We had a client who wanted the site's menu system to be used as the sole organizing principle. To allow editorial access based on menu items, however, we had to figure out how to write JOINs from the {menu_links} table to the {node} table, which is currently not supported. One result is the Menu Node API [1], which maintains a {menu_node} table that can be used by modules (such as Views) to write JOIN queries based on menu relationships. My question to the list: Should this tracking feature by in core? Please respond here: http://drupal.org/node/457450 -- Ken Rickard agentrickard@gmail.com http://ken.therickards.com [1] -- http://drupal.org/project/menu_node