[drupal-devel] Move #drupal to #drupal-devel and #drupal-support to #drupal?

Larry Garfield larry at garfieldtech.com
Wed Aug 31 18:51:55 UTC 2005

I'd support this idea.  +1

First of all, as others have mentioned, #project and #project-devel is a much 
more common split on Freenode.  #project is for "all kinds talk about the 
project", which ranges from support to "how's that new code coming?" to 
"Dude, isn't <insert celebrity here> hot."  It's the place where first-time 
IRCers will go naturally.  99% of the time they're looking for an "all kinds 
talk" channel, so that's what they should get.  If they start getting into 
development, then they can be directed to the "uber-cool developer channel" 
and feel special.  

Remember, nearly all developers start out as users.  (Well, except Dries, 
maybe. <g>)  If we want more friendly developers, we need to make their first 
impression as a user as good as possible.  

Secondly, as to the use of IRC support, no, it's not as permanent or easily 
referenceable as a forum.  But a forum doesn't provide a fast back-and-forth 
for easy trial-and-error.  Sometimes you really do need the instant-feedback 
in order to solve a problem in 5 minutes instead of 5 hours.  A forum doesn't 
provide that.  Larger questions should end up on the forums, yes, and a forum 
post after solving a tricky idea in IRC would be a good thing as well, but 
real-time provides a much better environment in which to get a variety of 
feedback fast.

On Wednesday 31 August 2005 06:48 am, Karoly Negyesi wrote:
> Hi!
> What do you think about:
> a) Let's move development talk to #drupal-devel
> b) Let's rename #drupal-support to #drupal (and even set a forward on it)
> I know that Dries, jvandyk, berkes and myself likes this, killes is
> against (or does not care). Others?
> This would have almost zero impact on existing developers and a plus for
> all support-seeking users.
> Regards
> NK

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