Hi all, I am looking into the phpgacl and after searching mailing lists, and drupal.org (via google, the search form seems not to be there) But found very little. eg: http://lists.drupal.org/archives/development/2004-03/msg00566.html Is there any reason why I should not think of phpgacl and Drupal together? (I am wondering why nobody has considered phpgacl for Drupal) Could you recommend me some group management modules in Drupal? Or any hints, anything that relates to permission control & gacl? I am thinking about including phpgacl into Drupal. Thank you very much, roman
Roman- The phpgacl project appears to be stagnant. No new releases since 2006. SVN untouched for the past 20 months. Does anyone still support the project? The only activity on the mailing list these days seems to be spam. http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=phpgacl-devel Not sure why anyone would invest time into such an integration. As for Drupal, start with Organic Groups, the mother of all access control modules. -- Ken Rickard agentrickard@gmail.com http://ken.therickards.com On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Roman Chyla <roman.chyla@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I am looking into the phpgacl and after searching mailing lists, and drupal.org (via google, the search form seems not to be there) But found very little. eg: http://lists.drupal.org/archives/development/2004-03/msg00566.html
Is there any reason why I should not think of phpgacl and Drupal together? (I am wondering why nobody has considered phpgacl for Drupal)
Could you recommend me some group management modules in Drupal? Or any hints, anything that relates to permission control & gacl? I am thinking about including phpgacl into Drupal.
Thank you very much,
roman
Ken, Thank you for the reply. The phpgacl was the best I was able to find. If anyone knows about any library that does the similar thing, please let me know. I know Joomla! is using phpgacl and it was ported to python recently too (spiff.debain.org) -- it may look stall, but the documentation is very complete and it does provide good services. I am behind in understanding Drupal6 but I think I know quite well D5 and it's access control. And I found it not flexible enough, so if things hasn't changed for D6 I would have troubles setting fine grained access permission for individuals and/or groups on a item-level and/or collection basis. Besides in this project, data and documents are stored in an external system and Drupal should be used to provide access control interface and act as an arbiter for every fulltext request. So there isn't any notion of nodes here. The external system is a digital library, made of many journals, each journal has its own subscribers and the editorial board should manage its own subscribers -- that's why I needed groups. I did not install OG yet, but comparing it with CivicCRM, it seems to me there cannot be subgroups inside of the OG groups. We need to isolate journals but still need to have groups inside their space (inside their groups). CivicCRM looks good though. Please let me know if there is anything I didn't see. Any experience to share? Thanks Best, roman On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Ken Rickard <agentrickard@gmail.com> wrote:
Roman-
The phpgacl project appears to be stagnant. No new releases since 2006. SVN untouched for the past 20 months.
Does anyone still support the project?
The only activity on the mailing list these days seems to be spam.
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=phpgacl-devel
Not sure why anyone would invest time into such an integration.
As for Drupal, start with Organic Groups, the mother of all access control modules.
-- Ken Rickard agentrickard@gmail.com http://ken.therickards.com
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Roman Chyla <roman.chyla@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I am looking into the phpgacl and after searching mailing lists, and drupal.org (via google, the search form seems not to be there) But found very little. eg: http://lists.drupal.org/archives/development/2004-03/msg00566.html
Is there any reason why I should not think of phpgacl and Drupal together? (I am wondering why nobody has considered phpgacl for Drupal)
Could you recommend me some group management modules in Drupal? Or any hints, anything that relates to permission control & gacl? I am thinking about including phpgacl into Drupal.
Thank you very much,
roman
You might check out the acl.module cheers, -tao Roman Chyla wrote:
Ken, Thank you for the reply. The phpgacl was the best I was able to find. If anyone knows about any library that does the similar thing, please let me know. I know Joomla! is using phpgacl and it was ported to python recently too (spiff.debain.org) -- it may look stall, but the documentation is very complete and it does provide good services.
I am behind in understanding Drupal6 but I think I know quite well D5 and it's access control. And I found it not flexible enough, so if things hasn't changed for D6 I would have troubles setting fine grained access permission for individuals and/or groups on a item-level and/or collection basis. Besides in this project, data and documents are stored in an external system and Drupal should be used to provide access control interface and act as an arbiter for every fulltext request. So there isn't any notion of nodes here. The external system is a digital library, made of many journals, each journal has its own subscribers and the editorial board should manage its own subscribers -- that's why I needed groups. I did not install OG yet, but comparing it with CivicCRM, it seems to me there cannot be subgroups inside of the OG groups. We need to isolate journals but still need to have groups inside their space (inside their groups). CivicCRM looks good though.
Please let me know if there is anything I didn't see. Any experience to share? Thanks
Best,
roman
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Ken Rickard <agentrickard@gmail.com> wrote:
Roman-
The phpgacl project appears to be stagnant. No new releases since 2006. SVN untouched for the past 20 months.
Does anyone still support the project?
The only activity on the mailing list these days seems to be spam.
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=phpgacl-devel
Not sure why anyone would invest time into such an integration.
As for Drupal, start with Organic Groups, the mother of all access control modules.
-- Ken Rickard agentrickard@gmail.com http://ken.therickards.com
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Roman Chyla <roman.chyla@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I am looking into the phpgacl and after searching mailing lists, and drupal.org (via google, the search form seems not to be there) But found very little. eg: http://lists.drupal.org/archives/development/2004-03/msg00566.html
Is there any reason why I should not think of phpgacl and Drupal together? (I am wondering why nobody has considered phpgacl for Drupal)
Could you recommend me some group management modules in Drupal? Or any hints, anything that relates to permission control & gacl? I am thinking about including phpgacl into Drupal.
