[development] Drupal at ohloh.com

Jonathan Lambert j at firebright.com
Sun Oct 22 18:38:29 UTC 2006

It's interesting...

The main problem that comes to mind is that, for example, if I  
integrate junit into Drupal, commit the code, and I've just put the  
entire development effort of junit's worth of rank into the system.   
Not accurate.

What's more that site (ohloh.net) has some difficult licensing, and  
you shouldn't be using it.

For example:

- The site you are using doesn't allow anyone below the age of 18  
years old to register with the site ("You must be 18 years of age or  
older to register as a member and use the Services.") so I'm not sure  
these results CAN be accurate.  What's more, Open Source projects are  
not limited to 18+.  I mean, 13 I can understand due to legal  
concerns in the US about COPPA, but 18?  What the...?

- Any use of the site forfeits every right you have - "When you post  
Content, you hereby grant us a royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable,  
fully sublicensable, worldwide, non-exclusive right to use,  
reproduce, modify, translate, adapt, publish, create derivative works  
of, transmit, distribute, perform, display, delete (in whole or in  
part), and incorporate the Content for any purpose and without  
acknowledgement to you."  So don't post anything interesting,  
anything you ever intend to publish, etc, because these guys can use  
it without ever giving source credit (that's unconscionable in my  
opinion - essentially it's a license for plagiarism for anything  
anyone posts).

All-in-all, this site about Open Source doesn't seem to very "Open"  
itself - in fact it seems like they spent more time and money on the  
legal contract than the site contents.

I'm sure the inaccuracies that can be shaken out (I'm not convinced  
they all technically can - crawling project is VERY complicated) will  
be in time, but the "corporate" license is a little tough pill to  
swallow.  I'm sure Scott and everyone are good people and all, but be  
careful what you post up on the site - they've got a HUGE legal  
contract behind it with a couple big downers.

Sorry, I know its off topic, but I was pretty shocked when I read the  


On Oct 22, 2006, at 11:10 AM, John VanDyk wrote:

> Yes, that's quite a bit more than Plone, which is worth $257.
> http://ohloh.net/projects/70
>> Hi,
>> This might worth a look. One interesting point is this stuff:
>> "This calculator estimates how much it would cost to hire a team  
>> to write this project from scratch."
>> Result? $5,364,474 with default values :)
>>   http://ohloh.net/projects/3189
>> Programming language usage and codebase history are also  
>> interesting. And they have some (false?) findings about licences  
>> used. Maybe they care to explain what files they identified with  
>> these licenses in more detail.
>> Gabor

Jonathan Lambert
Principal | FireBright, Inc.
Email: j at firebright.com

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