[consulting] American Labour Laws & Future of Labour

Jeff Greenberg jeff at ayendesigns.com
Sat Aug 21 19:44:45 UTC 2010



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Subject: 	Re: [consulting] American Labour Laws & Future of Labour
Date: 	Sat, 21 Aug 2010 15:38:59 -0400
From: 	Jeff Greenberg <jeff at ayendesigns.com>
Organization: 	Ayen Designs
To: 	Eric Goldhagen <eric at openflows.com>



Your left must be different than ours. Our progressives (considered the
left of the left) identify something the state isn't in control of,
create a new government entity to control it, and create a taxation
structure to fund it... i.e. the government (and tax dept) get larger
with every program.

On 08/21/2010 03:42 PM, Eric Goldhagen wrote:
>  At 3:05 PM -0400 8/21/10, Jeff Greenberg wrote:
>>  I don't think the thoughts represent anything new here. The extreme
>>  right feel that people should be free to choose (or not) everything. The
>>  extreme left feel that the government should provide everything or
>>  otherwise control it. Most people fall in between.
>
>  Jeff,
>
>  While I'll agree that most people fall in between, I find your
>  definitions of right and left to be rather inaccurate.
>
>  The extreme right wants complete control over the individual by the
>  state.
>  The extreme right views rights as being rooted from ownership,
>  therefor tends to make social/political decisions based on the needs
>  of corporate and business entities.
>  The extreme right views the wealth of society as something to be held
>  privately.
>  The extreme right views poverty as necessary.
>
>
>  The extreme left wants to abolish the state entirely, replacing it was
>  a more decentralized and to whatever extent possible, voluntary
>  participation.
>  The extreme left views rights as being based on an individual's
>  existence within and participation in society.
>  The extreme left views the wealth of society as belonging to all that
>  create it (which in general is really everyone).
>  The extreme left views poverty as a danger to the health of society as
>  a whole.
>
>  I could go on, but I'll stop there.
>
>  --Eric

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