Regards, Kobus
Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/28159 Post a follow up: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/28159 Project: Drupal Version: cvs Component: search.module Category: feature requests Priority: normal Assigned to: Steven Reported by: Steven Updated by: Steven Status: patch (code needs review) "* When I do an advanced search, teh resutlts are printed in the box: very good!. But my advaced form is emty. That is no good udability, imo. That form should represent what I was searching for. " I debated over how to implement this, and I went for the current method of not showing anything in the advanced form. The first reason is that parsing a query back into the advanced options is not generally possible. For example, you could have more than one phrase in your query, yet the query builder only accomodates one for simplicity. It is a tool, not a complete equivalent to the keyword syntax. Secondly, there is a conflict between what is in the keywords box and what is in the advanced form. For example, I might build an advanced query, and then start modifying the 'baked in' keyword version. At that point we need to decide which takes precedence, and arguments can be found for both sides. At first I tried to reconcile this by only respecting the advanced controls if you pressed "advanced search", but then there is ambiguity of which button to default to if the user submits the form by pressing enter. I also thought of making it so that the query builder always adds to the keywords (ignoring duplicates), but that means you can't loosen a query except by manually removing parts of the keywords box /and/ manually unchecking the options in the advanced form. After trying out the various options, I found that the usability of the current method is the clearest and results in the least amount of inconsistencies perceived as 'buggy behaviour'. "What /is/ preprocessing? why put preprocess ii a single hook, but the others on one huge nodapi alike construction? " Preprocessing is what it says: a transformation applied to text before it is inserted in and matched against the search index. You can use it to add in stemming algorithms, soundex as well as word-splitting for non-spaced languages like Chinese and Japanese. As for why to put it in a separate hook: for performance reasons. "I am not happy with the 5 character default limit. It took me quite some time to find out why my words were not indexed. But that should not hold back this patch. More somthing to have acloser look for in teh future. I think of intelligent auto-blackslisting or so. " About the limit: it only has any effect if none of the words in your search query is 5 letters or longer. As soon as one word in the query is 5 letters, all results can be found. Judging from drupal.org searches, this was a correct trade-off to make. If you introduce a stemming algorithm through the preprocessor, you can probably afford to set the size limit smaller. But until then, imo 5 is a good default. About intelligent blacklisting: this is not really possible. The goal of blacklisting is to keep the index size down. But to find out which words to blacklist, you need to include them in some sort of index. Chicken and egg. "Can we not first think of a general solution, one that will fix ALL drupals search problems and then dive into advanced searching, that will make it even more complex? " I await your proposals. But until people start getting involved in the architecture rather than just bombarding me with feature-requests and saying that 'search sucks', I can only do things my way. In fact, the biggest complexity hurdle right now is simply that search is optional. This means that all search operations should go through search.module. Modules with 100% custom searches on the other hand can simply put a tab on "search/module" and do everything their way. But that means that that tab will be there even if search.module is disabled and that these modules cannot take advantage of the various utility functions provided by search.module. For example, searching profile fields for user search is perfectly possible even without this patch, though it would require that the user search be moved into profile.module. A nodeapi-like system where profile.module can add to user.module's search would only result in huge joins and queries being added to other queries en-masse. The code would be even more complex than it is now. As far as the hook_search ops, I'm sorry but I think they are quite clear. I specifically added comments to node_search to explain each op when this would not be done normally (e.g. everyone is assumed to know that nodeapi('validate') is used to validate extra node fields): 'name': return the name of this search 'search': perform a search (new) 'form': add form items to the standard 'enter your keywords' search (new) 'post': process a search form and inject the parameters into the keyword string (needed because of the clean URLs) And only for index-using modules: 'reset': reset the indexing progress 'status': return status of the indexing progress (% completed) Steven Previous comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 00:46:49 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_2.patch (37.05 KB) Here's my promised search patch. It's not 100% commit ready yet, but it's time to sollicit some feedback and get this tested ;). Note that this patch requires a db update, which will wipe the search index. You will then need to call cron.php enough times for the site to be indexed completely again. This could take a while for large databases, but you can control the throttle and see the progress at admin/settings/search. *Features* * AND keyword matching by default ('all of the words'), instead of OR ('any of the words'). * OR support through keyword1 OR keyword2 OR ... * Phrase searching through "quoted strings". * Negative matching through -"minus prefix" -word. * Restrict search by taxonomy or node type(s) using taxonomy:1,2 and type:blog,page. The options are built-into the keyword string through a google like syntax, but there is an expandable "advanced settings" form below the search box which acts as a 'query builder': This example will result in the following search string (of course not a practical example): test type:forum,story category:1 "tinky winky" OR "dipsy" -"uh oh" "teletubby bye bye" On a different note, I removed the wildcard matching. An important reason is that there were significant performance problems with leading wildcards. Such queries were not be able to use any indices, and the resulting full-table scan took a long time. Even Google does not have intra-word wildcards, theirs can only be used as placeholders for entire words in phrases. Trailing wildcards on the other hand are usually used to accomodate grammatical variations on a word. But, wildcards are not really the best tool for this as this puts a burden on the user. If you need this feature, you should instead tie in an algorithm like the Porter Stemmer through the search_preprocess hook. That way you can reduce related words to a single common root (e.g. "walker" "walking" "walked" to "walk"). The search system will then index and search on the reduced words. You will even benefit from a reduced database size because there are less unique words. Because such algorithms are very language specific, I didn't build in any. But it should be trivial to make a Porter Stemmer module for Drupal search, which can be used on english sites. *Database* To implement the above searches, I added a 'search_dataset' table that is independent of the keyword index. Each dataset row contains the entire contents of the indexed item, but filtered, cleaned up and reduced to space-sparated tokens (words, numbers, dates, ...). This table is used to resolve the exact conditions, which means the keyword index is not as essential anymore. Because searches are AND by default, the OR method of search_index acts as an initial filter to eliminate the majority of items immediately. That subset is then further reduced through the search_dataset table. All of this means that the search_index table can now be indexed at a much higher minimum word lenght (e.g. 5), which means a reduced database size. Even with the new dataset table, the net database size shrinks slightly. I also implemented the searching as two selects into temporary tables. This allows me to avoid doing a costly counting query for the pager and a range-limited query for the actual results. I added support for temporary tables to database.(my|pg)sql. The db api itself takes a normal SELECT and a table name, and turns it into an appropriate platform specific temporary table query (CREATE TABLE ... AS, CREATE TABLE ... SELECT). I still need to do detailed benchmarking, but at least for the same queries as before, this patch should be faster. Of course, pre-patch, all searches were OR, not AND, so a direct comparison needs to take this into account (the pre-patch query "drupal theme development" is now "drupal OR theme OR development"). One feature request that I did not do is date based searching (before X/X/X, after X/X/X), mostly because we don't have a good date widget yet. I've been toying with making a simple in-page JS data picker, but it's not done yet and I think the patch is good enough already. Date restrictions can be added on later without any problems. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 01:27:29 +0000 : Steven Oh and in case this wasn't clear, the syntax of putting extra conditions into the search keywords ("type:blog") means that each search result page can be linked to directly. They all have clean URLs: search/node/type:blog+keyword for example. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 02:34:38 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch (37.05 KB) Sorry, the patch was malformed because wincvs wrapped those really long preg classes :P. Fixed patch attached. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:28:14 +0000 : stevryn This looks great, cant wait till its fully ready. I tried trip_search, but couldnt get it to work, and the regular search definately needed some better features! I would like to test it, but I have no idea how to apply a patch. Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it? Tx T ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:23:08 +0000 : webchick
Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it?
I can help you there, I think. Follow step 2 here if you don't already have a CVS version of Drupal up and running (you can't use this patch against 4.6.2, for example): http://www.planetsoc.com/node/164 Then, switch to your Drupal CVS root directory, for example: cd ~/drupal-cvs Use wget to retrieve a copy of the most recent patch (in this case, search_3.patch): wget http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch Execute the following command to apply the patch to your Drupal installation: patch -p0 -u < search_3.patch This will patch all the files with the updated search. Then go through the normal steps you would go through to get a new Drupal system up and running. Step 3 of the aforementioned link has some info on how to get a table prefix going if you want to keep this test version separate from your "normal" Drupal installation. My problem is I've done all of this, but am still getting strange errors (even on a "normal" unpatched version of the search), so I need to figure out if I have a problem on my end or what's going on. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:27:52 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org @Jeremy: Sorting by two fields does not seem to work. @Moshe: This code does not rely on the fact that wid is an auto_increment field in any way. Just some concerns did. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:29:28 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org Oops, that comment should have been for another issue. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:49:36 +0000 : matt_paz It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:50:11 +0000 : matt_paz Nice addition! It seems to be working great. It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 17:20:48 +0000 : stevryn Thanks webchick! I have it working now. Great work Steven, my live site is 4.6.1, I havent wanted to take the great leap and update, last time I did it was *not* pretty. I assume this will work with that version once its completed and submitted? Seriously the search functionality needs this sort of advanced features!! Tx for all your work! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:19:51 +0000 : Kobus Hi! Like the previous replier to this post, I can't apply patches myself, but simply because I don't do it frequently enough, and forgot how to do it, but I will catch up with this and test if I get a chance. In principle this is a great patch! Definate +1. I have another feature (not sure it belongs to this thread, so if not, I apologize) that I would love to see in the search module. That is to provide hooks so that you can create a customized search form, for example, I need the following three field sets in a search form for a property website: * Price range "Start price" -> "End price", using some MIN() and MAX() functions if the user selects the wrong way around. (dropdowns with certain ranges). * Area where the property is supposed to be located in (taxonomy category). * Features that the property MUST have, for example, your requirement would be "TWO BATHROOMS" or "FOUR BEDROOMS". (Search through checkboxes, radios and text fields that was defined in the "property.module" file and database structure. (This module is written by an amateur (me), that's why not contributed, but, should there be interest in it, I will contribute it.) These extra search forms would be way different for each different application, so I don't expect the search module to be able to actually do this, but at least to provide functionality that a coder can write such an extension in his module, in other words, the queries that will define the search, and the form that the user will see, should be definable in the module, and called instead of the default search form if required. Will this be possible at all? Regards, Kobus ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:42:59 +0000 : lgarfiel @Kobus: Actually you can do that now. See the Location module for an example of a fully custom search function. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:59:25 +0000 : Kobus Hi! Thanks lgarfiel. I have downloaded the module and will play around with it over the weekend. Regards, Kobus ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 10:11:35 +0000 : Bèr Kessels * my update failed. You had/have a problem in update.inc in the updates/callback array. I had-modified the database and it works fine now. * I am not happy with the 5 character default limit. It took me quite some time to find out why my words were not indexed. But that should not hold back this patch. More somthing to have acloser look for in teh future. I think of intelligent auto-blackslisting or so. * When I do an advanced search, teh resutlts are primted in the box: very good!. But my advaced form is emty. That is no good udability, imo. That form should represent what I was searching for. * I still do not like he way results are returned by default: "weblink - Bèr Kessels - 05/08/2005 - 14:20 - 0 comments" is far too much data. And i even have "do not show data for foo", set in the theme settings! can we please re-thing the *default* styles for search results? Without all the CSS bloat, and without all the details? Why not go for a default teaser vew? $node->title = $title //the name, subject or title of teh element $node->teaser = $content // teh nice highlighted data of search result body That way it wil be consisten tih teh rest of the site, save a *lot* of code and be better theamble too. * "your serach yielded no results" should be a set_message. Yes, we discussed that it should be in the place where ppl look for the results. but I tried it, and it is just as visible above the search as below! really. (see screenie) Overall, i think introducing a complex search is very nice. And i think this is a great step forward. But I much rather see, this being implemented in a MUCH easier API as well as MUCH easier hooks. preprocessing as a single hook. What /is/ preprocessing? form, index, etc in one hook? why put preprocess ii a single hook, but the others on one huge nodapi alike construction? What do they do, these nodeapi things? Why do I need them and when do I need them? I say this, because I spent hours with and hours trial-and-error methods to get some form of advanced flexinode search going. The current system is just to hard to grok for an average developer like me. I know these things are easy to say, but very hard to implement. But as long as we cannot allow searching for the obvious data people see (I am sure I read that that search guru has winamp as favorite, why can't i find his username when i search for winamp) I think we should be carefull with extending the search into advanced search. Can we not first think of a general solution, one that will fix ALL drupals search problems and then dive into advanced searching, that will make it even more complex? Steven: I still think you did a marvelous job!
Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/28159 Post a follow up: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/28159 Project: Drupal Version: cvs Component: search.module Category: feature requests Priority: normal Assigned to: Steven Reported by: Steven Updated by: Bèr Kessels Status: patch (code needs review) Thanks. So lets get teh focus back on the patch then. And move my proposal for a new search architecture to new thread; http://drupal.org/node/28275 I agree about the complexity of re-filling the search box. But still, it somehow gfeels odd that its not fileld anymore. Its a usability no-no to do that, though your rationale for not filling it makes more sense. Maybe we just need to rething the interface in general then? Does anyone s"ee any other options? Put adv.search in a tab advanced could be an option: but that might be a no-no because we hide it away then. Bèr Kessels Previous comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 00:46:49 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_2.patch (37.05 KB) Here's my promised search patch. It's not 100% commit ready yet, but it's time to sollicit some feedback and get this tested ;). Note that this patch requires a db update, which will wipe the search index. You will then need to call cron.php enough times for the site to be indexed completely again. This could take a while for large databases, but you can control the throttle and see the progress at admin/settings/search. *Features* * AND keyword matching by default ('all of the words'), instead of OR ('any of the words'). * OR support through keyword1 OR keyword2 OR ... * Phrase searching through "quoted strings". * Negative matching through -"minus prefix" -word. * Restrict search by taxonomy or node type(s) using taxonomy:1,2 and type:blog,page. The options are built-into the keyword string through a google like syntax, but there is an expandable "advanced settings" form below the search box which acts as a 'query builder': This example will result in the following search string (of course not a practical example): test type:forum,story category:1 "tinky winky" OR "dipsy" -"uh oh" "teletubby bye bye" On a different note, I removed the wildcard matching. An important reason is that there were significant performance problems with leading wildcards. Such queries were not be able to use any indices, and the resulting full-table scan took a long time. Even Google does not have intra-word wildcards, theirs can only be used as placeholders for entire words in phrases. Trailing wildcards on the other hand are usually used to accomodate grammatical variations on a word. But, wildcards are not really the best tool for this as this puts a burden on the user. If you need this feature, you should instead tie in an algorithm like the Porter Stemmer through the search_preprocess hook. That way you can reduce related words to a single common root (e.g. "walker" "walking" "walked" to "walk"). The search system will then index and search on the reduced words. You will even benefit from a reduced database size because there are less unique words. Because such algorithms are very language specific, I didn't build in any. But it should be trivial to make a Porter Stemmer module for Drupal search, which can be used on english sites. *Database* To implement the above searches, I added a 'search_dataset' table that is independent of the keyword index. Each dataset row contains the entire contents of the indexed item, but filtered, cleaned up and reduced to space-sparated tokens (words, numbers, dates, ...). This table is used to resolve the exact conditions, which means the keyword index is not as essential anymore. Because searches are AND by default, the OR method of search_index acts as an initial filter to eliminate the majority of items immediately. That subset is then further reduced through the search_dataset table. All of this means that the search_index table can now be indexed at a much higher minimum word lenght (e.g. 5), which means a reduced database size. Even with the new dataset table, the net database size shrinks slightly. I also implemented the searching as two selects into temporary tables. This allows me to avoid doing a costly counting query for the pager and a range-limited query for the actual results. I added support for temporary tables to database.(my|pg)sql. The db api itself takes a normal SELECT and a table name, and turns it into an appropriate platform specific temporary table query (CREATE TABLE ... AS, CREATE TABLE ... SELECT). I still need to do detailed benchmarking, but at least for the same queries as before, this patch should be faster. Of course, pre-patch, all searches were OR, not AND, so a direct comparison needs to take this into account (the pre-patch query "drupal theme development" is now "drupal OR theme OR development"). One feature request that I did not do is date based searching (before X/X/X, after X/X/X), mostly because we don't have a good date widget yet. I've been toying with making a simple in-page JS data picker, but it's not done yet and I think the patch is good enough already. Date restrictions can be added on later without any problems. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 01:27:29 +0000 : Steven Oh and in case this wasn't clear, the syntax of putting extra conditions into the search keywords ("type:blog") means that each search result page can be linked to directly. They all have clean URLs: search/node/type:blog+keyword for example. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 02:34:38 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch (37.05 KB) Sorry, the patch was malformed because wincvs wrapped those really long preg classes :P. Fixed patch attached. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:28:14 +0000 : stevryn This looks great, cant wait till its fully ready. I tried trip_search, but couldnt get it to work, and the regular search definately needed some better features! I would like to test it, but I have no idea how to apply a patch. Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it? Tx T ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:23:08 +0000 : webchick
Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it?
I can help you there, I think. Follow step 2 here if you don't already have a CVS version of Drupal up and running (you can't use this patch against 4.6.2, for example): http://www.planetsoc.com/node/164 Then, switch to your Drupal CVS root directory, for example: cd ~/drupal-cvs Use wget to retrieve a copy of the most recent patch (in this case, search_3.patch): wget http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch Execute the following command to apply the patch to your Drupal installation: patch -p0 -u < search_3.patch This will patch all the files with the updated search. Then go through the normal steps you would go through to get a new Drupal system up and running. Step 3 of the aforementioned link has some info on how to get a table prefix going if you want to keep this test version separate from your "normal" Drupal installation. My problem is I've done all of this, but am still getting strange errors (even on a "normal" unpatched version of the search), so I need to figure out if I have a problem on my end or what's going on. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:27:52 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org @Jeremy: Sorting by two fields does not seem to work. @Moshe: This code does not rely on the fact that wid is an auto_increment field in any way. Just some concerns did. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:29:28 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org Oops, that comment should have been for another issue. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:49:36 +0000 : matt_paz It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:50:11 +0000 : matt_paz Nice addition! It seems to be working great. It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 17:20:48 +0000 : stevryn Thanks webchick! I have it working now. Great work Steven, my live site is 4.6.1, I havent wanted to take the great leap and update, last time I did it was *not* pretty. I assume this will work with that version once its completed and submitted? Seriously the search functionality needs this sort of advanced features!! Tx for all your work! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:19:51 +0000 : Kobus Hi! Like the previous replier to this post, I can't apply patches myself, but simply because I don't do it frequently enough, and forgot how to do it, but I will catch up with this and test if I get a chance. In principle this is a great patch! Definate +1. I have another feature (not sure it belongs to this thread, so if not, I apologize) that I would love to see in the search module. That is to provide hooks so that you can create a customized search form, for example, I need the following three field sets in a search form for a property website: * Price range "Start price" -> "End price", using some MIN() and MAX() functions if the user selects the wrong way around. (dropdowns with certain ranges). * Area where the property is supposed to be located in (taxonomy category). * Features that the property MUST have, for example, your requirement would be "TWO BATHROOMS" or "FOUR BEDROOMS". (Search through checkboxes, radios and text fields that was defined in the "property.module" file and database structure. (This module is written by an amateur (me), that's why not contributed, but, should there be interest in it, I will contribute it.) These extra search forms would be way different for each different application, so I don't expect the search module to be able to actually do this, but at least to provide functionality that a coder can write such an extension in his module, in other words, the queries that will define the search, and the form that the user will see, should be definable in the module, and called instead of the default search form if required. Will this be possible at all? Regards, Kobus ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:42:59 +0000 : lgarfiel @Kobus: Actually you can do that now. See the Location module for an example of a fully custom search function. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:59:25 +0000 : Kobus Hi! Thanks lgarfiel. I have downloaded the module and will play around with it over the weekend. Regards, Kobus ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 10:11:35 +0000 : Bèr Kessels * my update failed. You had/have a problem in update.inc in the updates/callback array. I had-modified the database and it works fine now. * I am not happy with the 5 character default limit. It took me quite some time to find out why my words were not indexed. But that should not hold back this patch. More somthing to have acloser look for in teh future. I think of intelligent auto-blackslisting or so. * When I do an advanced search, teh resutlts are primted in the box: very good!. But my advaced form is emty. That is no good udability, imo. That form should represent what I was searching for. * I still do not like he way results are returned by default: "weblink - Bèr Kessels - 05/08/2005 - 14:20 - 0 comments" is far too much data. And i even have "do not show data for foo", set in the theme settings! can we please re-thing the *default* styles for search results? Without all the CSS bloat, and without all the details? Why not go for a default teaser vew? $node->title = $title //the name, subject or title of teh element $node->teaser = $content // teh nice highlighted data of search result body That way it wil be consisten tih teh rest of the site, save a *lot* of code and be better theamble too. * "your serach yielded no results" should be a set_message. Yes, we discussed that it should be in the place where ppl look for the results. but I tried it, and it is just as visible above the search as below! really. (see screenie) Overall, i think introducing a complex search is very nice. And i think this is a great step forward. But I much rather see, this being implemented in a MUCH easier API as well as MUCH easier hooks. preprocessing as a single hook. What /is/ preprocessing? form, index, etc in one hook? why put preprocess ii a single hook, but the others on one huge nodapi alike construction? What do they do, these nodeapi things? Why do I need them and when do I need them? I say this, because I spent hours with and hours trial-and-error methods to get some form of advanced flexinode search going. The current system is just to hard to grok for an average developer like me. I know these things are easy to say, but very hard to implement. But as long as we cannot allow searching for the obvious data people see (I am sure I read that that search guru has winamp as favorite, why can't i find his username when i search for winamp) I think we should be carefull with extending the search into advanced search. Can we not first think of a general solution, one that will fix ALL drupals search problems and then dive into advanced searching, that will make it even more complex? Steven: I still think you did a marvelous job! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 13:25:45 +0000 : Steven "* When I do an advanced search, teh resutlts are printed in the box: very good!. But my advaced form is emty. That is no good udability, imo. That form should represent what I was searching for. " I debated over how to implement this, and I went for the current method of not showing anything in the advanced form. The first reason is that parsing a query back into the advanced options is not generally possible. For example, you could have more than one phrase in your query, yet the query builder only accomodates one for simplicity. It is a tool, not a complete equivalent to the keyword syntax. Secondly, there is a conflict between what is in the keywords box and what is in the advanced form. For example, I might build an advanced query, and then start modifying the 'baked in' keyword version. At that point we need to decide which takes precedence, and arguments can be found for both sides. At first I tried to reconcile this by only respecting the advanced controls if you pressed "advanced search", but then there is ambiguity of which button to default to if the user submits the form by pressing enter. I also thought of making it so that the query builder always adds to the keywords (ignoring duplicates), but that means you can't loosen a query except by manually removing parts of the keywords box /and/ manually unchecking the options in the advanced form. After trying out the various options, I found that the usability of the current method is the clearest and results in the least amount of inconsistencies perceived as 'buggy behaviour'. "What /is/ preprocessing? why put preprocess ii a single hook, but the others on one huge nodapi alike construction? " Preprocessing is what it says: a transformation applied to text before it is inserted in and matched against the search index. You can use it to add in stemming algorithms, soundex as well as word-splitting for non-spaced languages like Chinese and Japanese. As for why to put it in a separate hook: for performance reasons. "I am not happy with the 5 character default limit. It took me quite some time to find out why my words were not indexed. But that should not hold back this patch. More somthing to have acloser look for in teh future. I think of intelligent auto-blackslisting or so. " About the limit: it only has any effect if none of the words in your search query is 5 letters or longer. As soon as one word in the query is 5 letters, all results can be found. Judging from drupal.org searches, this was a correct trade-off to make. If you introduce a stemming algorithm through the preprocessor, you can probably afford to set the size limit smaller. But until then, imo 5 is a good default. About intelligent blacklisting: this is not really possible. The goal of blacklisting is to keep the index size down. But to find out which words to blacklist, you need to include them in some sort of index. Chicken and egg. "Can we not first think of a general solution, one that will fix ALL drupals search problems and then dive into advanced searching, that will make it even more complex? " I await your proposals. But until people start getting involved in the architecture rather than just bombarding me with feature-requests and saying that 'search sucks', I can only do things my way. In fact, the biggest complexity hurdle right now is simply that search is optional. This means that all search operations should go through search.module. Modules with 100% custom searches on the other hand can simply put a tab on "search/module" and do everything their way. But that means that that tab will be there even if search.module is disabled and that these modules cannot take advantage of the various utility functions provided by search.module. For example, searching profile fields for user search is perfectly possible even without this patch, though it would require that the user search be moved into profile.module. A nodeapi-like system where profile.module can add to user.module's search would only result in huge joins and queries being added to other queries en-masse. The code would be even more complex than it is now. As far as the hook_search ops, I'm sorry but I think they are quite clear. I specifically added comments to node_search to explain each op when this would not be done normally (e.g. everyone is assumed to know that nodeapi('validate') is used to validate extra node fields): 'name': return the name of this search 'search': perform a search (new) 'form': add form items to the standard 'enter your keywords' search (new) 'post': process a search form and inject the parameters into the keyword string (needed because of the clean URLs) And only for index-using modules: 'reset': reset the indexing progress 'status': return status of the indexing progress (% completed)
Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/28159 Post a follow up: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/28159 Project: Drupal Version: cvs Component: search.module Category: feature requests Priority: normal Assigned to: Steven Reported by: Steven Updated by: matt_paz Status: patch (code needs review) I have the code running at http://connect.educause.edu "100% of the site has been indexed." Minimum word length to index: 4 Nonetheless, I'm getting mixed results. If I search for 'Hawkins' I get no results ... even though I know (I think) it should be indexing the word hawkins from the body of this content ... http://connect.educause.edu/blog/mpasiewicz/317 Any ideas? matt_paz Previous comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 00:46:49 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_2.patch (37.05 KB) Here's my promised search patch. It's not 100% commit ready yet, but it's time to sollicit some feedback and get this tested ;). Note that this patch requires a db update, which will wipe the search index. You will then need to call cron.php enough times for the site to be indexed completely again. This could take a while for large databases, but you can control the throttle and see the progress at admin/settings/search. *Features* * AND keyword matching by default ('all of the words'), instead of OR ('any of the words'). * OR support through keyword1 OR keyword2 OR ... * Phrase searching through "quoted strings". * Negative matching through -"minus prefix" -word. * Restrict search by taxonomy or node type(s) using taxonomy:1,2 and type:blog,page. The options are built-into the keyword string through a google like syntax, but there is an expandable "advanced settings" form below the search box which acts as a 'query builder': This example will result in the following search string (of course not a practical example): test type:forum,story category:1 "tinky winky" OR "dipsy" -"uh oh" "teletubby bye bye" On a different note, I removed the wildcard matching. An important reason is that there were significant performance problems with leading wildcards. Such queries were not be able to use any indices, and the resulting full-table scan took a long time. Even Google does not have intra-word wildcards, theirs can only be used as placeholders for entire words in phrases. Trailing wildcards on the other hand are usually used to accomodate grammatical variations on a word. But, wildcards are not really the best tool for this as this puts a burden on the user. If you need this feature, you should instead tie in an algorithm like the Porter Stemmer through the search_preprocess hook. That way you can reduce related words to a single common root (e.g. "walker" "walking" "walked" to "walk"). The search system will then index and search on the reduced words. You will even benefit from a reduced database size because there are less unique words. Because such algorithms are very language specific, I didn't build in any. But it should be trivial to make a Porter Stemmer module for Drupal search, which can be used on english sites. *Database* To implement the above searches, I added a 'search_dataset' table that is independent of the keyword index. Each dataset row contains the entire contents of the indexed item, but filtered, cleaned up and reduced to space-sparated tokens (words, numbers, dates, ...). This table is used to resolve the exact conditions, which means the keyword index is not as essential anymore. Because searches are AND by default, the OR method of search_index acts as an initial filter to eliminate the majority of items immediately. That subset is then further reduced through the search_dataset table. All of this means that the search_index table can now be indexed at a much higher minimum word lenght (e.g. 5), which means a reduced database size. Even with the new dataset table, the net database size shrinks slightly. I also implemented the searching as two selects into temporary tables. This allows me to avoid doing a costly counting query for the pager and a range-limited query for the actual results. I added support for temporary tables to database.(my|pg)sql. The db api itself takes a normal SELECT and a table name, and turns it into an appropriate platform specific temporary table query (CREATE TABLE ... AS, CREATE TABLE ... SELECT). I still need to do detailed benchmarking, but at least for the same queries as before, this patch should be faster. Of course, pre-patch, all searches were OR, not AND, so a direct comparison needs to take this into account (the pre-patch query "drupal theme development" is now "drupal OR theme OR development"). One feature request that I did not do is date based searching (before X/X/X, after X/X/X), mostly because we don't have a good date widget yet. I've been toying with making a simple in-page JS data picker, but it's not done yet and I think the patch is good enough already. Date restrictions can be added on later without any problems. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 01:27:29 +0000 : Steven Oh and in case this wasn't clear, the syntax of putting extra conditions into the search keywords ("type:blog") means that each search result page can be linked to directly. They all have clean URLs: search/node/type:blog+keyword for example. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 02:34:38 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch (37.05 KB) Sorry, the patch was malformed because wincvs wrapped those really long preg classes :P. Fixed patch attached. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:28:14 +0000 : stevryn This looks great, cant wait till its fully ready. I tried trip_search, but couldnt get it to work, and the regular search definately needed some better features! I would like to test it, but I have no idea how to apply a patch. Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it? Tx T ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:23:08 +0000 : webchick
Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it?
