I started this forum thread as a place to capture designs that people would like to see ported to Drupal and also a place for theme developers to "volunteer" for some of the porting work. As you can see the thread has gotten quite long. At last count (and I think I'm a little behind) there have been 25 designs suggested (including the Millio design discussed on the dev list), with 14 designs having a volunteer, and at least 4 (maybe 5 completed). My question to the community (and the maintainers of themes.drupal.org) Should this list be moved to themes.drupal.org? Is there value in maintaining an ongoing wish list of desirable designs? If we think there is value but we don't think it belongs on themes.drupal.org then any suggestions for a home?
I meant to say THIS forum thread! http://drupal.org/node/50428 On 3/9/06, David Reed <dreed10@gmail.com> wrote:
I started this forum thread as a place to capture designs that people would like to see ported to Drupal and also a place for theme developers to "volunteer" for some of the porting work. As you can see the thread has gotten quite long. At last count (and I think I'm a little behind) there have been 25 designs suggested (including the Millio design discussed on the dev list), with 14 designs having a volunteer, and at least 4 (maybe 5 completed).
My question to the community (and the maintainers of themes.drupal.org) Should this list be moved to themes.drupal.org? Is there value in maintaining an ongoing wish list of desirable designs? If we think there is value but we don't think it belongs on themes.drupal.org then any suggestions for a home?
While I see value to having a "I want to port WordPress theme XYZ to Drupal" list, my real wish as a designer is for more wireframes/pure layout themes. Themes that just define some layouts and perhaps some useful functions in a template.php file would be _way_ more useful to me as a designer than a fully fleshed out theme with fancy-pants graphics and complex cascades. Simplicity is what I want. (I guess this is why I keep returning to ArGeeBee as a basis for themes). So, what do I want specifically? I want a series of "themes" that build on each other, each adding more complexity (note that this can be done by nesting folders - themea/themea_extension/themea_extenions_extensions/etc). This would allow me to grab the level of complexity that I want, but no more. Here's an example: root - 2 column -- fixed --- blue color scheme ---- with images --- green color scheme -- variable - 3 column -- fixed -- variable - wacky hybrid 2/3 column design ...etc Of course, I'm lazy and haven't bothered to set up my themes like this either, but perhaps I can spur some community effort. :-) - Mark Fredrickson
From: David Reed <dreed10@gmail.com> Reply-To: A list for theme developers <themes@drupal.org> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 12:13:18 -0500 To: <themes@drupal.org> Subject: [heur][bcc][faked-from] [themes] Re: theme wishlist?
I meant to say THIS forum thread! http://drupal.org/node/50428
On 3/9/06, David Reed <dreed10@gmail.com> wrote:
I started this forum thread as a place to capture designs that people would like to see ported to Drupal and also a place for theme developers to "volunteer" for some of the porting work. As you can see the thread has gotten quite long. At last count (and I think I'm a little behind) there have been 25 designs suggested (including the Millio design discussed on the dev list), with 14 designs having a volunteer, and at least 4 (maybe 5 completed).
My question to the community (and the maintainers of themes.drupal.org) Should this list be moved to themes.drupal.org? Is there value in maintaining an ongoing wish list of desirable designs? If we think there is value but we don't think it belongs on themes.drupal.org then any suggestions for a home?
_______________________________________________ themes mailing list themes@drupal.org http://lists.drupal.org/mailman/listinfo/themes
Agreed. Starting-point themes are much more useful to developers/consultants/designers than canned themes (which are more appropriate for end-user-blogger-types). For instance, a skeleton theme that does this and almost nothing else would be awesome: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/holygrail -- Larry Garfield On Thu, March 9, 2006 11:29 am, Mark Fredrickson said:
While I see value to having a "I want to port WordPress theme XYZ to Drupal" list, my real wish as a designer is for more wireframes/pure layout themes.
