Yes, I agree with Adrian here. Drupal may not be the greatest too work with all the time. Because of its complexity of nature. I don't know what Kieran Lal's earlier preferences or knowledge are..Tough I have to say you have done well on your theme there.*thumbs up* Anyway. As I have said/asked before: Should drupal compete directly with Wordpress? Sure, they are both "do-able" for blogs, but drupal is meant for so much more! WP is really just a blogtool. A very good one too! I kinda see Drupal as a framework, a framework that scales good and gives me the flexibility that I need from a CMS(as a developer). So here is my real deal, should Drupal just let WP handle the bloggers, so Drupal can deal with community building and complex websites? I think so. Today I have no problem theming with PHPtemplate. Wrap some divs around here and there, then do your magic with the CSS! Now that phptemplate kinda have grown on too me, I really like theming my sites by code. Since many WYSIWYG-editors tends too live their own lifes by throwing in random code here and there. As for PHPtemplate2.0, everything can be improved! ;)
Sorry for my bad english sometimes. regards morphir
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- although it?s a very powerful CMS, I didn?t have the greatest time with it as it came to be one of the most cumbersome and roundabout pieces of software... (Kieran Lal)
- Re: although it?s a very powerful CMS, I didn?t have the greatest time with it as it came to be one of the most cumbersome and roundabout pieces of software... (Adrian Simmons)
- Re: although it?s a very powerful CMS, I didn?t have the greatest time with it as it came to be one of the most cumbersome and roundabout pieces of software... (B?r Kessels)
Message: 1 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 00:36:11 -0700 From: Kieran Lal kieran@civicspacelabs.org Subject: [themes] although it?s a very powerful CMS, I didn?t have the greatest time with it as it came to be one of the most cumbersome and roundabout pieces of software... To: "themes@drupal.org theme developers" themes@drupal.org Message-ID: BB9070B3-7148-4E83-A014-A7425EA4FAF8@civicspacelabs.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed
"It was also my first chance to play with Drupal. Unfortunately, although it’s a very powerful CMS, I didn’t have the greatest time with it as it came to be one of the most cumbersome and roundabout pieces of software I’ve ever worked with."
http://avalonstar.com/2006/06/13/flocks-home-gets-a-makeover/
Anyone want to follow up and get some feedback?
Kieran
Message: 2 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 10:22:23 +0100 From: Adrian Simmons adrinux@perlucida.com Subject: Re: [themes] although it?s a very powerful CMS, I didn?t have the greatest time with it as it came to be one of the most cumbersome and roundabout pieces of software... To: A list for theme developers themes@drupal.org Message-ID: 448FD54F.8090503@perlucida.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Kieran Lal wrote:
Anyone want to follow up and get some feedback?
I think the blog post tells you all you need to know:
"Maybe, I’m just too used to how WordPress works." This is clearly someone that is used to working with a different system and found wrapping their head around a new one a bit hard. Lets not forget that WordPress is a blog system, Drupal is a lot more. It's always going to be a bit more of a learning curve.
"there’s quite a learning curve when trying to conquer those quirky nodes and blocks." Whilst this is true changes in the theme system that are already in the pipeline will radically alter that, making it much easier to conquer blocks and nodes :)
But whilst themeing Drupal can be made *easier*, it's never going to be *easy* to set up and theme large or medium sized websites, not if you want to do it well.
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Øivind Binde