I can help you there, I think. Follow step 2 here if you don't already have a CVS version of Drupal up and running (you can't use this patch against 4.6.2, for example): http://www.planetsoc.com/node/164 Then, switch to your Drupal CVS root directory, for example: cd ~/drupal-cvs Use wget to retrieve a copy of the most recent patch (in this case, search_3.patch): wget http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch Execute the following command to apply the patch to your Drupal installation: patch -p0 -u < search_3.patch This will patch all the files with the updated search. Then go through the normal steps you would go through to get a new Drupal system up and running. Step 3 of the aforementioned link has some info on how to get a table prefix going if you want to keep this test version separate from your "normal" Drupal installation. My problem is I've done all of this, but am still getting strange errors (even on a "normal" unpatched version of the search), so I need to figure out if I have a problem on my end or what's going on. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:27:52 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org @Jeremy: Sorting by two fields does not seem to work. @Moshe: This code does not rely on the fact that wid is an auto_increment field in any way. Just some concerns did. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:29:28 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org Oops, that comment should have been for another issue. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:49:36 +0000 : matt_paz It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:50:11 +0000 : matt_paz Nice addition! It seems to be working great. It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 17:20:48 +0000 : stevryn Thanks webchick! I have it working now. Great work Steven, my live site is 4.6.1, I havent wanted to take the great leap and update, last time I did it was *not* pretty. I assume this will work with that version once its completed and submitted? Seriously the search functionality needs this sort of advanced features!! Tx for all your work! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:19:51 +0000 : Kobus Hi! Like the previous replier to this post, I can't apply patches myself, but simply because I don't do it frequently enough, and forgot how to do it, but I will catch up with this and test if I get a chance. In principle this is a great patch! Definate +1. I have another feature (not sure it belongs to this thread, so if not, I apologize) that I would love to see in the search module. That is to provide hooks so that you can create a customized search form, for example, I need the following three field sets in a search form for a property website: * Price range "Start price" -> "End price", using some MIN() and MAX() functions if the user selects the wrong way around. (dropdowns with certain ranges). * Area where the property is supposed to be located in (taxonomy category). * Features that the property MUST have, for example, your requirement would be "TWO BATHROOMS" or "FOUR BEDROOMS". (Search through checkboxes, radios and text fields that was defined in the "property.module" file and database structure. (This module is written by an amateur (me), that's why not contributed, but, should there be interest in it, I will contribute it.) These extra search forms would be way different for each different application, so I don't expect the search module to be able to actually do this, but at least to provide functionality that a coder can write such an extension in his module, in other words, the queries that will define the search, and the form that the user will see, should be definable in the module, and called instead of the default search form if required. Will this be possible at all? Regards, Kobus ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:42:59 +0000 : lgarfiel @Kobus: Actually you can do that now. See the Location module for an example of a fully custom search function. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:59:25 +0000 : Kobus Hi! Thanks lgarfiel. I have downloaded the module and will play around with it over the weekend. Regards, Kobus ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 10:11:35 +0000 : Bèr Kessels * my update failed. You had/have a problem in update.inc in the updates/callback array. I had-modified the database and it works fine now. * I am not happy with the 5 character default limit. It took me quite some time to find out why my words were not indexed. But that should not hold back this patch. More somthing to have acloser look for in teh future. I think of intelligent auto-blackslisting or so. * When I do an advanced search, teh resutlts are primted in the box: very good!. But my advaced form is emty. That is no good udability, imo. That form should represent what I was searching for. * I still do not like he way results are returned by default: "weblink - Bèr Kessels - 05/08/2005 - 14:20 - 0 comments" is far too much data. And i even have "do not show data for foo", set in the theme settings! can we please re-thing the *default* styles for search results? Without all the CSS bloat, and without all the details? Why not go for a default teaser vew? $node->title = $title //the name, subject or title of teh element $node->teaser = $content // teh nice highlighted data of search result body That way it wil be consisten tih teh rest of the site, save a *lot* of code and be better theamble too. * "your serach yielded no results" should be a set_message. Yes, we discussed that it should be in the place where ppl look for the results. but I tried it, and it is just as visible above the search as below! really. (see screenie) Overall, i think introducing a complex search is very nice. And i think this is a great step forward. But I much rather see, this being implemented in a MUCH easier API as well as MUCH easier hooks. preprocessing as a single hook. What /is/ preprocessing? form, index, etc in one hook? why put preprocess ii a single hook, but the others on one huge nodapi alike construction? What do they do, these nodeapi things? Why do I need them and when do I need them? I say this, because I spent hours with and hours trial-and-error methods to get some form of advanced flexinode search going. The current system is just to hard to grok for an average developer like me. I know these things are easy to say, but very hard to implement. But as long as we cannot allow searching for the obvious data people see (I am sure I read that that search guru has winamp as favorite, why can't i find his username when i search for winamp) I think we should be carefull with extending the search into advanced search. Can we not first think of a general solution, one that will fix ALL drupals search problems and then dive into advanced searching, that will make it even more complex? Steven: I still think you did a marvelous job! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 13:25:45 +0000 : Steven "* When I do an advanced search, teh resutlts are printed in the box: very good!. But my advaced form is emty. That is no good udability, imo. That form should represent what I was searching for. " I debated over how to implement this, and I went for the current method of not showing anything in the advanced form. The first reason is that parsing a query back into the advanced options is not generally possible. For example, you could have more than one phrase in your query, yet the query builder only accomodates one for simplicity. It is a tool, not a complete equivalent to the keyword syntax. Secondly, there is a conflict between what is in the keywords box and what is in the advanced form. For example, I might build an advanced query, and then start modifying the 'baked in' keyword version. At that point we need to decide which takes precedence, and arguments can be found for both sides. At first I tried to reconcile this by only respecting the advanced controls if you pressed "advanced search", but then there is ambiguity of which button to default to if the user submits the form by pressing enter. I also thought of making it so that the query builder always adds to the keywords (ignoring duplicates), but that means you can't loosen a query except by manually removing parts of the keywords box /and/ manually unchecking the options in the advanced form. After trying out the various options, I found that the usability of the current method is the clearest and results in the least amount of inconsistencies perceived as 'buggy behaviour'. "What /is/ preprocessing? why put preprocess ii a single hook, but the others on one huge nodapi alike construction? " Preprocessing is what it says: a transformation applied to text before it is inserted in and matched against the search index. You can use it to add in stemming algorithms, soundex as well as word-splitting for non-spaced languages like Chinese and Japanese. As for why to put it in a separate hook: for performance reasons. "I am not happy with the 5 character default limit. It took me quite some time to find out why my words were not indexed. But that should not hold back this patch. More somthing to have acloser look for in teh future. I think of intelligent auto-blackslisting or so. " About the limit: it only has any effect if none of the words in your search query is 5 letters or longer. As soon as one word in the query is 5 letters, all results can be found. Judging from drupal.org searches, this was a correct trade-off to make. If you introduce a stemming algorithm through the preprocessor, you can probably afford to set the size limit smaller. But until then, imo 5 is a good default. About intelligent blacklisting: this is not really possible. The goal of blacklisting is to keep the index size down. But to find out which words to blacklist, you need to include them in some sort of index. Chicken and egg. "Can we not first think of a general solution, one that will fix ALL drupals search problems and then dive into advanced searching, that will make it even more complex? " I await your proposals. But until people start getting involved in the architecture rather than just bombarding me with feature-requests and saying that 'search sucks', I can only do things my way. In fact, the biggest complexity hurdle right now is simply that search is optional. This means that all search operations should go through search.module. Modules with 100% custom searches on the other hand can simply put a tab on "search/module" and do everything their way. But that means that that tab will be there even if search.module is disabled and that these modules cannot take advantage of the various utility functions provided by search.module. For example, searching profile fields for user search is perfectly possible even without this patch, though it would require that the user search be moved into profile.module. A nodeapi-like system where profile.module can add to user.module's search would only result in huge joins and queries being added to other queries en-masse. The code would be even more complex than it is now. As far as the hook_search ops, I'm sorry but I think they are quite clear. I specifically added comments to node_search to explain each op when this would not be done normally (e.g. everyone is assumed to know that nodeapi('validate') is used to validate extra node fields): 'name': return the name of this search 'search': perform a search (new) 'form': add form items to the standard 'enter your keywords' search (new) 'post': process a search form and inject the parameters into the keyword string (needed because of the clean URLs) And only for index-using modules: 'reset': reset the indexing progress 'status': return status of the indexing progress (% completed) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 15:19:57 +0000 : Bèr Kessels Thanks. So lets get teh focus back on the patch then. And move my proposal for a new search architecture to new thread; http://drupal.org/node/28275 I agree about the complexity of re-filling the search box. But still, it somehow gfeels odd that its not fileld anymore. Its a usability no-no to do that, though your rationale for not filling it makes more sense. Maybe we just need to rething the interface in general then? Does anyone s"ee any other options? Put adv.search in a tab advanced could be an option: but that might be a no-no because we hide it away then.
Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/28159 Post a follow up: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/28159 Project: Drupal Version: cvs Component: search.module Category: feature requests Priority: normal Assigned to: Steven Reported by: Steven Updated by: cyberchucktx Status: patch (code needs review) Looks greeat! I may give it a shot this weekend ... and since I'm using Civicspace i'll be really daring and try it out within that system as well. I haven't read *all* the comments yet .. but would be it possible to do some admin work to setup different search types similar to the "Input Formats" section? By this I mean that different search types could "lock down" various parts of the interface to restrict the search to specific categories ... Charlie cyberchucktx Previous comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 00:46:49 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_2.patch (37.05 KB) Here's my promised search patch. It's not 100% commit ready yet, but it's time to sollicit some feedback and get this tested ;). Note that this patch requires a db update, which will wipe the search index. You will then need to call cron.php enough times for the site to be indexed completely again. This could take a while for large databases, but you can control the throttle and see the progress at admin/settings/search. *Features* * AND keyword matching by default ('all of the words'), instead of OR ('any of the words'). * OR support through keyword1 OR keyword2 OR ... * Phrase searching through "quoted strings". * Negative matching through -"minus prefix" -word. * Restrict search by taxonomy or node type(s) using taxonomy:1,2 and type:blog,page. The options are built-into the keyword string through a google like syntax, but there is an expandable "advanced settings" form below the search box which acts as a 'query builder': This example will result in the following search string (of course not a practical example): test type:forum,story category:1 "tinky winky" OR "dipsy" -"uh oh" "teletubby bye bye" On a different note, I removed the wildcard matching. An important reason is that there were significant performance problems with leading wildcards. Such queries were not be able to use any indices, and the resulting full-table scan took a long time. Even Google does not have intra-word wildcards, theirs can only be used as placeholders for entire words in phrases. Trailing wildcards on the other hand are usually used to accomodate grammatical variations on a word. But, wildcards are not really the best tool for this as this puts a burden on the user. If you need this feature, you should instead tie in an algorithm like the Porter Stemmer through the search_preprocess hook. That way you can reduce related words to a single common root (e.g. "walker" "walking" "walked" to "walk"). The search system will then index and search on the reduced words. You will even benefit from a reduced database size because there are less unique words. Because such algorithms are very language specific, I didn't build in any. But it should be trivial to make a Porter Stemmer module for Drupal search, which can be used on english sites. *Database* To implement the above searches, I added a 'search_dataset' table that is independent of the keyword index. Each dataset row contains the entire contents of the indexed item, but filtered, cleaned up and reduced to space-sparated tokens (words, numbers, dates, ...). This table is used to resolve the exact conditions, which means the keyword index is not as essential anymore. Because searches are AND by default, the OR method of search_index acts as an initial filter to eliminate the majority of items immediately. That subset is then further reduced through the search_dataset table. All of this means that the search_index table can now be indexed at a much higher minimum word lenght (e.g. 5), which means a reduced database size. Even with the new dataset table, the net database size shrinks slightly. I also implemented the searching as two selects into temporary tables. This allows me to avoid doing a costly counting query for the pager and a range-limited query for the actual results. I added support for temporary tables to database.(my|pg)sql. The db api itself takes a normal SELECT and a table name, and turns it into an appropriate platform specific temporary table query (CREATE TABLE ... AS, CREATE TABLE ... SELECT). I still need to do detailed benchmarking, but at least for the same queries as before, this patch should be faster. Of course, pre-patch, all searches were OR, not AND, so a direct comparison needs to take this into account (the pre-patch query "drupal theme development" is now "drupal OR theme OR development"). One feature request that I did not do is date based searching (before X/X/X, after X/X/X), mostly because we don't have a good date widget yet. I've been toying with making a simple in-page JS data picker, but it's not done yet and I think the patch is good enough already. Date restrictions can be added on later without any problems. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 01:27:29 +0000 : Steven Oh and in case this wasn't clear, the syntax of putting extra conditions into the search keywords ("type:blog") means that each search result page can be linked to directly. They all have clean URLs: search/node/type:blog+keyword for example. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 02:34:38 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch (37.05 KB) Sorry, the patch was malformed because wincvs wrapped those really long preg classes :P. Fixed patch attached. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:28:14 +0000 : stevryn This looks great, cant wait till its fully ready. I tried trip_search, but couldnt get it to work, and the regular search definately needed some better features! I would like to test it, but I have no idea how to apply a patch. Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it? Tx T ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:23:08 +0000 : webchick
Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it?
I can help you there, I think. Follow step 2 here if you don't already have a CVS version of Drupal up and running (you can't use this patch against 4.6.2, for example): http://www.planetsoc.com/node/164 Then, switch to your Drupal CVS root directory, for example: cd ~/drupal-cvs Use wget to retrieve a copy of the most recent patch (in this case, search_3.patch): wget http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch Execute the following command to apply the patch to your Drupal installation: patch -p0 -u < search_3.patch This will patch all the files with the updated search. Then go through the normal steps you would go through to get a new Drupal system up and running. Step 3 of the aforementioned link has some info on how to get a table prefix going if you want to keep this test version separate from your "normal" Drupal installation. My problem is I've done all of this, but am still getting strange errors (even on a "normal" unpatched version of the search), so I need to figure out if I have a problem on my end or what's going on. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:27:52 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org @Jeremy: Sorting by two fields does not seem to work. @Moshe: This code does not rely on the fact that wid is an auto_increment field in any way. Just some concerns did. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:29:28 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org Oops, that comment should have been for another issue. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:49:36 +0000 : matt_paz It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:50:11 +0000 : matt_paz Nice addition! It seems to be working great. It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 17:20:48 +0000 : stevryn Thanks webchick! I have it working now. Great work Steven, my live site is 4.6.1, I havent wanted to take the great leap and update, last time I did it was *not* pretty. I assume this will work with that version once its completed and submitted? Seriously the search functionality needs this sort of advanced features!! Tx for all your work! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:19:51 +0000 : Kobus Hi! Like the previous replier to this post, I can't apply patches myself, but simply because I don't do it frequently enough, and forgot how to do it, but I will catch up with this and test if I get a chance. In principle this is a great patch! Definate +1. I have another feature (not sure it belongs to this thread, so if not, I apologize) that I would love to see in the search module. That is to provide hooks so that you can create a customized search form, for example, I need the following three field sets in a search form for a property website: * Price range "Start price" -> "End price", using some MIN() and MAX() functions if the user selects the wrong way around. (dropdowns with certain ranges). * Area where the property is supposed to be located in (taxonomy category). * Features that the property MUST have, for example, your requirement would be "TWO BATHROOMS" or "FOUR BEDROOMS". (Search through checkboxes, radios and text fields that was defined in the "property.module" file and database structure. (This module is written by an amateur (me), that's why not contributed, but, should there be interest in it, I will contribute it.) These extra search forms would be way different for each different application, so I don't expect the search module to be able to actually do this, but at least to provide functionality that a coder can write such an extension in his module, in other words, the queries that will define the search, and the form that the user will see, should be definable in the module, and called instead of the default search form if required. Will this be possible at all? Regards, Kobus ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:42:59 +0000 : lgarfiel @Kobus: Actually you can do that now. See the Location module for an example of a fully custom search function. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:59:25 +0000 : Kobus Hi! Thanks lgarfiel. I have downloaded the module and will play around with it over the weekend. Regards, Kobus ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 10:11:35 +0000 : Bèr Kessels * my update failed. You had/have a problem in update.inc in the updates/callback array. I had-modified the database and it works fine now. * I am not happy with the 5 character default limit. It took me quite some time to find out why my words were not indexed. But that should not hold back this patch. More somthing to have acloser look for in teh future. I think of intelligent auto-blackslisting or so. * When I do an advanced search, teh resutlts are primted in the box: very good!. But my advaced form is emty. That is no good udability, imo. That form should represent what I was searching for. * I still do not like he way results are returned by default: "weblink - Bèr Kessels - 05/08/2005 - 14:20 - 0 comments" is far too much data. And i even have "do not show data for foo", set in the theme settings! can we please re-thing the *default* styles for search results? Without all the CSS bloat, and without all the details? Why not go for a default teaser vew? $node->title = $title //the name, subject or title of teh element $node->teaser = $content // teh nice highlighted data of search result body That way it wil be consisten tih teh rest of the site, save a *lot* of code and be better theamble too. * "your serach yielded no results" should be a set_message. Yes, we discussed that it should be in the place where ppl look for the results. but I tried it, and it is just as visible above the search as below! really. (see screenie) Overall, i think introducing a complex search is very nice. And i think this is a great step forward. But I much rather see, this being implemented in a MUCH easier API as well as MUCH easier hooks. preprocessing as a single hook. What /is/ preprocessing? form, index, etc in one hook? why put preprocess ii a single hook, but the others on one huge nodapi alike construction? What do they do, these nodeapi things? Why do I need them and when do I need them? I say this, because I spent hours with and hours trial-and-error methods to get some form of advanced flexinode search going. The current system is just to hard to grok for an average developer like me. I know these things are easy to say, but very hard to implement. But as long as we cannot allow searching for the obvious data people see (I am sure I read that that search guru has winamp as favorite, why can't i find his username when i search for winamp) I think we should be carefull with extending the search into advanced search. Can we not first think of a general solution, one that will fix ALL drupals search problems and then dive into advanced searching, that will make it even more complex? Steven: I still think you did a marvelous job! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 13:25:45 +0000 : Steven "* When I do an advanced search, teh resutlts are printed in the box: very good!. But my advaced form is emty. That is no good udability, imo. That form should represent what I was searching for. " I debated over how to implement this, and I went for the current method of not showing anything in the advanced form. The first reason is that parsing a query back into the advanced options is not generally possible. For example, you could have more than one phrase in your query, yet the query builder only accomodates one for simplicity. It is a tool, not a complete equivalent to the keyword syntax. Secondly, there is a conflict between what is in the keywords box and what is in the advanced form. For example, I might build an advanced query, and then start modifying the 'baked in' keyword version. At that point we need to decide which takes precedence, and arguments can be found for both sides. At first I tried to reconcile this by only respecting the advanced controls if you pressed "advanced search", but then there is ambiguity of which button to default to if the user submits the form by pressing enter. I also thought of making it so that the query builder always adds to the keywords (ignoring duplicates), but that means you can't loosen a query except by manually removing parts of the keywords box /and/ manually unchecking the options in the advanced form. After trying out the various options, I found that the usability of the current method is the clearest and results in the least amount of inconsistencies perceived as 'buggy behaviour'. "What /is/ preprocessing? why put preprocess ii a single hook, but the others on one huge nodapi alike construction? " Preprocessing is what it says: a transformation applied to text before it is inserted in and matched against the search index. You can use it to add in stemming algorithms, soundex as well as word-splitting for non-spaced languages like Chinese and Japanese. As for why to put it in a separate hook: for performance reasons. "I am not happy with the 5 character default limit. It took me quite some time to find out why my words were not indexed. But that should not hold back this patch. More somthing to have acloser look for in teh future. I think of intelligent auto-blackslisting or so. " About the limit: it only has any effect if none of the words in your search query is 5 letters or longer. As soon as one word in the query is 5 letters, all results can be found. Judging from drupal.org searches, this was a correct trade-off to make. If you introduce a stemming algorithm through the preprocessor, you can probably afford to set the size limit smaller. But until then, imo 5 is a good default. About intelligent blacklisting: this is not really possible. The goal of blacklisting is to keep the index size down. But to find out which words to blacklist, you need to include them in some sort of index. Chicken and egg. "Can we not first think of a general solution, one that will fix ALL drupals search problems and then dive into advanced searching, that will make it even more complex? " I await your proposals. But until people start getting involved in the architecture rather than just bombarding me with feature-requests and saying that 'search sucks', I can only do things my way. In fact, the biggest complexity hurdle right now is simply that search is optional. This means that all search operations should go through search.module. Modules with 100% custom searches on the other hand can simply put a tab on "search/module" and do everything their way. But that means that that tab will be there even if search.module is disabled and that these modules cannot take advantage of the various utility functions provided by search.module. For example, searching profile fields for user search is perfectly possible even without this patch, though it would require that the user search be moved into profile.module. A nodeapi-like system where profile.module can add to user.module's search would only result in huge joins and queries being added to other queries en-masse. The code would be even more complex than it is now. As far as the hook_search ops, I'm sorry but I think they are quite clear. I specifically added comments to node_search to explain each op when this would not be done normally (e.g. everyone is assumed to know that nodeapi('validate') is used to validate extra node fields): 'name': return the name of this search 'search': perform a search (new) 'form': add form items to the standard 'enter your keywords' search (new) 'post': process a search form and inject the parameters into the keyword string (needed because of the clean URLs) And only for index-using modules: 'reset': reset the indexing progress 'status': return status of the indexing progress (% completed) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 15:19:57 +0000 : Bèr Kessels Thanks. So lets get teh focus back on the patch then. And move my proposal for a new search architecture to new thread; http://drupal.org/node/28275 I agree about the complexity of re-filling the search box. But still, it somehow gfeels odd that its not fileld anymore. Its a usability no-no to do that, though your rationale for not filling it makes more sense. Maybe we just need to rething the interface in general then? Does anyone s"ee any other options? Put adv.search in a tab advanced could be an option: but that might be a no-no because we hide it away then. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 21:57:44 +0000 : matt_paz I have the code running at http://connect.educause.edu "100% of the site has been indexed." Minimum word length to index: 4 Nonetheless, I'm getting mixed results. If I search for 'Hawkins' I get no results ... even though I know (I think) it should be indexing the word hawkins from the body of this content ... http://connect.educause.edu/blog/mpasiewicz/317 Any ideas?
Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/28159 Post a follow up: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/28159 Project: Drupal Version: cvs Component: search.module Category: feature requests Priority: normal Assigned to: Steven Reported by: Steven Updated by: matt_paz Status: patch (code needs review) sorry, the link for the example where the text does exist should have been ... http://connect.educause.edu/blog/mpasiewicz/podcast_coverage_of_brian_hawkin... matt_paz Previous comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 00:46:49 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_2.patch (37.05 KB) Here's my promised search patch. It's not 100% commit ready yet, but it's time to sollicit some feedback and get this tested ;). Note that this patch requires a db update, which will wipe the search index. You will then need to call cron.php enough times for the site to be indexed completely again. This could take a while for large databases, but you can control the throttle and see the progress at admin/settings/search. *Features* * AND keyword matching by default ('all of the words'), instead of OR ('any of the words'). * OR support through keyword1 OR keyword2 OR ... * Phrase searching through "quoted strings". * Negative matching through -"minus prefix" -word. * Restrict search by taxonomy or node type(s) using taxonomy:1,2 and type:blog,page. The options are built-into the keyword string through a google like syntax, but there is an expandable "advanced settings" form below the search box which acts as a 'query builder': This example will result in the following search string (of course not a practical example): test type:forum,story category:1 "tinky winky" OR "dipsy" -"uh oh" "teletubby bye bye" On a different note, I removed the wildcard matching. An important reason is that there were significant performance problems with leading wildcards. Such queries were not be able to use any indices, and the resulting full-table scan took a long time. Even Google does not have intra-word wildcards, theirs can only be used as placeholders for entire words in phrases. Trailing wildcards on the other hand are usually used to accomodate grammatical variations on a word. But, wildcards are not really the best tool for this as this puts a burden on the user. If you need this feature, you should instead tie in an algorithm like the Porter Stemmer through the search_preprocess hook. That way you can reduce related words to a single common root (e.g. "walker" "walking" "walked" to "walk"). The search system will then index and search on the reduced words. You will even benefit from a reduced database size because there are less unique words. Because such algorithms are very language specific, I didn't build in any. But it should be trivial to make a Porter Stemmer module for Drupal search, which can be used on english sites. *Database* To implement the above searches, I added a 'search_dataset' table that is independent of the keyword index. Each dataset row contains the entire contents of the indexed item, but filtered, cleaned up and reduced to space-sparated tokens (words, numbers, dates, ...). This table is used to resolve the exact conditions, which means the keyword index is not as essential anymore. Because searches are AND by default, the OR method of search_index acts as an initial filter to eliminate the majority of items immediately. That subset is then further reduced through the search_dataset table. All of this means that the search_index table can now be indexed at a much higher minimum word lenght (e.g. 5), which means a reduced database size. Even with the new dataset table, the net database size shrinks slightly. I also implemented the searching as two selects into temporary tables. This allows me to avoid doing a costly counting query for the pager and a range-limited query for the actual results. I added support for temporary tables to database.(my|pg)sql. The db api itself takes a normal SELECT and a table name, and turns it into an appropriate platform specific temporary table query (CREATE TABLE ... AS, CREATE TABLE ... SELECT). I still need to do detailed benchmarking, but at least for the same queries as before, this patch should be faster. Of course, pre-patch, all searches were OR, not AND, so a direct comparison needs to take this into account (the pre-patch query "drupal theme development" is now "drupal OR theme OR development"). One feature request that I did not do is date based searching (before X/X/X, after X/X/X), mostly because we don't have a good date widget yet. I've been toying with making a simple in-page JS data picker, but it's not done yet and I think the patch is good enough already. Date restrictions can be added on later without any problems. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 01:27:29 +0000 : Steven Oh and in case this wasn't clear, the syntax of putting extra conditions into the search keywords ("type:blog") means that each search result page can be linked to directly. They all have clean URLs: search/node/type:blog+keyword for example. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 02:34:38 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch (37.05 KB) Sorry, the patch was malformed because wincvs wrapped those really long preg classes :P. Fixed patch attached. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:28:14 +0000 : stevryn This looks great, cant wait till its fully ready. I tried trip_search, but couldnt get it to work, and the regular search definately needed some better features! I would like to test it, but I have no idea how to apply a patch. Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it? Tx T ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:23:08 +0000 : webchick
Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it?
I can help you there, I think. Follow step 2 here if you don't already have a CVS version of Drupal up and running (you can't use this patch against 4.6.2, for example): http://www.planetsoc.com/node/164 Then, switch to your Drupal CVS root directory, for example: cd ~/drupal-cvs Use wget to retrieve a copy of the most recent patch (in this case, search_3.patch): wget http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch Execute the following command to apply the patch to your Drupal installation: patch -p0 -u < search_3.patch This will patch all the files with the updated search. Then go through the normal steps you would go through to get a new Drupal system up and running. Step 3 of the aforementioned link has some info on how to get a table prefix going if you want to keep this test version separate from your "normal" Drupal installation. My problem is I've done all of this, but am still getting strange errors (even on a "normal" unpatched version of the search), so I need to figure out if I have a problem on my end or what's going on. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:27:52 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org @Jeremy: Sorting by two fields does not seem to work. @Moshe: This code does not rely on the fact that wid is an auto_increment field in any way. Just some concerns did. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:29:28 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org Oops, that comment should have been for another issue. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:49:36 +0000 : matt_paz It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:50:11 +0000 : matt_paz Nice addition! It seems to be working great. It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 17:20:48 +0000 : stevryn Thanks webchick! I have it working now. Great work Steven, my live site is 4.6.1, I havent wanted to take the great leap and update, last time I did it was *not* pretty. I assume this will work with that version once its completed and submitted? Seriously the search functionality needs this sort of advanced features!! Tx for all your work! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:19:51 +0000 : Kobus Hi! Like the previous replier to this post, I can't apply patches myself, but simply because I don't do it frequently enough, and forgot how to do it, but I will catch up with this and test if I get a chance. In principle this is a great patch! Definate +1. I have another feature (not sure it belongs to this thread, so if not, I apologize) that I would love to see in the search module. That is to provide hooks so that you can create a customized search form, for example, I need the following three field sets in a search form for a property website: * Price range "Start price" -> "End price", using some MIN() and MAX() functions if the user selects the wrong way around. (dropdowns with certain ranges). * Area where the property is supposed to be located in (taxonomy category). * Features that the property MUST have, for example, your requirement would be "TWO BATHROOMS" or "FOUR BEDROOMS". (Search through checkboxes, radios and text fields that was defined in the "property.module" file and database structure. (This module is written by an amateur (me), that's why not contributed, but, should there be interest in it, I will contribute it.) These extra search forms would be way different for each different application, so I don't expect the search module to be able to actually do this, but at least to provide functionality that a coder can write such an extension in his module, in other words, the queries that will define the search, and the form that the user will see, should be definable in the module, and called instead of the default search form if required. Will this be possible at all? Regards, Kobus ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:42:59 +0000 : lgarfiel @Kobus: Actually you can do that now. See the Location module for an example of a fully custom search function. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:59:25 +0000 : Kobus Hi! Thanks lgarfiel. I have downloaded the module and will play around with it over the weekend. Regards, Kobus ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 10:11:35 +0000 : Bèr Kessels * my update failed. You had/have a problem in update.inc in the updates/callback array. I had-modified the database and it works fine now. * I am not happy with the 5 character default limit. It took me quite some time to find out why my words were not indexed. But that should not hold back this patch. More somthing to have acloser look for in teh future. I think of intelligent auto-blackslisting or so. * When I do an advanced search, teh resutlts are primted in the box: very good!. But my advaced form is emty. That is no good udability, imo. That form should represent what I was searching for. * I still do not like he way results are returned by default: "weblink - Bèr Kessels - 05/08/2005 - 14:20 - 0 comments" is far too much data. And i even have "do not show data for foo", set in the theme settings! can we please re-thing the *default* styles for search results? Without all the CSS bloat, and without all the details? Why not go for a default teaser vew? $node->title = $title //the name, subject or title of teh element $node->teaser = $content // teh nice highlighted data of search result body That way it wil be consisten tih teh rest of the site, save a *lot* of code and be better theamble too. * "your serach yielded no results" should be a set_message. Yes, we discussed that it should be in the place where ppl look for the results. but I tried it, and it is just as visible above the search as below! really. (see screenie) Overall, i think introducing a complex search is very nice. And i think this is a great step forward. But I much rather see, this being implemented in a MUCH easier API as well as MUCH easier hooks. preprocessing as a single hook. What /is/ preprocessing? form, index, etc in one hook? why put preprocess ii a single hook, but the others on one huge nodapi alike construction? What do they do, these nodeapi things? Why do I need them and when do I need them? I say this, because I spent hours with and hours trial-and-error methods to get some form of advanced flexinode search going. The current system is just to hard to grok for an average developer like me. I know these things are easy to say, but very hard to implement. But as long as we cannot allow searching for the obvious data people see (I am sure I read that that search guru has winamp as favorite, why can't i find his username when i search for winamp) I think we should be carefull with extending the search into advanced search. Can we not first think of a general solution, one that will fix ALL drupals search problems and then dive into advanced searching, that will make it even more complex? Steven: I still think you did a marvelous job! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 13:25:45 +0000 : Steven "* When I do an advanced search, teh resutlts are printed in the box: very good!. But my advaced form is emty. That is no good udability, imo. That form should represent what I was searching for. " I debated over how to implement this, and I went for the current method of not showing anything in the advanced form. The first reason is that parsing a query back into the advanced options is not generally possible. For example, you could have more than one phrase in your query, yet the query builder only accomodates one for simplicity. It is a tool, not a complete equivalent to the keyword syntax. Secondly, there is a conflict between what is in the keywords box and what is in the advanced form. For example, I might build an advanced query, and then start modifying the 'baked in' keyword version. At that point we need to decide which takes precedence, and arguments can be found for both sides. At first I tried to reconcile this by only respecting the advanced controls if you pressed "advanced search", but then there is ambiguity of which button to default to if the user submits the form by pressing enter. I also thought of making it so that the query builder always adds to the keywords (ignoring duplicates), but that means you can't loosen a query except by manually removing parts of the keywords box /and/ manually unchecking the options in the advanced form. After trying out the various options, I found that the usability of the current method is the clearest and results in the least amount of inconsistencies perceived as 'buggy behaviour'. "What /is/ preprocessing? why put preprocess ii a single hook, but the others on one huge nodapi alike construction? " Preprocessing is what it says: a transformation applied to text before it is inserted in and matched against the search index. You can use it to add in stemming algorithms, soundex as well as word-splitting for non-spaced languages like Chinese and Japanese. As for why to put it in a separate hook: for performance reasons. "I am not happy with the 5 character default limit. It took me quite some time to find out why my words were not indexed. But that should not hold back this patch. More somthing to have acloser look for in teh future. I think of intelligent auto-blackslisting or so. " About the limit: it only has any effect if none of the words in your search query is 5 letters or longer. As soon as one word in the query is 5 letters, all results can be found. Judging from drupal.org searches, this was a correct trade-off to make. If you introduce a stemming algorithm through the preprocessor, you can probably afford to set the size limit smaller. But until then, imo 5 is a good default. About intelligent blacklisting: this is not really possible. The goal of blacklisting is to keep the index size down. But to find out which words to blacklist, you need to include them in some sort of index. Chicken and egg. "Can we not first think of a general solution, one that will fix ALL drupals search problems and then dive into advanced searching, that will make it even more complex? " I await your proposals. But until people start getting involved in the architecture rather than just bombarding me with feature-requests and saying that 'search sucks', I can only do things my way. In fact, the biggest complexity hurdle right now is simply that search is optional. This means that all search operations should go through search.module. Modules with 100% custom searches on the other hand can simply put a tab on "search/module" and do everything their way. But that means that that tab will be there even if search.module is disabled and that these modules cannot take advantage of the various utility functions provided by search.module. For example, searching profile fields for user search is perfectly possible even without this patch, though it would require that the user search be moved into profile.module. A nodeapi-like system where profile.module can add to user.module's search would only result in huge joins and queries being added to other queries en-masse. The code would be even more complex than it is now. As far as the hook_search ops, I'm sorry but I think they are quite clear. I specifically added comments to node_search to explain each op when this would not be done normally (e.g. everyone is assumed to know that nodeapi('validate') is used to validate extra node fields): 'name': return the name of this search 'search': perform a search (new) 'form': add form items to the standard 'enter your keywords' search (new) 'post': process a search form and inject the parameters into the keyword string (needed because of the clean URLs) And only for index-using modules: 'reset': reset the indexing progress 'status': return status of the indexing progress (% completed) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 15:19:57 +0000 : Bèr Kessels Thanks. So lets get teh focus back on the patch then. And move my proposal for a new search architecture to new thread; http://drupal.org/node/28275 I agree about the complexity of re-filling the search box. But still, it somehow gfeels odd that its not fileld anymore. Its a usability no-no to do that, though your rationale for not filling it makes more sense. Maybe we just need to rething the interface in general then? Does anyone s"ee any other options? Put adv.search in a tab advanced could be an option: but that might be a no-no because we hide it away then. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 21:57:44 +0000 : matt_paz I have the code running at http://connect.educause.edu "100% of the site has been indexed." Minimum word length to index: 4 Nonetheless, I'm getting mixed results. If I search for 'Hawkins' I get no results ... even though I know (I think) it should be indexing the word hawkins from the body of this content ... http://connect.educause.edu/blog/mpasiewicz/317 Any ideas? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 22:42:22 +0000 : cyberchucktx Looks greeat! I may give it a shot this weekend ... and since I'm using Civicspace i'll be really daring and try it out within that system as well. I haven't read *all* the comments yet .. but would be it possible to do some admin work to setup different search types similar to the "Input Formats" section? By this I mean that different search types could "lock down" various parts of the interface to restrict the search to specific categories ... Charlie
Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/28159 Post a follow up: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/28159 Project: Drupal Version: cvs Component: search.module Category: feature requests Priority: normal Assigned to: Steven Reported by: Steven Updated by: Ballie Status: patch (code needs review) Carefull when using temporary tables: not all hosting companies might give their users the necessary privilege. (Mine doesn't even give me LOCK TABLES privilege.) ""From MySQL 4.0.2 on, you must have the CREATE TEMPORARY TABLES privilege to be able to create temporary tables."(MySQL Reference Manual) " Maybe we should provide an (slower, but working) alternative, so that they don't get an ugly error message. Ballie Previous comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 00:46:49 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_2.patch (37.05 KB) Here's my promised search patch. It's not 100% commit ready yet, but it's time to sollicit some feedback and get this tested ;). Note that this patch requires a db update, which will wipe the search index. You will then need to call cron.php enough times for the site to be indexed completely again. This could take a while for large databases, but you can control the throttle and see the progress at admin/settings/search. *Features* * AND keyword matching by default ('all of the words'), instead of OR ('any of the words'). * OR support through keyword1 OR keyword2 OR ... * Phrase searching through "quoted strings". * Negative matching through -"minus prefix" -word. * Restrict search by taxonomy or node type(s) using taxonomy:1,2 and type:blog,page. The options are built-into the keyword string through a google like syntax, but there is an expandable "advanced settings" form below the search box which acts as a 'query builder': This example will result in the following search string (of course not a practical example): test type:forum,story category:1 "tinky winky" OR "dipsy" -"uh oh" "teletubby bye bye" On a different note, I removed the wildcard matching. An important reason is that there were significant performance problems with leading wildcards. Such queries were not be able to use any indices, and the resulting full-table scan took a long time. Even Google does not have intra-word wildcards, theirs can only be used as placeholders for entire words in phrases. Trailing wildcards on the other hand are usually used to accomodate grammatical variations on a word. But, wildcards are not really the best tool for this as this puts a burden on the user. If you need this feature, you should instead tie in an algorithm like the Porter Stemmer through the search_preprocess hook. That way you can reduce related words to a single common root (e.g. "walker" "walking" "walked" to "walk"). The search system will then index and search on the reduced words. You will even benefit from a reduced database size because there are less unique words. Because such algorithms are very language specific, I didn't build in any. But it should be trivial to make a Porter Stemmer module for Drupal search, which can be used on english sites. *Database* To implement the above searches, I added a 'search_dataset' table that is independent of the keyword index. Each dataset row contains the entire contents of the indexed item, but filtered, cleaned up and reduced to space-sparated tokens (words, numbers, dates, ...). This table is used to resolve the exact conditions, which means the keyword index is not as essential anymore. Because searches are AND by default, the OR method of search_index acts as an initial filter to eliminate the majority of items immediately. That subset is then further reduced through the search_dataset table. All of this means that the search_index table can now be indexed at a much higher minimum word lenght (e.g. 5), which means a reduced database size. Even with the new dataset table, the net database size shrinks slightly. I also implemented the searching as two selects into temporary tables. This allows me to avoid doing a costly counting query for the pager and a range-limited query for the actual results. I added support for temporary tables to database.(my|pg)sql. The db api itself takes a normal SELECT and a table name, and turns it into an appropriate platform specific temporary table query (CREATE TABLE ... AS, CREATE TABLE ... SELECT). I still need to do detailed benchmarking, but at least for the same queries as before, this patch should be faster. Of course, pre-patch, all searches were OR, not AND, so a direct comparison needs to take this into account (the pre-patch query "drupal theme development" is now "drupal OR theme OR development"). One feature request that I did not do is date based searching (before X/X/X, after X/X/X), mostly because we don't have a good date widget yet. I've been toying with making a simple in-page JS data picker, but it's not done yet and I think the patch is good enough already. Date restrictions can be added on later without any problems. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 01:27:29 +0000 : Steven Oh and in case this wasn't clear, the syntax of putting extra conditions into the search keywords ("type:blog") means that each search result page can be linked to directly. They all have clean URLs: search/node/type:blog+keyword for example. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 02:34:38 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch (37.05 KB) Sorry, the patch was malformed because wincvs wrapped those really long preg classes :P. Fixed patch attached. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:28:14 +0000 : stevryn This looks great, cant wait till its fully ready. I tried trip_search, but couldnt get it to work, and the regular search definately needed some better features! I would like to test it, but I have no idea how to apply a patch. Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it? Tx T ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:23:08 +0000 : webchick
Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it?
I can help you there, I think. Follow step 2 here if you don't already have a CVS version of Drupal up and running (you can't use this patch against 4.6.2, for example): http://www.planetsoc.com/node/164 Then, switch to your Drupal CVS root directory, for example: cd ~/drupal-cvs Use wget to retrieve a copy of the most recent patch (in this case, search_3.patch): wget http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch Execute the following command to apply the patch to your Drupal installation: patch -p0 -u < search_3.patch This will patch all the files with the updated search. Then go through the normal steps you would go through to get a new Drupal system up and running. Step 3 of the aforementioned link has some info on how to get a table prefix going if you want to keep this test version separate from your "normal" Drupal installation. My problem is I've done all of this, but am still getting strange errors (even on a "normal" unpatched version of the search), so I need to figure out if I have a problem on my end or what's going on. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:27:52 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org @Jeremy: Sorting by two fields does not seem to work. @Moshe: This code does not rely on the fact that wid is an auto_increment field in any way. Just some concerns did. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:29:28 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org Oops, that comment should have been for another issue. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:49:36 +0000 : matt_paz It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:50:11 +0000 : matt_paz Nice addition! It seems to be working great. It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 17:20:48 +0000 : stevryn Thanks webchick! I have it working now. Great work Steven, my live site is 4.6.1, I havent wanted to take the great leap and update, last time I did it was *not* pretty. I assume this will work with that version once its completed and submitted? Seriously the search functionality needs this sort of advanced features!! Tx for all your work! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:19:51 +0000 : Kobus Hi! Like the previous replier to this post, I can't apply patches myself, but simply because I don't do it frequently enough, and forgot how to do it, but I will catch up with this and test if I get a chance. In principle this is a great patch! Definate +1. I have another feature (not sure it belongs to this thread, so if not, I apologize) that I would love to see in the search module. That is to provide hooks so that you can create a customized search form, for example, I need the following three field sets in a search form for a property website: * Price range "Start price" -> "End price", using some MIN() and MAX() functions if the user selects the wrong way around. (dropdowns with certain ranges). * Area where the property is supposed to be located in (taxonomy category). * Features that the property MUST have, for example, your requirement would be "TWO BATHROOMS" or "FOUR BEDROOMS". (Search through checkboxes, radios and text fields that was defined in the "property.module" file and database structure. (This module is written by an amateur (me), that's why not contributed, but, should there be interest in it, I will contribute it.) These extra search forms would be way different for each different application, so I don't expect the search module to be able to actually do this, but at least to provide functionality that a coder can write such an extension in his module, in other words, the queries that will define the search, and the form that the user will see, should be definable in the module, and called instead of the default search form if required. Will this be possible at all? Regards, Kobus ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:42:59 +0000 : lgarfiel @Kobus: Actually you can do that now. See the Location module for an example of a fully custom search function. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:59:25 +0000 : Kobus Hi! Thanks lgarfiel. I have downloaded the module and will play around with it over the weekend. Regards, Kobus ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 10:11:35 +0000 : Bèr Kessels * my update failed. You had/have a problem in update.inc in the updates/callback array. I had-modified the database and it works fine now. * I am not happy with the 5 character default limit. It took me quite some time to find out why my words were not indexed. But that should not hold back this patch. More somthing to have acloser look for in teh future. I think of intelligent auto-blackslisting or so. * When I do an advanced search, teh resutlts are primted in the box: very good!. But my advaced form is emty. That is no good udability, imo. That form should represent what I was searching for. * I still do not like he way results are returned by default: "weblink - Bèr Kessels - 05/08/2005 - 14:20 - 0 comments" is far too much data. And i even have "do not show data for foo", set in the theme settings! can we please re-thing the *default* styles for search results? Without all the CSS bloat, and without all the details? Why not go for a default teaser vew? $node->title = $title //the name, subject or title of teh element $node->teaser = $content // teh nice highlighted data of search result body That way it wil be consisten tih teh rest of the site, save a *lot* of code and be better theamble too. * "your serach yielded no results" should be a set_message. Yes, we discussed that it should be in the place where ppl look for the results. but I tried it, and it is just as visible above the search as below! really. (see screenie) Overall, i think introducing a complex search is very nice. And i think this is a great step forward. But I much rather see, this being implemented in a MUCH easier API as well as MUCH easier hooks. preprocessing as a single hook. What /is/ preprocessing? form, index, etc in one hook? why put preprocess ii a single hook, but the others on one huge nodapi alike construction? What do they do, these nodeapi things? Why do I need them and when do I need them? I say this, because I spent hours with and hours trial-and-error methods to get some form of advanced flexinode search going. The current system is just to hard to grok for an average developer like me. I know these things are easy to say, but very hard to implement. But as long as we cannot allow searching for the obvious data people see (I am sure I read that that search guru has winamp as favorite, why can't i find his username when i search for winamp) I think we should be carefull with extending the search into advanced search. Can we not first think of a general solution, one that will fix ALL drupals search problems and then dive into advanced searching, that will make it even more complex? Steven: I still think you did a marvelous job! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 13:25:45 +0000 : Steven "* When I do an advanced search, teh resutlts are printed in the box: very good!. But my advaced form is emty. That is no good udability, imo. That form should represent what I was searching for. " I debated over how to implement this, and I went for the current method of not showing anything in the advanced form. The first reason is that parsing a query back into the advanced options is not generally possible. For example, you could have more than one phrase in your query, yet the query builder only accomodates one for simplicity. It is a tool, not a complete equivalent to the keyword syntax. Secondly, there is a conflict between what is in the keywords box and what is in the advanced form. For example, I might build an advanced query, and then start modifying the 'baked in' keyword version. At that point we need to decide which takes precedence, and arguments can be found for both sides. At first I tried to reconcile this by only respecting the advanced controls if you pressed "advanced search", but then there is ambiguity of which button to default to if the user submits the form by pressing enter. I also thought of making it so that the query builder always adds to the keywords (ignoring duplicates), but that means you can't loosen a query except by manually removing parts of the keywords box /and/ manually unchecking the options in the advanced form. After trying out the various options, I found that the usability of the current method is the clearest and results in the least amount of inconsistencies perceived as 'buggy behaviour'. "What /is/ preprocessing? why put preprocess ii a single hook, but the others on one huge nodapi alike construction? " Preprocessing is what it says: a transformation applied to text before it is inserted in and matched against the search index. You can use it to add in stemming algorithms, soundex as well as word-splitting for non-spaced languages like Chinese and Japanese. As for why to put it in a separate hook: for performance reasons. "I am not happy with the 5 character default limit. It took me quite some time to find out why my words were not indexed. But that should not hold back this patch. More somthing to have acloser look for in teh future. I think of intelligent auto-blackslisting or so. " About the limit: it only has any effect if none of the words in your search query is 5 letters or longer. As soon as one word in the query is 5 letters, all results can be found. Judging from drupal.org searches, this was a correct trade-off to make. If you introduce a stemming algorithm through the preprocessor, you can probably afford to set the size limit smaller. But until then, imo 5 is a good default. About intelligent blacklisting: this is not really possible. The goal of blacklisting is to keep the index size down. But to find out which words to blacklist, you need to include them in some sort of index. Chicken and egg. "Can we not first think of a general solution, one that will fix ALL drupals search problems and then dive into advanced searching, that will make it even more complex? " I await your proposals. But until people start getting involved in the architecture rather than just bombarding me with feature-requests and saying that 'search sucks', I can only do things my way. In fact, the biggest complexity hurdle right now is simply that search is optional. This means that all search operations should go through search.module. Modules with 100% custom searches on the other hand can simply put a tab on "search/module" and do everything their way. But that means that that tab will be there even if search.module is disabled and that these modules cannot take advantage of the various utility functions provided by search.module. For example, searching profile fields for user search is perfectly possible even without this patch, though it would require that the user search be moved into profile.module. A nodeapi-like system where profile.module can add to user.module's search would only result in huge joins and queries being added to other queries en-masse. The code would be even more complex than it is now. As far as the hook_search ops, I'm sorry but I think they are quite clear. I specifically added comments to node_search to explain each op when this would not be done normally (e.g. everyone is assumed to know that nodeapi('validate') is used to validate extra node fields): 'name': return the name of this search 'search': perform a search (new) 'form': add form items to the standard 'enter your keywords' search (new) 'post': process a search form and inject the parameters into the keyword string (needed because of the clean URLs) And only for index-using modules: 'reset': reset the indexing progress 'status': return status of the indexing progress (% completed) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 15:19:57 +0000 : Bèr Kessels Thanks. So lets get teh focus back on the patch then. And move my proposal for a new search architecture to new thread; http://drupal.org/node/28275 I agree about the complexity of re-filling the search box. But still, it somehow gfeels odd that its not fileld anymore. Its a usability no-no to do that, though your rationale for not filling it makes more sense. Maybe we just need to rething the interface in general then? Does anyone s"ee any other options? Put adv.search in a tab advanced could be an option: but that might be a no-no because we hide it away then. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 21:57:44 +0000 : matt_paz I have the code running at http://connect.educause.edu "100% of the site has been indexed." Minimum word length to index: 4 Nonetheless, I'm getting mixed results. If I search for 'Hawkins' I get no results ... even though I know (I think) it should be indexing the word hawkins from the body of this content ... http://connect.educause.edu/blog/mpasiewicz/317 Any ideas? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 22:42:22 +0000 : cyberchucktx Looks greeat! I may give it a shot this weekend ... and since I'm using Civicspace i'll be really daring and try it out within that system as well. I haven't read *all* the comments yet .. but would be it possible to do some admin work to setup different search types similar to the "Input Formats" section? By this I mean that different search types could "lock down" various parts of the interface to restrict the search to specific categories ... Charlie ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 08 Aug 2005 21:24:30 +0000 : matt_paz sorry, the link for the example where the text does exist should have been ... http://connect.educause.edu/blog/mpasiewicz/podcast_coverage_of_brian_hawkin...
Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/28159 Post a follow up: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/28159 Project: Drupal Version: cvs Component: search.module Category: feature requests Priority: normal Assigned to: Steven Reported by: Steven Updated by: nedjo Status: patch (code needs review) Nice work Steven. These advanced operands are a great addition. If you haven't already, you might wish to look at how I've implemented some of these advanced search functionalities in SQL Search (formerly trip search). Specifically: * While it's handy having advanced as a form group right on the search form, all in all I think it's better to have "advanced" as a separate page. Google is a good guide here. The advanced page feeds into a search results with just the simple form, containing any advanced operands. This encourages users to recognize and use the operands in the simple form, and solves the problem of whether to replicate the advanced elements on the results page. * If you want to add help text on advanced operands, you'll find some in SQL Search * By providing a link for advanced search for each content type, it's possible to limit the taxonomy terms to vocabularies associated with that content type. * Have a look at the filtering within results (by both content type and category). You might want to do something similar, or else I'd be happy to contribute a port of that to core after your patch hits. In general, the new approach seems to move the core search module closer to what's done in SQL Search--that is, relying on native SQL matching rather than custom indexing. It may make sense to phase out SQL Search, and possibly introduce the options (native MySQL full text indexing, etc.) into the core module. nedjo Previous comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 00:46:49 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_2.patch (37.05 KB) Here's my promised search patch. It's not 100% commit ready yet, but it's time to sollicit some feedback and get this tested ;). Note that this patch requires a db update, which will wipe the search index. You will then need to call cron.php enough times for the site to be indexed completely again. This could take a while for large databases, but you can control the throttle and see the progress at admin/settings/search. *Features* * AND keyword matching by default ('all of the words'), instead of OR ('any of the words'). * OR support through keyword1 OR keyword2 OR ... * Phrase searching through "quoted strings". * Negative matching through -"minus prefix" -word. * Restrict search by taxonomy or node type(s) using taxonomy:1,2 and type:blog,page. The options are built-into the keyword string through a google like syntax, but there is an expandable "advanced settings" form below the search box which acts as a 'query builder': This example will result in the following search string (of course not a practical example): test type:forum,story category:1 "tinky winky" OR "dipsy" -"uh oh" "teletubby bye bye" On a different note, I removed the wildcard matching. An important reason is that there were significant performance problems with leading wildcards. Such queries were not be able to use any indices, and the resulting full-table scan took a long time. Even Google does not have intra-word wildcards, theirs can only be used as placeholders for entire words in phrases. Trailing wildcards on the other hand are usually used to accomodate grammatical variations on a word. But, wildcards are not really the best tool for this as this puts a burden on the user. If you need this feature, you should instead tie in an algorithm like the Porter Stemmer through the search_preprocess hook. That way you can reduce related words to a single common root (e.g. "walker" "walking" "walked" to "walk"). The search system will then index and search on the reduced words. You will even benefit from a reduced database size because there are less unique words. Because such algorithms are very language specific, I didn't build in any. But it should be trivial to make a Porter Stemmer module for Drupal search, which can be used on english sites. *Database* To implement the above searches, I added a 'search_dataset' table that is independent of the keyword index. Each dataset row contains the entire contents of the indexed item, but filtered, cleaned up and reduced to space-sparated tokens (words, numbers, dates, ...). This table is used to resolve the exact conditions, which means the keyword index is not as essential anymore. Because searches are AND by default, the OR method of search_index acts as an initial filter to eliminate the majority of items immediately. That subset is then further reduced through the search_dataset table. All of this means that the search_index table can now be indexed at a much higher minimum word lenght (e.g. 5), which means a reduced database size. Even with the new dataset table, the net database size shrinks slightly. I also implemented the searching as two selects into temporary tables. This allows me to avoid doing a costly counting query for the pager and a range-limited query for the actual results. I added support for temporary tables to database.(my|pg)sql. The db api itself takes a normal SELECT and a table name, and turns it into an appropriate platform specific temporary table query (CREATE TABLE ... AS, CREATE TABLE ... SELECT). I still need to do detailed benchmarking, but at least for the same queries as before, this patch should be faster. Of course, pre-patch, all searches were OR, not AND, so a direct comparison needs to take this into account (the pre-patch query "drupal theme development" is now "drupal OR theme OR development"). One feature request that I did not do is date based searching (before X/X/X, after X/X/X), mostly because we don't have a good date widget yet. I've been toying with making a simple in-page JS data picker, but it's not done yet and I think the patch is good enough already. Date restrictions can be added on later without any problems. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 01:27:29 +0000 : Steven Oh and in case this wasn't clear, the syntax of putting extra conditions into the search keywords ("type:blog") means that each search result page can be linked to directly. They all have clean URLs: search/node/type:blog+keyword for example. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 02:34:38 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch (37.05 KB) Sorry, the patch was malformed because wincvs wrapped those really long preg classes :P. Fixed patch attached. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:28:14 +0000 : stevryn This looks great, cant wait till its fully ready. I tried trip_search, but couldnt get it to work, and the regular search definately needed some better features! I would like to test it, but I have no idea how to apply a patch. Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it? Tx T ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:23:08 +0000 : webchick
Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it?
I can help you there, I think. Follow step 2 here if you don't already have a CVS version of Drupal up and running (you can't use this patch against 4.6.2, for example): http://www.planetsoc.com/node/164 Then, switch to your Drupal CVS root directory, for example: cd ~/drupal-cvs Use wget to retrieve a copy of the most recent patch (in this case, search_3.patch): wget http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch Execute the following command to apply the patch to your Drupal installation: patch -p0 -u < search_3.patch This will patch all the files with the updated search. Then go through the normal steps you would go through to get a new Drupal system up and running. Step 3 of the aforementioned link has some info on how to get a table prefix going if you want to keep this test version separate from your "normal" Drupal installation. My problem is I've done all of this, but am still getting strange errors (even on a "normal" unpatched version of the search), so I need to figure out if I have a problem on my end or what's going on. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:27:52 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org @Jeremy: Sorting by two fields does not seem to work. @Moshe: This code does not rely on the fact that wid is an auto_increment field in any way. Just some concerns did. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:29:28 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org Oops, that comment should have been for another issue. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:49:36 +0000 : matt_paz It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:50:11 +0000 : matt_paz Nice addition! It seems to be working great. It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 17:20:48 +0000 : stevryn Thanks webchick! I have it working now. Great work Steven, my live site is 4.6.1, I havent wanted to take the great leap and update, last time I did it was *not* pretty. I assume this will work with that version once its completed and submitted? Seriously the search functionality needs this sort of advanced features!! Tx for all your work! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:19:51 +0000 : Kobus Hi! Like the previous replier to this post, I can't apply patches myself, but simply because I don't do it frequently enough, and forgot how to do it, but I will catch up with this and test if I get a chance. In principle this is a great patch! Definate +1. I have another feature (not sure it belongs to this thread, so if not, I apologize) that I would love to see in the search module. That is to provide hooks so that you can create a customized search form, for example, I need the following three field sets in a search form for a property website: * Price range "Start price" -> "End price", using some MIN() and MAX() functions if the user selects the wrong way around. (dropdowns with certain ranges). * Area where the property is supposed to be located in (taxonomy category). * Features that the property MUST have, for example, your requirement would be "TWO BATHROOMS" or "FOUR BEDROOMS". (Search through checkboxes, radios and text fields that was defined in the "property.module" file and database structure. (This module is written by an amateur (me), that's why not contributed, but, should there be interest in it, I will contribute it.) These extra search forms would be way different for each different application, so I don't expect the search module to be able to actually do this, but at least to provide functionality that a coder can write such an extension in his module, in other words, the queries that will define the search, and the form that the user will see, should be definable in the module, and called instead of the default search form if required. Will this be possible at all? Regards, Kobus ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:42:59 +0000 : lgarfiel @Kobus: Actually you can do that now. See the Location module for an example of a fully custom search function. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:59:25 +0000 : Kobus Hi! Thanks lgarfiel. I have downloaded the module and will play around with it over the weekend. Regards, Kobus ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 10:11:35 +0000 : Bèr Kessels * my update failed. You had/have a problem in update.inc in the updates/callback array. I had-modified the database and it works fine now. * I am not happy with the 5 character default limit. It took me quite some time to find out why my words were not indexed. But that should not hold back this patch. More somthing to have acloser look for in teh future. I think of intelligent auto-blackslisting or so. * When I do an advanced search, teh resutlts are primted in the box: very good!. But my advaced form is emty. That is no good udability, imo. That form should represent what I was searching for. * I still do not like he way results are returned by default: "weblink - Bèr Kessels - 05/08/2005 - 14:20 - 0 comments" is far too much data. And i even have "do not show data for foo", set in the theme settings! can we please re-thing the *default* styles for search results? Without all the CSS bloat, and without all the details? Why not go for a default teaser vew? $node->title = $title //the name, subject or title of teh element $node->teaser = $content // teh nice highlighted data of search result body That way it wil be consisten tih teh rest of the site, save a *lot* of code and be better theamble too. * "your serach yielded no results" should be a set_message. Yes, we discussed that it should be in the place where ppl look for the results. but I tried it, and it is just as visible above the search as below! really. (see screenie) Overall, i think introducing a complex search is very nice. And i think this is a great step forward. But I much rather see, this being implemented in a MUCH easier API as well as MUCH easier hooks. preprocessing as a single hook. What /is/ preprocessing? form, index, etc in one hook? why put preprocess ii a single hook, but the others on one huge nodapi alike construction? What do they do, these nodeapi things? Why do I need them and when do I need them? I say this, because I spent hours with and hours trial-and-error methods to get some form of advanced flexinode search going. The current system is just to hard to grok for an average developer like me. I know these things are easy to say, but very hard to implement. But as long as we cannot allow searching for the obvious data people see (I am sure I read that that search guru has winamp as favorite, why can't i find his username when i search for winamp) I think we should be carefull with extending the search into advanced search. Can we not first think of a general solution, one that will fix ALL drupals search problems and then dive into advanced searching, that will make it even more complex? Steven: I still think you did a marvelous job! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 13:25:45 +0000 : Steven "* When I do an advanced search, teh resutlts are printed in the box: very good!. But my advaced form is emty. That is no good udability, imo. That form should represent what I was searching for. " I debated over how to implement this, and I went for the current method of not showing anything in the advanced form. The first reason is that parsing a query back into the advanced options is not generally possible. For example, you could have more than one phrase in your query, yet the query builder only accomodates one for simplicity. It is a tool, not a complete equivalent to the keyword syntax. Secondly, there is a conflict between what is in the keywords box and what is in the advanced form. For example, I might build an advanced query, and then start modifying the 'baked in' keyword version. At that point we need to decide which takes precedence, and arguments can be found for both sides. At first I tried to reconcile this by only respecting the advanced controls if you pressed "advanced search", but then there is ambiguity of which button to default to if the user submits the form by pressing enter. I also thought of making it so that the query builder always adds to the keywords (ignoring duplicates), but that means you can't loosen a query except by manually removing parts of the keywords box /and/ manually unchecking the options in the advanced form. After trying out the various options, I found that the usability of the current method is the clearest and results in the least amount of inconsistencies perceived as 'buggy behaviour'. "What /is/ preprocessing? why put preprocess ii a single hook, but the others on one huge nodapi alike construction? " Preprocessing is what it says: a transformation applied to text before it is inserted in and matched against the search index. You can use it to add in stemming algorithms, soundex as well as word-splitting for non-spaced languages like Chinese and Japanese. As for why to put it in a separate hook: for performance reasons. "I am not happy with the 5 character default limit. It took me quite some time to find out why my words were not indexed. But that should not hold back this patch. More somthing to have acloser look for in teh future. I think of intelligent auto-blackslisting or so. " About the limit: it only has any effect if none of the words in your search query is 5 letters or longer. As soon as one word in the query is 5 letters, all results can be found. Judging from drupal.org searches, this was a correct trade-off to make. If you introduce a stemming algorithm through the preprocessor, you can probably afford to set the size limit smaller. But until then, imo 5 is a good default. About intelligent blacklisting: this is not really possible. The goal of blacklisting is to keep the index size down. But to find out which words to blacklist, you need to include them in some sort of index. Chicken and egg. "Can we not first think of a general solution, one that will fix ALL drupals search problems and then dive into advanced searching, that will make it even more complex? " I await your proposals. But until people start getting involved in the architecture rather than just bombarding me with feature-requests and saying that 'search sucks', I can only do things my way. In fact, the biggest complexity hurdle right now is simply that search is optional. This means that all search operations should go through search.module. Modules with 100% custom searches on the other hand can simply put a tab on "search/module" and do everything their way. But that means that that tab will be there even if search.module is disabled and that these modules cannot take advantage of the various utility functions provided by search.module. For example, searching profile fields for user search is perfectly possible even without this patch, though it would require that the user search be moved into profile.module. A nodeapi-like system where profile.module can add to user.module's search would only result in huge joins and queries being added to other queries en-masse. The code would be even more complex than it is now. As far as the hook_search ops, I'm sorry but I think they are quite clear. I specifically added comments to node_search to explain each op when this would not be done normally (e.g. everyone is assumed to know that nodeapi('validate') is used to validate extra node fields): 'name': return the name of this search 'search': perform a search (new) 'form': add form items to the standard 'enter your keywords' search (new) 'post': process a search form and inject the parameters into the keyword string (needed because of the clean URLs) And only for index-using modules: 'reset': reset the indexing progress 'status': return status of the indexing progress (% completed) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 15:19:57 +0000 : Bèr Kessels Thanks. So lets get teh focus back on the patch then. And move my proposal for a new search architecture to new thread; http://drupal.org/node/28275 I agree about the complexity of re-filling the search box. But still, it somehow gfeels odd that its not fileld anymore. Its a usability no-no to do that, though your rationale for not filling it makes more sense. Maybe we just need to rething the interface in general then? Does anyone s"ee any other options? Put adv.search in a tab advanced could be an option: but that might be a no-no because we hide it away then. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 21:57:44 +0000 : matt_paz I have the code running at http://connect.educause.edu "100% of the site has been indexed." Minimum word length to index: 4 Nonetheless, I'm getting mixed results. If I search for 'Hawkins' I get no results ... even though I know (I think) it should be indexing the word hawkins from the body of this content ... http://connect.educause.edu/blog/mpasiewicz/317 Any ideas? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 22:42:22 +0000 : cyberchucktx Looks greeat! I may give it a shot this weekend ... and since I'm using Civicspace i'll be really daring and try it out within that system as well. I haven't read *all* the comments yet .. but would be it possible to do some admin work to setup different search types similar to the "Input Formats" section? By this I mean that different search types could "lock down" various parts of the interface to restrict the search to specific categories ... Charlie ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 08 Aug 2005 21:24:30 +0000 : matt_paz sorry, the link for the example where the text does exist should have been ... http://connect.educause.edu/blog/mpasiewicz/podcast_coverage_of_brian_hawkin... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 08 Aug 2005 22:37:43 +0000 : Ballie Carefull when using temporary tables: not all hosting companies might give their users the necessary privilege. (Mine doesn't even give me LOCK TABLES privilege.) ""From MySQL 4.0.2 on, you must have the CREATE TEMPORARY TABLES privilege to be able to create temporary tables."(MySQL Reference Manual) " Maybe we should provide an (slower, but working) alternative, so that they don't get an ugly error message.
Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/28159 Post a follow up: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/28159 Project: Drupal Version: cvs Component: search.module Category: feature requests Priority: normal Assigned to: Steven Reported by: Steven Updated by: Steven Status: patch (code needs review) Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_5.patch (43.99 KB) Keeping up to date. Steven Previous comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 00:46:49 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_2.patch (37.05 KB) Here's my promised search patch. It's not 100% commit ready yet, but it's time to sollicit some feedback and get this tested ;). Note that this patch requires a db update, which will wipe the search index. You will then need to call cron.php enough times for the site to be indexed completely again. This could take a while for large databases, but you can control the throttle and see the progress at admin/settings/search. *Features* * AND keyword matching by default ('all of the words'), instead of OR ('any of the words'). * OR support through keyword1 OR keyword2 OR ... * Phrase searching through "quoted strings". * Negative matching through -"minus prefix" -word. * Restrict search by taxonomy or node type(s) using taxonomy:1,2 and type:blog,page. The options are built-into the keyword string through a google like syntax, but there is an expandable "advanced settings" form below the search box which acts as a 'query builder': This example will result in the following search string (of course not a practical example): test type:forum,story category:1 "tinky winky" OR "dipsy" -"uh oh" "teletubby bye bye" On a different note, I removed the wildcard matching. An important reason is that there were significant performance problems with leading wildcards. Such queries were not be able to use any indices, and the resulting full-table scan took a long time. Even Google does not have intra-word wildcards, theirs can only be used as placeholders for entire words in phrases. Trailing wildcards on the other hand are usually used to accomodate grammatical variations on a word. But, wildcards are not really the best tool for this as this puts a burden on the user. If you need this feature, you should instead tie in an algorithm like the Porter Stemmer through the search_preprocess hook. That way you can reduce related words to a single common root (e.g. "walker" "walking" "walked" to "walk"). The search system will then index and search on the reduced words. You will even benefit from a reduced database size because there are less unique words. Because such algorithms are very language specific, I didn't build in any. But it should be trivial to make a Porter Stemmer module for Drupal search, which can be used on english sites. *Database* To implement the above searches, I added a 'search_dataset' table that is independent of the keyword index. Each dataset row contains the entire contents of the indexed item, but filtered, cleaned up and reduced to space-sparated tokens (words, numbers, dates, ...). This table is used to resolve the exact conditions, which means the keyword index is not as essential anymore. Because searches are AND by default, the OR method of search_index acts as an initial filter to eliminate the majority of items immediately. That subset is then further reduced through the search_dataset table. All of this means that the search_index table can now be indexed at a much higher minimum word lenght (e.g. 5), which means a reduced database size. Even with the new dataset table, the net database size shrinks slightly. I also implemented the searching as two selects into temporary tables. This allows me to avoid doing a costly counting query for the pager and a range-limited query for the actual results. I added support for temporary tables to database.(my|pg)sql. The db api itself takes a normal SELECT and a table name, and turns it into an appropriate platform specific temporary table query (CREATE TABLE ... AS, CREATE TABLE ... SELECT). I still need to do detailed benchmarking, but at least for the same queries as before, this patch should be faster. Of course, pre-patch, all searches were OR, not AND, so a direct comparison needs to take this into account (the pre-patch query "drupal theme development" is now "drupal OR theme OR development"). One feature request that I did not do is date based searching (before X/X/X, after X/X/X), mostly because we don't have a good date widget yet. I've been toying with making a simple in-page JS data picker, but it's not done yet and I think the patch is good enough already. Date restrictions can be added on later without any problems. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 01:27:29 +0000 : Steven Oh and in case this wasn't clear, the syntax of putting extra conditions into the search keywords ("type:blog") means that each search result page can be linked to directly. They all have clean URLs: search/node/type:blog+keyword for example. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 02:34:38 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch (37.05 KB) Sorry, the patch was malformed because wincvs wrapped those really long preg classes :P. Fixed patch attached. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:28:14 +0000 : stevryn This looks great, cant wait till its fully ready. I tried trip_search, but couldnt get it to work, and the regular search definately needed some better features! I would like to test it, but I have no idea how to apply a patch. Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it? Tx T ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:23:08 +0000 : webchick
Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it?
