Re: [drupal-devel] Dealing with spam (was rel=nofollow)
That was ecactly my concern and idea. I found that on all my sites that were hit by spam (the five sites I maintain) the spam was exactly the same. My most popular of the five was hit first. But the other four had to be learned to handle the *exact same spam messages*.
I'm being increasingly convinced by the idea of sharing spam as a feed. I've started step one of the process, which is importing the MT blacklist. This has a similar effect I think to sharing the spam. And is an easy first step as the infrastructure (i.e. the central blacklist and update feeds) already exists. I'm about 90% through coding the module (just got to do the actual insert and delete. And check it all works, this is only my second module and the first was only two hooks...). The second step is a second module. I'm thinking this should: 1) Provide an MT masterlist format (all their formats) feed of all MT items the site knows. 2) Provide a feed of all spam_custom entries in an RSS (based) feed. 3) Provide a feed of all spam_token entries in an RSS (based) feed. 4) Provide a feed of all trapped spam in an RSS feed. 5) Provide an XML-RPC push/pull mechanism for harvesting the above information. 6) Provide the ability to turn on/off each of the above. 7) Provide the ability to require a specific permission for each of the above. I'm still not certain of the need to keep any of the first 4 items as secured private things. Keeping them open allows us to easily share with everyone. But, if the module allows public and private sharing then it doesn't matter and can work for everyone. I really am not going to start the second module until I've migrated. Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
FYI: Matt Mullenweg got back to me; I'll be meeting up with him today to discuss this further. Here is his reply to my idea, echoing our thoughts of a p2p xml-rpc solution: Me:
P.S. The other email I sent you from the Drupal-devel list has to do with coordinating an effort to build an open-source anti-spam killer that can be plugged into any OS CMS or blogware. We all love the work that's been done on Spam Karma and matches much of the work that's already gone into Drupal's spam.module. It really makes no sense for both projects to duplicate effort, so I'd like to work with you to pioneer possibly the first true multiple OS software cross-over project (that was a mouthful!). Lemme know what you think.
Matt:
Something to think more about. The next big thing coming out is a peer-to-peer semi-centralized method for sharing blacklists, it'll be over standard XML-RPC so once that's out I hope plugins can be developed for all the platforms, even wikis.
FYI, Dave Sifry from Technorati is calling for a Spam Squashing Summit @ Web 2.0: http://www.sifry.com/alerts/archives/000272.html http://www.technorati.com/tag/spamsummit
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