[drupal-devel] [feature] 'View terms' for vocabularies with > 25 terms

Morbus Iff drupal-devel at drupal.org
Tue May 3 14:39:49 UTC 2005

Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/20505

 Project:      Drupal
 Version:      cvs
 Component:    taxonomy.module
 Category:     feature requests
 Priority:     normal
 Assigned to:  Morbus Iff
 Reported by:  Morbus Iff
 Updated by:   Morbus Iff
 Status:       patch

25 is an arbitrary number based on the assumption that they'll be at
least two vocabularies in a site (one for the site itself, and one for
the forums). A single page with a maximum of 48 items on it is quite
large already, and that doesn't take into consideration other
user-created vocabularies that could increase the size of the page (2
other vocabularies that have 10 items each, for instance, could create
a 68-item sized page). I'm against a user-settable option just for the
sake of a user-settable option. #2 is a whole 'nother feature request
and should be its own separate Issue. I won't respond to it here. In
short, however, I don't like it.

Morbus Iff

Previous comments:

April 14, 2005 - 11:31 : Morbus Iff

Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/_p_25termvocab.patch (1.28 KB)

There was some small talk about this here and there during my
folksonomy/free tagging patch, but I held off until now to actually
implement it. Much like we handle free tagging vocabularies ("this is a
free tagging vocabulary: view terms", which leads the admin into the
taxonomy pager system), this patch does the same thing for NON-free
tagging vocabularies, but ONLY if the vocabulary has more than 25

These patches were made during the exploration and customization of
Drupal by http://www.NHPR.org. In loving support of open source
software, http://www.NHPR.org will continue to contribute patches they
feel the community will benefit from. Questions about this patch should
be directed to morbus at disobey.com.


May 2, 2005 - 06:32 : Dries

If would make sense if "free tags" were also shown if there are less
than 25 terms, not?


May 2, 2005 - 13:53 : Morbus Iff

My concern with that is how to actually get the term count quickly for a
vocabulary that has 8000 terms. On my installation (with 8000+ terms),
it takes 360ms (per devel.module) for get_tree(). Following through
with the same mentality code as suggested with this patch (using
get_tree() to return an array of countable terms), we'd be wasting
360ms just to get a count of free tagging terms (more or less - I've
been generally assuming that the very smallest free tagging vocab would
be 100 terms, and the largest I've worked with being 8000). The only
other countable equivalent would be a brand new SQL statement that'd
just return the number of terms in a vocabulary (similar to
term_count_nodes, only vocabulary_count_terms). I could certainly add
this in, but for consistency / pattern sake, I'd want to use it IN
PLACE of the get_tree side- effect/counting as demonstrated in this
patch (so, count first, then get_tree when necessary). This would cause
NUM_VOCABULARIES more queries than currently, but would certainly add up
less than returning an entire tree of 8000 terms just to throw it away
again. Thoughts?


May 3, 2005 - 09:26 : Jaza

Two suggestions:

1. Why >25? Anything special about the number 25? +1 For the idea of
having 'view terms' for vocabularies with a large number of terms, but
I don't see why 25 is necessarily where 'large' begins. This number
should be a setting somewhere (not sure where, since taxonomy has no
options page of its own). 25 can be the default option - it sounds
reasonable to me (but maybe not to all webmasters). Perhaps make it so
that if '0' is entered as the number, all terms are always displayed
for that vocabulary (unless free tagging is enabled).

2. Taking this concept a bit further, it might be good to have an
option: "enable free tagging for vocabularies when the number of terms
reaches x". x could be the same variable as the one above, but I
suggest that it be stored separately, for a more flexible
configuration. As with suggestion 1, it may be hard finding a settings
page on which this option belongs. Also, this might be taking it too
far - could be one setting too many? In terms of performance, there
should be no problem, since free tagging vocabularies do not need to
have their terms counted - only others do.

Number 2 could also be implemented on a per-vocabulary basis (number 1
also could, but that would be silly), but that would mean another
column in the vocabulary table, especially for free tagging. And if
that can be avoided, it should.


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