FORUM permission and moderation granularity
Hi all, in the site I am building there are different sections each accessible to a different groups of users identified by different roles; users can have more than one role. I am using Taxonomy Access Control but I do not manage to restrict access to Forums. What I would like is: user with role X can read/write on Forum X user with role X, Y can read/write on Forum X and Y and so on ... I defined Taxonomy Access Permission using the term that is created automatically when you create a Forum but it doesn't seem to work... If the Forum and the Term of the Forum Vocabulary are named "X" I have set Taxonomy access permissions for Anonymous and Authenticated roles as follows: Show-Deny Update-Deny Delete-Deny And for the role "X": Show-Allow Update-Allow Delete-Deny List When log in as a user with role "X" and I try to add a new Forum Topic the drop-down list of Forums is empty! I manage to reply to a Topic added by the admin. Any hints? Second issue: is it possible to have one Forum moderated and another one not moderated on different sections? TIA for your help, Davide
On 9/24/07, Davide Galletti <davide@davide.galletti.name> wrote:
Hi all,
in the site I am building there are different sections each accessible to a different groups of users identified by different roles; users can have more than one role. I am using Taxonomy Access Control but I do not manage to restrict access to Forums. What I would like is: user with role X can read/write on Forum X user with role X, Y can read/write on Forum X and Y and so on ... I defined Taxonomy Access Permission using the term that is created automatically when you create a Forum but it doesn't seem to work... If the Forum and the Term of the Forum Vocabulary are named "X" I have set Taxonomy access permissions for Anonymous and Authenticated roles as follows: Show-Deny Update-Deny Delete-Deny And for the role "X": Show-Allow Update-Allow Delete-Deny List When log in as a user with role "X" and I try to add a new Forum Topic the drop-down list of Forums is empty! I manage to reply to a Topic added by the admin. Any hints?
There is also a "Create" permission in TAC, which controls the terms appearing in the category selection dropdown list for tagging the node. The role also needs "create" and "edit own" general permissions in admin/user/access. You may also want to disable the "Update" TAC permission if you don't want that role to be able to edit *anyone's* posts. That one is only good for moderators. It is not needed for privileged "readers".
Second issue: is it possible to have one Forum moderated and another one not moderated on different sections?
You mean with a different URL? Not out of the box as far as I know. Perhaps you could fake a forum using a custom-made "forum" front page with assigned views, a content type and categories.
TIA for your help,
Davide -- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]
Cog Rusty ha scritto:
On 9/24/07, Davide Galletti <davide@davide.galletti.name> wrote:
Hi all,
in the site I am building there are different sections each accessible to a different groups of users identified by different roles; users can have more than one role. I am using Taxonomy Access Control but I do not manage to restrict access to Forums. What I would like is: user with role X can read/write on Forum X user with role X, Y can read/write on Forum X and Y and so on ... I defined Taxonomy Access Permission using the term that is created automatically when you create a Forum but it doesn't seem to work... If the Forum and the Term of the Forum Vocabulary are named "X" I have set Taxonomy access permissions for Anonymous and Authenticated roles as follows: Show-Deny Update-Deny Delete-Deny And for the role "X": Show-Allow Update-Allow Delete-Deny List When log in as a user with role "X" and I try to add a new Forum Topic the drop-down list of Forums is empty! I manage to reply to a Topic added by the admin. Any hints?
There is also a "Create" permission in TAC, which controls the terms appearing in the category selection dropdown list for tagging the node. It was already set; I just forgot to tell... The category selection dropdown list is empty for the user with role X and normally filled for the admin; I have given the role X all possible permssions related to forums and comments but still the dropdown is empty ! The role also needs "create" and "edit own" general permissions in admin/user/access.
Added, but didn't make any difference.
You may also want to disable the "Update" TAC permission if you don't want that role to be able to edit *anyone's* posts. That one is only good for moderators. It is not needed for privileged "readers".
Second issue: is it possible to have one Forum moderated and another one not moderated on different sections?
You mean with a different URL? Not out of the box as far as I know. Perhaps you could fake a forum using a custom-made "forum" front page with assigned views, a content type and categories.
