[consulting] Staying Current

Sam Cohen sam at samcohen.com
Sun Mar 29 14:47:18 UTC 2009


Why so harsh?  I mean your basically saying that everyone who wants to
maintain Drupal 5 sites -- including those who want to backport security
patches -- is a used car salesman and a fraud?

Could there not be room here for a legitimate philosophical difference?

Sam


2009/3/29 Alex Urevick-Ackelsberg <Alex at zivtech.com>

> >  I'm talking about big sites with lots of customization, where clients
> might
> > spend well over 100k on customization.  I'm just questioning whether
> those
> > who build those sites are building in -- or being upfront -- about the
> cost
> > of upgrading to D6 and then D7.
>
> And I wonder whether that car salesman really knew he was selling a lemon.
>
> It strikes me that we've moved away from "Should Drupal be supported for
> more than two releases?" to "Are there salespeople that mislead clients
> about the full cost of acquiring some piece of technology?". And since the
> answer to the second question is so obvious, what are we even talking about?
>
> Of course there are shops that sell crap as gold, and if a client doesn't
> know this an still throws down $100k on a site from a huckster (I'm assuming
> only a huckster could sell $100k worth of anything without a rock solid
> reputation)? Well, I have a bridge in Brooklyn (or maybe a CDO/CDS or some
> other exotic "security") that they'd be stupid not to buy a piece of.
>
> --
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>
> 2009/3/29 Sam Cohen <sam at samcohen.com>:
>
> >>
> >>
> >> If I do those things I hope to end up with sites that have very little
> >> customization. That doesn't eliminate upgrade problems, but it makes the
> >> upgrade much much more manageble.
> >
> > Yes, but then we're talking about simple sites.
> >
> >  I'm talking about big sites with lots of customization, where clients
> might
> > spend well over 100k on customization.  I'm just questioning whether
> those
> > who build those sites are building in -- or being upfront -- about the
> cost
> > of upgrading to D6 and then D7.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> 2009/3/29 Sam Cohen <sam at samcohen.com>
> >>>
> >>> I understand the logic in what you're saying, but it makes me wonder
> >>> whether or not in the real world, big site developers who are now
> building
> >>> complex sites in Drupal 6, with lots of customization, are building
> into
> >>> their fees and being upfront with clients about what it's going to cost
> to
> >>> upgrade that site to Drupal 7.
> >>>
> >>
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