John, when saying moat sensible list maintainers sound rather insulating.  This like all things in Drupal is community built.  Consider offering constructive criticism and offering a solution that you are willing to help implement.

On Dec 1, 2012 10:41 AM, "John Layt" <johnlayt@googlemail.com> wrote:
On 1 December 2012 16:57, Pat Ferrel <pat@occamsmachete.com> wrote:
> I just got a reminder from the mailman-owner@drupal.org about my account
> settings for this mail group.
>
> The email contained my password in clear text!!! This is completely
> unacceptable.
>
> you should never save my password in clear text
> you should never never send it anywhere!
>
>
> This is something I'd expect from bad practices of the last century.

This is default on the MailMan software.  Most sensible list
maintainers turn the monthly reminder off, especially on a list like
this with enough traffic that it would be hard to forget you're
subscribed.

John.
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