Providing ownerships of a subset of the site to user/group
We are investigating Drupal for our department web site. Right now there is a person or group of persons responsible for each part of the site. When we convert to Drupal, what's the easiest way to give a user or role permission to "own" (i.e. the only ones who can edit that section) a set of pages without giving them permission to edit all pages or to publish pages outside of that area? Is there a module that is set up to handle this sort of "sandbox" model? Concrete example (we are a department in a university). One of our faculty members is in charge of all the pages dealing with the graduate program. In our current site, this translates to all pages in the /graduate area. He owns all of the files in that folder, and can only publish new content to that folder. Another person is in charge of the undergraduate program (/undergrad), a third person is in charge of the continuing education program (/conted), and so on. How best to model this in Drupal? Is this something that Drupal is well-suited to handle? Thanks! -- Fran Fabrizio Senior Systems Analyst Department of Computer and Information Sciences University of Alabama at Birmingham http://www.cis.uab.edu/ 205.934.0653
This sounds like an ideal job for the organic groups module ("og" to its friends <g>). http://drupal.org/project/og The description is mostly about users setting up special interest groups, but it's perfectly effective for having administrators for only specific subsets of a site (where each subset corresponds to an og). On Thursday 29 June 2006 17:44, Fran Fabrizio wrote:
We are investigating Drupal for our department web site. Right now there is a person or group of persons responsible for each part of the site. When we convert to Drupal, what's the easiest way to give a user or role permission to "own" (i.e. the only ones who can edit that section) a set of pages without giving them permission to edit all pages or to publish pages outside of that area? Is there a module that is set up to handle this sort of "sandbox" model?
Concrete example (we are a department in a university). One of our faculty members is in charge of all the pages dealing with the graduate program. In our current site, this translates to all pages in the /graduate area. He owns all of the files in that folder, and can only publish new content to that folder. Another person is in charge of the undergraduate program (/undergrad), a third person is in charge of the continuing education program (/conted), and so on.
How best to model this in Drupal? Is this something that Drupal is well-suited to handle?
Thanks!
-- Fran Fabrizio Senior Systems Analyst Department of Computer and Information Sciences University of Alabama at Birmingham http://www.cis.uab.edu/ 205.934.0653
-- Larry Garfield AIM: LOLG42 larry@garfieldtech.com ICQ: 6817012 "If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it." -- Thomas Jefferson
Interesting, I had come across og yesterday but did not make the connection that it could be applicable here. I will play with it today and see what it can do, thanks. Larry Garfield wrote:
This sounds like an ideal job for the organic groups module ("og" to its friends <g>).
The description is mostly about users setting up special interest groups, but it's perfectly effective for having administrators for only specific subsets of a site (where each subset corresponds to an og).
On Thursday 29 June 2006 17:44, Fran Fabrizio wrote:
We are investigating Drupal for our department web site. Right now there is a person or group of persons responsible for each part of the site. When we convert to Drupal, what's the easiest way to give a user or role permission to "own" (i.e. the only ones who can edit that section) a set of pages without giving them permission to edit all pages or to publish pages outside of that area? Is there a module that is set up to handle this sort of "sandbox" model?
Concrete example (we are a department in a university). One of our faculty members is in charge of all the pages dealing with the graduate program. In our current site, this translates to all pages in the /graduate area. He owns all of the files in that folder, and can only publish new content to that folder. Another person is in charge of the undergraduate program (/undergrad), a third person is in charge of the continuing education program (/conted), and so on.
How best to model this in Drupal? Is this something that Drupal is well-suited to handle?
Thanks!