Themes that just define some layouts and perhaps some useful functions in a template.php file would be _way_ more useful to me as a designer than a fully fleshed out theme with fancy-pants graphics and complex cascades. Simplicity is what I want. (I guess this is why I keep returning to ArGeeBee as a basis for themes).
So, what do I want specifically? I want a series of "themes" that build on each other, each adding more complexity (note that this can be done by nesting folders - themea/themea_extension/themea_extenions_extensions/etc). This would allow me to grab the level of complexity that I want, but no more. Here's an example:
root - 2 column -- fixed --- blue color scheme ---- with images --- green color scheme -- variable
- 3 column -- fixed -- variable
- wacky hybrid 2/3 column design
...etc
Of course, I'm lazy and haven't bothered to set up my themes like this either, but perhaps I can spur some community effort. :-)
- Mark Fredrickson
From: David Reed <dreed10@gmail.com> Reply-To: A list for theme developers <themes@drupal.org> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 12:13:18 -0500 To: <themes@drupal.org> Subject: [heur][bcc][faked-from] [themes] Re: theme wishlist?
I meant to say THIS forum thread! http://drupal.org/node/50428
On 3/9/06, David Reed <dreed10@gmail.com> wrote:
I started this forum thread as a place to capture designs that people would like to see ported to Drupal and also a place for theme developers to "volunteer" for some of the porting work. As you can see the thread has gotten quite long. At last count (and I think I'm a little behind) there have been 25 designs suggested (including the Millio design discussed on the dev list), with 14 designs having a volunteer, and at least 4 (maybe 5 completed).
My question to the community (and the maintainers of themes.drupal.org) Should this list be moved to themes.drupal.org? Is there value in maintaining an ongoing wish list of desirable designs? If we think there is value but we don't think it belongs on themes.drupal.org then any suggestions for a home?
Thanks Mark and Larry. I agree with both of you but I want to try to stay on topic here to try to get some feedback on my core questions. 1. Is there value in maintaining a wish list? 2. If so, where should it be hosted? On 3/9/06, Larry Garfield <larry@garfieldtech.com> wrote:
Agreed. Starting-point themes are much more useful to developers/consultants/designers than canned themes (which are more appropriate for end-user-blogger-types).
For instance, a skeleton theme that does this and almost nothing else would be awesome:
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/holygrail
-- Larry Garfield
On Thu, March 9, 2006 11:29 am, Mark Fredrickson said:
While I see value to having a "I want to port WordPress theme XYZ to Drupal" list, my real wish as a designer is for more wireframes/pure layout themes.
Themes that just define some layouts and perhaps some useful functions in a template.php file would be _way_ more useful to me as a designer than a fully fleshed out theme with fancy-pants graphics and complex cascades. Simplicity is what I want. (I guess this is why I keep returning to ArGeeBee as a basis for themes).
So, what do I want specifically? I want a series of "themes" that build on each other, each adding more complexity (note that this can be done by nesting folders - themea/themea_extension/themea_extenions_extensions/etc). This would allow me to grab the level of complexity that I want, but no more. Here's an example:
root - 2 column -- fixed --- blue color scheme ---- with images --- green color scheme -- variable
- 3 column -- fixed -- variable
- wacky hybrid 2/3 column design
...etc
Of course, I'm lazy and haven't bothered to set up my themes like this either, but perhaps I can spur some community effort. :-)
- Mark Fredrickson
From: David Reed <dreed10@gmail.com> Reply-To: A list for theme developers <themes@drupal.org> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 12:13:18 -0500 To: <themes@drupal.org> Subject: [heur][bcc][faked-from] [themes] Re: theme wishlist?
I meant to say THIS forum thread! http://drupal.org/node/50428
On 3/9/06, David Reed <dreed10@gmail.com> wrote:
I started this forum thread as a place to capture designs that people would like to see ported to Drupal and also a place for theme developers to "volunteer" for some of the porting work. As you can see the thread has gotten quite long. At last count (and I think I'm a little behind) there have been 25 designs suggested (including the Millio design discussed on the dev list), with 14 designs having a volunteer, and at least 4 (maybe 5 completed).
