FYI: I am an experienced web developer, but I am new to drupal and not familiar with the drupal table setup. I need to set up a proof-of-concept in which a drupal table will be displayed with a drupal site. I do not wish to display a table that contains private data and could potentially compromise the site. 'date_formats' looks innocuous enough, will work for me. Does that sound OK? thanks -- Tim tim at tee jay forty nine dot com or akwebsoft dot com http://www.akwebsoft.com