[drupal-devel] re: that node design mock-ups.
Hi, Because i do not believe in telling others what they should do, I started the node-redesign mock-up in the way I think it needs to be done: Bottom-up. (http://drupal.org/node/15506#comment-25337_ Chris, I really hope you do not mistake my comments for criticism, or as working against your project. In contrary, I am merely trying to help this project move forward. Drupal has a huge difficulty: its modularity. That has prevented us to make or fix the UI in a good way. The modularity dictates us to make changes to the UI structural, not on a per-case basis. That actually goes for all changes: They cannot be on a per-case basis, but need to be somehow structural. The places where that has been done, are in fact the places where problems start occurring; those places will become inconsistent. A slightly off-topic example of this happened to me yesterday: a client of mine phoned me about wanting to change something to the comment settings. And he simply could not find the comment settings. That is because he expected all site settings to be under administrate > settings. But the comment settings are not there, no, they are inconsistently placed under a tab on the comment-moderation page! I really want to avoid introducing yet another amount of possible inconsistencies, by designing a page for each node-type, each node-type in each case, hell, even each node-type for each role, in each case. Because it is not so that they *can* look different for each site, each role, each node type, they simply *will*, eventually appear different. That's where we have the nodeapis for: To make them different for each case. This all dictates we take this project structurally, start bottom up: What can nodeapi do, where can it do that, what can appear, what not etc. The only thing that is required, ATM is the title, all other elements might (and thus eventually will) appear or disappear. Bèr -- | Bèr Kessels | webschuur.com | website development | | Turnhoutsebaan 34/3 | 2140 Antwerpen | België | | IM: ber@jabber.org.uk | MSN: berkessels@gmx.net | | pers: bler.webschuur.com | prof: www.webschuur.com | -- Regards, Bèr -- [ Bèr Kessels | Drupal services www.webschuur.com ]
No problem. Go read my reply: http://drupal.org/node/15506#comment-25366 :) Chris On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:30:23 +0100, Bèr Kessels <berdrupal@tiscali.be> wrote:
Hi,
Because i do not believe in telling others what they should do, I started the node-redesign mock-up in the way I think it needs to be done: Bottom-up. (http://drupal.org/node/15506#comment-25337_ Chris, I really hope you do not mistake my comments for criticism, or as working against your project. In contrary, I am merely trying to help this project move forward.
Drupal has a huge difficulty: its modularity. That has prevented us to make or fix the UI in a good way. The modularity dictates us to make changes to the UI structural, not on a per-case basis. That actually goes for all changes: They cannot be on a per-case basis, but need to be somehow structural. The places where that has been done, are in fact the places where problems start occurring; those places will become inconsistent.
A slightly off-topic example of this happened to me yesterday: a client of mine phoned me about wanting to change something to the comment settings. And he simply could not find the comment settings. That is because he expected all site settings to be under administrate > settings. But the comment settings are not there, no, they are inconsistently placed under a tab on the comment-moderation page!
I really want to avoid introducing yet another amount of possible inconsistencies, by designing a page for each node-type, each node-type in each case, hell, even each node-type for each role, in each case. Because it is not so that they *can* look different for each site, each role, each node type, they simply *will*, eventually appear different. That's where we have the nodeapis for: To make them different for each case.
This all dictates we take this project structurally, start bottom up: What can nodeapi do, where can it do that, what can appear, what not etc. The only thing that is required, ATM is the title, all other elements might (and thus eventually will) appear or disappear.
Bèr -- | Bèr Kessels | webschuur.com | website development | | Turnhoutsebaan 34/3 | 2140 Antwerpen | België | | IM: ber@jabber.org.uk | MSN: berkessels@gmx.net | | pers: bler.webschuur.com | prof: www.webschuur.com |
-- Regards, Bèr -- [ Bèr Kessels | Drupal services www.webschuur.com ]
Thought this might interest you: http://blog.simon-cozens.org/6785.html On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 10:10:45 -0800, Chris Messina <chris.messina@gmail.com> wrote:
No problem. Go read my reply: http://drupal.org/node/15506#comment-25366
:)
Chris
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 14:30:23 +0100, Bèr Kessels <berdrupal@tiscali.be> wrote:
Hi,
Because i do not believe in telling others what they should do, I started the node-redesign mock-up in the way I think it needs to be done: Bottom-up. (http://drupal.org/node/15506#comment-25337_ Chris, I really hope you do not mistake my comments for criticism, or as working against your project. In contrary, I am merely trying to help this project move forward.
Drupal has a huge difficulty: its modularity. That has prevented us to make or fix the UI in a good way. The modularity dictates us to make changes to the UI structural, not on a per-case basis. That actually goes for all changes: They cannot be on a per-case basis, but need to be somehow structural. The places where that has been done, are in fact the places where problems start occurring; those places will become inconsistent.
A slightly off-topic example of this happened to me yesterday: a client of mine phoned me about wanting to change something to the comment settings. And he simply could not find the comment settings. That is because he expected all site settings to be under administrate > settings. But the comment settings are not there, no, they are inconsistently placed under a tab on the comment-moderation page!
I really want to avoid introducing yet another amount of possible inconsistencies, by designing a page for each node-type, each node-type in each case, hell, even each node-type for each role, in each case. Because it is not so that they *can* look different for each site, each role, each node type, they simply *will*, eventually appear different. That's where we have the nodeapis for: To make them different for each case.
This all dictates we take this project structurally, start bottom up: What can nodeapi do, where can it do that, what can appear, what not etc. The only thing that is required, ATM is the title, all other elements might (and thus eventually will) appear or disappear.
Bèr -- | Bèr Kessels | webschuur.com | website development | | Turnhoutsebaan 34/3 | 2140 Antwerpen | België | | IM: ber@jabber.org.uk | MSN: berkessels@gmx.net | | pers: bler.webschuur.com | prof: www.webschuur.com |
-- Regards, Bèr -- [ Bèr Kessels | Drupal services www.webschuur.com ]
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