I can help you there, I think. Follow step 2 here if you don't already have a CVS version of Drupal up and running (you can't use this patch against 4.6.2, for example): http://www.planetsoc.com/node/164 Then, switch to your Drupal CVS root directory, for example: cd ~/drupal-cvs Use wget to retrieve a copy of the most recent patch (in this case, search_3.patch): wget http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch Execute the following command to apply the patch to your Drupal installation: patch -p0 -u < search_3.patch This will patch all the files with the updated search. Then go through the normal steps you would go through to get a new Drupal system up and running. Step 3 of the aforementioned link has some info on how to get a table prefix going if you want to keep this test version separate from your "normal" Drupal installation. My problem is I've done all of this, but am still getting strange errors (even on a "normal" unpatched version of the search), so I need to figure out if I have a problem on my end or what's going on. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:27:52 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org @Jeremy: Sorting by two fields does not seem to work. @Moshe: This code does not rely on the fact that wid is an auto_increment field in any way. Just some concerns did. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:29:28 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org Oops, that comment should have been for another issue. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:49:36 +0000 : matt_paz It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:50:11 +0000 : matt_paz Nice addition! It seems to be working great. It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 17:20:48 +0000 : stevryn Thanks webchick! I have it working now. Great work Steven, my live site is 4.6.1, I havent wanted to take the great leap and update, last time I did it was *not* pretty. I assume this will work with that version once its completed and submitted? Seriously the search functionality needs this sort of advanced features!! Tx for all your work! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:19:51 +0000 : Kobus Hi! Like the previous replier to this post, I can't apply patches myself, but simply because I don't do it frequently enough, and forgot how to do it, but I will catch up with this and test if I get a chance. In principle this is a great patch! Definate +1. I have another feature (not sure it belongs to this thread, so if not, I apologize) that I would love to see in the search module. That is to provide hooks so that you can create a customized search form, for example, I need the following three field sets in a search form for a property website: * Price range "Start price" -> "End price", using some MIN() and MAX() functions if the user selects the wrong way around. (dropdowns with certain ranges). * Area where the property is supposed to be located in (taxonomy category). * Features that the property MUST have, for example, your requirement would be "TWO BATHROOMS" or "FOUR BEDROOMS". (Search through checkboxes, radios and text fields that was defined in the "property.module" file and database structure. (This module is written by an amateur (me), that's why not contributed, but, should there be interest in it, I will contribute it.) These extra search forms would be way different for each different application, so I don't expect the search module to be able to actually do this, but at least to provide functionality that a coder can write such an extension in his module, in other words, the queries that will define the search, and the form that the user will see, should be definable in the module, and called instead of the default search form if required. Will this be possible at all? Regards, Kobus ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:42:59 +0000 : lgarfiel @Kobus: Actually you can do that now. See the Location module for an example of a fully custom search function. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:59:25 +0000 : Kobus Hi! Thanks lgarfiel. I have downloaded the module and will play around with it over the weekend. Regards, Kobus ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 10:11:35 +0000 : Bèr Kessels * my update failed. You had/have a problem in update.inc in the updates/callback array. I had-modified the database and it works fine now. * I am not happy with the 5 character default limit. It took me quite some time to find out why my words were not indexed. But that should not hold back this patch. More somthing to have acloser look for in teh future. I think of intelligent auto-blackslisting or so. * When I do an advanced search, teh resutlts are primted in the box: very good!. But my advaced form is emty. That is no good udability, imo. That form should represent what I was searching for. * I still do not like he way results are returned by default: "weblink - Bèr Kessels - 05/08/2005 - 14:20 - 0 comments" is far too much data. And i even have "do not show data for foo", set in the theme settings! can we please re-thing the *default* styles for search results? Without all the CSS bloat, and without all the details? Why not go for a default teaser vew? $node->title = $title //the name, subject or title of teh element $node->teaser = $content // teh nice highlighted data of search result body That way it wil be consisten tih teh rest of the site, save a *lot* of code and be better theamble too. * "your serach yielded no results" should be a set_message. Yes, we discussed that it should be in the place where ppl look for the results. but I tried it, and it is just as visible above the search as below! really. (see screenie) Overall, i think introducing a complex search is very nice. And i think this is a great step forward. But I much rather see, this being implemented in a MUCH easier API as well as MUCH easier hooks. preprocessing as a single hook. What /is/ preprocessing? form, index, etc in one hook? why put preprocess ii a single hook, but the others on one huge nodapi alike construction? What do they do, these nodeapi things? Why do I need them and when do I need them? I say this, because I spent hours with and hours trial-and-error methods to get some form of advanced flexinode search going. The current system is just to hard to grok for an average developer like me. I know these things are easy to say, but very hard to implement. But as long as we cannot allow searching for the obvious data people see (I am sure I read that that search guru has winamp as favorite, why can't i find his username when i search for winamp) I think we should be carefull with extending the search into advanced search. Can we not first think of a general solution, one that will fix ALL drupals search problems and then dive into advanced searching, that will make it even more complex? Steven: I still think you did a marvelous job! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 13:25:45 +0000 : Steven "* When I do an advanced search, teh resutlts are printed in the box: very good!. But my advaced form is emty. That is no good udability, imo. That form should represent what I was searching for. " I debated over how to implement this, and I went for the current method of not showing anything in the advanced form. The first reason is that parsing a query back into the advanced options is not generally possible. For example, you could have more than one phrase in your query, yet the query builder only accomodates one for simplicity. It is a tool, not a complete equivalent to the keyword syntax. Secondly, there is a conflict between what is in the keywords box and what is in the advanced form. For example, I might build an advanced query, and then start modifying the 'baked in' keyword version. At that point we need to decide which takes precedence, and arguments can be found for both sides. At first I tried to reconcile this by only respecting the advanced controls if you pressed "advanced search", but then there is ambiguity of which button to default to if the user submits the form by pressing enter. I also thought of making it so that the query builder always adds to the keywords (ignoring duplicates), but that means you can't loosen a query except by manually removing parts of the keywords box /and/ manually unchecking the options in the advanced form. After trying out the various options, I found that the usability of the current method is the clearest and results in the least amount of inconsistencies perceived as 'buggy behaviour'. "What /is/ preprocessing? why put preprocess ii a single hook, but the others on one huge nodapi alike construction? " Preprocessing is what it says: a transformation applied to text before it is inserted in and matched against the search index. You can use it to add in stemming algorithms, soundex as well as word-splitting for non-spaced languages like Chinese and Japanese. As for why to put it in a separate hook: for performance reasons. "I am not happy with the 5 character default limit. It took me quite some time to find out why my words were not indexed. But that should not hold back this patch. More somthing to have acloser look for in teh future. I think of intelligent auto-blackslisting or so. " About the limit: it only has any effect if none of the words in your search query is 5 letters or longer. As soon as one word in the query is 5 letters, all results can be found. Judging from drupal.org searches, this was a correct trade-off to make. If you introduce a stemming algorithm through the preprocessor, you can probably afford to set the size limit smaller. But until then, imo 5 is a good default. About intelligent blacklisting: this is not really possible. The goal of blacklisting is to keep the index size down. But to find out which words to blacklist, you need to include them in some sort of index. Chicken and egg. "Can we not first think of a general solution, one that will fix ALL drupals search problems and then dive into advanced searching, that will make it even more complex? " I await your proposals. But until people start getting involved in the architecture rather than just bombarding me with feature-requests and saying that 'search sucks', I can only do things my way. In fact, the biggest complexity hurdle right now is simply that search is optional. This means that all search operations should go through search.module. Modules with 100% custom searches on the other hand can simply put a tab on "search/module" and do everything their way. But that means that that tab will be there even if search.module is disabled and that these modules cannot take advantage of the various utility functions provided by search.module. For example, searching profile fields for user search is perfectly possible even without this patch, though it would require that the user search be moved into profile.module. A nodeapi-like system where profile.module can add to user.module's search would only result in huge joins and queries being added to other queries en-masse. The code would be even more complex than it is now. As far as the hook_search ops, I'm sorry but I think they are quite clear. I specifically added comments to node_search to explain each op when this would not be done normally (e.g. everyone is assumed to know that nodeapi('validate') is used to validate extra node fields): 'name': return the name of this search 'search': perform a search (new) 'form': add form items to the standard 'enter your keywords' search (new) 'post': process a search form and inject the parameters into the keyword string (needed because of the clean URLs) And only for index-using modules: 'reset': reset the indexing progress 'status': return status of the indexing progress (% completed) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 15:19:57 +0000 : Bèr Kessels Thanks. So lets get teh focus back on the patch then. And move my proposal for a new search architecture to new thread; http://drupal.org/node/28275 I agree about the complexity of re-filling the search box. But still, it somehow gfeels odd that its not fileld anymore. Its a usability no-no to do that, though your rationale for not filling it makes more sense. Maybe we just need to rething the interface in general then? Does anyone s"ee any other options? Put adv.search in a tab advanced could be an option: but that might be a no-no because we hide it away then. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 21:57:44 +0000 : matt_paz I have the code running at http://connect.educause.edu "100% of the site has been indexed." Minimum word length to index: 4 Nonetheless, I'm getting mixed results. If I search for 'Hawkins' I get no results ... even though I know (I think) it should be indexing the word hawkins from the body of this content ... http://connect.educause.edu/blog/mpasiewicz/317 Any ideas? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 22:42:22 +0000 : cyberchucktx Looks greeat! I may give it a shot this weekend ... and since I'm using Civicspace i'll be really daring and try it out within that system as well. I haven't read *all* the comments yet .. but would be it possible to do some admin work to setup different search types similar to the "Input Formats" section? By this I mean that different search types could "lock down" various parts of the interface to restrict the search to specific categories ... Charlie ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 08 Aug 2005 21:24:30 +0000 : matt_paz sorry, the link for the example where the text does exist should have been ... http://connect.educause.edu/blog/mpasiewicz/podcast_coverage_of_brian_hawkin... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 08 Aug 2005 22:37:43 +0000 : Ballie Carefull when using temporary tables: not all hosting companies might give their users the necessary privilege. (Mine doesn't even give me LOCK TABLES privilege.) ""From MySQL 4.0.2 on, you must have the CREATE TEMPORARY TABLES privilege to be able to create temporary tables."(MySQL Reference Manual) " Maybe we should provide an (slower, but working) alternative, so that they don't get an ugly error message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, 09 Aug 2005 04:28:36 +0000 : nedjo Nice work Steven. These advanced operands are a great addition. If you haven't already, you might wish to look at how I've implemented some of these advanced search functionalities in SQL Search (formerly trip search). Specifically: * While it's handy having advanced as a form group right on the search form, all in all I think it's better to have "advanced" as a separate page. Google is a good guide here. The advanced page feeds into a search results with just the simple form, containing any advanced operands. This encourages users to recognize and use the operands in the simple form, and solves the problem of whether to replicate the advanced elements on the results page. * If you want to add help text on advanced operands, you'll find some in SQL Search * By providing a link for advanced search for each content type, it's possible to limit the taxonomy terms to vocabularies associated with that content type. * Have a look at the filtering within results (by both content type and category). You might want to do something similar, or else I'd be happy to contribute a port of that to core after your patch hits. In general, the new approach seems to move the core search module closer to what's done in SQL Search--that is, relying on native SQL matching rather than custom indexing. It may make sense to phase out SQL Search, and possibly introduce the options (native MySQL full text indexing, etc.) into the core module.
Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/28159 Post a follow up: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/28159 Project: Drupal Version: cvs Component: search.module Category: feature requests Priority: normal Assigned to: Steven Reported by: Steven Updated by: levavie Status: patch (code needs review) Recent results must appear first. Please order the search by *decending date order*. Have you tried to search drupal for info lately? Then you will understand what I mean. Tons of results for 2002 and 2003 are mixed with recent results. Amnon - Personal: Bring Dolphin's Simple Joy to your Work - Job - Career Professional: Small Business Web Hosting Strategies, Drupal Consulting / Drupal Hebrew Translation levavie Previous comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 00:46:49 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_2.patch (37.05 KB) Here's my promised search patch. It's not 100% commit ready yet, but it's time to sollicit some feedback and get this tested ;). Note that this patch requires a db update, which will wipe the search index. You will then need to call cron.php enough times for the site to be indexed completely again. This could take a while for large databases, but you can control the throttle and see the progress at admin/settings/search. *Features* * AND keyword matching by default ('all of the words'), instead of OR ('any of the words'). * OR support through keyword1 OR keyword2 OR ... * Phrase searching through "quoted strings". * Negative matching through -"minus prefix" -word. * Restrict search by taxonomy or node type(s) using taxonomy:1,2 and type:blog,page. The options are built-into the keyword string through a google like syntax, but there is an expandable "advanced settings" form below the search box which acts as a 'query builder': This example will result in the following search string (of course not a practical example): test type:forum,story category:1 "tinky winky" OR "dipsy" -"uh oh" "teletubby bye bye" On a different note, I removed the wildcard matching. An important reason is that there were significant performance problems with leading wildcards. Such queries were not be able to use any indices, and the resulting full-table scan took a long time. Even Google does not have intra-word wildcards, theirs can only be used as placeholders for entire words in phrases. Trailing wildcards on the other hand are usually used to accomodate grammatical variations on a word. But, wildcards are not really the best tool for this as this puts a burden on the user. If you need this feature, you should instead tie in an algorithm like the Porter Stemmer through the search_preprocess hook. That way you can reduce related words to a single common root (e.g. "walker" "walking" "walked" to "walk"). The search system will then index and search on the reduced words. You will even benefit from a reduced database size because there are less unique words. Because such algorithms are very language specific, I didn't build in any. But it should be trivial to make a Porter Stemmer module for Drupal search, which can be used on english sites. *Database* To implement the above searches, I added a 'search_dataset' table that is independent of the keyword index. Each dataset row contains the entire contents of the indexed item, but filtered, cleaned up and reduced to space-sparated tokens (words, numbers, dates, ...). This table is used to resolve the exact conditions, which means the keyword index is not as essential anymore. Because searches are AND by default, the OR method of search_index acts as an initial filter to eliminate the majority of items immediately. That subset is then further reduced through the search_dataset table. All of this means that the search_index table can now be indexed at a much higher minimum word lenght (e.g. 5), which means a reduced database size. Even with the new dataset table, the net database size shrinks slightly. I also implemented the searching as two selects into temporary tables. This allows me to avoid doing a costly counting query for the pager and a range-limited query for the actual results. I added support for temporary tables to database.(my|pg)sql. The db api itself takes a normal SELECT and a table name, and turns it into an appropriate platform specific temporary table query (CREATE TABLE ... AS, CREATE TABLE ... SELECT). I still need to do detailed benchmarking, but at least for the same queries as before, this patch should be faster. Of course, pre-patch, all searches were OR, not AND, so a direct comparison needs to take this into account (the pre-patch query "drupal theme development" is now "drupal OR theme OR development"). One feature request that I did not do is date based searching (before X/X/X, after X/X/X), mostly because we don't have a good date widget yet. I've been toying with making a simple in-page JS data picker, but it's not done yet and I think the patch is good enough already. Date restrictions can be added on later without any problems. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 01:27:29 +0000 : Steven Oh and in case this wasn't clear, the syntax of putting extra conditions into the search keywords ("type:blog") means that each search result page can be linked to directly. They all have clean URLs: search/node/type:blog+keyword for example. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 02:34:38 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch (37.05 KB) Sorry, the patch was malformed because wincvs wrapped those really long preg classes :P. Fixed patch attached. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:28:14 +0000 : stevryn This looks great, cant wait till its fully ready. I tried trip_search, but couldnt get it to work, and the regular search definately needed some better features! I would like to test it, but I have no idea how to apply a patch. Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it? Tx T ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:23:08 +0000 : webchick
Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it?
I can help you there, I think. Follow step 2 here if you don't already have a CVS version of Drupal up and running (you can't use this patch against 4.6.2, for example): http://www.planetsoc.com/node/164 Then, switch to your Drupal CVS root directory, for example: cd ~/drupal-cvs Use wget to retrieve a copy of the most recent patch (in this case, search_3.patch): wget http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch Execute the following command to apply the patch to your Drupal installation: patch -p0 -u < search_3.patch This will patch all the files with the updated search. Then go through the normal steps you would go through to get a new Drupal system up and running. Step 3 of the aforementioned link has some info on how to get a table prefix going if you want to keep this test version separate from your "normal" Drupal installation. My problem is I've done all of this, but am still getting strange errors (even on a "normal" unpatched version of the search), so I need to figure out if I have a problem on my end or what's going on. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:27:52 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org @Jeremy: Sorting by two fields does not seem to work. @Moshe: This code does not rely on the fact that wid is an auto_increment field in any way. Just some concerns did. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:29:28 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org Oops, that comment should have been for another issue. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:49:36 +0000 : matt_paz It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:50:11 +0000 : matt_paz Nice addition! It seems to be working great. It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 17:20:48 +0000 : stevryn Thanks webchick! I have it working now. Great work Steven, my live site is 4.6.1, I havent wanted to take the great leap and update, last time I did it was *not* pretty. I assume this will work with that version once its completed and submitted? Seriously the search functionality needs this sort of advanced features!! Tx for all your work! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:19:51 +0000 : Kobus Hi! Like the previous replier to this post, I can't apply patches myself, but simply because I don't do it frequently enough, and forgot how to do it, but I will catch up with this and test if I get a chance. In principle this is a great patch! Definate +1. I have another feature (not sure it belongs to this thread, so if not, I apologize) that I would love to see in the search module. That is to provide hooks so that you can create a customized search form, for example, I need the following three field sets in a search form for a property website: * Price range "Start price" -> "End price", using some MIN() and MAX() functions if the user selects the wrong way around. (dropdowns with certain ranges). * Area where the property is supposed to be located in (taxonomy category). * Features that the property MUST have, for example, your requirement would be "TWO BATHROOMS" or "FOUR BEDROOMS". (Search through checkboxes, radios and text fields that was defined in the "property.module" file and database structure. (This module is written by an amateur (me), that's why not contributed, but, should there be interest in it, I will contribute it.) These extra search forms would be way different for each different application, so I don't expect the search module to be able to actually do this, but at least to provide functionality that a coder can write such an extension in his module, in other words, the queries that will define the search, and the form that the user will see, should be definable in the module, and called instead of the default search form if required. Will this be possible at all? Regards, Kobus ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:42:59 +0000 : lgarfiel @Kobus: Actually you can do that now. See the Location module for an example of a fully custom search function. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:59:25 +0000 : Kobus Hi! Thanks lgarfiel. I have downloaded the module and will play around with it over the weekend. Regards, Kobus ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 10:11:35 +0000 : Bèr Kessels * my update failed. You had/have a problem in update.inc in the updates/callback array. I had-modified the database and it works fine now. * I am not happy with the 5 character default limit. It took me quite some time to find out why my words were not indexed. But that should not hold back this patch. More somthing to have acloser look for in teh future. I think of intelligent auto-blackslisting or so. * When I do an advanced search, teh resutlts are primted in the box: very good!. But my advaced form is emty. That is no good udability, imo. That form should represent what I was searching for. * I still do not like he way results are returned by default: "weblink - Bèr Kessels - 05/08/2005 - 14:20 - 0 comments" is far too much data. And i even have "do not show data for foo", set in the theme settings! can we please re-thing the *default* styles for search results? Without all the CSS bloat, and without all the details? Why not go for a default teaser vew? $node->title = $title //the name, subject or title of teh element $node->teaser = $content // teh nice highlighted data of search result body That way it wil be consisten tih teh rest of the site, save a *lot* of code and be better theamble too. * "your serach yielded no results" should be a set_message. Yes, we discussed that it should be in the place where ppl look for the results. but I tried it, and it is just as visible above the search as below! really. (see screenie) Overall, i think introducing a complex search is very nice. And i think this is a great step forward. But I much rather see, this being implemented in a MUCH easier API as well as MUCH easier hooks. preprocessing as a single hook. What /is/ preprocessing? form, index, etc in one hook? why put preprocess ii a single hook, but the others on one huge nodapi alike construction? What do they do, these nodeapi things? Why do I need them and when do I need them? I say this, because I spent hours with and hours trial-and-error methods to get some form of advanced flexinode search going. The current system is just to hard to grok for an average developer like me. I know these things are easy to say, but very hard to implement. But as long as we cannot allow searching for the obvious data people see (I am sure I read that that search guru has winamp as favorite, why can't i find his username when i search for winamp) I think we should be carefull with extending the search into advanced search. Can we not first think of a general solution, one that will fix ALL drupals search problems and then dive into advanced searching, that will make it even more complex? Steven: I still think you did a marvelous job! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 13:25:45 +0000 : Steven "* When I do an advanced search, teh resutlts are printed in the box: very good!. But my advaced form is emty. That is no good udability, imo. That form should represent what I was searching for. " I debated over how to implement this, and I went for the current method of not showing anything in the advanced form. The first reason is that parsing a query back into the advanced options is not generally possible. For example, you could have more than one phrase in your query, yet the query builder only accomodates one for simplicity. It is a tool, not a complete equivalent to the keyword syntax. Secondly, there is a conflict between what is in the keywords box and what is in the advanced form. For example, I might build an advanced query, and then start modifying the 'baked in' keyword version. At that point we need to decide which takes precedence, and arguments can be found for both sides. At first I tried to reconcile this by only respecting the advanced controls if you pressed "advanced search", but then there is ambiguity of which button to default to if the user submits the form by pressing enter. I also thought of making it so that the query builder always adds to the keywords (ignoring duplicates), but that means you can't loosen a query except by manually removing parts of the keywords box /and/ manually unchecking the options in the advanced form. After trying out the various options, I found that the usability of the current method is the clearest and results in the least amount of inconsistencies perceived as 'buggy behaviour'. "What /is/ preprocessing? why put preprocess ii a single hook, but the others on one huge nodapi alike construction? " Preprocessing is what it says: a transformation applied to text before it is inserted in and matched against the search index. You can use it to add in stemming algorithms, soundex as well as word-splitting for non-spaced languages like Chinese and Japanese. As for why to put it in a separate hook: for performance reasons. "I am not happy with the 5 character default limit. It took me quite some time to find out why my words were not indexed. But that should not hold back this patch. More somthing to have acloser look for in teh future. I think of intelligent auto-blackslisting or so. " About the limit: it only has any effect if none of the words in your search query is 5 letters or longer. As soon as one word in the query is 5 letters, all results can be found. Judging from drupal.org searches, this was a correct trade-off to make. If you introduce a stemming algorithm through the preprocessor, you can probably afford to set the size limit smaller. But until then, imo 5 is a good default. About intelligent blacklisting: this is not really possible. The goal of blacklisting is to keep the index size down. But to find out which words to blacklist, you need to include them in some sort of index. Chicken and egg. "Can we not first think of a general solution, one that will fix ALL drupals search problems and then dive into advanced searching, that will make it even more complex? " I await your proposals. But until people start getting involved in the architecture rather than just bombarding me with feature-requests and saying that 'search sucks', I can only do things my way. In fact, the biggest complexity hurdle right now is simply that search is optional. This means that all search operations should go through search.module. Modules with 100% custom searches on the other hand can simply put a tab on "search/module" and do everything their way. But that means that that tab will be there even if search.module is disabled and that these modules cannot take advantage of the various utility functions provided by search.module. For example, searching profile fields for user search is perfectly possible even without this patch, though it would require that the user search be moved into profile.module. A nodeapi-like system where profile.module can add to user.module's search would only result in huge joins and queries being added to other queries en-masse. The code would be even more complex than it is now. As far as the hook_search ops, I'm sorry but I think they are quite clear. I specifically added comments to node_search to explain each op when this would not be done normally (e.g. everyone is assumed to know that nodeapi('validate') is used to validate extra node fields): 'name': return the name of this search 'search': perform a search (new) 'form': add form items to the standard 'enter your keywords' search (new) 'post': process a search form and inject the parameters into the keyword string (needed because of the clean URLs) And only for index-using modules: 'reset': reset the indexing progress 'status': return status of the indexing progress (% completed) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 15:19:57 +0000 : Bèr Kessels Thanks. So lets get teh focus back on the patch then. And move my proposal for a new search architecture to new thread; http://drupal.org/node/28275 I agree about the complexity of re-filling the search box. But still, it somehow gfeels odd that its not fileld anymore. Its a usability no-no to do that, though your rationale for not filling it makes more sense. Maybe we just need to rething the interface in general then? Does anyone s"ee any other options? Put adv.search in a tab advanced could be an option: but that might be a no-no because we hide it away then. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 21:57:44 +0000 : matt_paz I have the code running at http://connect.educause.edu "100% of the site has been indexed." Minimum word length to index: 4 Nonetheless, I'm getting mixed results. If I search for 'Hawkins' I get no results ... even though I know (I think) it should be indexing the word hawkins from the body of this content ... http://connect.educause.edu/blog/mpasiewicz/317 Any ideas? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 22:42:22 +0000 : cyberchucktx Looks greeat! I may give it a shot this weekend ... and since I'm using Civicspace i'll be really daring and try it out within that system as well. I haven't read *all* the comments yet .. but would be it possible to do some admin work to setup different search types similar to the "Input Formats" section? By this I mean that different search types could "lock down" various parts of the interface to restrict the search to specific categories ... Charlie ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 08 Aug 2005 21:24:30 +0000 : matt_paz sorry, the link for the example where the text does exist should have been ... http://connect.educause.edu/blog/mpasiewicz/podcast_coverage_of_brian_hawkin... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 08 Aug 2005 22:37:43 +0000 : Ballie Carefull when using temporary tables: not all hosting companies might give their users the necessary privilege. (Mine doesn't even give me LOCK TABLES privilege.) ""From MySQL 4.0.2 on, you must have the CREATE TEMPORARY TABLES privilege to be able to create temporary tables."(MySQL Reference Manual) " Maybe we should provide an (slower, but working) alternative, so that they don't get an ugly error message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, 09 Aug 2005 04:28:36 +0000 : nedjo Nice work Steven. These advanced operands are a great addition. If you haven't already, you might wish to look at how I've implemented some of these advanced search functionalities in SQL Search (formerly trip search). Specifically: * While it's handy having advanced as a form group right on the search form, all in all I think it's better to have "advanced" as a separate page. Google is a good guide here. The advanced page feeds into a search results with just the simple form, containing any advanced operands. This encourages users to recognize and use the operands in the simple form, and solves the problem of whether to replicate the advanced elements on the results page. * If you want to add help text on advanced operands, you'll find some in SQL Search * By providing a link for advanced search for each content type, it's possible to limit the taxonomy terms to vocabularies associated with that content type. * Have a look at the filtering within results (by both content type and category). You might want to do something similar, or else I'd be happy to contribute a port of that to core after your patch hits. In general, the new approach seems to move the core search module closer to what's done in SQL Search--that is, relying on native SQL matching rather than custom indexing. It may make sense to phase out SQL Search, and possibly introduce the options (native MySQL full text indexing, etc.) into the core module. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wed, 10 Aug 2005 01:15:14 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_5.patch (43.99 KB) Keeping up to date.
Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/28159 Post a follow up: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/28159 Project: Drupal Version: cvs Component: search.module Category: feature requests Priority: normal Assigned to: Steven Reported by: Steven Updated by: jsaints Status: patch (code needs review) I have made a patch to the search module to restrict searching within given taxonomies. I thought that this might be of use to you. See http://drupal.org/node/28933 jsaints Previous comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 00:46:49 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_2.patch (37.05 KB) Here's my promised search patch. It's not 100% commit ready yet, but it's time to sollicit some feedback and get this tested ;). Note that this patch requires a db update, which will wipe the search index. You will then need to call cron.php enough times for the site to be indexed completely again. This could take a while for large databases, but you can control the throttle and see the progress at admin/settings/search. *Features* * AND keyword matching by default ('all of the words'), instead of OR ('any of the words'). * OR support through keyword1 OR keyword2 OR ... * Phrase searching through "quoted strings". * Negative matching through -"minus prefix" -word. * Restrict search by taxonomy or node type(s) using taxonomy:1,2 and type:blog,page. The options are built-into the keyword string through a google like syntax, but there is an expandable "advanced settings" form below the search box which acts as a 'query builder': This example will result in the following search string (of course not a practical example): test type:forum,story category:1 "tinky winky" OR "dipsy" -"uh oh" "teletubby bye bye" On a different note, I removed the wildcard matching. An important reason is that there were significant performance problems with leading wildcards. Such queries were not be able to use any indices, and the resulting full-table scan took a long time. Even Google does not have intra-word wildcards, theirs can only be used as placeholders for entire words in phrases. Trailing wildcards on the other hand are usually used to accomodate grammatical variations on a word. But, wildcards are not really the best tool for this as this puts a burden on the user. If you need this feature, you should instead tie in an algorithm like the Porter Stemmer through the search_preprocess hook. That way you can reduce related words to a single common root (e.g. "walker" "walking" "walked" to "walk"). The search system will then index and search on the reduced words. You will even benefit from a reduced database size because there are less unique words. Because such algorithms are very language specific, I didn't build in any. But it should be trivial to make a Porter Stemmer module for Drupal search, which can be used on english sites. *Database* To implement the above searches, I added a 'search_dataset' table that is independent of the keyword index. Each dataset row contains the entire contents of the indexed item, but filtered, cleaned up and reduced to space-sparated tokens (words, numbers, dates, ...). This table is used to resolve the exact conditions, which means the keyword index is not as essential anymore. Because searches are AND by default, the OR method of search_index acts as an initial filter to eliminate the majority of items immediately. That subset is then further reduced through the search_dataset table. All of this means that the search_index table can now be indexed at a much higher minimum word lenght (e.g. 5), which means a reduced database size. Even with the new dataset table, the net database size shrinks slightly. I also implemented the searching as two selects into temporary tables. This allows me to avoid doing a costly counting query for the pager and a range-limited query for the actual results. I added support for temporary tables to database.(my|pg)sql. The db api itself takes a normal SELECT and a table name, and turns it into an appropriate platform specific temporary table query (CREATE TABLE ... AS, CREATE TABLE ... SELECT). I still need to do detailed benchmarking, but at least for the same queries as before, this patch should be faster. Of course, pre-patch, all searches were OR, not AND, so a direct comparison needs to take this into account (the pre-patch query "drupal theme development" is now "drupal OR theme OR development"). One feature request that I did not do is date based searching (before X/X/X, after X/X/X), mostly because we don't have a good date widget yet. I've been toying with making a simple in-page JS data picker, but it's not done yet and I think the patch is good enough already. Date restrictions can be added on later without any problems. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 01:27:29 +0000 : Steven Oh and in case this wasn't clear, the syntax of putting extra conditions into the search keywords ("type:blog") means that each search result page can be linked to directly. They all have clean URLs: search/node/type:blog+keyword for example. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 02:34:38 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch (37.05 KB) Sorry, the patch was malformed because wincvs wrapped those really long preg classes :P. Fixed patch attached. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:28:14 +0000 : stevryn This looks great, cant wait till its fully ready. I tried trip_search, but couldnt get it to work, and the regular search definately needed some better features! I would like to test it, but I have no idea how to apply a patch. Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it? Tx T ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:23:08 +0000 : webchick
Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it?
