[drupal-devel] [feature] Track guest paths
webchick
drupal-devel at drupal.org
Sun Sep 18 16:43:58 UTC 2005
Issue status update for
http://drupal.org/node/31449
Post a follow up:
http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/31449
Project: Drupal
Version: cvs
Component: statistics.module
Category: feature requests
Priority: critical
Assigned to: chx
Reported by: chx
Updated by: webchick
Status: patch (code needs review)
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/anon_paths_2.patch (0 bytes)
I'm sorry! I didn't know that postgres needs its own special way of
adding NOT NULL and default when altering a field. This patch should be
correct. It also includes the changes in the original patch.
webchick
Previous comments:
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Sat, 17 Sep 2005 06:24:55 +0000 : chx
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/anon_paths.patch (1.04 KB)
For the first time I needed to do something with drupal statistics and I
was shocked to see that session ID is not stored so I can't track my
guests. I guess this affects most sites as the typical site has
magnitudes more guests than logged in users.
update_sql is not here, if you say this is a go, I'll write it.
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Sat, 17 Sep 2005 12:01:29 +0000 : Dries
Storing the session ID is one thing, using it another. How would this
affect the existing statistics pages? Would you update them to
group/sort by session ID rather than by IP?
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Sat, 17 Sep 2005 13:29:10 +0000 : Jeremy at kerneltrap.org
Why not? Do you see any negative impacts from that, or are you just
pointing out that it's missing from the patch?
If the same IP shows up with multiple session ID's, either the same
person is using multiple browsers, or it's multiple users behind a NAT
device, or...
However, it seems the various "track by IP" type operations no longer
exist. I only see "track page visits" tabs on the user page. Why was
the ability to track users by IP removed? (it evidently happened a
while ago, I'm used to 4.5, and see they're gone as of 4.6...)
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Sat, 17 Sep 2005 13:46:24 +0000 : chx
Let contrib modules use the data. But they can only use what's stored.
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Sat, 17 Sep 2005 15:41:19 +0000 : kbahey
Anything that would restore or improve the functionality that we
partially had in 4.5 is welcome.
In 4.5, I was able to "track host" and see if it is a crawler or a
human. It was very helpful.
Putting the session in the table is a good idea to track anonymous
users.
The only comment here is that it would apply to humans for sure (since
they are using browsers, and accept cookies).
But what about crawlers? Do they accept cookies and send them in their
next page access? I would be surprised if they did.
Regardless, there is definite value in adding this, only that it will
not give the whole picture.
+1 from me.
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Sat, 17 Sep 2005 15:55:57 +0000 : chx
This is a usability issue. Usability but not in the sense of admin
interface but navigational paths. Path analysis is a must if I want to
see whether my users are able to find what they seek or not. At this
moment this is just not possible.
However, a path analysis module would not be simple therefore I doubt
it should be in core.
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Sat, 17 Sep 2005 16:01:05 +0000 : kbahey
I fully agree.
Path analysis is much needed, specially comparing 4.5 to 4.6.
Even if it is not in core, and only a contrib, it will be helpful. Just
like I find statistics trends to be very helpful, though it is not in
core.
Still +1
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Sat, 17 Sep 2005 20:22:35 +0000 : Jeremy at kerneltrap.org
Why was "track hostname" etc moved when going from 4.5 to 4.6? I assume
there was a reason - was it not working? I still use 4.5, and it has
worked well for me, aside from the annoyance of finding the person to
track in the first place.
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Sun, 18 Sep 2005 09:12:58 +0000 : Dries
Will commit. Please provide ugrade path. Thanks.
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Sun, 18 Sep 2005 14:23:51 +0000 : webchick
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/accesslog_update.patch (2.07 KB)
This should do it...
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