Thanks for the suggestions! Regards Davide
On 9/24/07, Davide Galletti <davide@davide.galletti.name> wrote:
Cog Rusty ha scritto: On 9/24/07, Davide Galletti <davide@davide.galletti.name> wrote:
Hi all,
in the site I am building there are different sections each accessible to a different groups of users identified by different roles; users can have more than one role. I am using Taxonomy Access Control but I do not manage to restrict access to Forums. What I would like is: user with role X can read/write on Forum X user with role X, Y can read/write on Forum X and Y and so on ... I defined Taxonomy Access Permission using the term that is created automatically when you create a Forum but it doesn't seem to work... If the Forum and the Term of the Forum Vocabulary are named "X" I have set Taxonomy access permissions for Anonymous and Authenticated roles as follows: Show-Deny Update-Deny Delete-Deny And for the role "X": Show-Allow Update-Allow Delete-Deny List When log in as a user with role "X" and I try to add a new Forum Topic the drop-down list of Forums is empty! I manage to reply to a Topic added by the admin. Any hints?
There is also a "Create" permission in TAC, which controls the terms appearing in the category selection dropdown list for tagging the node. It was already set; I just forgot to tell... The category selection dropdown list is empty for the user with role X and normally filled for the admin; I have given the role X all possible permssions related to forums and comments but still the dropdown is empty !
The role also needs "create" and "edit own" general permissions in admin/user/access.
Added, but didn't make any difference.
Hmm...If you set these general permissions for the "forum topic" node type and didn't work, the only other suggestion I have is to try the "Rebuild permissions" in /admin/content/node-settings (only Drupal 5).
You may also want to disable the "Update" TAC permission if you don't want that role to be able to edit *anyone's* posts. That one is only good for moderators. It is not needed for privileged "readers".
Second issue: is it possible to have one Forum moderated and another one not moderated on different sections?
You mean with a different URL? Not out of the box as far as I know. Perhaps you could fake a forum using a custom-made "forum" front page with assigned views, a content type and categories.
Thanks for the suggestions!
Regards
Davide
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Did you try forum_access module. Shyamala ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cog Rusty" <cog.rusty@gmail.com> To: <support@drupal.org> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 2:44 AM Subject: Re: [support] FORUM permission and moderation granularity
On 9/24/07, Davide Galletti <davide@davide.galletti.name> wrote:
Cog Rusty ha scritto: On 9/24/07, Davide Galletti <davide@davide.galletti.name> wrote:
Hi all,
in the site I am building there are different sections each accessible to a different groups of users identified by different roles; users can have more than one role. I am using Taxonomy Access Control but I do not manage to restrict access to Forums. What I would like is: user with role X can read/write on Forum X user with role X, Y can read/write on Forum X and Y and so on ... I defined Taxonomy Access Permission using the term that is created automatically when you create a Forum but it doesn't seem to work... If the Forum and the Term of the Forum Vocabulary are named "X" I have set Taxonomy access permissions for Anonymous and Authenticated roles as follows: Show-Deny Update-Deny Delete-Deny And for the role "X": Show-Allow Update-Allow Delete-Deny List When log in as a user with role "X" and I try to add a new Forum Topic the drop-down list of Forums is empty! I manage to reply to a Topic added by the admin. Any hints?
There is also a "Create" permission in TAC, which controls the terms appearing in the category selection dropdown list for tagging the node. It was already set; I just forgot to tell... The category selection dropdown list is empty for the user with role X and normally filled for the admin; I have given the role X all possible permssions related to forums and comments but still the dropdown is empty !
The role also needs "create" and "edit own" general permissions in admin/user/access.
Added, but didn't make any difference.
Hmm...If you set these general permissions for the "forum topic" node type and didn't work, the only other suggestion I have is to try the "Rebuild permissions" in /admin/content/node-settings (only Drupal 5).
You may also want to disable the "Update" TAC permission if you don't want that role to be able to edit *anyone's* posts. That one is only good for moderators. It is not needed for privileged "readers".
Second issue: is it possible to have one Forum moderated and another one not moderated on different sections?
