[consulting] Acceptable Job Postings

[Ryan Cross]

Hey Cameron,

Is there a reason you don't get enough job postings on your relevant
http://groups.drupal.org or even http://groups.drupal.org/jobs ?

Also there is the market place in the forums -
http://drupal.org/paid-services There is also the potentially less
relevant forum (but still commercial services oriented)
http://drupal.org/hosting-support

I just find there are somewhat opposing needs from discussing business
topics with other people and having to put on your "professional face"
in front of clients.

-Ryan


On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Cameron Eagans<cweagans at gmail.com> wrote:
> While I agree with you, the reason that I joined this list in the first
> place was because I thought that there would be frequent job postings. As a
> college student running a Drupal shop, I need all the help I can get finding
> new work.
>
> That said, I agree with you.
>
> Would it be too much of a hassle to split job postings off into a [Jobs]
> list?
>
> If/when that happens, I would join that list, but until then, I think the
> consultants list is the best place for job postings at the moment.
> -----
> Cameron Eagans
> Owner, Black Storms Studios, LLC
> http://www.blackstormsstudios.com
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Ryan Cross <drupal at ryancross.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> This is not directed at anyone in particular (i.e. Sam) but I'm
>> curious how other people feel about job postings on this mailing list.
>> I personally would expect this list to be used for discussions between
>> consultants/shops and mostly around issues facing us that do not
>> necessarily get addressed by other outlets (i.e. not technical or
>> development questions, theming functions, etc). I would generally
>> expect discussions around business topics such as Sam's recent
>> discussion about a skills inventory used in hiring people.
>>
>> It seems very obvious when people not familiar with this list (usually
>> newbies) end up posting job offers or projects to this list without
>> this concept. While I am sure people on this list might be interested
>> in more work (obviously they are in the business for it), I personally
>> do not like seeing them here. I guess I would like to imagine that
>> this can be a bit of a sanctuary for discussion about clients/business
>> without feeling like we have to always be worried about looking bad in
>> front of potential clients. (you probably don't want clients knowing
>> you're unsure of how to estimate a job or that your contracts might
>> have holes in it, etc). I am quite conscious of this being a public
>> forum and have no delusions people can find out this stuff, but I
>> don't want potential clients to have more of a reason to come here and
>> I would support any actions that would discourage this like job posts
>> to this list. The converse of this would be if people started posting
>> to this list advertising their skills/services, which I think would
>> also be inappropriate.
>>
>> How does everyone else feel?
>>
>> There may be some grey areas, such as consultants looking for
>> specialists in other areas. Like a themer looking for a developer, or
>> a developer looking for a hoster. So, if you do want to support job
>> posts, what is acceptable?
>>
>> This may also lead into a more detailed discussion of general
>> guidelines for this list I guess, but I think this is a specific issue
>> that should have a clear answer.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ryan
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