Thank you very much,
roman
You might find the ACL module documentation [1] helpful. [1] http://api.freestylesystems.co.uk/api/file/contributions/acl/acl.module/5 psynaptic http://freestylesystems.co.uk On 8 May 2008, at 18:16, Tao Starbow wrote:
You might check out the acl.module
cheers, -tao
Roman Chyla wrote:
Ken, Thank you for the reply. The phpgacl was the best I was able to find. If anyone knows about any library that does the similar thing, please let me know. I know Joomla! is using phpgacl and it was ported to python recently too (spiff.debain.org) -- it may look stall, but the documentation is very complete and it does provide good services.
I am behind in understanding Drupal6 but I think I know quite well D5 and it's access control. And I found it not flexible enough, so if things hasn't changed for D6 I would have troubles setting fine grained access permission for individuals and/or groups on a item-level and/or collection basis. Besides in this project, data and documents are stored in an external system and Drupal should be used to provide access control interface and act as an arbiter for every fulltext request. So there isn't any notion of nodes here. The external system is a digital library, made of many journals, each journal has its own subscribers and the editorial board should manage its own subscribers -- that's why I needed groups. I did not install OG yet, but comparing it with CivicCRM, it seems to me there cannot be subgroups inside of the OG groups. We need to isolate journals but still need to have groups inside their space (inside their groups). CivicCRM looks good though.
Please let me know if there is anything I didn't see. Any experience to share? Thanks
Best,
roman
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Ken Rickard <agentrickard@gmail.com> wrote:
Roman-
The phpgacl project appears to be stagnant. No new releases since 2006. SVN untouched for the past 20 months.
Does anyone still support the project?
The only activity on the mailing list these days seems to be spam.
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=phpgacl- devel
Not sure why anyone would invest time into such an integration.
As for Drupal, start with Organic Groups, the mother of all access control modules.
-- Ken Rickard agentrickard@gmail.com http://ken.therickards.com
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Roman Chyla <roman.chyla@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I am looking into the phpgacl and after searching mailing lists, and drupal.org (via google, the search form seems not to be there) But found very little. eg: http://lists.drupal.org/archives/development/2004-03/msg00566.html
Is there any reason why I should not think of phpgacl and Drupal together? (I am wondering why nobody has considered phpgacl for Drupal)
Could you recommend me some group management modules in Drupal? Or any hints, anything that relates to permission control & gacl? I am thinking about including phpgacl into Drupal.
Thank you very much,
roman
Thank you, Tao and Richard, I have seen the ACL module and it is not a good match for this. What you can do is only user<->object permission. That is too simple. roman On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 7:53 PM, Richard Burford <rich@freestylesystems.co.uk> wrote:
You might find the ACL module documentation [1] helpful.
[1] http://api.freestylesystems.co.uk/api/file/contributions/acl/acl.module/5
psynaptic http://freestylesystems.co.uk
On 8 May 2008, at 18:16, Tao Starbow wrote:
You might check out the acl.module
cheers, -tao
Roman Chyla wrote:
Ken, Thank you for the reply. The phpgacl was the best I was able to find. If anyone knows about any library that does the similar thing, please let me know. I know Joomla! is using phpgacl and it was ported to python recently too (spiff.debain.org) -- it may look stall, but the documentation is very complete and it does provide good services.
I am behind in understanding Drupal6 but I think I know quite well D5 and it's access control. And I found it not flexible enough, so if things hasn't changed for D6 I would have troubles setting fine grained access permission for individuals and/or groups on a item-level and/or collection basis. Besides in this project, data and documents are stored in an external system and Drupal should be used to provide access control interface and act as an arbiter for every fulltext request. So there isn't any notion of nodes here. The external system is a digital library, made of many journals, each journal has its own subscribers and the editorial board should manage its own subscribers -- that's why I needed groups. I did not install OG yet, but comparing it with CivicCRM, it seems to me there cannot be subgroups inside of the OG groups. We need to isolate journals but still need to have groups inside their space (inside their groups). CivicCRM looks good though.
Please let me know if there is anything I didn't see. Any experience to share? Thanks
Best,
roman
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Ken Rickard <agentrickard@gmail.com> wrote:
Roman-
The phpgacl project appears to be stagnant. No new releases since
SVN untouched for the past 20 months.
Does anyone still support the project?
The only activity on the mailing list these days seems to be spam.
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=phpgacl-devel
Not sure why anyone would invest time into such an integration.
As for Drupal, start with Organic Groups, the mother of all access control modules.
-- Ken Rickard agentrickard@gmail.com http://ken.therickards.com
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Roman Chyla <roman.chyla@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I am looking into the phpgacl and after searching mailing lists, and drupal.org (via google, the search form seems not to be there) But found very little. eg: http://lists.drupal.org/archives/development/2004-03/msg00566.html
Is there any reason why I should not think of phpgacl and Drupal together? (I am wondering why nobody has considered phpgacl for Drupal)
Could you recommend me some group management modules in Drupal? Or any hints, anything that relates to permission control & gacl? I am thinking about including phpgacl into Drupal.
Thank you very much,
roman
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