[consulting] A recruiter to watch out for...
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With all due respect, I thought this was the consulting list. Since I
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> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 7:26 PM, George <g at 8vue.com> wrote:
>
>> Please stop filling up my inbox with this crap!! Both sides have
>> spoken.
>> Now, hidden motives/agendas aside, please just leave it at that.
>>
>> Adam Mordecai wrote:
>>> I can't leave it at that. ZivTech is an excellent Drupal firm, they
>>> are extremely professional, and Alex is a stand up guy. We get
>>> recruiters stalking our firm all the time, and I think its an
>>> excellent idea to out the unprofessional ones to this list, every
>>> once
>>> in a while. We should have each other's backs if we are going to
>>> grow
>>> as an industry.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Adam Mordecai, Partner
>>> Advomatic, LLC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 25, 2009, at 5:06 PM, Alex Urevick-Ackelsberg wrote:
>>>
>>> I also never asked John to call me. I may in fact need to lose 20
>>> lbs,
>>> or enlarge my manhood, or find cheap prescription drugs, but that
>>> doesn't mean I want to be contacted (much less directly) in
>>> regards to
>>> these "services". He may have thought I was rude to abruptly end his
>>> "pitch" to me, but I don't have time for hucksters I don't know
>>> trying
>>> to sell me a service I don't need and didn't ask for. His response
>>> was, to put it mildly, batshit crazy, proving my warning was
>>> warranted.
>>>
>>> I don't feel like I have anything to apologize for- I personally
>>> would
>>> want to be warned if some crazy person was contacting Drupal firms
>>> out
>>> of the blue. Out of respect for the list I'm going to have to
>>> leave it
>>> at that.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Alex Urevick-Ackelsberg
>>> ZivTech, LLC
>>> http://zivtech.com
>>> alex at zivtech.com <mailto:alex at zivtech.com>
>>> office: (267) 940-7737
>>> cell: (215) 866-8956
>>> skype: zivtech
>>> aim: zivtech
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Sam Cohen <sam at samcohen.com
>>> <mailto:sam at samcohen.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I would actually prefer that you kept it here as I find it highly
>>> entertaining -- and Alex hasn't had a chance to defend himself
>>> yet.
>>>
>>> My take is it seems to me that John was the one out of line with
>>> his pissy email to Alex -- and Alex did the right thing notifying
>>> others. I don't see how Alex asking John to attend his Drupal
>>> session was rude or deserved the sarcastic email response.
>>>
>>> Alex never asked, as far as I know, anyone to email John, so if
>>> someone took it upon himself to do so, that's not Alex's fault.
>>> John should have thought twice before firing off that email .
>>>
>>> Uh oh, am I going to have legal action taken against me now -- or
>>> the police called?
>>>
>>> Sam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 5:34 PM, <mark at markery.com
>>> <mailto:mark at markery.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am new to this group, and I hope that this will be a useful
>>> forum for sharing tips and ideas. Normally I would expect
>>> this
>>> sort of conversation to be kept between two parties, rather
>>> than shared with the masses. I don't feel I have anything to
>>> offer to this, and I would prefer that you both take this
>> offline.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Mark (Who may or may NOT secretly be a moderator)
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: Re: [consulting] A recruiter to watch out for...
>>> From: Karen Sironen <karen at florezgroup.com
>>> <mailto:karen at florezgroup.com>>
>>> Date: Wed, February 25, 2009 2:11 pm
>>> To: consulting at drupal.org <mailto:consulting at drupal.org>
>>>
>>>
>>> "... right down to the out right threats of physical
>> violence"
>>>
>>> There is absolutely no reference and certainly no "out
>>> right threates" to
>>> physical action or violence in John's emails to you. This
>>> is blatant slander
>>> and we will be taking legal action. What kind of a person
>>> goes out of their
>>> way to try to ruin someone else's business by making
>>> completely false
>>> claims?
>>>
>>> John asked you several times to stop emailing him and
>>> your
>>> only response was
>>> "block my address." It seems like you were the one that
>>> went out of your way
>>> to harass him.
>>>
>>>
>>> Darrel O'Pry-2 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Actually I contacted john of my own accord... to ask why
>>> he spoke to alex
>>>> in
>>>> that manner.. the ensuing conversation was highly
>>> amusing... right down
>>>> to
>>>
>>>> the out right threats of physical violence.
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 25, 2009 4:41 PM, "Karen Sironen"
>>> <karen at florezgroup.com <mailto:karen at florezgroup.com>>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am the President of The Florez Group, the company John
>>> co-owns with me.
>>>> This is only half of the story you are getting from Alex.
>>> John called Alex
>>>> to see if he needed any recruiting services. Alex told
>>> John in a very
>>>> rude,
>>>> abrasive way that Alex doesn't need recruiting services
>>> and is hosting a
>>>> tutorial on how to recruit Drupal talent and perhaps John
>>> could learn a
>>>> tip
>>>> or two from attending this tutorial. I've worked with
>>> John for 8 years and
>>>> he has been nothing but kind and courteous, but he's not
>>> going to take
>>>> someone insulting him lightly, especially when John did
>>> nothing to insult
>>>> or
>>>> harm Alex. Thus, the forwarded email from Alex.
>>>>
>>>> But Alex didn't stop there. Not only did he continue to
>>> email John, but he
>>>> got his friends to email him as well. At that point, John
>>> called Alex to
>>>> tell him to stop contacting him. In fact, the harassing
>>> emails did not
>>>> stop
>>>> even after John threatened legal action. It was finally
>>> after John said he
>>>> would call the police immediately that the barrage of
>>> emails finally
>>>> ceased.
>>>>
>>>> If anyone would like to have a conversation with me to
>>> discuss this in
>>>> more
>>>> detail, I can be reached at 646-684-3880.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Karen
>>>>
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