I can help you there, I think. Follow step 2 here if you don't already have a CVS version of Drupal up and running (you can't use this patch against 4.6.2, for example): http://www.planetsoc.com/node/164 Then, switch to your Drupal CVS root directory, for example: cd ~/drupal-cvs Use wget to retrieve a copy of the most recent patch (in this case, search_3.patch): wget http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch Execute the following command to apply the patch to your Drupal installation: patch -p0 -u < search_3.patch This will patch all the files with the updated search. Then go through the normal steps you would go through to get a new Drupal system up and running. Step 3 of the aforementioned link has some info on how to get a table prefix going if you want to keep this test version separate from your "normal" Drupal installation. My problem is I've done all of this, but am still getting strange errors (even on a "normal" unpatched version of the search), so I need to figure out if I have a problem on my end or what's going on. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:27:52 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org @Jeremy: Sorting by two fields does not seem to work. @Moshe: This code does not rely on the fact that wid is an auto_increment field in any way. Just some concerns did. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:29:28 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org Oops, that comment should have been for another issue. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:49:36 +0000 : matt_paz It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:50:11 +0000 : matt_paz Nice addition! It seems to be working great. It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 17:20:48 +0000 : stevryn Thanks webchick! I have it working now. Great work Steven, my live site is 4.6.1, I havent wanted to take the great leap and update, last time I did it was *not* pretty. I assume this will work with that version once its completed and submitted? Seriously the search functionality needs this sort of advanced features!! Tx for all your work! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:19:51 +0000 : Kobus Hi! Like the previous replier to this post, I can't apply patches myself, but simply because I don't do it frequently enough, and forgot how to do it, but I will catch up with this and test if I get a chance. In principle this is a great patch! Definate +1. I have another feature (not sure it belongs to this thread, so if not, I apologize) that I would love to see in the search module. That is to provide hooks so that you can create a customized search form, for example, I need the following three field sets in a search form for a property website: * Price range "Start price" -> "End price", using some MIN() and MAX() functions if the user selects the wrong way around. (dropdowns with certain ranges). * Area where the property is supposed to be located in (taxonomy category). * Features that the property MUST have, for example, your requirement would be "TWO BATHROOMS" or "FOUR BEDROOMS". (Search through checkboxes, radios and text fields that was defined in the "property.module" file and database structure. (This module is written by an amateur (me), that's why not contributed, but, should there be interest in it, I will contribute it.) These extra search forms would be way different for each different application, so I don't expect the search module to be able to actually do this, but at least to provide functionality that a coder can write such an extension in his module, in other words, the queries that will define the search, and the form that the user will see, should be definable in the module, and called instead of the default search form if required. Will this be possible at all? Regards, Kobus ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:42:59 +0000 : lgarfiel @Kobus: Actually you can do that now. See the Location module for an example of a fully custom search function. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:59:25 +0000 : Kobus Hi! Thanks lgarfiel. I have downloaded the module and will play around with it over the weekend. Regards, Kobus ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 10:11:35 +0000 : Bèr Kessels * my update failed. You had/have a problem in update.inc in the updates/callback array. I had-modified the database and it works fine now. * I am not happy with the 5 character default limit. It took me quite some time to find out why my words were not indexed. But that should not hold back this patch. More somthing to have acloser look for in teh future. I think of intelligent auto-blackslisting or so. * When I do an advanced search, teh resutlts are primted in the box: very good!. But my advaced form is emty. That is no good udability, imo. That form should represent what I was searching for. * I still do not like he way results are returned by default: "weblink - Bèr Kessels - 05/08/2005 - 14:20 - 0 comments" is far too much data. And i even have "do not show data for foo", set in the theme settings! can we please re-thing the *default* styles for search results? Without all the CSS bloat, and without all the details? Why not go for a default teaser vew? $node->title = $title //the name, subject or title of teh element $node->teaser = $content // teh nice highlighted data of search result body That way it wil be consisten tih teh rest of the site, save a *lot* of code and be better theamble too. * "your serach yielded no results" should be a set_message. Yes, we discussed that it should be in the place where ppl look for the results. but I tried it, and it is just as visible above the search as below! really. (see screenie) Overall, i think introducing a complex search is very nice. And i think this is a great step forward. But I much rather see, this being implemented in a MUCH easier API as well as MUCH easier hooks. preprocessing as a single hook. What /is/ preprocessing? form, index, etc in one hook? why put preprocess ii a single hook, but the others on one huge nodapi alike construction? What do they do, these nodeapi things? Why do I need them and when do I need them? I say this, because I spent hours with and hours trial-and-error methods to get some form of advanced flexinode search going. The current system is just to hard to grok for an average developer like me. I know these things are easy to say, but very hard to implement. But as long as we cannot allow searching for the obvious data people see (I am sure I read that that search guru has winamp as favorite, why can't i find his username when i search for winamp) I think we should be carefull with extending the search into advanced search. Can we not first think of a general solution, one that will fix ALL drupals search problems and then dive into advanced searching, that will make it even more complex? Steven: I still think you did a marvelous job! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 13:25:45 +0000 : Steven "* When I do an advanced search, teh resutlts are printed in the box: very good!. But my advaced form is emty. That is no good udability, imo. That form should represent what I was searching for. " I debated over how to implement this, and I went for the current method of not showing anything in the advanced form. The first reason is that parsing a query back into the advanced options is not generally possible. For example, you could have more than one phrase in your query, yet the query builder only accomodates one for simplicity. It is a tool, not a complete equivalent to the keyword syntax. Secondly, there is a conflict between what is in the keywords box and what is in the advanced form. For example, I might build an advanced query, and then start modifying the 'baked in' keyword version. At that point we need to decide which takes precedence, and arguments can be found for both sides. At first I tried to reconcile this by only respecting the advanced controls if you pressed "advanced search", but then there is ambiguity of which button to default to if the user submits the form by pressing enter. I also thought of making it so that the query builder always adds to the keywords (ignoring duplicates), but that means you can't loosen a query except by manually removing parts of the keywords box /and/ manually unchecking the options in the advanced form. After trying out the various options, I found that the usability of the current method is the clearest and results in the least amount of inconsistencies perceived as 'buggy behaviour'. "What /is/ preprocessing? why put preprocess ii a single hook, but the others on one huge nodapi alike construction? " Preprocessing is what it says: a transformation applied to text before it is inserted in and matched against the search index. You can use it to add in stemming algorithms, soundex as well as word-splitting for non-spaced languages like Chinese and Japanese. As for why to put it in a separate hook: for performance reasons. "I am not happy with the 5 character default limit. It took me quite some time to find out why my words were not indexed. But that should not hold back this patch. More somthing to have acloser look for in teh future. I think of intelligent auto-blackslisting or so. " About the limit: it only has any effect if none of the words in your search query is 5 letters or longer. As soon as one word in the query is 5 letters, all results can be found. Judging from drupal.org searches, this was a correct trade-off to make. If you introduce a stemming algorithm through the preprocessor, you can probably afford to set the size limit smaller. But until then, imo 5 is a good default. About intelligent blacklisting: this is not really possible. The goal of blacklisting is to keep the index size down. But to find out which words to blacklist, you need to include them in some sort of index. Chicken and egg. "Can we not first think of a general solution, one that will fix ALL drupals search problems and then dive into advanced searching, that will make it even more complex? " I await your proposals. But until people start getting involved in the architecture rather than just bombarding me with feature-requests and saying that 'search sucks', I can only do things my way. In fact, the biggest complexity hurdle right now is simply that search is optional. This means that all search operations should go through search.module. Modules with 100% custom searches on the other hand can simply put a tab on "search/module" and do everything their way. But that means that that tab will be there even if search.module is disabled and that these modules cannot take advantage of the various utility functions provided by search.module. For example, searching profile fields for user search is perfectly possible even without this patch, though it would require that the user search be moved into profile.module. A nodeapi-like system where profile.module can add to user.module's search would only result in huge joins and queries being added to other queries en-masse. The code would be even more complex than it is now. As far as the hook_search ops, I'm sorry but I think they are quite clear. I specifically added comments to node_search to explain each op when this would not be done normally (e.g. everyone is assumed to know that nodeapi('validate') is used to validate extra node fields): 'name': return the name of this search 'search': perform a search (new) 'form': add form items to the standard 'enter your keywords' search (new) 'post': process a search form and inject the parameters into the keyword string (needed because of the clean URLs) And only for index-using modules: 'reset': reset the indexing progress 'status': return status of the indexing progress (% completed) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 15:19:57 +0000 : Bèr Kessels Thanks. So lets get teh focus back on the patch then. And move my proposal for a new search architecture to new thread; http://drupal.org/node/28275 I agree about the complexity of re-filling the search box. But still, it somehow gfeels odd that its not fileld anymore. Its a usability no-no to do that, though your rationale for not filling it makes more sense. Maybe we just need to rething the interface in general then? Does anyone s"ee any other options? Put adv.search in a tab advanced could be an option: but that might be a no-no because we hide it away then. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 21:57:44 +0000 : matt_paz I have the code running at http://connect.educause.edu "100% of the site has been indexed." Minimum word length to index: 4 Nonetheless, I'm getting mixed results. If I search for 'Hawkins' I get no results ... even though I know (I think) it should be indexing the word hawkins from the body of this content ... http://connect.educause.edu/blog/mpasiewicz/317 Any ideas? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 22:42:22 +0000 : cyberchucktx Looks greeat! I may give it a shot this weekend ... and since I'm using Civicspace i'll be really daring and try it out within that system as well. I haven't read *all* the comments yet .. but would be it possible to do some admin work to setup different search types similar to the "Input Formats" section? By this I mean that different search types could "lock down" various parts of the interface to restrict the search to specific categories ... Charlie ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 08 Aug 2005 21:24:30 +0000 : matt_paz sorry, the link for the example where the text does exist should have been ... http://connect.educause.edu/blog/mpasiewicz/podcast_coverage_of_brian_hawkin... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 08 Aug 2005 22:37:43 +0000 : Ballie Carefull when using temporary tables: not all hosting companies might give their users the necessary privilege. (Mine doesn't even give me LOCK TABLES privilege.) ""From MySQL 4.0.2 on, you must have the CREATE TEMPORARY TABLES privilege to be able to create temporary tables."(MySQL Reference Manual) " Maybe we should provide an (slower, but working) alternative, so that they don't get an ugly error message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, 09 Aug 2005 04:28:36 +0000 : nedjo Nice work Steven. These advanced operands are a great addition. If you haven't already, you might wish to look at how I've implemented some of these advanced search functionalities in SQL Search (formerly trip search). Specifically: * While it's handy having advanced as a form group right on the search form, all in all I think it's better to have "advanced" as a separate page. Google is a good guide here. The advanced page feeds into a search results with just the simple form, containing any advanced operands. This encourages users to recognize and use the operands in the simple form, and solves the problem of whether to replicate the advanced elements on the results page. * If you want to add help text on advanced operands, you'll find some in SQL Search * By providing a link for advanced search for each content type, it's possible to limit the taxonomy terms to vocabularies associated with that content type. * Have a look at the filtering within results (by both content type and category). You might want to do something similar, or else I'd be happy to contribute a port of that to core after your patch hits. In general, the new approach seems to move the core search module closer to what's done in SQL Search--that is, relying on native SQL matching rather than custom indexing. It may make sense to phase out SQL Search, and possibly introduce the options (native MySQL full text indexing, etc.) into the core module. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wed, 10 Aug 2005 01:15:14 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_5.patch (43.99 KB) Keeping up to date. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 15 Aug 2005 20:39:47 +0000 : levavie Recent results must appear first. Please order the search by *decending date order*. Have you tried to search drupal for info lately? Then you will understand what I mean. Tons of results for 2002 and 2003 are mixed with recent results. Amnon - Personal: Bring Dolphin's Simple Joy to your Work - Job - Career Professional: Small Business Web Hosting Strategies, Drupal Consulting / Drupal Hebrew Translation
Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/28159 Post a follow up: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/28159 Project: Drupal Version: cvs Component: search.module Category: feature requests Priority: normal Assigned to: Steven Reported by: Steven Updated by: Bèr Kessels Status: patch (code needs review) Do not change the title, unless you have a good reason to! Bèr Kessels Previous comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 00:46:49 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_2.patch (37.05 KB) Here's my promised search patch. It's not 100% commit ready yet, but it's time to sollicit some feedback and get this tested ;). Note that this patch requires a db update, which will wipe the search index. You will then need to call cron.php enough times for the site to be indexed completely again. This could take a while for large databases, but you can control the throttle and see the progress at admin/settings/search. *Features* * AND keyword matching by default ('all of the words'), instead of OR ('any of the words'). * OR support through keyword1 OR keyword2 OR ... * Phrase searching through "quoted strings". * Negative matching through -"minus prefix" -word. * Restrict search by taxonomy or node type(s) using taxonomy:1,2 and type:blog,page. The options are built-into the keyword string through a google like syntax, but there is an expandable "advanced settings" form below the search box which acts as a 'query builder': This example will result in the following search string (of course not a practical example): test type:forum,story category:1 "tinky winky" OR "dipsy" -"uh oh" "teletubby bye bye" On a different note, I removed the wildcard matching. An important reason is that there were significant performance problems with leading wildcards. Such queries were not be able to use any indices, and the resulting full-table scan took a long time. Even Google does not have intra-word wildcards, theirs can only be used as placeholders for entire words in phrases. Trailing wildcards on the other hand are usually used to accomodate grammatical variations on a word. But, wildcards are not really the best tool for this as this puts a burden on the user. If you need this feature, you should instead tie in an algorithm like the Porter Stemmer through the search_preprocess hook. That way you can reduce related words to a single common root (e.g. "walker" "walking" "walked" to "walk"). The search system will then index and search on the reduced words. You will even benefit from a reduced database size because there are less unique words. Because such algorithms are very language specific, I didn't build in any. But it should be trivial to make a Porter Stemmer module for Drupal search, which can be used on english sites. *Database* To implement the above searches, I added a 'search_dataset' table that is independent of the keyword index. Each dataset row contains the entire contents of the indexed item, but filtered, cleaned up and reduced to space-sparated tokens (words, numbers, dates, ...). This table is used to resolve the exact conditions, which means the keyword index is not as essential anymore. Because searches are AND by default, the OR method of search_index acts as an initial filter to eliminate the majority of items immediately. That subset is then further reduced through the search_dataset table. All of this means that the search_index table can now be indexed at a much higher minimum word lenght (e.g. 5), which means a reduced database size. Even with the new dataset table, the net database size shrinks slightly. I also implemented the searching as two selects into temporary tables. This allows me to avoid doing a costly counting query for the pager and a range-limited query for the actual results. I added support for temporary tables to database.(my|pg)sql. The db api itself takes a normal SELECT and a table name, and turns it into an appropriate platform specific temporary table query (CREATE TABLE ... AS, CREATE TABLE ... SELECT). I still need to do detailed benchmarking, but at least for the same queries as before, this patch should be faster. Of course, pre-patch, all searches were OR, not AND, so a direct comparison needs to take this into account (the pre-patch query "drupal theme development" is now "drupal OR theme OR development"). One feature request that I did not do is date based searching (before X/X/X, after X/X/X), mostly because we don't have a good date widget yet. I've been toying with making a simple in-page JS data picker, but it's not done yet and I think the patch is good enough already. Date restrictions can be added on later without any problems. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 01:27:29 +0000 : Steven Oh and in case this wasn't clear, the syntax of putting extra conditions into the search keywords ("type:blog") means that each search result page can be linked to directly. They all have clean URLs: search/node/type:blog+keyword for example. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 02:34:38 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch (37.05 KB) Sorry, the patch was malformed because wincvs wrapped those really long preg classes :P. Fixed patch attached. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:28:14 +0000 : stevryn This looks great, cant wait till its fully ready. I tried trip_search, but couldnt get it to work, and the regular search definately needed some better features! I would like to test it, but I have no idea how to apply a patch. Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it? Tx T ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:23:08 +0000 : webchick
Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it?
I can help you there, I think. Follow step 2 here if you don't already have a CVS version of Drupal up and running (you can't use this patch against 4.6.2, for example): http://www.planetsoc.com/node/164 Then, switch to your Drupal CVS root directory, for example: cd ~/drupal-cvs Use wget to retrieve a copy of the most recent patch (in this case, search_3.patch): wget http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch Execute the following command to apply the patch to your Drupal installation: patch -p0 -u < search_3.patch This will patch all the files with the updated search. Then go through the normal steps you would go through to get a new Drupal system up and running. Step 3 of the aforementioned link has some info on how to get a table prefix going if you want to keep this test version separate from your "normal" Drupal installation. My problem is I've done all of this, but am still getting strange errors (even on a "normal" unpatched version of the search), so I need to figure out if I have a problem on my end or what's going on. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:27:52 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org @Jeremy: Sorting by two fields does not seem to work. @Moshe: This code does not rely on the fact that wid is an auto_increment field in any way. Just some concerns did. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:29:28 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org Oops, that comment should have been for another issue. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:49:36 +0000 : matt_paz It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:50:11 +0000 : matt_paz Nice addition! It seems to be working great. It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 17:20:48 +0000 : stevryn Thanks webchick! I have it working now. Great work Steven, my live site is 4.6.1, I havent wanted to take the great leap and update, last time I did it was *not* pretty. I assume this will work with that version once its completed and submitted? Seriously the search functionality needs this sort of advanced features!! Tx for all your work! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:19:51 +0000 : Kobus Hi! Like the previous replier to this post, I can't apply patches myself, but simply because I don't do it frequently enough, and forgot how to do it, but I will catch up with this and test if I get a chance. In principle this is a great patch! Definate +1. I have another feature (not sure it belongs to this thread, so if not, I apologize) that I would love to see in the search module. That is to provide hooks so that you can create a customized search form, for example, I need the following three field sets in a search form for a property website: * Price range "Start price" -> "End price", using some MIN() and MAX() functions if the user selects the wrong way around. (dropdowns with certain ranges). * Area where the property is supposed to be located in (taxonomy category). * Features that the property MUST have, for example, your requirement would be "TWO BATHROOMS" or "FOUR BEDROOMS". (Search through checkboxes, radios and text fields that was defined in the "property.module" file and database structure. (This module is written by an amateur (me), that's why not contributed, but, should there be interest in it, I will contribute it.) These extra search forms would be way different for each different application, so I don't expect the search module to be able to actually do this, but at least to provide functionality that a coder can write such an extension in his module, in other words, the queries that will define the search, and the form that the user will see, should be definable in the module, and called instead of the default search form if required. Will this be possible at all? Regards, Kobus ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:42:59 +0000 : Crell @Kobus: Actually you can do that now. See the Location module for an example of a fully custom search function. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:59:25 +0000 : Kobus Hi! Thanks lgarfiel. I have downloaded the module and will play around with it over the weekend. Regards, Kobus ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 10:11:35 +0000 : Bèr Kessels * my update failed. You had/have a problem in update.inc in the updates/callback array. I had-modified the database and it works fine now. * I am not happy with the 5 character default limit. It took me quite some time to find out why my words were not indexed. But that should not hold back this patch. More somthing to have acloser look for in teh future. I think of intelligent auto-blackslisting or so. * When I do an advanced search, teh resutlts are primted in the box: very good!. But my advaced form is emty. That is no good udability, imo. That form should represent what I was searching for. * I still do not like he way results are returned by default: "weblink - Bèr Kessels - 05/08/2005 - 14:20 - 0 comments" is far too much data. And i even have "do not show data for foo", set in the theme settings! can we please re-thing the *default* styles for search results? Without all the CSS bloat, and without all the details? Why not go for a default teaser vew? $node->title = $title //the name, subject or title of teh element $node->teaser = $content // teh nice highlighted data of search result body That way it wil be consisten tih teh rest of the site, save a *lot* of code and be better theamble too. * "your serach yielded no results" should be a set_message. Yes, we discussed that it should be in the place where ppl look for the results. but I tried it, and it is just as visible above the search as below! really. (see screenie) Overall, i think introducing a complex search is very nice. And i think this is a great step forward. But I much rather see, this being implemented in a MUCH easier API as well as MUCH easier hooks. preprocessing as a single hook. What /is/ preprocessing? form, index, etc in one hook? why put preprocess ii a single hook, but the others on one huge nodapi alike construction? What do they do, these nodeapi things? Why do I need them and when do I need them? I say this, because I spent hours with and hours trial-and-error methods to get some form of advanced flexinode search going. The current system is just to hard to grok for an average developer like me. I know these things are easy to say, but very hard to implement. But as long as we cannot allow searching for the obvious data people see (I am sure I read that that search guru has winamp as favorite, why can't i find his username when i search for winamp) I think we should be carefull with extending the search into advanced search. Can we not first think of a general solution, one that will fix ALL drupals search problems and then dive into advanced searching, that will make it even more complex? Steven: I still think you did a marvelous job! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 13:25:45 +0000 : Steven "* When I do an advanced search, teh resutlts are printed in the box: very good!. But my advaced form is emty. That is no good udability, imo. That form should represent what I was searching for. " I debated over how to implement this, and I went for the current method of not showing anything in the advanced form. The first reason is that parsing a query back into the advanced options is not generally possible. For example, you could have more than one phrase in your query, yet the query builder only accomodates one for simplicity. It is a tool, not a complete equivalent to the keyword syntax. Secondly, there is a conflict between what is in the keywords box and what is in the advanced form. For example, I might build an advanced query, and then start modifying the 'baked in' keyword version. At that point we need to decide which takes precedence, and arguments can be found for both sides. At first I tried to reconcile this by only respecting the advanced controls if you pressed "advanced search", but then there is ambiguity of which button to default to if the user submits the form by pressing enter. I also thought of making it so that the query builder always adds to the keywords (ignoring duplicates), but that means you can't loosen a query except by manually removing parts of the keywords box /and/ manually unchecking the options in the advanced form. After trying out the various options, I found that the usability of the current method is the clearest and results in the least amount of inconsistencies perceived as 'buggy behaviour'. "What /is/ preprocessing? why put preprocess ii a single hook, but the others on one huge nodapi alike construction? " Preprocessing is what it says: a transformation applied to text before it is inserted in and matched against the search index. You can use it to add in stemming algorithms, soundex as well as word-splitting for non-spaced languages like Chinese and Japanese. As for why to put it in a separate hook: for performance reasons. "I am not happy with the 5 character default limit. It took me quite some time to find out why my words were not indexed. But that should not hold back this patch. More somthing to have acloser look for in teh future. I think of intelligent auto-blackslisting or so. " About the limit: it only has any effect if none of the words in your search query is 5 letters or longer. As soon as one word in the query is 5 letters, all results can be found. Judging from drupal.org searches, this was a correct trade-off to make. If you introduce a stemming algorithm through the preprocessor, you can probably afford to set the size limit smaller. But until then, imo 5 is a good default. About intelligent blacklisting: this is not really possible. The goal of blacklisting is to keep the index size down. But to find out which words to blacklist, you need to include them in some sort of index. Chicken and egg. "Can we not first think of a general solution, one that will fix ALL drupals search problems and then dive into advanced searching, that will make it even more complex? " I await your proposals. But until people start getting involved in the architecture rather than just bombarding me with feature-requests and saying that 'search sucks', I can only do things my way. In fact, the biggest complexity hurdle right now is simply that search is optional. This means that all search operations should go through search.module. Modules with 100% custom searches on the other hand can simply put a tab on "search/module" and do everything their way. But that means that that tab will be there even if search.module is disabled and that these modules cannot take advantage of the various utility functions provided by search.module. For example, searching profile fields for user search is perfectly possible even without this patch, though it would require that the user search be moved into profile.module. A nodeapi-like system where profile.module can add to user.module's search would only result in huge joins and queries being added to other queries en-masse. The code would be even more complex than it is now. As far as the hook_search ops, I'm sorry but I think they are quite clear. I specifically added comments to node_search to explain each op when this would not be done normally (e.g. everyone is assumed to know that nodeapi('validate') is used to validate extra node fields): 'name': return the name of this search 'search': perform a search (new) 'form': add form items to the standard 'enter your keywords' search (new) 'post': process a search form and inject the parameters into the keyword string (needed because of the clean URLs) And only for index-using modules: 'reset': reset the indexing progress 'status': return status of the indexing progress (% completed) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 15:19:57 +0000 : Bèr Kessels Thanks. So lets get teh focus back on the patch then. And move my proposal for a new search architecture to new thread; http://drupal.org/node/28275 I agree about the complexity of re-filling the search box. But still, it somehow gfeels odd that its not fileld anymore. Its a usability no-no to do that, though your rationale for not filling it makes more sense. Maybe we just need to rething the interface in general then? Does anyone s"ee any other options? Put adv.search in a tab advanced could be an option: but that might be a no-no because we hide it away then. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 21:57:44 +0000 : matt_paz I have the code running at http://connect.educause.edu "100% of the site has been indexed." Minimum word length to index: 4 Nonetheless, I'm getting mixed results. If I search for 'Hawkins' I get no results ... even though I know (I think) it should be indexing the word hawkins from the body of this content ... http://connect.educause.edu/blog/mpasiewicz/317 Any ideas? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 22:42:22 +0000 : cyberchucktx Looks greeat! I may give it a shot this weekend ... and since I'm using Civicspace i'll be really daring and try it out within that system as well. I haven't read *all* the comments yet .. but would be it possible to do some admin work to setup different search types similar to the "Input Formats" section? By this I mean that different search types could "lock down" various parts of the interface to restrict the search to specific categories ... Charlie ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 08 Aug 2005 21:24:30 +0000 : matt_paz sorry, the link for the example where the text does exist should have been ... http://connect.educause.edu/blog/mpasiewicz/podcast_coverage_of_brian_hawkin... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 08 Aug 2005 22:37:43 +0000 : Ballie Carefull when using temporary tables: not all hosting companies might give their users the necessary privilege. (Mine doesn't even give me LOCK TABLES privilege.) ""From MySQL 4.0.2 on, you must have the CREATE TEMPORARY TABLES privilege to be able to create temporary tables."(MySQL Reference Manual) " Maybe we should provide an (slower, but working) alternative, so that they don't get an ugly error message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, 09 Aug 2005 04:28:36 +0000 : nedjo Nice work Steven. These advanced operands are a great addition. If you haven't already, you might wish to look at how I've implemented some of these advanced search functionalities in SQL Search (formerly trip search). Specifically: * While it's handy having advanced as a form group right on the search form, all in all I think it's better to have "advanced" as a separate page. Google is a good guide here. The advanced page feeds into a search results with just the simple form, containing any advanced operands. This encourages users to recognize and use the operands in the simple form, and solves the problem of whether to replicate the advanced elements on the results page. * If you want to add help text on advanced operands, you'll find some in SQL Search * By providing a link for advanced search for each content type, it's possible to limit the taxonomy terms to vocabularies associated with that content type. * Have a look at the filtering within results (by both content type and category). You might want to do something similar, or else I'd be happy to contribute a port of that to core after your patch hits. In general, the new approach seems to move the core search module closer to what's done in SQL Search--that is, relying on native SQL matching rather than custom indexing. It may make sense to phase out SQL Search, and possibly introduce the options (native MySQL full text indexing, etc.) into the core module. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wed, 10 Aug 2005 01:15:14 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_5.patch (43.99 KB) Keeping up to date. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 15 Aug 2005 20:39:47 +0000 : levavie Recent results must appear first. Please order the search by *decending date order*. Have you tried to search drupal for info lately? Then you will understand what I mean. Tons of results for 2002 and 2003 are mixed with recent results. Amnon - Personal: Bring Dolphin's Simple Joy to your Work - Job - Career Professional: Small Business Web Hosting Strategies, Drupal Consulting / Drupal Hebrew Translation ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 15 Aug 2005 20:49:09 +0000 : jsaints I have made a patch to the search module to restrict searching within given taxonomies. I thought that this might be of use to you. See http://drupal.org/node/28933
Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/28159 Post a follow up: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/28159 Project: Drupal Version: cvs Component: search.module Category: feature requests Priority: normal Assigned to: Steven Reported by: Steven Updated by: jakeg Status: patch (code needs review) I can't get the patch to work against HEAD. I get erros about failed hunks, malformed patch at line 443 etc. I'd really love to see this make 4.7. Also, I agree that search could be ordered by modified date. jakeg Previous comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 00:46:49 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_2.patch (37.05 KB) Here's my promised search patch. It's not 100% commit ready yet, but it's time to sollicit some feedback and get this tested ;). Note that this patch requires a db update, which will wipe the search index. You will then need to call cron.php enough times for the site to be indexed completely again. This could take a while for large databases, but you can control the throttle and see the progress at admin/settings/search. *Features* * AND keyword matching by default ('all of the words'), instead of OR ('any of the words'). * OR support through keyword1 OR keyword2 OR ... * Phrase searching through "quoted strings". * Negative matching through -"minus prefix" -word. * Restrict search by taxonomy or node type(s) using taxonomy:1,2 and type:blog,page. The options are built-into the keyword string through a google like syntax, but there is an expandable "advanced settings" form below the search box which acts as a 'query builder': This example will result in the following search string (of course not a practical example): test type:forum,story category:1 "tinky winky" OR "dipsy" -"uh oh" "teletubby bye bye" On a different note, I removed the wildcard matching. An important reason is that there were significant performance problems with leading wildcards. Such queries were not be able to use any indices, and the resulting full-table scan took a long time. Even Google does not have intra-word wildcards, theirs can only be used as placeholders for entire words in phrases. Trailing wildcards on the other hand are usually used to accomodate grammatical variations on a word. But, wildcards are not really the best tool for this as this puts a burden on the user. If you need this feature, you should instead tie in an algorithm like the Porter Stemmer through the search_preprocess hook. That way you can reduce related words to a single common root (e.g. "walker" "walking" "walked" to "walk"). The search system will then index and search on the reduced words. You will even benefit from a reduced database size because there are less unique words. Because such algorithms are very language specific, I didn't build in any. But it should be trivial to make a Porter Stemmer module for Drupal search, which can be used on english sites. *Database* To implement the above searches, I added a 'search_dataset' table that is independent of the keyword index. Each dataset row contains the entire contents of the indexed item, but filtered, cleaned up and reduced to space-sparated tokens (words, numbers, dates, ...). This table is used to resolve the exact conditions, which means the keyword index is not as essential anymore. Because searches are AND by default, the OR method of search_index acts as an initial filter to eliminate the majority of items immediately. That subset is then further reduced through the search_dataset table. All of this means that the search_index table can now be indexed at a much higher minimum word lenght (e.g. 5), which means a reduced database size. Even with the new dataset table, the net database size shrinks slightly. I also implemented the searching as two selects into temporary tables. This allows me to avoid doing a costly counting query for the pager and a range-limited query for the actual results. I added support for temporary tables to database.(my|pg)sql. The db api itself takes a normal SELECT and a table name, and turns it into an appropriate platform specific temporary table query (CREATE TABLE ... AS, CREATE TABLE ... SELECT). I still need to do detailed benchmarking, but at least for the same queries as before, this patch should be faster. Of course, pre-patch, all searches were OR, not AND, so a direct comparison needs to take this into account (the pre-patch query "drupal theme development" is now "drupal OR theme OR development"). One feature request that I did not do is date based searching (before X/X/X, after X/X/X), mostly because we don't have a good date widget yet. I've been toying with making a simple in-page JS data picker, but it's not done yet and I think the patch is good enough already. Date restrictions can be added on later without any problems. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 01:27:29 +0000 : Steven Oh and in case this wasn't clear, the syntax of putting extra conditions into the search keywords ("type:blog") means that each search result page can be linked to directly. They all have clean URLs: search/node/type:blog+keyword for example. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 02:34:38 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch (37.05 KB) Sorry, the patch was malformed because wincvs wrapped those really long preg classes :P. Fixed patch attached. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:28:14 +0000 : stevryn This looks great, cant wait till its fully ready. I tried trip_search, but couldnt get it to work, and the regular search definately needed some better features! I would like to test it, but I have no idea how to apply a patch. Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it? Tx T ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:23:08 +0000 : webchick
Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it?
