[drupal-devel] how Yahoo uses Drupal?
This is a must read :) http://www.boxesandarrows.com/archives/implementing_a_pattern_library_in_the... Goba
Very cool. I know Erin Malone from our work in AifIA. Be aware that Christina Wodtke and Michael Angeles who have both been active on the Drupal scene are also Information Architects with a good "rep" in that community. I think it does reflect on the respect Drupal commands among Information Architects and consultants. Also note that Drupal was chosen by Yahoo - in part because of the powerful taxonomy system. I stress this because I fear that some core developers are not aware of this. Drupal would not be what it is - if it only had a "nuke" like category tree. Best Gunnar
This is a must read :)
http://www.boxesandarrows.com/archives/implementing_a_pattern_library_in_the...
Goba
Gunnar Langemark gunnar@langemark.com
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consultants. Also note that Drupal was chosen by Yahoo - in part because of the powerful taxonomy system. I stress this because I fear that some core developers are not aware of this. Drupal would not be what it is - if it only had a "nuke" like category tree.
Ummm .. I think all of the core developers love taxonomy. It's one of the best things about Drupal. Our problem with taxonomy is mostly the crufty code =) We want to make taxonomy a more powerful tool, that is easier to use. - -- Adrian Rossouw Drupal developer and Bryght Guy http://drupal.org | http://bryght.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCd4H5gegMqdGlkasRAgf0AKDAlFO+jS45tnygR927nOF2JBixVwCeJ4nw IJBwrEKWUeX2lw2ackKpveE= =rtUq -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Monday 02 May 2005 21:41, gunnar wrote:
I think it does reflect on the respect Drupal commands among Information Architects and consultants. Also note that Drupal was chosen by Yahoo - in part because of the powerful taxonomy system.
Seconded. I make my living as an IT consultant, and use Drupal both personally and professionally. I can't speak for others, but taxonomy was 75% or more of the reason why I chose Drupal over the alternatives, in both of those settings. Drupal code ranges from beautiful to crufty, but the core design has an elegance seldom matched in other CMS software. There are some Really Bad Schemas (TM) out there with other content managers. Code can be thrown away, but data design lives on and on -- for good or for ill. Grace Hopper, one of the inventors of the COBOL language, often used to remark that "in 'data processing' everyone thinks about the processing, but hardly anyone thinks about the data." Drupal's designers understand this maxim at a deep, intuitive level, a fact that is quite evident to other IT professionals. Scott -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Scott Courtney Drupal user name: "syscrusher" http://drupal.org/user/9184 scott at 4th dot com Drupal projects: http://drupal.org/project/user/9184 Sandbox: http://cvs.drupal.org/viewcvs/drupal/contributions/sandbox/syscrusher
On 03 May 2005, at 03:41, gunnar wrote:
Also note that Drupal was chosen by Yahoo - in part because of the powerful taxonomy system. I stress this because I fear that some core developers are not aware of this.
I remember us (i) extending the taxonomy system (eg. integrating folksonomies) and (ii) making it easier to use (eg. improved administration interfaces). However, I don't remember us removing any functionality. To make a long story short (and per Gunnar's suggestion); let this be a good reason to improve the taxonomy system. And for God's sake, can someone "blog this in a forum topic" (tm) and promote it to drupal.org's front page? ;-) -- Dries Buytaert :: http://www.buytaert.net/
Gabor Hojtsy wrote:
This is a must read :)
http://www.boxesandarrows.com/archives/implementing_a_pattern_library_in_the...
Goba
Wow - we could use this pattern.module on drupal.org. Perhaps Yahoo will share the source with us? If anyone has a relationship with the article authors, please ask. If not, it wouldn't be too hard to reproduce. Also, the article authors probably can give us feedback on the UI of drupal itself. -moshe
On 3-May-05, at 6:42 AM, Moshe Weitzman wrote:
Gabor Hojtsy wrote:
This is a must read :) http://www.boxesandarrows.com/archives/ implementing_a_pattern_library_in_the_real_world_a_yahoo_case_study.ph p Goba
Wow - we could use this pattern.module on drupal.org. Perhaps Yahoo will share the source with us? If anyone has a relationship with the article authors, please ask. If not, it wouldn't be too hard to reproduce. Also, the article authors probably can give us feedback on the UI of drupal itself.
I believe Roland has some friends in Yahoo, and he's already made it known to them that we'd be happy to help them with Drupal in any way (we noticed this article/posted about it a couple of weeks back). I don't know that there is any "source" that wouldn't be super specific to what Yahoo was trying to build. What parts of custom dev do you think would be interesting? Or just a general download of the bundle? -- Boris Mann http://www.bryght.com Vancouver 778-896-2747 / San Francisco 415-367-3595 SKYPE borismann
This is a must read :) http://www.boxesandarrows.com/archives/ implementing_a_pattern_library_in_the_real_world_a_yahoo_case_study.ph p
Wow - we could use this pattern.module on drupal.org. Perhaps Yahoo will share the source with us? If anyone has a relationship with the article authors, please ask. If not, it wouldn't be too hard to reproduce. Also, the article authors probably can give us feedback on the UI of drupal itself.
I believe Roland has some friends in Yahoo, and he's already made it known to them that we'd be happy to help them with Drupal in any way (we noticed this article/posted about it a couple of weeks back).
Since the date on this article says april 29 (which was last friday), you should really have good inside sources :) Goba
On 3-May-05, at 8:15 AM, Gabor Hojtsy wrote:
This is a must read :) http://www.boxesandarrows.com/archives/ implementing_a_pattern_library_in_the_real_world_a_yahoo_case_study. ph p
Wow - we could use this pattern.module on drupal.org. Perhaps Yahoo will share the source with us? If anyone has a relationship with the article authors, please ask. If not, it wouldn't be too hard to reproduce. Also, the article authors probably can give us feedback on the UI of drupal itself. I believe Roland has some friends in Yahoo, and he's already made it known to them that we'd be happy to help them with Drupal in any way (we noticed this article/posted about it a couple of weeks back).
Since the date on this article says april 29 (which was last friday), you should really have good inside sources :)
March 8, 2005: http://www.bryght.com/node/205 -- Boris Mann http://www.bryght.com Vancouver 778-896-2747 / San Francisco 415-367-3595 SKYPE borismann
I believe Roland has some friends in Yahoo, and he's already made it known to them that we'd be happy to help them with Drupal in any way (we noticed this article/posted about it a couple of weeks back).
Since the date on this article says april 29 (which was last friday), you should really have good inside sources :)
March 8, 2005: http://www.bryght.com/node/205
Ah, I see. Thanks for the link. It seems that I am behind with catching up with bryght stuff... Goba
I don't know that there is any "source" that wouldn't be super specific to what Yahoo was trying to build. What parts of custom dev do you think would be interesting? Or just a general download of the bundle?
the screenshot of a pattern (http://www.boxesandarrows.com/archives/images/042405_Pattern/better_sample_p...) looks relatively generic to me, and not yahoo specific.
Gabor Hojtsy wrote:
This is a must read :)
http://www.boxesandarrows.com/archives/implementing_a_pattern_library_in_the...
Goba
Agreed. Thanks for posting this, Goba. A lot that can be learned from this one article. It provides lots of food for thought on many ideas. ..chris
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