[consulting] Unionizing Drupal

[Don]

Jeff, I've been a member of a teacher's union, and if you think they're 
responsible for the decline in education it's time to turn off Fox News. 
Especially in the age of No Child Left Behind, they have very little to 
do with the curriculum and teaching methods. You're maligning a very 
hard working group of dedicated people that work under extremely 
difficult situations.

I know the Culinary, Teamsters, IBEW, and Teachers unions pretty well. 
The conversation here shows a very shallowunderstanding of the workings 
of unions. That's why I said a professional organization is probably 
more applicable.

On 8/8/2010 1:04 AM, jeff at ayendesigns.com wrote:
> There are good and bad examples. Collective bargaining is not a requirement of a union, nor are many of the items listed. A bad example, in practice, is the US teacher's union. Read the stats of education's decline and how many students cannot find the US on a map. That aside, nothing you said shows the union ad being a haven for uniquely talented individuals rather than (perhaps talented) interchangable cogs.
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> Though I'd suggest a professional organization is more applicable
> (professional being a legal term) I think the conversation is over
> simplifying what unions do.
> Not only do they participate in collective bargaining and employee
> defense, but you have professional standards, apprentice programs
> (meaning trainers, trainees, mentors and ongoing education), job
> placement, group insurance policies (health for the US, but life and
> disability as well), pensions, government lobbying, and a host of other
> duties.
>
> In the teamsters, if you hired a Union Electrician and employer always
> knew they'd get someone that worked to the highest standards. Is that
> something the Drupal group could guarantee?
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