Well yes - much of the book is for advanced development and chapter 2 delves right into module development.  But chapter one gives a good overview of the system and chapter 8 deals with themes in an incredibly straight forward way.  I wish they spent more time on theme development than they do or that there was a book devoted to that level of development but the book was worth the money for me for that chapter alone because it starts out with "take your html page, add in these few bits of php code just like this and bam it works" before going into things in a bit more detail.  Also seems to handle working with blocks in a pretty good way but i haven't dealt much with that yet. 

For myself I'll also be happy to have it when i get to the inevitable developing of my own module - I need something that will find the closest representative to a zipcode and i'm pretty sure no one has built that yet.  There are open source databases available to deal with it but i'll have to build the glue.  probably something others will find useful when i'm done too. 

but yes - although a lot of the book will probably go over your head for now from what you've said about your skill level, it's probably worth the money spent just to get you going with theme development, and the block work you'll likely have to do once your themes start advancing.  I'm quite certain I would have been able to get my theme going with this book even without php knowledge.



Jean Gazis wrote:
Maybe I will get that book, then. Everyone recommends it, but I had the impression that it was only for people who want to really develop stuff, like actual modules.

And I have to say, having read just a couple of tech how-to books, I don't know how people can stand it - good writers seem to be in very short supply in the tech handbook genre.

Jean

On 8/15/07, sander-martijn <sander@sander-martijn.com> wrote:
Well I can give you an answer from someone who knows css html and php
quite well and has been doing all of them for a decade, give or take.
Theming in and of itself is not that difficult.  However it will
certainly seem so from the online documentation.  I beat my head on the
wall yesterday for hours while reading through page after page of
documentation and not even understanding where to start - The html, css
and javascript being done and a solid knowledge of php, all i had to
know was what I needed to add to the code, how and where and I could
handle the rest.  The documentation seems to be bent on the idea that
everyone wants to modify an existing theme (and a browse through the
theme repository shows that that's exactly what many do) rather than
implement a custom design delivered by a designer.  Furthermore most of
it speaks in drupal.  Lastly, a lot of things are simply not documented
or missing important details.

I finally gave up on the documentation and went to b&n and picked up a
copy of Pro Drupal Development.  Within an hour I had a theme working
that somewhat resembles the site and have a good idea of what I need to
do for the rest.  I'm now hacking through the menu structure to get my
css dropdown menus working.

In short, it's not theming that's difficult, it's finding good
information on it that is.

.sander

Jean Gazis wrote:
> How hard is it for a non-programmer to learn just enough PHP to do
> theming, or is that in itself a stupid question? Compared to say,
> learning CSS. (I mean not learning PHP instead of CSS, but I have been
> learning CSS so it is a reasonable benchmark.)
>
> Jean

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