On 15 Jul 2011, at 2:27 AM, Roger wrote:

Hi all
I have a hd with ubuntu 11.04 server installed.
I followed the instructions to install Aegir on the server but it
gives
errors at the end of the install.
Google tells of others experiencing the same errors but gives no
resolution.

What errors?

--Errors are:

Project drush-make contains no modules

dpkg: error processing aegir-hostmaster (--configure)

Subprocess installed post installatiom script returned error exit status 1

Package aegir-hostmaster not configured yet

Dependency problems - leaving unconfigured

Errors were encountered while processing

aegir -- hostmaster

aegir

subprocess /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code(1)

I'm afraid I can't help you there. TBH I had a similar error when trying to install Drush myself, but gave up on it and haven't had the time or inclination to solve it yet.

It seems to me that you're attempting too many learning curves at once, though. Aegir will be a 'nice to have' once you have a few dozen sites to maintain, no doubt, but you need to focus on getting the servers setup correctly first. Then Drush, then Aegir.

I installed firefox on the server but think it won't work unless there
is a windows manager of some sort.
What is the smallest windows manager required to run firefox on a
server and what else should be installed.

I haven't tried it on Ubuntu, but Xfce is lightweight. I imagine "apt-
get install xfce" should pick up any dependencies required.

But why does it have to be "the smallest"?

---Small capacity very old hard drive purely for learning purposes and
it's the same size as the server allocation.

My system is:
---I have a 40 gig hard drive set up in my pc with ubuntu 11 server so
that I can learn what to do on the real server

The server-guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/serverguide.pdf

is very comprehensive.

---I have another hard drive with Ubuntu 11 desktop that is used for
day to day work, I don't want to do anything that could stuff up files
on this drive, did that once, don't wish to do it again.
It has Drupal 6.22 and Drupal 7.4 whach are used for dev of the site I'm
working on.

Rather use that 40Gb hd for backups and learn how to make snapshots and rollbacks so you can't stuff up anything. :-)

The differences between Server & Desktop are insignificant, really. You can as comfortably run everything you need on the Desktop version, and just as comfortably use the server guide documentation.

The only real differences are the server installation comes with the AMP stack plus mail servers, etc. on the distro, whereas the desktop version comes with apps and a windowing system.

Also the RAID and LVM setup options are more readily accessible on the server installation.

If you want to have the best of both worlds, and learn how to do everything properly, start with a fresh server installation (using the guide), then just 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' on top of it. Or just install AMP on the desktop. (Which you must have done already if it's got Drupal running on it.)

Otherwise you could use virtualbox and turn the 40Gb hd's current server installation into a virtual machine running under your current desktop. Presuming you're not running a mail server with spamassassin and amavis, etc. it doesn't need much memory. 512Mb would do comfortably. And, BTW, 40Gb is plenty of space to run server and full desktop.

But you really don't need both - unless you have a dedicated server PC - so you're just adding needless complexity by having both on the same computer.

---I have another hard drive with Fedora 14 which I use for
experimentation.
It also has Drupal 6.22 and Drupal 7.4 so that I can experiment without
upsetting the ubuntu system.
There is no aegir install for Fedora 14 that I have found.

The other sysadmin wants to use Ubuntu on the server

Um, how many PCs do you have? If this is in a work environment, rather setup the server on another machine.

Can someone please point me to an Aegir tutorial or script that actually
does install properly

Try look around http://community.aegirproject.org/

--- This is where I got the original install script that simply does not
work, they reccomend to use apt-get install drush then apt-get install
aegir on a vanilla server install -- this is where I am at for now. I'm
on my 3rd learning attempt - this is all very new for me
I'll go investigate further but find that much of the information out
there dates back to 2007/8, there seems to be very little that is modern
and accurate.

Are the server and the desktop OSs on the same PC? If so, then do what
Luke said. Or just mount the hard drive and work on it...?

Or you could just install mysql and apache on your current Ubuntu
desktop, and try to install Aegir there.

---I did try that originally but got the same errors so removed everything

If the server is on a separate PC, you could install Xfce as well as
vncserver to accesss it remotely. Or you could obviously just ssh in
to "work on the server hard drive".

I've heard about ssh. How do I ssh into a hard drive on the same pc:

First you'd have to get it running under virtualbox. Then you're going to have one more major learning curve to bridge the networks if you're running the server inside virtualbox. :-)

On Ubuntu server, sshd comes pre-installed. On the desktop you would need to 'apt-get install openssh-server'.

Check the server guide (Remote Administration) for more info and how to setup keys, etc.

And you can use putty.exe to ssh in from a Windows PC.

I'am very grateful for the help and hand holding, I'm way out of my
depth here
Thanks

NP. Just re-think your strategy a little, okay? And this isn't the right forum, but you can email me directly for help with Ubuntu.