I'm re-posting this because the last time I got no response. I'm like THISCLOSE to making this work if I can just figure out this last little bit. If anyone has any notion, please share. It might just be the little bit I need to get over the hump. Thanks. -------- Original Message -------- I am proposing a new project: OG User Roles. I have written to this list before and what I discovered was that I really needed to formulate a proposal for some sort of user_access hook that would include permissions granted from other modules to the final list of permissions for a user during a particular process. That, essentially, is the modification to user_access that I have created so that my module would work. Briefly, my OG User Roles module is designed to assign role(s) to a user restricted to the OG group he is in. Details on it are here: http://drupal.org/node/87679. What I have found is that my modified user_access (and therefore my proposed hook) works for node listing/view/updating/deleting, but NOT creating. I am able to create nodes with the modified user_access only if I call the node_add() function directly. Not a real good solution. So, I'm back here to ask: What else, besides user_access, does the default node/add mechanism call for permissions checks? Here's the scenario: I've given a user in a group a role which allows him to create a document. When his group menu comes up, he sees a "create" link to the document he's been given access to create (that means my modified user_access is working). However, when he clicks on the "create document" link, he gets "Access Denied" message. I wrote some debug code that writes out to a file the variable values from my modified user_access function when the user clicks on the "create document" link. What I noted is that the corect permissions and group context are always returned. What happens when it fails, i.e., user receives "Access Denied", is that the function loses the arg (arg(0), arg(1), arg(2)) values. They just disappear. This never happens on successful submissions. As you can probably see, I can't very well propose a hook if my simulated hook is not working correctly. Can someone give me some clue as to where I need to look in the node/add process to figure out why I'm losing the arg values and getting the denied error when user_access is bringing back the correct permissions? Thanks so much. -ron p.s. This could also be part of the solution for the proposed temporary access "peek" module. -- Ron Parker Software Creations http://www.scbbs.com Self-Administration Web Site http://saw.scbbs.com SDSS Subscription Mgmt Service http://sdss.scbbs.com Central Ave Dance Ensemble http://www.centralavedance.com R & B Salsa http://www.randbsalsa.com