Re: [development] Getting both better internal and external APIs intoDrupal 7
On 1/2/2008 2:34:42 PM, Earnie Boyd (earnie@users.sourceforge.net) wrote:
I understand the misfortune of a module named profile is the point of this thread. That module is relative only to user information. In order to make it clear to everyone looking at Drupal it needs renamed to User Profile because the word profile is too vague and has many connotations to properly denote the meaning of the module.
I really don't think renaming profile to user profile will help any since it is install profile that causes the confusion. And I'm not renaming advanced profile to advanced user profile. It's long enough of a name as it is. :P Michelle
Qualifiers just make it both tedious (instead of using one word, you use 2 or 3), and hence cause more confusion. Remember the taxonomy/category debacle (take 1, take 2, and take 3, and still not resolved?)
I would agree, and humbly suggest that we start brainstorming on better names for installation profile. Some suggestions: (some have been made already)- Distribution (or some variation of distros) seems like a close fit but also implies the software as Configuration bundles Installation Suites Configuration wizards Install Kits ???? Not attached to any of these but trying to start some solutions brainstorming.... ;) Dave On Jan 2, 2008, at 1:10 PM, Michelle Cox wrote:
On 1/2/2008 2:34:42 PM, Earnie Boyd (earnie@users.sourceforge.net) wrote:
I understand the misfortune of a module named profile is the point of this thread. That module is relative only to user information. In order to make it clear to everyone looking at Drupal it needs renamed to User Profile because the word profile is too vague and has many connotations to properly denote the meaning of the module.
I really don't think renaming profile to user profile will help any since it is install profile that causes the confusion. And I'm not renaming advanced profile to advanced user profile. It's long enough of a name as it is. :P
Michelle
On Jan 2, 2008 10:25 PM, David Metzler <metzlerd@metzlerd.com> wrote:
I would agree, and humbly suggest that we start brainstorming on better names for installation profile. Some suggestions: (some have been made already)-
Distribution (or some variation of distros) seems like a close fit but also implies the software as
That is actually what distros is. Distro is the short name for that.
Configuration bundles
Installation Suites
Configuration wizards
Install Kits
Let us avoid compounded names formed of many words. They are not intuitive. Here are others: Packages
????
Not attached to any of these but trying to start some solutions brainstorming.... ;)
Dave
On Jan 2, 2008, at 1:10 PM, Michelle Cox wrote:
On 1/2/2008 2:34:42 PM, Earnie Boyd (earnie@users.sourceforge.net) wrote:
I understand the misfortune of a module named profile is the point of this thread. That module is relative only to user information. In order to make it clear to everyone looking at Drupal it needs renamed to User Profile because the word profile is too vague and has many connotations to properly denote the meaning of the module.
I really don't think renaming profile to user profile will help any since it is install profile that causes the confusion. And I'm not renaming advanced profile to advanced user profile. It's long enough of a name as it is. :P
Michelle
-- Khalid M. Baheyeldin 2bits.com, Inc. http://2bits.com Drupal optimization, development, customization and consulting.
For the record, yeah I knew that's what distros meant, and it was that suggestion that got me thinking we needed to start a brainstorming session. I frankly would be happy with distros. Sorry if it came off like I was stealing ideas. Not sure I agree that compound words should be avoided...If they add clarity.... Dave On Jan 2, 2008, at 7:51 PM, Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:
On Jan 2, 2008 10:25 PM, David Metzler <metzlerd@metzlerd.com> wrote: I would agree, and humbly suggest that we start brainstorming on better names for installation profile. Some suggestions: (some have been made already)-
Distribution (or some variation of distros) seems like a close fit but also implies the software as
That is actually what distros is. Distro is the short name for that.
Configuration bundles
Installation Suites
Configuration wizards
Install Kits
Let us avoid compounded names formed of many words. They are not intuitive.
Here are others:
Packages
????