I can help you there, I think. Follow step 2 here if you don't already have a CVS version of Drupal up and running (you can't use this patch against 4.6.2, for example): http://www.planetsoc.com/node/164 Then, switch to your Drupal CVS root directory, for example: cd ~/drupal-cvs Use wget to retrieve a copy of the most recent patch (in this case, search_3.patch): wget http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch Execute the following command to apply the patch to your Drupal installation: patch -p0 -u < search_3.patch This will patch all the files with the updated search. Then go through the normal steps you would go through to get a new Drupal system up and running. Step 3 of the aforementioned link has some info on how to get a table prefix going if you want to keep this test version separate from your "normal" Drupal installation. My problem is I've done all of this, but am still getting strange errors (even on a "normal" unpatched version of the search), so I need to figure out if I have a problem on my end or what's going on. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:27:52 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org @Jeremy: Sorting by two fields does not seem to work. @Moshe: This code does not rely on the fact that wid is an auto_increment field in any way. Just some concerns did. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:29:28 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org Oops, that comment should have been for another issue. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:49:36 +0000 : matt_paz It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:50:11 +0000 : matt_paz Nice addition! It seems to be working great. It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 17:20:48 +0000 : stevryn Thanks webchick! I have it working now. Great work Steven, my live site is 4.6.1, I havent wanted to take the great leap and update, last time I did it was *not* pretty. I assume this will work with that version once its completed and submitted? Seriously the search functionality needs this sort of advanced features!! Tx for all your work! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:19:51 +0000 : Kobus Hi! Like the previous replier to this post, I can't apply patches myself, but simply because I don't do it frequently enough, and forgot how to do it, but I will catch up with this and test if I get a chance. In principle this is a great patch! Definate +1. I have another feature (not sure it belongs to this thread, so if not, I apologize) that I would love to see in the search module. That is to provide hooks so that you can create a customized search form, for example, I need the following three field sets in a search form for a property website: * Price range "Start price" -> "End price", using some MIN() and MAX() functions if the user selects the wrong way around. (dropdowns with certain ranges). * Area where the property is supposed to be located in (taxonomy category). * Features that the property MUST have, for example, your requirement would be "TWO BATHROOMS" or "FOUR BEDROOMS". (Search through checkboxes, radios and text fields that was defined in the "property.module" file and database structure. (This module is written by an amateur (me), that's why not contributed, but, should there be interest in it, I will contribute it.) These extra search forms would be way different for each different application, so I don't expect the search module to be able to actually do this, but at least to provide functionality that a coder can write such an extension in his module, in other words, the queries that will define the search, and the form that the user will see, should be definable in the module, and called instead of the default search form if required. Will this be possible at all? Regards, Kobus ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:42:59 +0000 : Crell @Kobus: Actually you can do that now. See the Location module for an example of a fully custom search function. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:59:25 +0000 : Kobus Hi! Thanks lgarfiel. I have downloaded the module and will play around with it over the weekend. Regards, Kobus ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 10:11:35 +0000 : Bèr Kessels * my update failed. You had/have a problem in update.inc in the updates/callback array. I had-modified the database and it works fine now. * I am not happy with the 5 character default limit. It took me quite some time to find out why my words were not indexed. But that should not hold back this patch. More somthing to have acloser look for in teh future. I think of intelligent auto-blackslisting or so. * When I do an advanced search, teh resutlts are primted in the box: very good!. But my advaced form is emty. That is no good udability, imo. That form should represent what I was searching for. * I still do not like he way results are returned by default: "weblink - Bèr Kessels - 05/08/2005 - 14:20 - 0 comments" is far too much data. And i even have "do not show data for foo", set in the theme settings! can we please re-thing the *default* styles for search results? Without all the CSS bloat, and without all the details? Why not go for a default teaser vew? $node->title = $title //the name, subject or title of teh element $node->teaser = $content // teh nice highlighted data of search result body That way it wil be consisten tih teh rest of the site, save a *lot* of code and be better theamble too. * "your serach yielded no results" should be a set_message. Yes, we discussed that it should be in the place where ppl look for the results. but I tried it, and it is just as visible above the search as below! really. (see screenie) Overall, i think introducing a complex search is very nice. And i think this is a great step forward. But I much rather see, this being implemented in a MUCH easier API as well as MUCH easier hooks. preprocessing as a single hook. What /is/ preprocessing? form, index, etc in one hook? why put preprocess ii a single hook, but the others on one huge nodapi alike construction? What do they do, these nodeapi things? Why do I need them and when do I need them? I say this, because I spent hours with and hours trial-and-error methods to get some form of advanced flexinode search going. The current system is just to hard to grok for an average developer like me. I know these things are easy to say, but very hard to implement. But as long as we cannot allow searching for the obvious data people see (I am sure I read that that search guru has winamp as favorite, why can't i find his username when i search for winamp) I think we should be carefull with extending the search into advanced search. Can we not first think of a general solution, one that will fix ALL drupals search problems and then dive into advanced searching, that will make it even more complex? Steven: I still think you did a marvelous job! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 13:25:45 +0000 : Steven "* When I do an advanced search, teh resutlts are printed in the box: very good!. But my advaced form is emty. That is no good udability, imo. That form should represent what I was searching for. " I debated over how to implement this, and I went for the current method of not showing anything in the advanced form. The first reason is that parsing a query back into the advanced options is not generally possible. For example, you could have more than one phrase in your query, yet the query builder only accomodates one for simplicity. It is a tool, not a complete equivalent to the keyword syntax. Secondly, there is a conflict between what is in the keywords box and what is in the advanced form. For example, I might build an advanced query, and then start modifying the 'baked in' keyword version. At that point we need to decide which takes precedence, and arguments can be found for both sides. At first I tried to reconcile this by only respecting the advanced controls if you pressed "advanced search", but then there is ambiguity of which button to default to if the user submits the form by pressing enter. I also thought of making it so that the query builder always adds to the keywords (ignoring duplicates), but that means you can't loosen a query except by manually removing parts of the keywords box /and/ manually unchecking the options in the advanced form. After trying out the various options, I found that the usability of the current method is the clearest and results in the least amount of inconsistencies perceived as 'buggy behaviour'. "What /is/ preprocessing? why put preprocess ii a single hook, but the others on one huge nodapi alike construction? " Preprocessing is what it says: a transformation applied to text before it is inserted in and matched against the search index. You can use it to add in stemming algorithms, soundex as well as word-splitting for non-spaced languages like Chinese and Japanese. As for why to put it in a separate hook: for performance reasons. "I am not happy with the 5 character default limit. It took me quite some time to find out why my words were not indexed. But that should not hold back this patch. More somthing to have acloser look for in teh future. I think of intelligent auto-blackslisting or so. " About the limit: it only has any effect if none of the words in your search query is 5 letters or longer. As soon as one word in the query is 5 letters, all results can be found. Judging from drupal.org searches, this was a correct trade-off to make. If you introduce a stemming algorithm through the preprocessor, you can probably afford to set the size limit smaller. But until then, imo 5 is a good default. About intelligent blacklisting: this is not really possible. The goal of blacklisting is to keep the index size down. But to find out which words to blacklist, you need to include them in some sort of index. Chicken and egg. "Can we not first think of a general solution, one that will fix ALL drupals search problems and then dive into advanced searching, that will make it even more complex? " I await your proposals. But until people start getting involved in the architecture rather than just bombarding me with feature-requests and saying that 'search sucks', I can only do things my way. In fact, the biggest complexity hurdle right now is simply that search is optional. This means that all search operations should go through search.module. Modules with 100% custom searches on the other hand can simply put a tab on "search/module" and do everything their way. But that means that that tab will be there even if search.module is disabled and that these modules cannot take advantage of the various utility functions provided by search.module. For example, searching profile fields for user search is perfectly possible even without this patch, though it would require that the user search be moved into profile.module. A nodeapi-like system where profile.module can add to user.module's search would only result in huge joins and queries being added to other queries en-masse. The code would be even more complex than it is now. As far as the hook_search ops, I'm sorry but I think they are quite clear. I specifically added comments to node_search to explain each op when this would not be done normally (e.g. everyone is assumed to know that nodeapi('validate') is used to validate extra node fields): 'name': return the name of this search 'search': perform a search (new) 'form': add form items to the standard 'enter your keywords' search (new) 'post': process a search form and inject the parameters into the keyword string (needed because of the clean URLs) And only for index-using modules: 'reset': reset the indexing progress 'status': return status of the indexing progress (% completed) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 15:19:57 +0000 : Bèr Kessels Thanks. So lets get teh focus back on the patch then. And move my proposal for a new search architecture to new thread; http://drupal.org/node/28275 I agree about the complexity of re-filling the search box. But still, it somehow gfeels odd that its not fileld anymore. Its a usability no-no to do that, though your rationale for not filling it makes more sense. Maybe we just need to rething the interface in general then? Does anyone s"ee any other options? Put adv.search in a tab advanced could be an option: but that might be a no-no because we hide it away then. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 21:57:44 +0000 : matt_paz I have the code running at http://connect.educause.edu "100% of the site has been indexed." Minimum word length to index: 4 Nonetheless, I'm getting mixed results. If I search for 'Hawkins' I get no results ... even though I know (I think) it should be indexing the word hawkins from the body of this content ... http://connect.educause.edu/blog/mpasiewicz/317 Any ideas? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 22:42:22 +0000 : cyberchucktx Looks greeat! I may give it a shot this weekend ... and since I'm using Civicspace i'll be really daring and try it out within that system as well. I haven't read *all* the comments yet .. but would be it possible to do some admin work to setup different search types similar to the "Input Formats" section? By this I mean that different search types could "lock down" various parts of the interface to restrict the search to specific categories ... Charlie ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 08 Aug 2005 21:24:30 +0000 : matt_paz sorry, the link for the example where the text does exist should have been ... http://connect.educause.edu/blog/mpasiewicz/podcast_coverage_of_brian_hawkin... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 08 Aug 2005 22:37:43 +0000 : Ballie Carefull when using temporary tables: not all hosting companies might give their users the necessary privilege. (Mine doesn't even give me LOCK TABLES privilege.) ""From MySQL 4.0.2 on, you must have the CREATE TEMPORARY TABLES privilege to be able to create temporary tables."(MySQL Reference Manual) " Maybe we should provide an (slower, but working) alternative, so that they don't get an ugly error message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, 09 Aug 2005 04:28:36 +0000 : nedjo Nice work Steven. These advanced operands are a great addition. If you haven't already, you might wish to look at how I've implemented some of these advanced search functionalities in SQL Search (formerly trip search). Specifically: * While it's handy having advanced as a form group right on the search form, all in all I think it's better to have "advanced" as a separate page. Google is a good guide here. The advanced page feeds into a search results with just the simple form, containing any advanced operands. This encourages users to recognize and use the operands in the simple form, and solves the problem of whether to replicate the advanced elements on the results page. * If you want to add help text on advanced operands, you'll find some in SQL Search * By providing a link for advanced search for each content type, it's possible to limit the taxonomy terms to vocabularies associated with that content type. * Have a look at the filtering within results (by both content type and category). You might want to do something similar, or else I'd be happy to contribute a port of that to core after your patch hits. In general, the new approach seems to move the core search module closer to what's done in SQL Search--that is, relying on native SQL matching rather than custom indexing. It may make sense to phase out SQL Search, and possibly introduce the options (native MySQL full text indexing, etc.) into the core module. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wed, 10 Aug 2005 01:15:14 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_5.patch (43.99 KB) Keeping up to date. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 15 Aug 2005 20:39:47 +0000 : levavie Recent results must appear first. Please order the search by *decending date order*. Have you tried to search drupal for info lately? Then you will understand what I mean. Tons of results for 2002 and 2003 are mixed with recent results. Amnon - Personal: Bring Dolphin's Simple Joy to your Work - Job - Career Professional: Small Business Web Hosting Strategies, Drupal Consulting / Drupal Hebrew Translation ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 15 Aug 2005 20:49:09 +0000 : jsaints I have made a patch to the search module to restrict searching within given taxonomies. I thought that this might be of use to you. See http://drupal.org/node/28933 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sat, 20 Aug 2005 10:18:30 +0000 : Bèr Kessels Do not change the title, unless you have a good reason to!
Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/28159 Post a follow up: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/28159 Project: Drupal Version: cvs Component: search.module Category: feature requests Priority: normal Assigned to: Steven Reported by: Steven Updated by: m3avrck Status: patch (code needs review) I get a similiar error trying to use this patched... line 442 is malformed. Checked that in my diff program and it highlights it weird, I bet one of those character encodings is causing a problem. Maybe because of such extensive work on search.module it would make more sense to post an *entirely* new file to avoid these problems we are having? Just a thought :) m3avrck Previous comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 00:46:49 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_2.patch (37.05 KB) Here's my promised search patch. It's not 100% commit ready yet, but it's time to sollicit some feedback and get this tested ;). Note that this patch requires a db update, which will wipe the search index. You will then need to call cron.php enough times for the site to be indexed completely again. This could take a while for large databases, but you can control the throttle and see the progress at admin/settings/search. *Features* * AND keyword matching by default ('all of the words'), instead of OR ('any of the words'). * OR support through keyword1 OR keyword2 OR ... * Phrase searching through "quoted strings". * Negative matching through -"minus prefix" -word. * Restrict search by taxonomy or node type(s) using taxonomy:1,2 and type:blog,page. The options are built-into the keyword string through a google like syntax, but there is an expandable "advanced settings" form below the search box which acts as a 'query builder': This example will result in the following search string (of course not a practical example): test type:forum,story category:1 "tinky winky" OR "dipsy" -"uh oh" "teletubby bye bye" On a different note, I removed the wildcard matching. An important reason is that there were significant performance problems with leading wildcards. Such queries were not be able to use any indices, and the resulting full-table scan took a long time. Even Google does not have intra-word wildcards, theirs can only be used as placeholders for entire words in phrases. Trailing wildcards on the other hand are usually used to accomodate grammatical variations on a word. But, wildcards are not really the best tool for this as this puts a burden on the user. If you need this feature, you should instead tie in an algorithm like the Porter Stemmer through the search_preprocess hook. That way you can reduce related words to a single common root (e.g. "walker" "walking" "walked" to "walk"). The search system will then index and search on the reduced words. You will even benefit from a reduced database size because there are less unique words. Because such algorithms are very language specific, I didn't build in any. But it should be trivial to make a Porter Stemmer module for Drupal search, which can be used on english sites. *Database* To implement the above searches, I added a 'search_dataset' table that is independent of the keyword index. Each dataset row contains the entire contents of the indexed item, but filtered, cleaned up and reduced to space-sparated tokens (words, numbers, dates, ...). This table is used to resolve the exact conditions, which means the keyword index is not as essential anymore. Because searches are AND by default, the OR method of search_index acts as an initial filter to eliminate the majority of items immediately. That subset is then further reduced through the search_dataset table. All of this means that the search_index table can now be indexed at a much higher minimum word lenght (e.g. 5), which means a reduced database size. Even with the new dataset table, the net database size shrinks slightly. I also implemented the searching as two selects into temporary tables. This allows me to avoid doing a costly counting query for the pager and a range-limited query for the actual results. I added support for temporary tables to database.(my|pg)sql. The db api itself takes a normal SELECT and a table name, and turns it into an appropriate platform specific temporary table query (CREATE TABLE ... AS, CREATE TABLE ... SELECT). I still need to do detailed benchmarking, but at least for the same queries as before, this patch should be faster. Of course, pre-patch, all searches were OR, not AND, so a direct comparison needs to take this into account (the pre-patch query "drupal theme development" is now "drupal OR theme OR development"). One feature request that I did not do is date based searching (before X/X/X, after X/X/X), mostly because we don't have a good date widget yet. I've been toying with making a simple in-page JS data picker, but it's not done yet and I think the patch is good enough already. Date restrictions can be added on later without any problems. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 01:27:29 +0000 : Steven Oh and in case this wasn't clear, the syntax of putting extra conditions into the search keywords ("type:blog") means that each search result page can be linked to directly. They all have clean URLs: search/node/type:blog+keyword for example. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 02:34:38 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch (37.05 KB) Sorry, the patch was malformed because wincvs wrapped those really long preg classes :P. Fixed patch attached. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:28:14 +0000 : stevryn This looks great, cant wait till its fully ready. I tried trip_search, but couldnt get it to work, and the regular search definately needed some better features! I would like to test it, but I have no idea how to apply a patch. Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it? Tx T ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:23:08 +0000 : webchick
Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it?
