RE: [drupal-devel] Admin theme
If we do put a default admin theme in core, then it should be shipped default off. I find the CS admin theme essentially unusable and a shock when I navigate to it. Admittatly my pool of people I can survey numbers about twelve, but I asked them all and they find that what things they control (blocks, users, content) are disrupted when they navigate away from the look and feel of their current site. One small voice on the -1 crowd -sp
-----Original Message----- From: drupal-devel-bounces@drupal.org [mailto:drupal-devel-bounces@drupal.org] On Behalf Of Bèr Kessels Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 9:24 AM To: drupal-devel@drupal.org Subject: Re: [drupal-devel] Admin theme
On Monday 26 September 2005 17:49, James Walker wrote:
Ok... but I thought one of the big pushes for the admin theme camp is that there would be one true admin theme to rule them all... so that administration of a drupal site was uniform , and thus much easier to document (i.e. where to click, etc) ... then that information can be reliably written in docs (and books) without a "theme depenedent" caveat.
or am i missing something 'cause I'm not a usability guy?
No, I think you might be mmissing the same some others seem to overlook. I, and other consultants (AFAIK in th thread it are all small consultants who are "against" an admin theme in some way) want flexibility above all. Not one of my sites is the same. Not one site will have the same admin as another.
Thus A 'uniform' way is very hard. We really really really need something that is very flexible, if its up to me.
And from the comments in here, I get the idea that most people like the sections idea: select the pages that are served in an admin theme in the exact same way as we define paths for blocks.
So, my idea is that most people in this thread preferred: A core admin theme. A UI that allows you to define where theme 'FooBar' will be used. By default FooBar will be the admin theme.
Is that correct, people?
Ber
On 26-Sep-05, at 6:19 PM, Steven Peck wrote:
If we do put a default admin theme in core, then it should be shipped default off.
I find the CS admin theme essentially unusable and a shock when I navigate to it. Admittatly my pool of people I can survey numbers about twelve, but I asked them all and they find that what things they control (blocks, users, content) are disrupted when they navigate away from the look and feel of their current site.
One small voice on the -1 crowd
Agreed. The issue is random ass themes that have large tables in admin view. So...file bugs against the themes, and/or ship those specific themes with an "admin theme". Make a handbook page on theming that says "if you are going to do fancy fixed width themes, we suggest you use an admin theme and process X (e.g. sections, built into page.tpl.php, whatever) to handle the admin side". Actually, I'd love to see the CivicSpace admin theme as a *separate* theme project....then people could work with that plus sections. About a billion tasks are "do once" tasks that are done ONLY by site admins. Once. And install profiles will mean there are even LESS do once things that people touch. I also find it jarring to be taken out of my regular space. So -1 for having it in core. AFAIK, all core themes do not have problems with admin tables? -- Boris Mann http://www.bmannconsulting.com
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