[consulting] American Labour Laws & Future of Labour

[Jeff Greenberg]

I don't think the thoughts represent anything new here. The extreme 
right feel that people should be free to choose (or not) everything. The 
extreme left feel that the government should provide everything or 
otherwise control it. Most people fall in between.

This country might seem to be one of corporations, but it's primarily of 
small businesses. Every mandate costs them money. Every mandate is paid 
for by taxing them, which causes some to close or raise prices, which 
costs everyone else more.

It seems to me that successful companies can be measured by innovation, 
discovery, and ongoing success. To achieve that, they have to attract 
the best and brightest talent, and have a market. To do that they have 
to invest in their people and research and development. To do that, they 
need profit, rather than have it redirected by the government. How many 
of these other societies that burden businesses so heavily lead the 
world in technological and scientific discovery? I don't recall Canada 
being at the top of the list.

On 08/21/2010 02:53 PM, Sami Khan wrote:
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>> I'm not sure as to why this is much of a surprise.
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> Because many other people in other countries (like mine) get a better
> deal... and their societies work just fine. Society is a massive game and
> we control all the rules. It is better if the rules are utilitarian meaning
> the greatest good for the greatest number of people rather than favouring
> the few at the cost of the many so that they may make even more wealth. I
> would find it acceptable to take every penny they have say over a million
> dollars and redistribute it to entrepreneurs with viable business ideas.
>
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>> There are certain
>> protections, and the rest is a consumer market like anything else. In
>> other words, if you don't like the wage, if you don't like the benefits
>> package, if you don't like the job title or the wallpaper ... don't take
>>      
>    
>> the job.
>>      
> The question then is not whether or not protection should exist, but which
> rules should exist so that they create the greatest amount of good for all
> who are involved... Not just the shareholders but the stakeholders too.
> That does not mean management goes away, or that disparity is eliminated...
> but that it is reduced to the greatest level possible while keeping the
> system function. Thereby limiting the leisure class significantly rather
> than magnifying its power.
>
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>> On the other hand, there are protections here that are NOT afforded
>> elsewhere. If you are asked in an interview about your marital status,
>> location of residence, past times, religious participation, etc., and do
>>      
>    
>> not receive the job, you can sue (which is why companies in the know
>> train their staff not to ask such questions). I know people in other
>> countries (especially in Asia) who have been asked in an interview why
>> they are not married, what their parents do for a living, when they met
>> their boyfriend and how, and if they had sex outside of marriage.
>>      
> I am sure there are countries like this, India being a prime example of
> where some of these questions might be asked. I consider such environment
> failures and I think only because of overpopulation they can get away with
> this sort of shit; too much competition. I don't think we want to emulate
> failure, I think we want to emulate success.
>
> I don't particularly care about shareholders.
>
> If every citizen thought like a business, which is the purview of
> economists, then I think every citizen should be strategic in maximizing
> their personal utility... They should all be taught to behave rationally
> and treat their lives like a business. That means attempting to maximize
> personal profit at the cost of everyone and looking out only for their
> shareholders: i.e. themselves... Which would then in turn lead most
> businesses to fail and society to fall into pieces because of the zero sum
> game which would be created. It is good for corporations and societies that
> employees for the most part don't behave this way. It would therefore be
> good for employees and society if corporations did not behave this way
> either.
>
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