You mean with a different URL? Not out of the box as far as I know. Perhaps you could fake a forum using a custom-made "forum" front page with assigned views, a content type and categories.
Thanks for the suggestions!
Regards
Davide
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Thanks Cog, thanks Shyamala,
"Rebuild permissions" in /admin/content/node-settings (only Drupal 5). it doesn't seem to do any difference
Did you try forum_access module <http://drupal.org/node/118039>. it works as long as Taxonomy Access Control (TAC) Module is disabled
It looks like TAC module is not Forum-aware ... this is the test I have done: 1) start from scratch with a 5.2 2) create a couple of forums and users 3) admin/user/access give authenticated users "create forum topics" permission 4) users are able to create topics in any forum 5) install and enable TAC (no settings changed) 6) BUG: users find an empty drop down list when they want to create new forum topics It is quite a surprise to me, so I still think I am doing something wrong ... 7) adding in TAC Show-Allow Update-Allow Delete-Deny Create List permission to authenticated user for Forum-*default* and for all forums does not change the behaviour ... Am I missing something? Is it really a TAC forum incompatibility? Anybody else has come across before?? Thansk everybody for your help! Davide Shyamala ha scritto:
Did you try forum_access module <http://drupal.org/node/118039>.
Shyamala ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cog Rusty" <cog.rusty@gmail.com <mailto:cog.rusty@gmail.com>> To: <support@drupal.org <mailto:support@drupal.org>> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 2:44 AM Subject: Re: [support] FORUM permission and moderation granularity
On 9/24/07, Davide Galletti <davide@davide.galletti.name <mailto:davide@davide.galletti.name>> wrote:
Cog Rusty ha scritto: On 9/24/07, Davide Galletti <davide@davide.galletti.name
<mailto:davide@davide.galletti.name>> wrote:
Hi all,
in the site I am building there are different sections each accessible to a different groups of users identified by different roles; users can have more than one role. I am using Taxonomy Access Control but I do not manage to restrict access to Forums. What I would like is: user with role X can read/write on Forum X user with role X, Y can read/write on Forum X and Y and so on ... I defined Taxonomy Access Permission using the term that is created automatically when you create a Forum but it doesn't seem to work... If the Forum and the Term of the Forum Vocabulary are named "X" I
have set
Taxonomy access permissions for Anonymous and Authenticated roles as follows: Show-Deny Update-Deny Delete-Deny And for the role "X": Show-Allow Update-Allow Delete-Deny List When log in as a user with role "X" and I try to add a new Forum Topic the drop-down list of Forums is empty! I manage to reply to a Topic added by the admin. Any hints?
There is also a "Create" permission in TAC, which controls the terms appearing in the category selection dropdown list for tagging the node. It was already set; I just forgot to tell... The category selection dropdown list is empty for the user with role X and normally filled for the admin; I have given the role X all possible permssions related to forums and comments but still the dropdown is empty !
The role also needs "create" and "edit own" general permissions in admin/user/access.
Added, but didn't make any difference.
Hmm...If you set these general permissions for the "forum topic" node type and didn't work, the only other suggestion I have is to try the "Rebuild permissions" in /admin/content/node-settings (only Drupal 5).
You may also want to disable the "Update" TAC permission if you don't want that role to be able to edit *anyone's* posts. That one is only good for moderators. It is not needed for privileged "readers".
Second issue: is it possible to have one Forum moderated and another one not moderated on different sections?
You mean with a different URL? Not out of the box as far as I know. Perhaps you could fake a forum using a custom-made "forum" front page with assigned views, a content type and categories.
Thanks for the suggestions!
Regards
Davide
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On 9/26/07, Davide Galletti <davide@davide.galletti.name> wrote:
Thanks Cog, thanks Shyamala,
"Rebuild permissions" in /admin/content/node-settings (only Drupal 5). it doesn't seem to do any difference
Did you try forum_access module. it works as long as Taxonomy Access Control (TAC) Module is disabled
It looks like TAC module is not Forum-aware ... this is the test I have done: 1) start from scratch with a 5.2 2) create a couple of forums and users 3) admin/user/access give authenticated users "create forum topics" permission 4) users are able to create topics in any forum 5) install and enable TAC (no settings changed) 6) BUG: users find an empty drop down list when they want to create new forum topics
It is quite a surprise to me, so I still think I am doing something wrong ...