Not attached to any of these but trying to start some solutions brainstorming.... ;)
Dave
On Jan 2, 2008, at 1:10 PM, Michelle Cox wrote:
On 1/2/2008 2:34:42 PM, Earnie Boyd ( earnie@users.sourceforge.net) wrote:
I understand the misfortune of a module named profile is the
point of
this thread. That module is relative only to user information. In order to make it clear to everyone looking at Drupal it needs renamed to User Profile because the word profile is too vague and has many connotations to properly denote the meaning of the module.
I really don't think renaming profile to user profile will help any since it is install profile that causes the confusion. And I'm not renaming advanced profile to advanced user profile. It's long enough of a name as it is. :P
Michelle
-- Khalid M. Baheyeldin 2bits.com, Inc. http://2bits.com Drupal optimization, development, customization and consulting.
On Jan 2, 2008 11:06 PM, David Metzler <metzlerd@metzlerd.com> wrote:
For the record, yeah I knew that's what distros meant, and it was that suggestion that got me thinking we needed to start a brainstorming session. I frankly would be happy with distros. Sorry if it came off like I was stealing ideas.
Nah. Not what I meant.
Not sure I agree that compound words should be avoided...If they add clarity....
This is where we disagree. See Earnie Boyd's suggestions earlier in this thread and the replies to them. I don't agree with Earnie here, and agree with the counter arguments. e.g. "Install profile" and "user profile". Too much overloading of terms with qualifiers. KISS.
Dave On Jan 2, 2008, at 7:51 PM, Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:
On Jan 2, 2008 10:25 PM, David Metzler <metzlerd@metzlerd.com> wrote:
I would agree, and humbly suggest that we start brainstorming on better names for installation profile. Some suggestions: (some have been made already)-
Distribution (or some variation of distros) seems like a close fit but also implies the software as
That is actually what distros is. Distro is the short name for that.
Configuration bundles
Installation Suites
Configuration wizards
Install Kits
Let us avoid compounded names formed of many words. They are not intuitive.
Here are others:
Packages
????
Not attached to any of these but trying to start some solutions brainstorming.... ;)
Dave
On Jan 2, 2008, at 1:10 PM, Michelle Cox wrote:
On 1/2/2008 2:34:42 PM, Earnie Boyd ( earnie@users.sourceforge.net) wrote:
I understand the misfortune of a module named profile is the point of this thread. That module is relative only to user information. In order to make it clear to everyone looking at Drupal it needs renamed
to User Profile because the word profile is too vague and has many connotations to properly denote the meaning of the module.
I really don't think renaming profile to user profile will help any since it is install profile that causes the confusion. And I'm not renaming advanced profile to advanced user profile. It's long enough of a name as it is. :P
Michelle
-- Khalid M. Baheyeldin 2bits.com, Inc. http://2bits.com Drupal optimization, development, customization and consulting.
-- Khalid M. Baheyeldin 2bits.com, Inc. http://2bits.com Drupal optimization, development, customization and consulting.
Quoting Khalid Baheyeldin <kb@2bits.com>:
Not sure I agree that compound words should be avoided...If they add clarity....
This is where we disagree. See Earnie Boyd's suggestions earlier in this thread and the replies to them. I don't agree with Earnie here, and agree with the counter arguments.
e.g. "Install profile" and "user profile". Too much overloading of terms with qualifiers.
KISS.
I do disagree with avoiding compound words for module names and for this case finding any use of profile with the word user without being specific is tough which is why I was hounding on the subject. You have to use "user profile" in the quotes within Google's search form to find any use of the term. But I'm alright with stating that the use of the word profile within the Drupal Framework always relates to user. Earnie -- http://for-my-kids.com/ -- http://give-me-an-offer.com/
On 02.Jan.2008, at 10:51 PM, Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:
On Jan 2, 2008 10:25 PM, David Metzler <metzlerd@metzlerd.com> wrote: I would agree, and humbly suggest that we start brainstorming on better names for installation profile. Some suggestions: (some have been made already)-
Distribution (or some variation of distros) seems like a close fit but also implies the software as
That is actually what distros is. Distro is the short name for that.
"Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication." Leonardo DaVinci / liza
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