[consulting] Who exactly is this list for?

[Brian Vuyk]

You are right George. I haven't posted any patches. I highly respect 
those people that do contribute, but I don't have the free time above 
and beyond what my business & family need; if a client doesn't want to 
pay to have a module written, I can't contribute the hours into it. I 
wish I had come across Drupal when I was in university when I had the 
free time...

Let's say a client paid me to write a good wiki module to make it work 
with Drupal. I would write it, and contribute it back; that shortcoming 
would be solved. However, I can't at this stage run a business where I 
spend several hours per day working on hobby modules; I would quickly go 
broke.

To get back to the subject of the list, conversation over what Drupal 
can't do *right now* for our clients deserves a place on this list. What 
Drupal will be able to do in the future doesn't affect how I approach 
projects that I need to do for my clients *right now*.

I am starting to doubt we are ever going to come to a consensus over 
what we should be talking about.

Brian

George wrote:
> Brian Vuyk wrote:
>   
>> I think this mailing list has the potential to be one of the best tools 
>> for improving Drupal in the community. As a group, I imagine we put 
>> Drupal through a larger variety of real-world projects than any other 
>> group. I also believe that we have the best view of Drupal's 
>> shortcomings. This is what we can use to improve Drupal.  I believe open 
>> and honest discussion as to the suitability of Drupal to various project 
>> types will drive improvement.
>>     
> isn't that more suited to the dev list or a 'drupal shortcomings' mail 
> list, and not a consultant list? and when you say 'this is what we can 
> use to improve drupal', then, maybe i'm missing something, but your 
> profile doesn't show any core patches or modules (user/46854?), of 
> course you're not obliged to post any, but, this is not a personal 
> attack, but to everyone - what exactly are *you* doing to improve drupal 
> with the help of this mailing list?
>
> going into webchick mode, she would say it's great people are discussing 
> drupal's shortcomings, but if nothing is being done, then it's hot air, 
> and a waste of time. drupal is a do-ocracy to quote add1sun. but still, 
> this is a consultant list, not a help-drupal list.
>
> to the non-programmers, even if an answer was given to your problem, any 
> programmer will tell you there's more than one solution to a problem, 
> so, the solution for person x, may not be right for you. discussing 
> problems with how to do something is a support issue, and just *is not* 
> a consultants issue. (working on the assumption consultants actually 
> know their sh*zzle, which may i assume that mostly, they do...)
>
> more of my 2c
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