[consulting] Drupal Certification (was: General consultant'svent)

Victor Kane victorkane at gmail.com
Mon Aug 10 16:09:42 UTC 2009

Ah, now there you're talking (guild/union). That is not the same thing as a
"certification" program run by corporations, discussion of which I thought
you were defending on the basis of your interchange with Nancy.
So that would be a new thread (representing the interests of those working,
but also giving useful info to clients...), if people are interested in
discussing that I am.

Victor Kane

On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Alex Urevick-Ackelsberg
<Alex at zivtech.com>wrote:

> I'm not conflating anything, and if you look back at the thread you'll see
> that I'm not advocating (at least not strongly) for a certification program.
> I think what we need is a "guild" (or "guilds") or union of sorts, that can
> define what it means to be a "Master" at Drupal development (a la 'Master
> Plubmer') and provide the framework for becoming one.
> --
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> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Bill Fitzgerald <bill at funnymonkey.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > RE:
> >
> > > And I don't know which marketplace you've been
> > > talking to, but the ones I talk to think there needs
> > > to be a better way to show that a firm/individual
> > > is a Professional Drupal Developer/Development Shop.
> >
> > Every person who spends a penny on anything would like a better way of
> ensuring that they aren't wasting their money. To conflate this very human
> tendency with the need for a Certification System misses the point: part of
> our job is to help people understand exactly what they are getting with
> their investment (and as I see it, a client "buys" access to expertise,
> which will save them time in the short run and increase efficiency in the
> long run).
> >
> > In my past life (aka, before I became a Drupal geek) I spent far too much
> time working around people who had excellent paper credentials but lacked
> practical skills. These credentials ranged from tech certifications to PhDs
> -- none of these are guarantees that the person holding them knows
> *anything* about *anything*. One of the elements about the Drupal community
> that is refreshing is the complete lack of reliance on these artificial
> metrics.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Bill
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