Re: [support] Fed up with Drupal 7 ... Desperately.....modules.etc
Memory limits of 128mb or more is not uncommon. It's even stated in the online documentation: A PHP memory limit of 32MB is the minimum requirement for Drupal 7 (16MB for Drupal 6), and 64MB is recommended. Some sites may need more than 64MB if they are using certain contributed modules such as Views and Panels. Memory limits of 128MB and higher are not unusual. There are several techniques to increase the PHP memory limit and you only need to use one of them. The right one for you depends on your system configuration. http://drupal.org/node/207036 Views and Panels are heavy modules. That's the price we pay for the ease in site building they provide. The other option is to not use them and go with custom code to generate your content and displays. Any site I build I evaluate what needs to be done and what will need to be done in the future before installing Views and/or Panels. Of course that's not an easy option for people not familiar with Drupal development. As far as Views, it will get better in Drupal 8, since it is going into core and will get a lot more attention from the development side as well as tighter integration into Drupal overall. Jamie Holly http://www.intoxination.net http://www.hollyit.net On 4/5/2013 2:26 AM, John Summerfield wrote:
On 05/04/13 00:28, Jamie Holly wrote:
I've got a Drupal 7 site running with 60 contrib modules and about a dozen custom modules. I got the memory limit set to 128mb and never run out of memory. This is on CentOS6 and PHP 5.3.23. There are also countless other Drupal 7 sites running out there with no problem. But you can pretty much break anything with the wrong configurations and/or modules.
In contrast, I just created a site with a few modules and themes, and without adding so much as any new content type or content, I did get memory problems
I'm using CentOS 6. PHP 5.3.3 with all the latest relevant updates. It happened the first day drupal 7.22 was available and it appeared to be provoked by Jackson. Not having persuaded myself I actually want Jackson, it was easy to dispense with it. I do have the memory limit set to 128Mbytes.
However, this isn't Roger's problem.
Apologies for not snipping the above but the discussion encapsulates a number of my experiences.
When installing Drupal, there should be no reason to jump through hoops to configure just because of Drupal, this seems to imply a fault with the Drupal installation or pre configuration. We can't always blame the user. Yes I agree it happened on earlier releases of Drupal 7. I find that a brand new install with minimal modules and no data or configuration changes will cause the Fatal memory error and have experienced this on 3 unrelated computers and 3 different operating systems. I have tried memory settings between 64M and 512M, even went to 1024M, half the memory on one of my machines. Interesting to note that each test resulted in a different Fatal error allowance report , except the 1024M which almost doubled the numbers of the original 64M. Side note. I just updated the server to Drupal-7.22 and the Fatal memory problem remains. But not on my home systems to which I copied the whole file system and database. I have no way of addressing shared server issues other than /settings.php so thinking if Views and Panels, etc are a problematic Drupal overhead and it's better to build from scratch, Drupal becomes an increasing burden. I think I'll gradually move away from Drupal. Seems it's pretty much, not worth the effort. Roger
On 06/04/13 10:34, Roger wrote:
Side note. I just updated the server to Drupal-7.22 and the Fatal memory problem remains. But not on my home systems to which I copied the whole file system and database. I have no way of addressing shared server issues other than /settings.php so thinking if Views and Panels, etc are a problematic Drupal overhead and it's better to build from scratch, Drupal becomes an increasing burden. I think I'll gradually move away from Drupal. Seems it's pretty much, not worth the effort.
I have sites, not released yet but visible, at chesswa.com.au and mandurah.chesswa.com.au. The host is CentOS6 pretty much exactly the same as my test host, it's got D7.22 with views and panels (and Jackson!) (and domains) and has no problems at all. Except that domains doesn't do what I want. Apache uses 400 Mbytes virtual with PHP assigned 128Mb. Since there's nothing to see, and the registration form doesn't appear unless it's viewed from inside Australia, there's negligible traffic. The fact domains doesn't do what I want is the principal reason I set up my test system thus far the site's only seemed useful for people who appear to register in order to spam the site, so it's sitting there defying them while I decide how best to proceed.
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