[consulting] American Labour Laws & Future of Labour
Jeff Greenberg
jeff at ayendesigns.com
Sat Aug 21 19:44:45 UTC 2010
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Subject: Re: [consulting] American Labour Laws & Future of Labour
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 15:38:59 -0400
From: Jeff Greenberg <jeff at ayendesigns.com>
Organization: Ayen Designs
To: Eric Goldhagen <eric at openflows.com>
Your left must be different than ours. Our progressives (considered the
left of the left) identify something the state isn't in control of,
create a new government entity to control it, and create a taxation
structure to fund it... i.e. the government (and tax dept) get larger
with every program.
On 08/21/2010 03:42 PM, Eric Goldhagen wrote:
> At 3:05 PM -0400 8/21/10, Jeff Greenberg wrote:
>> I don't think the thoughts represent anything new here. The extreme
>> right feel that people should be free to choose (or not) everything. The
>> extreme left feel that the government should provide everything or
>> otherwise control it. Most people fall in between.
>
> Jeff,
>
> While I'll agree that most people fall in between, I find your
> definitions of right and left to be rather inaccurate.
>
> The extreme right wants complete control over the individual by the
> state.
> The extreme right views rights as being rooted from ownership,
> therefor tends to make social/political decisions based on the needs
> of corporate and business entities.
> The extreme right views the wealth of society as something to be held
> privately.
> The extreme right views poverty as necessary.
>
>
> The extreme left wants to abolish the state entirely, replacing it was
> a more decentralized and to whatever extent possible, voluntary
> participation.
> The extreme left views rights as being based on an individual's
> existence within and participation in society.
> The extreme left views the wealth of society as belonging to all that
> create it (which in general is really everyone).
> The extreme left views poverty as a danger to the health of society as
> a whole.
>
> I could go on, but I'll stop there.
>
> --Eric
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