I can help you there, I think. Follow step 2 here if you don't already have a CVS version of Drupal up and running (you can't use this patch against 4.6.2, for example): http://www.planetsoc.com/node/164 Then, switch to your Drupal CVS root directory, for example: cd ~/drupal-cvs Use wget to retrieve a copy of the most recent patch (in this case, search_3.patch): wget http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch Execute the following command to apply the patch to your Drupal installation: patch -p0 -u < search_3.patch This will patch all the files with the updated search. Then go through the normal steps you would go through to get a new Drupal system up and running. Step 3 of the aforementioned link has some info on how to get a table prefix going if you want to keep this test version separate from your "normal" Drupal installation. My problem is I've done all of this, but am still getting strange errors (even on a "normal" unpatched version of the search), so I need to figure out if I have a problem on my end or what's going on. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:27:52 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org @Jeremy: Sorting by two fields does not seem to work. @Moshe: This code does not rely on the fact that wid is an auto_increment field in any way. Just some concerns did. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:29:28 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org Oops, that comment should have been for another issue. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:49:36 +0000 : matt_paz It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:50:11 +0000 : matt_paz Nice addition! It seems to be working great. It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 17:20:48 +0000 : stevryn Thanks webchick! I have it working now. Great work Steven, my live site is 4.6.1, I havent wanted to take the great leap and update, last time I did it was *not* pretty. I assume this will work with that version once its completed and submitted? Seriously the search functionality needs this sort of advanced features!! Tx for all your work! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:19:51 +0000 : Kobus Hi! Like the previous replier to this post, I can't apply patches myself, but simply because I don't do it frequently enough, and forgot how to do it, but I will catch up with this and test if I get a chance. In principle this is a great patch! Definate +1. I have another feature (not sure it belongs to this thread, so if not, I apologize) that I would love to see in the search module. That is to provide hooks so that you can create a customized search form, for example, I need the following three field sets in a search form for a property website: * Price range "Start price" -> "End price", using some MIN() and MAX() functions if the user selects the wrong way around. (dropdowns with certain ranges). * Area where the property is supposed to be located in (taxonomy category). * Features that the property MUST have, for example, your requirement would be "TWO BATHROOMS" or "FOUR BEDROOMS". (Search through checkboxes, radios and text fields that was defined in the "property.module" file and database structure. (This module is written by an amateur (me), that's why not contributed, but, should there be interest in it, I will contribute it.) These extra search forms would be way different for each different application, so I don't expect the search module to be able to actually do this, but at least to provide functionality that a coder can write such an extension in his module, in other words, the queries that will define the search, and the form that the user will see, should be definable in the module, and called instead of the default search form if required. Will this be possible at all? Regards, Kobus ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:42:59 +0000 : Crell @Kobus: Actually you can do that now. See the Location module for an example of a fully custom search function. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:59:25 +0000 : Kobus Hi! Thanks lgarfiel. I have downloaded the module and will play around with it over the weekend. Regards, Kobus ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 10:11:35 +0000 : Bèr Kessels * my update failed. You had/have a problem in update.inc in the updates/callback array. I had-modified the database and it works fine now. * I am not happy with the 5 character default limit. It took me quite some time to find out why my words were not indexed. But that should not hold back this patch. More somthing to have acloser look for in teh future. I think of intelligent auto-blackslisting or so. * When I do an advanced search, teh resutlts are primted in the box: very good!. But my advaced form is emty. That is no good udability, imo. That form should represent what I was searching for. * I still do not like he way results are returned by default: "weblink - Bèr Kessels - 05/08/2005 - 14:20 - 0 comments" is far too much data. And i even have "do not show data for foo", set in the theme settings! can we please re-thing the *default* styles for search results? Without all the CSS bloat, and without all the details? Why not go for a default teaser vew? $node->title = $title //the name, subject or title of teh element $node->teaser = $content // teh nice highlighted data of search result body That way it wil be consisten tih teh rest of the site, save a *lot* of code and be better theamble too. * "your serach yielded no results" should be a set_message. Yes, we discussed that it should be in the place where ppl look for the results. but I tried it, and it is just as visible above the search as below! really. (see screenie) Overall, i think introducing a complex search is very nice. And i think this is a great step forward. But I much rather see, this being implemented in a MUCH easier API as well as MUCH easier hooks. preprocessing as a single hook. What /is/ preprocessing? form, index, etc in one hook? why put preprocess ii a single hook, but the others on one huge nodapi alike construction? What do they do, these nodeapi things? Why do I need them and when do I need them? I say this, because I spent hours with and hours trial-and-error methods to get some form of advanced flexinode search going. The current system is just to hard to grok for an average developer like me. I know these things are easy to say, but very hard to implement. But as long as we cannot allow searching for the obvious data people see (I am sure I read that that search guru has winamp as favorite, why can't i find his username when i search for winamp) I think we should be carefull with extending the search into advanced search. Can we not first think of a general solution, one that will fix ALL drupals search problems and then dive into advanced searching, that will make it even more complex? Steven: I still think you did a marvelous job! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 13:25:45 +0000 : Steven "* When I do an advanced search, teh resutlts are printed in the box: very good!. But my advaced form is emty. That is no good udability, imo. That form should represent what I was searching for. " I debated over how to implement this, and I went for the current method of not showing anything in the advanced form. The first reason is that parsing a query back into the advanced options is not generally possible. For example, you could have more than one phrase in your query, yet the query builder only accomodates one for simplicity. It is a tool, not a complete equivalent to the keyword syntax. Secondly, there is a conflict between what is in the keywords box and what is in the advanced form. For example, I might build an advanced query, and then start modifying the 'baked in' keyword version. At that point we need to decide which takes precedence, and arguments can be found for both sides. At first I tried to reconcile this by only respecting the advanced controls if you pressed "advanced search", but then there is ambiguity of which button to default to if the user submits the form by pressing enter. I also thought of making it so that the query builder always adds to the keywords (ignoring duplicates), but that means you can't loosen a query except by manually removing parts of the keywords box /and/ manually unchecking the options in the advanced form. After trying out the various options, I found that the usability of the current method is the clearest and results in the least amount of inconsistencies perceived as 'buggy behaviour'. "What /is/ preprocessing? why put preprocess ii a single hook, but the others on one huge nodapi alike construction? " Preprocessing is what it says: a transformation applied to text before it is inserted in and matched against the search index. You can use it to add in stemming algorithms, soundex as well as word-splitting for non-spaced languages like Chinese and Japanese. As for why to put it in a separate hook: for performance reasons. "I am not happy with the 5 character default limit. It took me quite some time to find out why my words were not indexed. But that should not hold back this patch. More somthing to have acloser look for in teh future. I think of intelligent auto-blackslisting or so. " About the limit: it only has any effect if none of the words in your search query is 5 letters or longer. As soon as one word in the query is 5 letters, all results can be found. Judging from drupal.org searches, this was a correct trade-off to make. If you introduce a stemming algorithm through the preprocessor, you can probably afford to set the size limit smaller. But until then, imo 5 is a good default. About intelligent blacklisting: this is not really possible. The goal of blacklisting is to keep the index size down. But to find out which words to blacklist, you need to include them in some sort of index. Chicken and egg. "Can we not first think of a general solution, one that will fix ALL drupals search problems and then dive into advanced searching, that will make it even more complex? " I await your proposals. But until people start getting involved in the architecture rather than just bombarding me with feature-requests and saying that 'search sucks', I can only do things my way. In fact, the biggest complexity hurdle right now is simply that search is optional. This means that all search operations should go through search.module. Modules with 100% custom searches on the other hand can simply put a tab on "search/module" and do everything their way. But that means that that tab will be there even if search.module is disabled and that these modules cannot take advantage of the various utility functions provided by search.module. For example, searching profile fields for user search is perfectly possible even without this patch, though it would require that the user search be moved into profile.module. A nodeapi-like system where profile.module can add to user.module's search would only result in huge joins and queries being added to other queries en-masse. The code would be even more complex than it is now. As far as the hook_search ops, I'm sorry but I think they are quite clear. I specifically added comments to node_search to explain each op when this would not be done normally (e.g. everyone is assumed to know that nodeapi('validate') is used to validate extra node fields): 'name': return the name of this search 'search': perform a search (new) 'form': add form items to the standard 'enter your keywords' search (new) 'post': process a search form and inject the parameters into the keyword string (needed because of the clean URLs) And only for index-using modules: 'reset': reset the indexing progress 'status': return status of the indexing progress (% completed) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 15:19:57 +0000 : Bèr Kessels Thanks. So lets get teh focus back on the patch then. And move my proposal for a new search architecture to new thread; http://drupal.org/node/28275 I agree about the complexity of re-filling the search box. But still, it somehow gfeels odd that its not fileld anymore. Its a usability no-no to do that, though your rationale for not filling it makes more sense. Maybe we just need to rething the interface in general then? Does anyone s"ee any other options? Put adv.search in a tab advanced could be an option: but that might be a no-no because we hide it away then. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 21:57:44 +0000 : matt_paz I have the code running at http://connect.educause.edu "100% of the site has been indexed." Minimum word length to index: 4 Nonetheless, I'm getting mixed results. If I search for 'Hawkins' I get no results ... even though I know (I think) it should be indexing the word hawkins from the body of this content ... http://connect.educause.edu/blog/mpasiewicz/317 Any ideas? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 22:42:22 +0000 : cyberchucktx Looks greeat! I may give it a shot this weekend ... and since I'm using Civicspace i'll be really daring and try it out within that system as well. I haven't read *all* the comments yet .. but would be it possible to do some admin work to setup different search types similar to the "Input Formats" section? By this I mean that different search types could "lock down" various parts of the interface to restrict the search to specific categories ... Charlie ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 08 Aug 2005 21:24:30 +0000 : matt_paz sorry, the link for the example where the text does exist should have been ... http://connect.educause.edu/blog/mpasiewicz/podcast_coverage_of_brian_hawkin... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 08 Aug 2005 22:37:43 +0000 : Ballie Carefull when using temporary tables: not all hosting companies might give their users the necessary privilege. (Mine doesn't even give me LOCK TABLES privilege.) ""From MySQL 4.0.2 on, you must have the CREATE TEMPORARY TABLES privilege to be able to create temporary tables."(MySQL Reference Manual) " Maybe we should provide an (slower, but working) alternative, so that they don't get an ugly error message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, 09 Aug 2005 04:28:36 +0000 : nedjo Nice work Steven. These advanced operands are a great addition. If you haven't already, you might wish to look at how I've implemented some of these advanced search functionalities in SQL Search (formerly trip search). Specifically: * While it's handy having advanced as a form group right on the search form, all in all I think it's better to have "advanced" as a separate page. Google is a good guide here. The advanced page feeds into a search results with just the simple form, containing any advanced operands. This encourages users to recognize and use the operands in the simple form, and solves the problem of whether to replicate the advanced elements on the results page. * If you want to add help text on advanced operands, you'll find some in SQL Search * By providing a link for advanced search for each content type, it's possible to limit the taxonomy terms to vocabularies associated with that content type. * Have a look at the filtering within results (by both content type and category). You might want to do something similar, or else I'd be happy to contribute a port of that to core after your patch hits. In general, the new approach seems to move the core search module closer to what's done in SQL Search--that is, relying on native SQL matching rather than custom indexing. It may make sense to phase out SQL Search, and possibly introduce the options (native MySQL full text indexing, etc.) into the core module. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wed, 10 Aug 2005 01:15:14 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_5.patch (43.99 KB) Keeping up to date. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 15 Aug 2005 20:39:47 +0000 : levavie Recent results must appear first. Please order the search by *decending date order*. Have you tried to search drupal for info lately? Then you will understand what I mean. Tons of results for 2002 and 2003 are mixed with recent results. 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Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/28159 Post a follow up: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/28159 Project: Drupal Version: cvs Component: search.module Category: feature requests Priority: normal Assigned to: Steven Reported by: Steven Updated by: jakeg Status: patch (code needs review) yeah, would be good if full working copies of the changed files and mysql changes could be posted here. jakeg Previous comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 00:46:49 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_2.patch (37.05 KB) Here's my promised search patch. It's not 100% commit ready yet, but it's time to sollicit some feedback and get this tested ;). Note that this patch requires a db update, which will wipe the search index. You will then need to call cron.php enough times for the site to be indexed completely again. This could take a while for large databases, but you can control the throttle and see the progress at admin/settings/search. *Features* * AND keyword matching by default ('all of the words'), instead of OR ('any of the words'). * OR support through keyword1 OR keyword2 OR ... * Phrase searching through "quoted strings". * Negative matching through -"minus prefix" -word. * Restrict search by taxonomy or node type(s) using taxonomy:1,2 and type:blog,page. The options are built-into the keyword string through a google like syntax, but there is an expandable "advanced settings" form below the search box which acts as a 'query builder': This example will result in the following search string (of course not a practical example): test type:forum,story category:1 "tinky winky" OR "dipsy" -"uh oh" "teletubby bye bye" On a different note, I removed the wildcard matching. An important reason is that there were significant performance problems with leading wildcards. Such queries were not be able to use any indices, and the resulting full-table scan took a long time. Even Google does not have intra-word wildcards, theirs can only be used as placeholders for entire words in phrases. Trailing wildcards on the other hand are usually used to accomodate grammatical variations on a word. But, wildcards are not really the best tool for this as this puts a burden on the user. If you need this feature, you should instead tie in an algorithm like the Porter Stemmer through the search_preprocess hook. That way you can reduce related words to a single common root (e.g. "walker" "walking" "walked" to "walk"). The search system will then index and search on the reduced words. You will even benefit from a reduced database size because there are less unique words. Because such algorithms are very language specific, I didn't build in any. But it should be trivial to make a Porter Stemmer module for Drupal search, which can be used on english sites. *Database* To implement the above searches, I added a 'search_dataset' table that is independent of the keyword index. Each dataset row contains the entire contents of the indexed item, but filtered, cleaned up and reduced to space-sparated tokens (words, numbers, dates, ...). This table is used to resolve the exact conditions, which means the keyword index is not as essential anymore. Because searches are AND by default, the OR method of search_index acts as an initial filter to eliminate the majority of items immediately. That subset is then further reduced through the search_dataset table. All of this means that the search_index table can now be indexed at a much higher minimum word lenght (e.g. 5), which means a reduced database size. Even with the new dataset table, the net database size shrinks slightly. I also implemented the searching as two selects into temporary tables. This allows me to avoid doing a costly counting query for the pager and a range-limited query for the actual results. I added support for temporary tables to database.(my|pg)sql. The db api itself takes a normal SELECT and a table name, and turns it into an appropriate platform specific temporary table query (CREATE TABLE ... AS, CREATE TABLE ... SELECT). I still need to do detailed benchmarking, but at least for the same queries as before, this patch should be faster. Of course, pre-patch, all searches were OR, not AND, so a direct comparison needs to take this into account (the pre-patch query "drupal theme development" is now "drupal OR theme OR development"). One feature request that I did not do is date based searching (before X/X/X, after X/X/X), mostly because we don't have a good date widget yet. I've been toying with making a simple in-page JS data picker, but it's not done yet and I think the patch is good enough already. Date restrictions can be added on later without any problems. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 01:27:29 +0000 : Steven Oh and in case this wasn't clear, the syntax of putting extra conditions into the search keywords ("type:blog") means that each search result page can be linked to directly. They all have clean URLs: search/node/type:blog+keyword for example. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 02:34:38 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch (37.05 KB) Sorry, the patch was malformed because wincvs wrapped those really long preg classes :P. Fixed patch attached. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 13:28:14 +0000 : stevryn This looks great, cant wait till its fully ready. I tried trip_search, but couldnt get it to work, and the regular search definately needed some better features! I would like to test it, but I have no idea how to apply a patch. Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it? Tx T ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:23:08 +0000 : webchick
Can you give me simple, for a Unix dummy, instructions on how to go about it?
I can help you there, I think. Follow step 2 here if you don't already have a CVS version of Drupal up and running (you can't use this patch against 4.6.2, for example): http://www.planetsoc.com/node/164 Then, switch to your Drupal CVS root directory, for example: cd ~/drupal-cvs Use wget to retrieve a copy of the most recent patch (in this case, search_3.patch): wget http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_3.patch Execute the following command to apply the patch to your Drupal installation: patch -p0 -u < search_3.patch This will patch all the files with the updated search. Then go through the normal steps you would go through to get a new Drupal system up and running. Step 3 of the aforementioned link has some info on how to get a table prefix going if you want to keep this test version separate from your "normal" Drupal installation. My problem is I've done all of this, but am still getting strange errors (even on a "normal" unpatched version of the search), so I need to figure out if I have a problem on my end or what's going on. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:27:52 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org @Jeremy: Sorting by two fields does not seem to work. @Moshe: This code does not rely on the fact that wid is an auto_increment field in any way. Just some concerns did. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 14:29:28 +0000 : killes@www.drop.org Oops, that comment should have been for another issue. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:49:36 +0000 : matt_paz It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 15:50:11 +0000 : matt_paz Nice addition! It seems to be working great. It would be nice to allow the ability to select which vocabularies and node types are (or aren't) available in the advanced search. Or to be able to turn them off altogether. It would also be nice to be able to display the totla node count for each type/category in parens. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 04 Aug 2005 17:20:48 +0000 : stevryn Thanks webchick! I have it working now. Great work Steven, my live site is 4.6.1, I havent wanted to take the great leap and update, last time I did it was *not* pretty. I assume this will work with that version once its completed and submitted? Seriously the search functionality needs this sort of advanced features!! Tx for all your work! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:19:51 +0000 : Kobus Hi! Like the previous replier to this post, I can't apply patches myself, but simply because I don't do it frequently enough, and forgot how to do it, but I will catch up with this and test if I get a chance. In principle this is a great patch! Definate +1. I have another feature (not sure it belongs to this thread, so if not, I apologize) that I would love to see in the search module. That is to provide hooks so that you can create a customized search form, for example, I need the following three field sets in a search form for a property website: * Price range "Start price" -> "End price", using some MIN() and MAX() functions if the user selects the wrong way around. (dropdowns with certain ranges). * Area where the property is supposed to be located in (taxonomy category). * Features that the property MUST have, for example, your requirement would be "TWO BATHROOMS" or "FOUR BEDROOMS". (Search through checkboxes, radios and text fields that was defined in the "property.module" file and database structure. (This module is written by an amateur (me), that's why not contributed, but, should there be interest in it, I will contribute it.) These extra search forms would be way different for each different application, so I don't expect the search module to be able to actually do this, but at least to provide functionality that a coder can write such an extension in his module, in other words, the queries that will define the search, and the form that the user will see, should be definable in the module, and called instead of the default search form if required. Will this be possible at all? Regards, Kobus ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:42:59 +0000 : Crell @Kobus: Actually you can do that now. See the Location module for an example of a fully custom search function. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 06:59:25 +0000 : Kobus Hi! Thanks lgarfiel. I have downloaded the module and will play around with it over the weekend. Regards, Kobus ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 10:11:35 +0000 : Bèr Kessels * my update failed. You had/have a problem in update.inc in the updates/callback array. I had-modified the database and it works fine now. * I am not happy with the 5 character default limit. It took me quite some time to find out why my words were not indexed. But that should not hold back this patch. More somthing to have acloser look for in teh future. I think of intelligent auto-blackslisting or so. * When I do an advanced search, teh resutlts are primted in the box: very good!. But my advaced form is emty. That is no good udability, imo. That form should represent what I was searching for. * I still do not like he way results are returned by default: "weblink - Bèr Kessels - 05/08/2005 - 14:20 - 0 comments" is far too much data. And i even have "do not show data for foo", set in the theme settings! can we please re-thing the *default* styles for search results? Without all the CSS bloat, and without all the details? Why not go for a default teaser vew? $node->title = $title //the name, subject or title of teh element $node->teaser = $content // teh nice highlighted data of search result body That way it wil be consisten tih teh rest of the site, save a *lot* of code and be better theamble too. * "your serach yielded no results" should be a set_message. Yes, we discussed that it should be in the place where ppl look for the results. but I tried it, and it is just as visible above the search as below! really. (see screenie) Overall, i think introducing a complex search is very nice. And i think this is a great step forward. But I much rather see, this being implemented in a MUCH easier API as well as MUCH easier hooks. preprocessing as a single hook. What /is/ preprocessing? form, index, etc in one hook? why put preprocess ii a single hook, but the others on one huge nodapi alike construction? What do they do, these nodeapi things? Why do I need them and when do I need them? I say this, because I spent hours with and hours trial-and-error methods to get some form of advanced flexinode search going. The current system is just to hard to grok for an average developer like me. I know these things are easy to say, but very hard to implement. But as long as we cannot allow searching for the obvious data people see (I am sure I read that that search guru has winamp as favorite, why can't i find his username when i search for winamp) I think we should be carefull with extending the search into advanced search. Can we not first think of a general solution, one that will fix ALL drupals search problems and then dive into advanced searching, that will make it even more complex? Steven: I still think you did a marvelous job! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 13:25:45 +0000 : Steven "* When I do an advanced search, teh resutlts are printed in the box: very good!. But my advaced form is emty. That is no good udability, imo. That form should represent what I was searching for. " I debated over how to implement this, and I went for the current method of not showing anything in the advanced form. The first reason is that parsing a query back into the advanced options is not generally possible. For example, you could have more than one phrase in your query, yet the query builder only accomodates one for simplicity. It is a tool, not a complete equivalent to the keyword syntax. Secondly, there is a conflict between what is in the keywords box and what is in the advanced form. For example, I might build an advanced query, and then start modifying the 'baked in' keyword version. At that point we need to decide which takes precedence, and arguments can be found for both sides. At first I tried to reconcile this by only respecting the advanced controls if you pressed "advanced search", but then there is ambiguity of which button to default to if the user submits the form by pressing enter. I also thought of making it so that the query builder always adds to the keywords (ignoring duplicates), but that means you can't loosen a query except by manually removing parts of the keywords box /and/ manually unchecking the options in the advanced form. After trying out the various options, I found that the usability of the current method is the clearest and results in the least amount of inconsistencies perceived as 'buggy behaviour'. "What /is/ preprocessing? why put preprocess ii a single hook, but the others on one huge nodapi alike construction? " Preprocessing is what it says: a transformation applied to text before it is inserted in and matched against the search index. You can use it to add in stemming algorithms, soundex as well as word-splitting for non-spaced languages like Chinese and Japanese. As for why to put it in a separate hook: for performance reasons. "I am not happy with the 5 character default limit. It took me quite some time to find out why my words were not indexed. But that should not hold back this patch. More somthing to have acloser look for in teh future. I think of intelligent auto-blackslisting or so. " About the limit: it only has any effect if none of the words in your search query is 5 letters or longer. As soon as one word in the query is 5 letters, all results can be found. Judging from drupal.org searches, this was a correct trade-off to make. If you introduce a stemming algorithm through the preprocessor, you can probably afford to set the size limit smaller. But until then, imo 5 is a good default. About intelligent blacklisting: this is not really possible. The goal of blacklisting is to keep the index size down. But to find out which words to blacklist, you need to include them in some sort of index. Chicken and egg. "Can we not first think of a general solution, one that will fix ALL drupals search problems and then dive into advanced searching, that will make it even more complex? " I await your proposals. But until people start getting involved in the architecture rather than just bombarding me with feature-requests and saying that 'search sucks', I can only do things my way. In fact, the biggest complexity hurdle right now is simply that search is optional. This means that all search operations should go through search.module. Modules with 100% custom searches on the other hand can simply put a tab on "search/module" and do everything their way. But that means that that tab will be there even if search.module is disabled and that these modules cannot take advantage of the various utility functions provided by search.module. For example, searching profile fields for user search is perfectly possible even without this patch, though it would require that the user search be moved into profile.module. A nodeapi-like system where profile.module can add to user.module's search would only result in huge joins and queries being added to other queries en-masse. The code would be even more complex than it is now. As far as the hook_search ops, I'm sorry but I think they are quite clear. I specifically added comments to node_search to explain each op when this would not be done normally (e.g. everyone is assumed to know that nodeapi('validate') is used to validate extra node fields): 'name': return the name of this search 'search': perform a search (new) 'form': add form items to the standard 'enter your keywords' search (new) 'post': process a search form and inject the parameters into the keyword string (needed because of the clean URLs) And only for index-using modules: 'reset': reset the indexing progress 'status': return status of the indexing progress (% completed) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 15:19:57 +0000 : Bèr Kessels Thanks. So lets get teh focus back on the patch then. And move my proposal for a new search architecture to new thread; http://drupal.org/node/28275 I agree about the complexity of re-filling the search box. But still, it somehow gfeels odd that its not fileld anymore. Its a usability no-no to do that, though your rationale for not filling it makes more sense. Maybe we just need to rething the interface in general then? Does anyone s"ee any other options? Put adv.search in a tab advanced could be an option: but that might be a no-no because we hide it away then. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 21:57:44 +0000 : matt_paz I have the code running at http://connect.educause.edu "100% of the site has been indexed." Minimum word length to index: 4 Nonetheless, I'm getting mixed results. If I search for 'Hawkins' I get no results ... even though I know (I think) it should be indexing the word hawkins from the body of this content ... http://connect.educause.edu/blog/mpasiewicz/317 Any ideas? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 22:42:22 +0000 : cyberchucktx Looks greeat! I may give it a shot this weekend ... and since I'm using Civicspace i'll be really daring and try it out within that system as well. I haven't read *all* the comments yet .. but would be it possible to do some admin work to setup different search types similar to the "Input Formats" section? By this I mean that different search types could "lock down" various parts of the interface to restrict the search to specific categories ... Charlie ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 08 Aug 2005 21:24:30 +0000 : matt_paz sorry, the link for the example where the text does exist should have been ... http://connect.educause.edu/blog/mpasiewicz/podcast_coverage_of_brian_hawkin... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 08 Aug 2005 22:37:43 +0000 : Ballie Carefull when using temporary tables: not all hosting companies might give their users the necessary privilege. (Mine doesn't even give me LOCK TABLES privilege.) ""From MySQL 4.0.2 on, you must have the CREATE TEMPORARY TABLES privilege to be able to create temporary tables."(MySQL Reference Manual) " Maybe we should provide an (slower, but working) alternative, so that they don't get an ugly error message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, 09 Aug 2005 04:28:36 +0000 : nedjo Nice work Steven. These advanced operands are a great addition. If you haven't already, you might wish to look at how I've implemented some of these advanced search functionalities in SQL Search (formerly trip search). Specifically: * While it's handy having advanced as a form group right on the search form, all in all I think it's better to have "advanced" as a separate page. Google is a good guide here. The advanced page feeds into a search results with just the simple form, containing any advanced operands. This encourages users to recognize and use the operands in the simple form, and solves the problem of whether to replicate the advanced elements on the results page. * If you want to add help text on advanced operands, you'll find some in SQL Search * By providing a link for advanced search for each content type, it's possible to limit the taxonomy terms to vocabularies associated with that content type. * Have a look at the filtering within results (by both content type and category). You might want to do something similar, or else I'd be happy to contribute a port of that to core after your patch hits. In general, the new approach seems to move the core search module closer to what's done in SQL Search--that is, relying on native SQL matching rather than custom indexing. It may make sense to phase out SQL Search, and possibly introduce the options (native MySQL full text indexing, etc.) into the core module. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wed, 10 Aug 2005 01:15:14 +0000 : Steven Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/search_5.patch (43.99 KB) Keeping up to date. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 15 Aug 2005 20:39:47 +0000 : levavie Recent results must appear first. Please order the search by *decending date order*. Have you tried to search drupal for info lately? Then you will understand what I mean. Tons of results for 2002 and 2003 are mixed with recent results. 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Also, I agree that search could be ordered by modified date. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 01 Sep 2005 18:23:49 +0000 : m3avrck I get a similiar error trying to use this patched... line 442 is malformed. Checked that in my diff program and it highlights it weird, I bet one of those character encodings is causing a problem. Maybe because of such extensive work on search.module it would make more sense to post an *entirely* new file to avoid these problems we are having? Just a thought :)
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