My question to the community (and the maintainers of themes.drupal.org
)
Should this list be moved to themes.drupal.org? Is there value in maintaining an ongoing wish list of desirable designs? If we think there is value but we don't think it belongs on themes.drupal.org then any suggestions for a home?
_______________________________________________ themes mailing list themes@drupal.org http://lists.drupal.org/mailman/listinfo/themes
I'm all over this one! I'm very interested in streamlining my theming using no tables. I recently had to ditch my css-only approach on a client project as they wanted too many little funny tweaks that ended up breaking the layout (mostly in IE, but in Safari, too). In the end, it's user experience that counts and so I plopped it into a table and moved on. (Have I mentioned I hate IE?) My own timeline is that first I have to clear the decks on existing work. I also have to get my CVS account functional. Before my last iMac crashed, I had BBEdit and CVL working ... but could download only projects A-C before it just stopped. I'm completely clueless when it comes to CVS (and I'm already on the record in pointing out that this ends up being a massive barrier to entry preventing most designers from contributing to Drupal at all). Anyway, great link, Larry! Wish-list-wise, I think it's always good to see what other apps are doing, what kind of new interactive widgets and memes are being picked up by others. Laura On Mar 9, 2006, at 11:06 AM, Larry Garfield wrote:
Agreed. Starting-point themes are much more useful to developers/consultants/designers than canned themes (which are more appropriate for end-user-blogger-types).
For instance, a skeleton theme that does this and almost nothing else would be awesome:
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/holygrail
-- Larry Garfield
On Thu, March 9, 2006 11:29 am, Mark Fredrickson said:
While I see value to having a "I want to port WordPress theme XYZ to Drupal" list, my real wish as a designer is for more wireframes/pure layout themes.
Themes that just define some layouts and perhaps some useful functions in a template.php file would be _way_ more useful to me as a designer than a fully fleshed out theme with fancy-pants graphics and complex cascades. Simplicity is what I want. (I guess this is why I keep returning to ArGeeBee as a basis for themes).
So, what do I want specifically? I want a series of "themes" that build on each other, each adding more complexity (note that this can be done by nesting folders - themea/themea_extension/themea_extenions_extensions/etc). This would allow me to grab the level of complexity that I want, but no more. Here's an example:
root - 2 column -- fixed --- blue color scheme ---- with images --- green color scheme -- variable
- 3 column -- fixed -- variable
- wacky hybrid 2/3 column design
...etc
Of course, I'm lazy and haven't bothered to set up my themes like this either, but perhaps I can spur some community effort. :-)
- Mark Fredrickson
From: David Reed <dreed10@gmail.com> Reply-To: A list for theme developers <themes@drupal.org> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 12:13:18 -0500 To: <themes@drupal.org> Subject: [heur][bcc][faked-from] [themes] Re: theme wishlist?
I meant to say THIS forum thread! http://drupal.org/node/50428
On 3/9/06, David Reed <dreed10@gmail.com> wrote:
I started this forum thread as a place to capture designs that people would like to see ported to Drupal and also a place for theme developers to "volunteer" for some of the porting work. As you can see the thread has gotten quite long. At last count (and I think I'm a little behind) there have been 25 designs suggested (including the Millio design discussed on the dev list), with 14 designs having a volunteer, and at least 4 (maybe 5 completed).
My question to the community (and the maintainers of themes.drupal.org) Should this list be moved to themes.drupal.org? Is there value in maintaining an ongoing wish list of desirable designs? If we think there is value but we don't think it belongs on themes.drupal.org then any suggestions for a home?
_______________________________________________ themes mailing list themes@drupal.org http://lists.drupal.org/mailman/listinfo/themes
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