[consulting] Drupal Certification
trevortwining at gmail.com
Fri Aug 7 14:14:42 UTC 2009
I agree with the assertion that such certifications are of suspect
value. I think using more community training to build our capacity to
handle projects in a competent manner would be of much greater use. I
think this counts for both public (community supported) and private
(commercial) training activities.
There's also the benefit of looking at a developer's community
contributions. This is still, and will remain for some time, an
important source of information for determining competence with
drupal. To the extent that a developer has a portfolio, references,
and a complete drupal profile outlining their activity within the
community, they will be able to command a higher rate. The
contributions also have the benefit of being peer reviewed, and are
therefore a stronger measure of capability, IMO
Great thread, enjoying the conversation.
trevor at civicactions.com
On 7-Aug-09, at 9:37 AM, Bill Fitzgerald wrote:
> Hello, all,
> Personally, I'm of the opinion that a certification program would be
> completely useless, and that the certifications would be worth less
> than the paper they were printed on. I articulated some of these
> reasons a while back; most of these reasons remain unchanged: http://lists.drupal.org/pipermail/consulting/2007-December/002267.html
> But, with that said, nothing is stopping any shop from creating and
> managing a certification program. The catch with any credentialing
> program, however, is that the issue body needs to have some
> credibility. If Shop X starts issuing a "Drupal Uber-Ninja
> Certification Program" it's not going to mean much, except that
> maybe Shop X talked to some marketing and Biz-dev folks and came up
> with a catchy name for a program that might make them some money.
> The value of that credential will decrease rapidly over time (if
> indeed it ever had any value to start with), simply because Drupal
> development practice evolves rapidly over time.
> So, if there are shops out there who want to start a certification
> program, by all means, go ahead. Nothing is stopping any shop from
> doing this. The challenge will be in having the value of that
> credential mean anything.
> Personally, I don't care about tech credentials or certifications;
> I've met far too many * Certified people that I wouldn't trust to
> get me coffee -- but then again, I'm pretty picky with my coffee.
> Tom Geller wrote:
>> This subject comes up frequently. I know that Acquia was
>> considering preparation of a certification system ("Yellow
>> Jersey"), but it's always been low among their priorities.
>> Something on this subject became the most-commented post on my blog:
>> Then in a post shortly after that, I suggested that Drupal
>> Association would be the appropriate body to run a certification
>> I wrote, "[DA could] fulfill functions best served by a non-profit
>> authority. While I find commercial interest in Drupal exciting and
>> encouraging, some functions -- such as certification and trademark
>> protection -- are best served by a neutral party with interests
>> beyond the purely financial. Drupal Association is that authority."
>> DA never expressed an interest in that -- which is fine, and their
>> right. I'm among those who questions the value of such things...
>> but still think it would be great to try. Alas, nobody's taking the
>> lead. Uncertainly over the Drupal trademark IMHO also discourages
>> anyone from claiming that leadership role.
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