[drupal-devel] PHPTemplate hits core ... finally

K B kbahey at gmail.com
Fri May 6 20:56:25 UTC 2005

On 5/6/05, Matthew Hildebrand <drupal.org at gosherm.org> wrote:
> Some of the developers at the company that I work at swear by Perforce,
> which is available for free to open source projects.

While this is a good thing, you cannot guarantee this will continue.

Anyone following the Linux kernel is familiar with the Bitkeeper
fiasco. Basically, Bitkeeper provided a free thing for Linus and other
kernel developers, but eventually, they backed off this deal for
various reasons.

The end result is that kernel development is switching to GIT.

You can read on this at kerneltrap.org and slashdot.org.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: drupal-devel-bounces at drupal.org
> [mailto:drupal-devel-bounces at drupal.org] On Behalf Of Ber Kessels
> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 11:54 AM
> To: drupal-devel at drupal.org
> Subject: Re: [drupal-devel] PHPTemplate hits core ... finally
> Hello,
> I have been debating this with darix a few times already, but:
> 1) moving from CVS to SVN must be done when the majority is ready for
> that. We
> should thus
>   1.1) investigate if there are people not at all ready for a move
>   1.2) investigat who will help with the move. it should never be only on
> the shoulders of those few who already have a lot on their shoulders
> (i.e. Dries, kjartan and Steven).
> 2) If ever we move, we should do it good. Thus look for ALL alternatives,
> not just look at SVN, because its the closest at hand.
> IMO SVN is nothing more then a revised CVS. The real problems are not
> solved, only made a little easier to deal with.
> SVN continues on a road that, IMO, is not the perfect road for Open source
> collaboration. The fact that Drupal developement is very much
> decentralised, non hierarchical and above all voluntary, should be
> reflected by the
> RCS we choose to use. SVN gets closer then CVS, but IMO (by far) not close
> enough. Again, i see it as a slightly improved CVS. but nothing more.
> I have been looking around, and read about DARCS
> (http://abridgegame.org/darcs/) A system that is build purely with
> decentralized, vuluntary, non-hierarchical communities in mind. IMO it
> gets much closer to our ideal workflow then SVN will ever get us.
> And yes, I know its easy to sort-of emulate darcs at the client side,
> while using SVN on the server, but that does not solve the whole idea of
> SVN simply not being suited enough for Drupals structure and comm. (/.
> http://it.slashdot.org/it/04/11/25/0136249.shtml?tid=156&tid=218)
> O, and afaik darcs is about the easiest to learn from the oss RCSs.
> (http://zooko.com/revision_control_quick_ref.html)
> But that does not mean we should go for darcs, just now. I simply try to
> point out we should look at all options, not just choose one, 'cause its
> been chosen a lot, and thus is the first at hand. We should research, and
> then choose the best for our system.
> Ber

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