[announcement] Integration of roundcube webmail in drupal
I have written a module for integration in drupal. A nice feature is the use of the adressbook from the CiviCRM Module if installed. Projekt page at drupal http://drupal.org/node/58466 Documentation you can found here http://wiki.polyformal.de/doku.php/drupal/modules/rcmail best regards Stefan Pampel -- / polyformal / | Stefan Pampel / | Kaesenstraße 8 | 50677 Köln - Germany | phone: +49 221 3103 122 | fax: +49 221 9311 9223 | http://www.polyformal.de/ |_____________________/
ÜBER COOL! Was just looking into something like this. Is there any interest in Dev community to develop connections to any well known mailing-list software (especialy those that have nice web archive interface like Mailman)? Best, Z On 4/13/06, Stefan Pampel <polyformal@gmail.com> wrote:
I have written a module for integration in drupal. A nice feature is the use of the adressbook from the CiviCRM Module if installed.
Projekt page at drupal http://drupal.org/node/58466 Documentation you can found here http://wiki.polyformal.de/doku.php/drupal/modules/rcmail
best regards
Stefan Pampel -- / polyformal /
| Stefan Pampel /
| Kaesenstraße 8
| 50677 Köln - Germany
| phone: +49 221 3103 122
| fax: +49 221 9311 9223
|_____________________/
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Wright, this is cool. The only drawback I see, is that roundcube doesn't disgrade gracefully. So it's of no use if someone doesn't use/have JavaScript. vg Am Donnerstag, 13. April 2006 16:36 schrieb zeljko blace:
ÜBER COOL!
Was just looking into something like this.
Is there any interest in Dev community to develop connections to any well known mailing-list software (especialy those that have nice web archive interface like Mailman)?
Best, Z
On 4/13/06, Stefan Pampel <polyformal@gmail.com> wrote:
I have written a module for integration in drupal. A nice feature is the use of the adressbook from the CiviCRM Module if installed.
Projekt page at drupal http://drupal.org/node/58466 Documentation you can found here http://wiki.polyformal.de/doku.php/drupal/modules/rcmail
best regards
Stefan Pampel -- / polyformal /
| Stefan Pampel / | | Kaesenstraße 8 | | 50677 Köln - Germany | | phone: +49 221 3103 122 | | fax: +49 221 9311 9223 | | http://www.polyformal.de/ | |_____________________/
-- http://basis.desk.org:8080/ASU2/TravelPlan
Goethe - "What is important in life is life, and not the result of life."
Disclaimer: I mean no offense to anyone who has developed Drupal-mailing-list-related modules or software before. It's entirely possible that some patch or module would have done everything I needed. Please correct me if so! On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 04:36:47PM +0200, zeljko blace wrote:
Is there any interest in Dev community to develop connections to any well known mailing-list software (especialy those that have nice web archive interface like Mailman)?
I don't know that I am "in the dev community" but I have done some preliminary Drupal + Mailman integration. If I could choose again, I would instead avoid the Mailman abstraction layer and implement my own list delivery system. I think it likely that I wrote more code and introduced more potential points of failure with the Mailman solution than I would have otherwise. That said, the mailing list system I did this for had the most specific set of requirements I have ever heard of. I ended up having to disable virtually every Mailman feature which was not directly related to delivering messages and catching bounces. I don't have a great deal of experience with other MLMs, but I would imagine the situation would be very similar. So, in conclusion, if you're interested in having a traditional email list with simple bits of integration (ie. new Drupal users are subscribed if they opt-in), integrating with an MLM might make a lot of sense. On the other hand, if you just need a means of delivering bulk messages to Drupal users, consider doing it all natively in PHP. (is that what og2list does? help them out if so!) HTH, -- Keegan Quinn <keegan@thebasement.org> http://keegan.sniz.org q="'" qq='echo q=\"$q\" qq=$q$qq$q \&\& eval \$qq' && eval $qq
Keegan Quinn wrote:
Disclaimer: I mean no offense to anyone who has developed Drupal-mailing-list-related modules or software before. It's entirely possible that some patch or module would have done everything I needed. Please correct me if so!
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 04:36:47PM +0200, zeljko blace wrote:
Is there any interest in Dev community to develop connections to any well known mailing-list software (especialy those that have nice web archive interface like Mailman)?
I don't know that I am "in the dev community" but I have done some preliminary Drupal + Mailman integration.
So did I. Together with Matt Westgate in 2003, I think.
If I could choose again, I would instead avoid the Mailman abstraction layer and implement my own list delivery system.
