Re: [development] Issue queue links from project pages?
At 08:28 AM 5/7/2009, Margie wrote:
Most people already have all sorts of anxiety about "I'm not as good as that." I think the maintainers list could tend to reinforce the star power of a few people, but that's a whole psychological question.
I agree with Margie on this. We recently had a discussion about warming new people into the fold, trying to lower barriers to various types of contribution, and I think this structure will tend to work against that. Yes, it's largely a psychological question, meaning "interface design issue". Meanwhile, if you want to talk about wasted space, listing the "Latest 5 Issues" is useless to anyone except the module maintainers. LVX TF --- As If Productions http://www.asifproductions.com Interactive Worlds and Immersive Obsessions
As If Productions wrote:
Meanwhile, if you want to talk about wasted space, listing the "Latest 5 Issues" is useless to anyone except the module maintainers.
It's not that useful to me, either, though maybe for really small modules.
On May 7, 2009, at 11:46 AM, As If Productions wrote:
Meanwhile, if you want to talk about wasted space, listing the "Latest 5 Issues" is useless to anyone except the module maintainers.
Blocks like this are a key part of Mark + Leisa's design for the new site. The principle (as I understand it) is "show the huge range of stuff happening". Again, I defer to their expertise in these areas. I have lots of opinions about UX and UI, but ultimately, there're all based on speculation and my own feelings/intuition, not user testing or other quantifiable methods. Also, I reject the notion that the 5 most recent issues are "useless". It's possible it'll help people avoid duplicates. Or, if 3 of the top five issues have titles like "Fatal error when upgrading to 6.x-2.5" that might give you a hint to think twice before upgrading to 6.x-2.5 when you're staring at that "recommended" release. ;) Certainly, I think the 5 most recent issues is far more useful when looking at a project node than "patch bingo" links. :( I'd love to remove the contributor + developer blocks on project/*, but the last time I did that (on the issue queue pages themselves), there was a howl and outcry. So, I'll just wait for the initial redesign deployment to finally kill those blocks from "my" part of the site. ;) Cheers, -Derek (dww)
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 1:46 PM, As If Productions < everyone@asifproductions.com> wrote:
Meanwhile, if you want to talk about wasted space, listing the "Latest 5 Issues" is useless to anyone except the module maintainers.
Could we possibly have the last 5 issues tagged XYZ where XYZ is some tag we all agree upon? Or use flag maybe? Trying to think of a way it could be done that wouldn't take more coding. The point being to highlight issues that the maintainer wants you to know about, not just the latest ones. Michelle
On May 8, 2009, at 7:00 PM, Michelle Cox wrote:
Could we possibly have the last 5 issues tagged XYZ where XYZ is some tag we all agree upon? Or use flag maybe? Trying to think of a way it could be done that wouldn't take more coding. The point being to highlight issues that the maintainer wants you to know about, not just the latest ones.
Interesting idea. However, I believe that's more a job for the forthcoming "Links" block: http://infrastructure.drupal.org/drupal.org-style-guide/prototype/modules_de... (scroll down -- on that mockup, it's currently on the bottom, though the order of blocks on that page got changed) Create "Links" block for project nodes http://drupal.org/node/372027 Add a mechanism to store custom links per-project http://drupal.org/node/425742 Again, as I understand it based on a brief conversation with Mark at DCDC, these "recent x" blocks are just meant to give people a sense of how much stuff is going on, not necessarily that people are expected to get much work done via those blocks. That said, I'd love Mark and/or Leisa to jump in and help me out here. ;) Cheers, -Derek (dww)
Interesting idea. However, I believe that's more a job for the forthcoming "Links" block:
I would put it more simple: Just display the x issues that users *flagged* recently. :) (note, not based on amount of flags, but most recent flags) sun
Interesting idea. However, I believe that's more a job for the forthcoming "Links" block:
I don't think it's the same as the links block. This would be more automated. Sort of like a sticky tag, except you want something that all maintainers have access to. So it could sort first by "flag" (or whatever gets used) and then by timestamp. If nothing is flagged, you get what you have now. If there are some issues that are getting duped a lot or for some other reason the maintainer really wants you to see, you flag them and they show up first in that block. On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Daniel F. Kudwien <news@unleashedmind.com>wrote:
I would put it more simple:
Just display the x issues that users *flagged* recently. :)
(note, not based on amount of flags, but most recent flags)
sun
This points out a problem with the idea. I'd like it to be the maintainer that flags the issues to go there. So that makes it more complex because you not only have to look at the flag but at who flagged it. Unless we just go on an honor system that no one but the maintainer should use a particular flag. Dunno how well that would work. Probably not well, I think. Michelle
On May 9, 2009, at 5:48 PM, Michelle Cox wrote:
I don't think it's the same as the links block.
Can we please move this discussion to a feature request in the project_issue queue that's tagged with "drupal.org redesign"? Thanks, -Derek (dww)
Quoting Michelle Cox <shellmultimedia@gmail.com>:
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 1:46 PM, As If Productions < everyone@asifproductions.com> wrote:
Meanwhile, if you want to talk about wasted space, listing the "Latest 5 Issues" is useless to anyone except the module maintainers.
Could we possibly have the last 5 issues tagged XYZ where XYZ is some tag we all agree upon? Or use flag maybe? Trying to think of a way it could be done that wouldn't take more coding. The point being to highlight issues that the maintainer wants you to know about, not just the latest ones.
I don't like the idea. Seems like wasted effort to me. When I visit my issue queues I like to see all of the open issues and the ones with the latest comments. I open the list of issues and narrow down the view. Then use that as an index page to open the interesting ones. I think this tag/flag would just get in the way. -- Earnie -- http://r-feed.com/ -- http://for-my-kids.com/ -- http://www.4offer.biz/ -- http://give-me-an-offer.com/
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