[drupal-devel] PHPTemplate hits core ... finally

Gordon Heydon gordon at heydon.com.au
Fri May 6 23:37:45 UTC 2005


I would be wary about commercial close source software helping open
source. They can take it away when ever they like. See the bitkeeper
incident with the kernel.


On Fri, 2005-05-06 at 14:51 -0600, Matthew Hildebrand wrote:
> Some of the developers at the company that I work at swear by Perforce,
> which is available for free to open source projects.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: drupal-devel-bounces at drupal.org
> [mailto:drupal-devel-bounces at drupal.org] On Behalf Of Ber Kessels
> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 11:54 AM
> To: drupal-devel at drupal.org
> Subject: Re: [drupal-devel] PHPTemplate hits core ... finally
> Hello,
> I have been debating this with darix a few times already, but:
> 1) moving from CVS to SVN must be done when the majority is ready for
> that. We
> should thus
>   1.1) investigate if there are people not at all ready for a move
>   1.2) investigat who will help with the move. it should never be only on
> the shoulders of those few who already have a lot on their shoulders
> (i.e. Dries, kjartan and Steven).
> 2) If ever we move, we should do it good. Thus look for ALL alternatives,
> not just look at SVN, because its the closest at hand.
> IMO SVN is nothing more then a revised CVS. The real problems are not
> solved, only made a little easier to deal with.
> SVN continues on a road that, IMO, is not the perfect road for Open source
> collaboration. The fact that Drupal developement is very much
> decentralised, non hierarchical and above all voluntary, should be
> reflected by the
> RCS we choose to use. SVN gets closer then CVS, but IMO (by far) not close
> enough. Again, i see it as a slightly improved CVS. but nothing more.
> I have been looking around, and read about DARCS
> (http://abridgegame.org/darcs/) A system that is build purely with
> decentralized, vuluntary, non-hierarchical communities in mind. IMO it
> gets much closer to our ideal workflow then SVN will ever get us.
> And yes, I know its easy to sort-of emulate darcs at the client side,
> while using SVN on the server, but that does not solve the whole idea of
> SVN simply not being suited enough for Drupals structure and comm. (/.
> http://it.slashdot.org/it/04/11/25/0136249.shtml?tid=156&tid=218)
> O, and afaik darcs is about the easiest to learn from the oss RCSs.
> (http://zooko.com/revision_control_quick_ref.html)
> But that does not mean we should go for darcs, just now. I simply try to
> point out we should look at all options, not just choose one, 'cause its
> been chosen a lot, and thus is the first at hand. We should research, and
> then choose the best for our system.
> Ber
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