We came to that conclusion as well. This is also part of the reason for the existence of og2list.
I think it likely that I wrote more code and introduced more potential points of failure with the Mailman solution than I would have otherwise.
That said, the mailing list system I did this for had the most specific set of requirements I have ever heard of. I ended up having to disable virtually every Mailman feature which was not directly related to delivering messages and catching bounces. I don't have a great deal of experience with other MLMs, but I would imagine the situation would be very similar.
So, in conclusion, if you're interested in having a traditional email list with simple bits of integration (ie. new Drupal users are subscribed if they opt-in), integrating with an MLM might make a lot of sense.
Depends on the degree of integration you want to have. You can go easy and offer a subscription box that sends a "subscribe me" mail to the MLM and use this MLM for all other activities. This does not offer any Drupal integration, though. If you want Drupal integration then there are a couple of ways to do better (one being a mailman integration with mysql) but these things also have a lot of drawbacks.
On the other hand, if you just need a means of delivering bulk messages to Drupal users, consider doing it all natively in PHP.
(is that what og2list does? help them out if so!)
No, og2list aims to be a full MLM. Currently implemented is: - receive news posted to Drupal through the web interface by email - answer to these news through email, they will show up on the web interface - subscribe and unsubscribe through Drupal to do: - subscribe and unsubscribe by mail If you look for a newsletter module, look at simplenews. Og2list integrates directly with the MTA in order to achieve its goals, so I isn't usable for everybody. Cheers, Gerhard
On Apr 14, 2006, at 7:51 AM, Keegan Quinn wrote:
So, in conclusion, if you're interested in having a traditional email list with simple bits of integration (ie. new Drupal users are subscribed if they opt-in), integrating with an MLM might make a lot of sense.
On the other hand, if you just need a means of delivering bulk messages to Drupal users, consider doing it all natively in PHP. (is that what og2list does? help them out if so!)
FWIW, the MLM module at http://drupal.org/node/44580 was written to allow you to make these decisions without presenting yet another Mail- related UI to users. By writing backends for it (e.g. defining about 7 functions for subscribe, unsubscribe, etc), you can leverage the existing interface for creating new lists, subscribing, unsubscribing and posting. This gives users a single point of control over how messages are being delivered to them. It also lets you choose the best tool for the job (MLM, drupal-based, etc.) without changing the UI or losing your post history. A combination of the News module and MLM is being used to deliver larger-scale mailings (tens of thousands of recipients) With funding and participation, I would like to work on backends for CiviCRM/CiviMail, and repurpose on of the existing Mailman backends. Had og2list not been written so og-specific, we could have written a drupal-based backend and gained more flexibility for both initiatives. I believe that this is an important step in drupal-based mailings. There are use cases where of sending one message to a lot of people ( news, simplenews, massmailer) . There are cases where you want to segment recipients into predefined groups (og2list and other forum- backed list solutions). Another important step is consistent sub-listings, sub-groupings and filter-based mailings. For example, subscribing to notifications based on your location, subscribing to saved searches, flagging your interests for automated newsletters, etc. It occurs to me that you could write a view-based backend, if we had more generalized queuing stuff. By writing a consistent frontend and encouraging useful backends, I'm trying to create a framework that would support these present and future use cases. Allie Micka pajunas interactive, inc. http://www.pajunas.com scalable web hosting and open source strategies
Allie Micka wrote:
of the existing Mailman backends. Had og2list not been written so og-specific, we could have written a drupal-based backend and gained more flexibility for both initiatives.
Og2list is not very og-specific, at least the mailing backend isn't. the mailing backend only knows about existing recievers which it looks up in a database. It also gets mail to be sent from that database and stores mail for valid receivers in it again.
By writing a consistent frontend and encouraging useful backends, I'm trying to create a framework that would support these present and future use cases.
The scripts created for og2list can be re-used for other applications quite easily. Cheers, Gerhard
this is so cool. awesome, cant wait to try it out and see the integration :) lobo --- Stefan Pampel <polyformal@gmail.com> wrote:
I have written a module for integration in drupal. A nice feature is the use of the adressbook from the CiviCRM Module if installed.
Projekt page at drupal http://drupal.org/node/58466 Documentation you can found here
http://wiki.polyformal.de/doku.php/drupal/modules/rcmail
best regards
Stefan Pampel -- / polyformal /
| Stefan Pampel /
| Kaesenstra�e 8
| 50677 K�ln - Germany
| phone: +49 221 3103 122
| fax: +49 221 9311 9223
|_____________________/
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zeljko blace