7) adding in TAC Show-Allow Update-Allow Delete-Deny Create List permission to authenticated user for Forum-*default* and for all forums does not change the behaviour ...
Am I missing something? Is it really a TAC forum incompatibility? Anybody else has come across before??
No, TAC has been used for a long time for this purpose. You must apply the TAC permission to specific categories of the forums vocabulary. "Default" is for categories which will be created in the future (for new forum containers). Also notice that if you use TAC and Forum Access at the same time, then whenever some of their permissions disagree "allow" will always win.
Thansk everybody for your help!
Davide
Shyamala ha scritto:
Did you try forum_access module.
Shyamala ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cog Rusty" <cog.rusty@gmail.com> To: <support@drupal.org> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 2:44 AM Subject: Re: [support] FORUM permission and moderation granularity
On 9/24/07, Davide Galletti <davide@davide.galletti.name> wrote:
Cog Rusty ha scritto: On 9/24/07, Davide Galletti <davide@davide.galletti.name> wrote:
Hi all,
in the site I am building there are different sections each accessible to a different groups of users identified by different roles; users can have more than one role. I am using Taxonomy Access Control but I do not manage to restrict access to Forums. What I would like is: user with role X can read/write on Forum X user with role X, Y can read/write on Forum X and Y and so on ... I defined Taxonomy Access Permission using the term that is created automatically when you create a Forum but it doesn't seem to work... If the Forum and the Term of the Forum Vocabulary are named "X" I have
set
Taxonomy access permissions for Anonymous and Authenticated roles as follows: Show-Deny Update-Deny Delete-Deny And for the role "X": Show-Allow Update-Allow Delete-Deny List When log in as a user with role "X" and I try to add a new Forum Topic the drop-down list of Forums is empty! I manage to reply to a Topic added by the admin. Any hints?
There is also a "Create" permission in TAC, which controls the terms appearing in the category selection dropdown list for tagging the node. It was already set; I just forgot to tell... The category selection dropdown list is empty for the user with role X and normally filled for the admin; I have given the role X all possible permssions related to forums and comments but still the dropdown is empty !
The role also needs "create" and "edit own" general permissions in admin/user/access.
Added, but didn't make any difference.
Hmm...If you set these general permissions for the "forum topic" node type and didn't work, the only other suggestion I have is to try the "Rebuild permissions" in /admin/content/node-settings (only Drupal 5).
You may also want to disable the "Update" TAC permission if you don't want that role to be able to edit *anyone's* posts. That one is only good for moderators. It is not needed for privileged "readers".
Second issue: is it possible to have one Forum moderated and another one not moderated on different sections?
You mean with a different URL? Not out of the box as far as I know. Perhaps you could fake a forum using a custom-made "forum" front page with assigned views, a content type and categories.
Thanks for the suggestions!
Regards
Davide
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Cog Rusty ha scritto:
On 9/26/07, Davide Galletti <davide@davide.galletti.name> wrote:
6) BUG: users find an empty drop down list when they want to create new forum topics
It is quite a surprise to me, so I still think I am doing something wrong ...
7) adding in TAC Show-Allow Update-Allow Delete-Deny Create List permission to authenticated user for Forum-*default* and for all forums does not change the behaviour ...
Am I missing something? Is it really a TAC forum incompatibility? Anybody else has come across before??
No, TAC has been used for a long time for this purpose. You must apply the TAC permission to specific categories of the forums vocabulary. I actually have done that... probably I was not too clear when I said: "Show-Allow Update-Allow Delete-Deny Create List permission to authenticated user .... >>and for all forums<< does not change the behaviour " i.e. drop down list is empty
"Default" is for categories which will be created in the future (for new forum containers).
Also notice that if you use TAC and Forum Access at the same time, then whenever some of their permissions disagree "allow" will always win.
thanks, Davide
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