-- Fran Fabrizio Senior Systems Analyst Department of Computer and Information Sciences University of Alabama at Birmingham http://www.cis.uab.edu/ 205.934.0653
So I appear to have at least two options for dividing the site up into pieces and assigning ownership... OGs and separating the databases. I decided to try the OG method first.... sorry for being dense, but a couple hours of poking and prodding have not led me to the answer yet. :-) Let's use the example that I want to set up an OG called "Graduate Programs", at the url /graduate. I've managed to do this, as user 'root'. I don't want the front page to be dynamic, just a static page, so I found a setting where I could set groups' front page to be content type 'page' instead of 'group' (even though this might cause trouble later, because other OGs I might want to be more dynamic on their front page....is there no way to do this per-OG?) Anyway, for this particular OG at least, 'page' seems to be the best behavior - it got rid of the message about there being no public posts and that you ought to subscribe to the group - no need to subscribe, in this case, the purpose of the OG is not to control who sees the content, but only who creates it. Now, I want to grant user joeuser@cis.uab.edu (authenticated from LDAP - hence the user format) ownership of this area. He should be able to edit the front page of the OG, add any pages he wants underneath that page but only underneath that page, and so on....I want the theme consistent with the rest of the site, but I think I can enforce that by simply having only one available. I can't figure out the right combo of roles and permissions that I need to create/grant to joeuser to accomplish this. Since I created the group as root, I wanted to change the owner to joeuser@cis.uab.edu. I edited the group and changed the authorship to joeuser and that seemed to do something positive, as now when I go to the groups list it shows joeuser as the manager. When joeuser logs in, he is able to edit the front page of the group, however he is not able to create subpages. I created a role called gradowner, I added joeuser to gradowner, but I don't see how I say "members of the gradowner role can own/administer/create content for the graduate programs OG". I also don't see how I can say members of gradowner can only create content within the graduate OG - if I grant the ability to create pages and stories, they get the ability to do that site-wide and publish that to the front page. I did give gradowner the permission to administer OGs (even though I only want him to be able to administer this -one- OG, so that might not have been the right move). Please help. :-) I have to step back and wonder if Drupal is really the answer for us. We want CMS because there's about 8 parties in total that are responsible for maintaining our web site, some of whom are not coders or savvy with HTML. Right now, to get material onto the site, they send it to me, I format it and wrap the appropriate PHP calls to enforce our standard template, and then I publish it. But I want out of this business. :-) They should own and be able to modify their own parts of the site and edit it through a web-based simple form. I've tried several CMSs, and the part I always get stuck at seems to be right here, carving up the site and assigning ownership to the responsible party for that area. Now, I've gotten closer with Drupal than I have with any of the other products (Joomla and Plone for the most part), but I do feel like I am swimming a bit upstream here. Any advice/pointers much appreciated! I'm also wondering if maybe I should have tried the multiple database approach first. :-) Thanks, Fran Larry Garfield wrote:
This sounds like an ideal job for the organic groups module ("og" to its friends <g>).
The description is mostly about users setting up special interest groups, but it's perfectly effective for having administrators for only specific subsets of a site (where each subset corresponds to an og).
On Thursday 29 June 2006 17:44, Fran Fabrizio wrote:
We are investigating Drupal for our department web site. Right now there is a person or group of persons responsible for each part of the site. When we convert to Drupal, what's the easiest way to give a user or role permission to "own" (i.e. the only ones who can edit that section) a set of pages without giving them permission to edit all pages or to publish pages outside of that area? Is there a module that is set up to handle this sort of "sandbox" model?
Concrete example (we are a department in a university). One of our faculty members is in charge of all the pages dealing with the graduate program. In our current site, this translates to all pages in the /graduate area. He owns all of the files in that folder, and can only publish new content to that folder. Another person is in charge of the undergraduate program (/undergrad), a third person is in charge of the continuing education program (/conted), and so on.
How best to model this in Drupal? Is this something that Drupal is well-suited to handle?
Thanks!
-- Fran Fabrizio Senior Systems Analyst Department of Computer and Information Sciences University of Alabama at Birmingham http://www.cis.uab.edu/ 205.934.0653
-- Fran Fabrizio Senior Systems Analyst Department of Computer and Information Sciences University of Alabama at Birmingham http://www.cis.uab.edu/ 205.934.0653
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